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While I appreciate your zeal to help bring changes to EN, I have serious doubts that there will ever be fast solutions to the problems there. Many people have tried for years to address concerns and offer advice for solutions, and EN just doesn't listen.

As long as these churches and people are guillible enough to give EN leaders their money. There won't be any changes. The only thing that kept these EN leaders breathing is MONEY nothing else. One of the elders of the EN church told a friend of mine, thats the only thing that keeping them alive. MONEY. nothing else.

The changes is just a FRONT. As I have spoken with some of the EN Board leaders just recently, I saw how deceived they are. Example, I ask what do you know about the Lawsuit in Nashville?
The EN Board told me that what they know is that its a "jew who does not want her daughter to get born again and filled with the Spirit of the Lord".
I had to sent him some links from the News and the Court Documents. Thats how badly deceived they are.
I asked about what do you know about the houses they bought ?
The Answer, they can buy any amount of a home as long as they put a 5% downpayment.
I had to explain, no , nobody can buy any amount of home, they based it on their income.
What do you know about Greg Feste ? In every investment there is a risk, it just the business went down and a lot of people are angry at Greg Feste.
I had to send him links to where Greg Feste's business were either revoked or withdrawn, the lawsuit where Greg Feste tried to take over and Feste lost in that lawsuit, also how Greg Feste own business partners like Tony Bosselli and Mark Brunell kick him out.
I did also mention that Feste was BARRED from the market also for 6 months.

As you can see, The EN leaders in the US have LIED to the EN current board in ASIA.
Changes ? I highly doubt it.

Dear Ginger. It may be true that there are some leaders in EveryNation who are motivated by power and money. I don't expect these people will respond to anything other than pressure. i.e. they will introduce reforms only if they fear being otherwise kicked out. But I believe there are others who have integrity and want to serve God. It was a waste of time lobbying Paul Daniel and his blindly obedient personality cult for reform and righteousness, but as the truth started spreading, they were forced to investigate the facts and eventually he was thrown out. Hopefully, exposure of the truth will lead many to break loyalty with the personality cults and return to serving Jesus.

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Phillip,
here is the sad part, I saw a lot of good people, rank and file in EN. People who just want to serve the Lord. Then I also see, EN leaders taking advantage of that, with manipulation, trying to milk them as much as they can. Some became also insecure and became EN leaders servant/slaves thinking they are serving the Lord. Currently since the EN Board was reshuffled, few of the bad ones left, like Phil Bonasso, Leo lawson but those who has not been caught yet has maintained their position. A few good ones, like the people I am talking to right now, were deceived, I could not believe what I am hearing when I start asking questions. The JUNK that these US EN leaders told them. JUST PURE LIES and JUNK.
So the whole repentance thing in Palm Spring IS A JOKE. First , they lied about World partner Revenue, then these lies that they gave to the NEW EN BOARD MEMBERS.
Its frustrating, But At least now, I have an OPEN communication, that I can send Facts and Evidences to them. It will take time for the NEW EN BOARD to wake up. I do not think they will get suckered into believing the EN leaders long. I gave them a few people to call, to confirm some of the stuff I gave to them. They want to investigate, We will help them investigate.

Ginger - you make a very strong assertion when you state that you have personally spoken to some of the EN board members recently and, regarding the lawsuit in Nashville, the EN Board told you that "what they know is that it's a "jew who does not want her daughter to get born again and filled with the Spirit of the Lord".

Not only is this statement - which you put in quotations and as such is attributable to the board members both collectively and individually - deplorably anti-semitic, but it is a serious accusation of fiduciary negligence.

Ginger - I have taken you to task before over deliberate distortions in how you revealed the identity of a missionary to support your position on the disbursement of World Partners money. I am concerned that such a sensationalistic allegation is simply an attempt to discredit and undermine the current EN board. I therefore challenge you to support your allegation or retract it and apologize for yet again using underhand and deceptive means to try to make a point.

I hope you are able to support your allegation, because it is neither necessary not productive to employ such tactics. There are plenty of people contributing to this site who sincerely want to pressure EN to make changes by truthful means. You do them no service - and you also discredit everything else you say in the process.

Truthseeker, I personally spoke with one of the EN Board member and thats exactly the answer that one of the EN board member gave me. This jsut happened last week. Quite frankly, I am very surprised when he told me that, And my mistake is that I did not ask where did he get those info.
I did not want to get into debate with him, I just send him some links. We have been friends for over 20 years and am personally glad that he is on the EN Board. Currently I do not feel that its worth breaking up the friendship, my problem is that they are badly misinformed.

Truthseeker, here is your problem , the current EN board used to consist of the US members. NOW, its consist of people from Asia and England and Africa I think. Now the US culture are very much into "politically correct" , try to please everyone across the board. Thats called politics.Unfortunately, when you go out of the US, it does not work that way. To you this is anti-semitic and deplorable. To the people outside of the US, its not. It is not anti-Semitic. Nor negligent. This is how outside of US think and speak with no malice.

I do not speak to any of the US EN Board. I do not believe in any of them, and I do not trust them.

Just wondering if I posted that the woman is A BUDDHIST and does not like her daughter getting born again and filled with the Spirit it will be more Politically ACCEPTABLE correct ?

truthseeker180359,

What's worse? That some ENC leader would use the term "unconverted Jew" or the older doctrine relating to the Kabbalah where MARANATHA and ENC leaders tell their congregants that they are the "ELECTED SEED GENERATION", "GOD'S GREEN BERETS" (from old MCM), or "SPIRITUAL DNA" (current Bob Weiner and Rice Broocks, both in public sermons and written documents). You obviously are a current ENC leader who is working with Broocks and the rest in their dealings with the Israeli Knesset and you want to cover your butt and not offend because of your big deal going down.

You have shown your evil colors yet again! You cannot correctly handle the truth and therefore you have disqualified yourself as a possessing Christian. If you haven't already, why not just join the masonic lodge or better yet, just follow Rick Joyner and join a psuedo order of the Knights of Malta -- get your belly full of esotericism. You'll find yourself in good esoteric company with many who are theosophically-minded like you are. Just don't try the games you just did around here, they simply won't work.

--Bill

Bill. I believe in your comments above,"You have shown your evil colors yet again! You cannot correctly handle the truth and therefore you have disqualified yourself as a possessing Christian." you are over-stepping the mark in your judgement of 'truthseeker'. It is fair to criticise what someone says, but not fair to jump to a judgement of their character and competence based on a few internet posts. Some of your other posts are also extremely aggressive towards those inside or having just left EN. This is counter-productive to reform. We need to draw them into the conversation - and in that way address their concerns, answer questions, help them, listen to them. Were you 'evil' when you were inside Maranatha? Were you maybe not just a bit deceived on a few points. Note the modest name of the alias 'truthseeker'. Respect people who are seeking the truth - tell them the truth with respect.

Out of interest, I am of Jewish blood and I don't find the above statement referring to Jews at all offensive. Some Jews are hyper-sensitive, but one can't censor everything you say because of them.

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