LaRouche continued 6

[earnest_one]

Happy New Year Comrades!

The stock market went up, tremendously, last year. I still wonder, occasionally, about the October fiasco where, according to LT, this was the most extreme of the most extreme of the most extreme LaRouche forecasts EVER EVER EVER. Here LAR FINALLY put it ALL on the line in terms of a date-certain collapse. This one was truly, fundamentally different.

Few if any readers will recall this post of mine:

http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showp...postcount=3044

I "forecast" that the org would lose less than 5% of its members as a result of the fiasco.

Are the final numbers or estimates in yet? If not, then: "Where has all the cognitive dissidence gone? La, La , la la la."

La La, La La, January 5, 2010

[socialistboomer]

A Gadfly to the End

10:51 am
December 30, 2009


By Barrie Hardymon
As many of you who've called in to Talk of The Nation know, we generally just ask for "your first name and where you're calling from." When I worked for The Mark Steiner Show in Baltimore, there was one caller who bucked that trend. When a producer picked up the phone and heard, "This is Bob Kaufman," we knew we were in for some impassioned commentary from Baltimore's favorite socialist, A. Robert Kaufman. The constant candidate was one of the most ardent social activists I've ever had the pleasure to know, and if I often disagreed with him, his arguments were always well reasoned and civil -- something every talk show producer appreciates. From his obituary in the Baltimore Sun:

Those who knew Mr. Kaufman said he formed his political views at an early age and never backed down from a debate. He was arrested countless times, thrown out of candidate forums and kicked out of council meetings. But he'd always be back, trying to use the political process to further his causes -- from civil rights in his younger days to his more modern push to legalize drugs as a means to cut their street value.

A toast to Bob Kaufman and the values he held dear -- he's certainly one of the reasons I loved what I did then, and now.

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by socialistboomer

A toast to Bob Kaufman and the values he held dear -- he's certainly one of the reasons I loved what I did then, and now.

Socialist Boomer The resignation letter of Robert Kaufman is well worth reading . It is amazing in how it truly describes the mechanism of how we see a cult of personality which whether by default or design will always fail at whatever task is attempted.

http://lyndonlarouche.org/larouche-kaufman.pdf

There is some controversy over Kaufman as the email inbox refers to him being viewed as an informer by certain members at the time. One wonders if this has anything to do with the violence mentioned by Kaufman or somethng else. I read my first LC lit after he left and NEVER knew of his resignation. I contrast that to today where any potential member or supporter can instantly review the cult and find terrabytes of info in minutes.

What I do wonder is how the early SDSLC quit in a short time when Lyn began the cult of personality while the replacement leadership stayed in for a much longer time. The later leadership seems to have been severely beaten down by Lyn mentally with Beyond Psych and never challenged the lunacy and changes by Lyn in the LC.


LarouchePalooza2010!





-We start the year off with an example of how being associated with the cult is not good for you.



http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:55c5...-Are-You-Loyal

Birthers, Tea Baggers, and Lyndon LaRouche.

If these are the people opposing Obama, then he MUST be doing something RIGHT.

-Should we add "losers" to the list of adjectives used to describe Lyn and the cult? There is something very funny here when you insult an arch enemy of Lyn like the Greens by calling them Larouche Losers.



http://blog.buzzflash.com/carpenter/574

wish the Green(Who?) losers would stop trying to behave worse than the LaRouche losers.

-I thought Lyn won another award for being DoucheBag of the year, however, it went to Paul Krugman who used Lyn to insult Ron Paul supporters!



http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...php?p=38103204

Originally Posted by gonfalon

P.S. Caulk Rocket, why was Krugman on your list? Just curious.



For his idiotic endorsement of Bernanke when he knows better, and for calling Ron Paul supporters the new "Larouchies" and then hiding like a bitch.

-Here Lyn is used as an expert on Nuclear Arms.



http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/200...nd-healthcare/

You’re citing Lyndon LaRouche?

Hee hee hee….



Thanks for the Lyndon LaRouche note. He looks as interesting as Ron Paul.

-Here I am home with the family and the heat on while the cult sends out members to potentially get assaulted and freeze at a card table shrine. That pesky web once again spells doom for the cult and Lyn. Sorry about that Lyn.



http://forums.projectcovo.com/showth...p?p=1093120011

What do ya'll think about Lyndon LaRouche?


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its funny that we was buildin on the banks and such and on my way to the librariodicals i ran into one of his supporters passin out literature in a grimy arse train station where a bunch of winos&homeless derelicts congregate...had one of those BOB Hitler joints...trust,in the Sco,aka liberal central,that takes nuts,in fact when i spotted dude some homeless cat was fukkin with him hardbody,dude was typical socialist material out here,young,white,and naive in ways of the bricks,i had to rescue him,the prophet(pbuh)says show rahem...

he was a bright dude,a creative thinker,when he realized i wasn't gonna go bad on him&was a similar thinker he ended up giving me the literature free without a donation...

anyways,LaRouche obv isn't gonna do shyt politically the way the electoral system is set up,but i respect him for his ideas,his fearlessness,and his knowledge of conspiracies,but he has limitations...

anyways,fill in some of the blanks for the god...


my bad sir,ya'll are much more wise with the finance aspect of politics then i,so i figured he was known,but i shouldn't assume...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

i got hard copies,but i figure it's more useful to give ya'll an overview afore you tear into him right away........


dood seems nuts as fuk.. he probably has a brilliant mind and was very intelligent but paranoia probably lead him in to some of his strange ways.

you can learn something from anybody, but this cat aint that cool from what I can find on the guy. Seems rather self righteous and that his denial of his ego ruined his chances politically..........................


Originally Posted by MOREOVER
dood seems nuts as fuk..

yes, dude is a whack job

http://www.cracked.com/article_16748...president.html

The 6 Most Insane People to Ever Run for President

#5.Lyndon LaRouche - 1976 U.S. Labor Party

Lyndon LaRouche has run for president at least eight times, first in 1976 as the U.S. Labor Party candidate, and later as a candidate for the Democratic nomination. Depending on who you ask, he is either a genius visionary or a bat**** insane conspiracy theorist. Hmm, let's see if we can find some evidence one way or the other...

Where do we start? He thinks either the Holocaust didn't happen or, if it did, wasn't all that bad and that some kind of evil Jewish/British cabal is at the heart of the world's problems. His political party looks an awful lot like a cult, with LaRouche holding tight-fisted control over a core group of dedicated followers.

Those are all good places to begin, but why settle for the good when we can go straight for the great? And by "great" we mean "the time he claimed someone kidnapped and brainwashed one of his staff members with the intent of programming them to assassinate him." According to LaRouche's group, the intended assassin was Chris White, a British national who had married LaRouche's ex-girlfriend. The young man was allegedly kidnapped by the CIA, in conjunction with the KGB. Sounds reasonable enough, what better friends were there in 1974 than the CIA and the KGB?

LaRouche's people said that, once in captivity, White was programmed so that when a trigger word was uttered, White would kill his wife, then LaRouche, and then blame the whole thing on Cuban assassins (got to work the Cubans in there). After all, if some dude just went crazy and killed his wife and her ex-boyfriend, how would you ever explain that?

-Mention here.

http://againstcommies009.blogspot.co...hypocrisy.html

Now the same even more, extreme Leftist fanatics have been doing it to the President and his supporters. Even occassionally joining alongside with Lyndon LaRouche supporters whom have been the ones painting this President like Hitler more than the town hallers and Tea Partiers ever have.

-Dick Cheney compared to Lyn? Every time you add Larouche to somehtng you get confusion.

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?p=606347

Quote:
He's a Lyndon LaRouche with a following that hang on his every word.

Lyndon LaRouche was a 7 time Democratic candidate and 1 time "Labor Party" candidate for president, who went to jail for tax and mail fraud.) How, specifically, does Dick Cheney compare to him?


Do you not see your post as being ridiculously and rhetorically off-the-wall?......................

You really don't know Dick's history? Really? Draft dodger extraordinaire? Too busy to volunteer? Saddam had nukes? An audience a million times larger than LaRouche ever had? Please don't tell me that after being on this board as long as you have that you are this historically deficient or that you have to be reminded of Cheney's history every time the page refreshes...

-To add to the above confusion, we add this.

http://conservatismrox.blogspot.com/...s-of-2009.html

Speaker Pelosi's comments reveal she is mixing up the facts. First mistake was she confused the LaRouche Democrat cult with Teaparty patriots. Also, the LaRouche cult was comparing Obama’s policies to Nazi’s policies. LaRouche people themselves are not Nazis, despite Nancy’s ignorant remarks.

- Now this is too funny. We have Doctor Webster Tarpley AND Larouche mentioned right next to each another on this blog.

http://fakeapoc.blogspot.com/2010/01...thout-its.html

from Obama has announced the partition of Pakistan - Webster Tarpley


[Tarpley has in recent years been painting the British out of the picture. So, his attempt to pin the blame on the CIA is suspicious. I included the quote only because it indicates that the Taliban have disavowed similar atrocities.]


December 3, 2009 (LPAC)—After months of deliberations and weighing pros and cons, President Obama made his second Af-Pak policy statement on Dec. 1, facing a host of grim-faced cadets at West Point. Lyndon LaRouche summarily stated of the policy: "It won't work." Pointing out the unworkable nature of the policy, numerous critics at home and abroad have jumped on the opportunity to trash Obama....

-The Moonie WashingtonTimes sports section gets trashed on the Redskins forum and the lut gets a mention.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...5a4ba319208714

Green Party members only watch games on natural grass.


Lyndon LaRouche groupies think sports are conspiracy to placate the
populace.

-This is a step up for the cult which is why they are calling these lists like mad for money.



http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/T...J3I3IO7I/p3731

Not wishing to offend you, Barry, by saying that you are not a totally f<><>ked up whacko, I must point out that there many who are more whacko than you for all of your efforts, They are so-called Libertarians who follow Ron Paul and fringies who follow Lyndon LaRouche and people who have moved to Montana and Utah to burrow compounds in the hills and mountains like the UniBomber and other gun rights advocates.

-Lyn is a disinformation agent on the David Icke Forum?



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97421

Quote:
Originally Posted by keithm
Iran Showdown Intensifies, As Khamenei Issues Death Order Against Opposition


January 2, 2010 (LPAC)—At one of this week's orchestrated pro-government rallies, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei denounced opposition leaders as "moharab," a Farsi word for "those who act against the will of God," according to a senior .....blah blah blah


Yet more propaganda. Why're you posting such crap? ...............

This cannot be taken serious...................

Lyndon Laurouche is a wanker.

Just another disinfo wanker who wants to blame the English for everything. ..................

Quote:
Lyndon LaRouche warned this week that Ahmadinejad is, for all practical purposes, a British agent

I'd agree with LaRouche on that. Ahmadinejad has been setting Iran up as a target from the time of his first election, by being deliberately confrontational, including of course setting himself up as a fake "antisemite"
He's a bit like a flyby Saddam Hussein, who of course was whisked out of Baghdad Airport by a Russian jet, whilst Baghdad was being taken ..

larouche a disinfo agent!!?

ffs he exposes the exact same people Icke, Jones, and everyone else do. Just because his preferred label is the "British Empire" instead of the "Illuminati" doesn't make him disinfo. He's on our side, clearly.....

-Larouche sure does mean business growth when you give him the time of day.

http://theblogcabin.com/homebase/bap...an-is-no-joke/

The last straw was the NCN’s recent story about two out-of-town Lyndon LaRouche supporters who set up shop on a local sidewalk. Although a short paragraph would have sufficed, the NCN wrote a long article with a lengthy quote from one of the supporters and another quote from LaRouche himself. Mr. Apar is, of course, free to endorse the fanatical anti-American beliefs of that lunatic—but not in a supposed news item.

By its decision to become a far-right rag, the NCN has forfeited the right to call itself a local newspaper. Fortunately, there are now free papers and websites that offer local news and events—without any editorial spin or politicizing. And, so, I am now fulfilling my first resolution of 2010 and am canceling my subscription to the NCN.

-Is this for real or a spoof blog?



http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=7753

While looking hard at the forces behind particular persons within the UK Column and their LaRouche connections, I was also made aware of the fact the British Constitution Group and the root of the UK Column were set in UKIP’s bosom, this began to make sense and I began to express my concerns on the UK Column forum without upsetting those concerned that certain quarters from which the UK Column was taking its influence needed to be scrutinised again. Many of the readers of the Column tended to see the danger, many retorted with anger at the Columns way of reporting everything Malthus. It did at one point degenerate into insults as those who resonate with LaRouche became very angry and defensive of their idol, so I ceased in trying to offer information, I did not wish to take anything away from Brian Gerrish and his remarkable work...................



Theosophy is controlled from here :

The John Adam Street Gang

BCG consists of :

Lyndon LaRouch (Theosophy)

John Harris Crown Family

Scientology (Theosophy)

UKIP – Alpha-Theosophy

-Some comments on a Larouche zombie at a Sara Palin book signing in Alaska who was not removed to prevent carpet bagging.



http://divasblueoasis.com/diary/967/...n-book-signing

also went to lunch with Kim Chatman and she provided me with the documents that were being handed out at the the book signing...including this "Lyndon LaRouche" magazine:



The entire magazine is a printing of the longest, crazy-ass speech on the planet. I believe you can hear it/read it on the website the magazine advertises or on YouTube.

-Speaking of carpetbagging and stinkbombs.



http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?p=1818969

Originally Posted by N2NH
Just look at the in-breds that they rely on for those ratings! Just take a gander at all the little teabaggers, with their mushy minds. They're the same people who voted for Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, Jr.

It sure likes like 2010 for Lyn and the cult will be a repeat of 2009 for the cult as the party starts. Carpetbag, stinkbombs, losers kooks etc. What a way to spend your prime years in.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[chator]

http://keshaforcongress.com/content/...empires-agenda

According to a recent statement on Lakesha Rogers campaign website LYM Candidates for Congress will hold a press conference at the National Press Club one week from Tuesday. I wonder what the media reaction will be.

[xlcr4life]

Chator The first question to her should be about how the Queen of England is directly behind Health Care Reform in taking over the US. That is straight from Lyn and LPAC.


LarouchePalooza2010!

-So far in 2010 we have a handfull of mentions onf the cult on blogs with one person reading them . Carol the Mouse Warrior of God seems to be the big Kahuna on leading the mass strike. As we predicted a year ago, Lyn wants to impeach Obama for the next fundraiser scipt.


http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topic...ource=activity


Wow! you take out the mentions of lyn as a nut and the latest mobe yields one Larouche Jabroni on the google search. There are more mentions of Steve Larouche the baseball player.



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[chator]

Originally Posted by xlcr4life

Chator The first question to her should be about how the Queen of England is directly behind Health Care Reform in taking over the US. That is straight from Lyn and LPAC.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

According to a news release on LPAC, the candidates will focus on LaRouche's latest call for Obama's impeachment, what lunacy!

[borisbad]

On Bob Kaufman, reading the part towards the end where he quoted LaRouche as saying that the LC was going to relace the AFL-CIO by June [1974] goes as one more of the hysterical laugher predictions made by the Wizard of Odd. Of course, I'm sure LaRouche told the membership back in 1974 that the only reason that didn't occur was due to the membership's "blocking" the standard reason for all of his mis predictions on the organization's growth.

[xlcr4life]

What made Monty Python so much fun to watch was seeing the meeting of multiple absurdities instead of just one absurdity in a sketch. Lyn has the same thing going as he begins his death spiral and spouts multiple nonsense to an ever decreasing band of sychophants. He is all over the Larouche planet and this may be THE year for him.

Take this LPAC release which calls the December attempted bombing of a Detroit bound airliner a "hoax"! Is this disinformation by the cult or just lunacy? That is a fine line at times.

The "Christmas terror bomber" hoax is Obama's hoax as a British empire agent, as Lyndon LaRouche has said. The Saudis and British are the world's terrorists. .................................

The true threat here, LaRouche commented, is that the British may have planted a bomb inside one of Obama's testicles. We don't know whether the Secret Service will be able to remove it in time. Obama now wants naked pictures of people taken in airports. But he himself may have an undetected bomb in his testicle. We don't need the naked pictures. And we don't need British agent Obama as President.

King has some new court docs on the lawsuit of Molly Kronberg with interesting notes.

Jan. 7: LaRouche and his co-defendants still trying to deny Molly Kronberg the counsel of her choice. Here's the "Defendants' Reply in Support of Their Joint Motion to Disqualify Former AUSA Markham," filed in federal court (Alexandria, Va.) on Dec. 31. The heart of this smoke and mirrors argument is as follows:

"Markham's representation of Kronberg in this case violates Rule 1.11(b) because Kronberg's present federal claim for witness retaliation under 42 U.S.C. §1985(2) is predicated upon, and involves similar facts and parties, as the Alexandria and Boston Prosecutions in which Markham participated 'personally and substantively' as an AUSA. Kronberg's testimony as a witness in the Alexandria Prosecution is the linchpin of her federal claim that Defendants' defamed her in retaliation for that testimony. Indeed, in opposing Defendants' Motion to Dismiss her section 1985(2) claim as being insufficiently plausible under Iqbal, Kronberg has argued that there is a clear connection between her testimony as a witness in the Alexandria Prosecution and the Defendants' alleged defamatory statements. Hence, it is Kronberg, herself, who has forged the connecting link between the two cases: her present federal court action and the prior federal court proceedings in which she testified."

Huh? Mrs. Kronberg's case is not "predicated upon" the 1988 criminal prosecutions of LaRouche for mail and credit card fraud. Mrs. Kronberg's civil suit is concerned with an entirely different matter--cruel acts of libel and personal harassment beginning two decades later in 2008. The only "connecting link" is a circumstantial one forged by LaRouche himself when he recklessly alleged (among other things) that Mrs. Kronberg had committed perjury (an act that carries felony penalties) as a witness at the second of his 1988 trials, thus supposedly becoming the primary cause of his (and six of his followers') conviction and incarceration. LaRouche made this allegation only after Mrs. Kronberg publicly denounced him in 2007 and blamed him for driving her husband to suicide. Before that date, she was never the target of perjury allegations from LaRouche, any of LaRouche's 1988 co-defendants, or anyone else in the LaRouche organization. (What LaRouche apparently has done in his typical politically paranoid fashion is to decide that Mrs. Kronberg is now an enemy "agent" and thus she must always have been an enemy agent and therefore she must have perjured herself in his 1988 trial--and should be punished for it.)

Defendants would like the judge to believe that Mrs. Kronberg's suit and the federal government's 1988 case against LaRouche involve "similar facts" to a significant degree and that Mrs. Kronberg's case will somehow turn into a retrial of the issues for which LaRouche was sent to prison. But why should those issues even arise? The trial record shows that Mrs. Kronberg's testimony was of a noncontroversial nature and had little if anything to do with LaRouche's conviction. The real issue is whether or not LaRouche has any evidence to back up his allegation that Mrs. Kronberg lied on the witness stand. He has presented no such evidence (unless one takes seriously his mystical "hypothesis of the higher hypothesis" deductions based on his demented conspiracy theories), and indeed no such evidence exists.

If this case goes to trial, it will be determined not by delving into the financial crimes for which LaRouche was convicted in 1988, but simply by requiring LaRouche to present the slightest shred of evidence that Mrs. Kronberg perjured herself at his trial.

And then there's the harassment issue--LaRouche causing his followers to circulate literature around the town of Leesburg, Virginia, where Mrs. Kronberg lives, alleging that she drove her husband to suicide in 2007 and that she's a "witch" and a "bitch." I defy LaRouche to show how Mrs. Kronberg's complaint re this recent reprehensible behavior (which his attorneys sneeringly dismiss as a "garden variety" defamation claim) is predicated at all upon the issues at trial in 1988.



Leesburg, Va. If you were a grieving widow in this town--where everyone knows everyone else--how would you like to have a malicious clique going around telling your neighbors that you drove your husband to suicide?
Given the bind that LaRouche has placed himself in by failing to curb his tongue and repress his violent emotions, it is no wonder that he and his co-defendants are grasping at straws--by attempting to make Mrs. Kronberg's attorney the issue and get him removed from the case at all costs.

Earlier filings re the motion to disqualify John Markham can be read

LarouchePalooza 2010!

-We find multiple absurdity fun on the God Like forum where Lyn is now out ot save Obama's life while others are out to expose Lyn.


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage959742/pg1

Re: LaRouche: More Than Ever, Maintain President Obama's Security Quote

damn! that makes ya think, thats for sure! creepy $hit!.....................


i thought their prediction of economic mayhem by the end of this month was bold enough..crazy..............


This is the most ricidulous twisting of facts I have ever read on Obama - the usurper in chief.
He has only himself to blame & maybe one should look homebound rather than across the Atlantic.

Larouche is BS-ing & deluding those who think he's giving it to you straight when those who know a bit better know that Larouche is a known DIS-informant.

BS-ing is Larouche's fulltime job. He ain't gonna give it to ya straight for crying out loud.

The British...! What a joke!

It must've been "the British" who hung the Obama effigy hanging from some frontside of the house like scene straight from Mississipi Burning.

Obama wasn't "groomed" by the British, he was handpicked by the Russians & the Communists. Obummer's entire background has Communist written all over it. .................I was never fooled by that con-artist. Sod Larouche & who'll lie to you without making a face.....................


LaRouche should be careful before he ends up in a pine box himself.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 859318

They tried that once.


The Night They Came To Kill Me

by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.

This statement was issued by the LaRouche in 2004 Presidential campaign committee on March 2, 2004.

On October 6, 1986, a virtual army of more than four hundred armed personnel descended upon the town of Leesburg, Virginia, for a raid on the offices of EIR and its associates, and also deployed for another, darker mission................

I am surprised that the prison assasination attempt disguised as a colonoscopy at the Mayo clinic on Lyn was not mentioned here

-Here we have an interesting take on the cult and WHY it never goes anywhere.



http://www.tribtalk.com/showthread.php?p=390396

couple of years ago I was approached by the Constitution party and asked to run for office, which I did. I put $16 bucks into the campaign, and responded to various interested citizens and groups, made the news once, and got about 400 votes, all without ever attending any party meeting or event. . . .

Before that I tried to interest some Utahns in Lyndon LaRouche, and read a lot of the EIR issues then, along with Fidelio and their technology magazines. LaRouche loves FDR as the best president ever, and tells some interesting stories.

My favorite is about a conversation between FDR and Churchill in regard to ending imperialism. At FDR's suggestion that India should be given independence, Churchill snorted that they could never govern themselves, with all their local antipathies, religious conflicts, and inept leadership. . . . to which FDR replied that the British had once entertained all of these notions in regard to the American colonies.

LaRouche runs a top-down little movement where you get little chance to influence the direction, a lot like the John Birch Society, Eagle Forum, or CWA, as I view it I don't think they act as anything like an American representative democracy or republic

-Howie has this report on his adventure at a local bookstore.

http://www.struat.com/election/2010/...l-time-stalin/



The march to world power instead of taking over the AFL-CIO is right on schedule LYMsters. Have a great time telling people about how AQ terror attempts are hoaxes.



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[howie]

Joining the Re-elect Harry Reid Committee?
http://patdollard.com/2010/01/harry-...rom-town-hall/

Conspiracy time here
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...hall-media-mum
Why is it that it's always LaRouchies who manage to get in to events (like the woman denounced by Barney Frank in his town hall)? Possibly Dingy Harry set this up to have 1 LaRouche guy against a packed house of his supporters and hacks, as a way of disparaging opponents of his disgusting health care bill?

I am sure his people prescreened everyone judging from the fact that everyone in the auditorium was against the LaRouche guy and for Harry ("Sit down! Sit down!"). That's not a response you could get from any average gathering of citizens in America; more likely they'd be shouting at Reid to sit down!
AND

I come from a Communist family from way back in the 19th Century in czarist russia and Ukraine. The use of provocation and cut outs (such as the Larouchies) by leftists is part and parcel of leftist MO. We do not know if this guy was lAROUCHIE OR NOT....all that mattered was that sentiment against the health bill was alligned, however temporarily, with Larouchism and this will have some staying power.

More to the point we will be seeing a lot of this type of politics as we move into the fall which is why we who oppose the Democrat Party of Plunder must work extra hard and bring into the fold many who are expressing increasing disdain for the Dems and their plunder.

........................

Response to a larouchie trying to interject on this page.

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/01/...-ben-bernanke/
Not interested in LaRouche press releases, thank you anyway.
Don’t bring that stuff around here, okay?
..........................

And the most random mentions ever.
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/2...he-advertiser/

Hey, Paczkowski - nice job on cultivating an intelligent, fair-minded readership. You must be big among the LaRouche subscribers, huh? LOL

Could Palm could purchase a similar ad on Google.com to advertise the Pre and Pixi? Could I purchase one to promote my line of Worldwide LaRouche Youth Movement casual wear?

I don't think so.
......................................
In other items, press item from LPAC.
<i>With the collapse of President Obama's popularity to the level of dead meat, Lyndon LaRouche renewed his warning about the danger of assassination of the President today. </i>

Back to the "Assassination" kick. Also, Dead Meat has an approval rating of -- let's say 48 percent?

[scout]

I appreciate the work FactNet is doing to debunk cults and generally fraudulent b.s. and propaganda being put out by various groups. If someone has a couple of minutes I would like to get some feedback on some of Larouche's bete noires:

The New Age movement--are there sinister elements to this or is the targeting of the NA movement just a foil or ploy to get money for the battle against cultural decadence?

www.quatloos.com has an ongoing debate on various frauds--more of the sovereign and paytriot movements--presumably these are bigger on the government's hit parade than religious and political cults, but ultimately hubris is rewarded with government prosecution--it make take longer in the U.S. for the government to get serious after other countries have leaders there in custody and under indictment. Any prediction for when the Larouche movement will encounter serious legal problems?

What is the biggest character weakness that draws people to cults, and what could be done in terms of parenting and education to recruit-proof young adults to the b.s.?

I recently received a very procative book by lawyer Scott Lively, "The Pink Swastika"--any thoughts on the merit of this book and his site that tries to counter the "gay rights" movement? Why has he been rather successful on a shoestring budget but Larouche with a traditionalist morality position been unsuccessful with the tons of money he gets?
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/...on_-_final.htm

[chator]

Others may be able to comment better on the New Age angle, the attempt made by the LaRouchies is usually to accuse the NA movement of paganism, satanism, et al. So its an attempt to recruit or appeal to the Christian conspiraphiles by showing that "LaRouche's on their side," and that "their battle is his battle." Of course, he throws in a few elements they are not used to in his concoction, like the British origin of all things evil.

On what draws people to cults, i would suggest Eric Hoffer's book, the True Believer. He breaks down the different personality types that usually get caught up in "revolutionary" movements. His perspective is that "outsiders" are the general type. That is, people that don't seem to fit into society for some reason or another. He also thinks these types tend to not have strong egos. That they are followers rather than leaders in temperment.

[chator]

Rachel Brown's campaign website is now up here, http://www.rachelforcongress.com/

Here's a video campaign 2010 update from Harley Schlanger just recently posted on LPAC, http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=13081

[xlcr4life]

Scout Welcome to this section . I will try to answer some of your questions.

The New Age Movement covers a lot of territory and is not immune from fraud, cultism and cheap parlor tricks. Most of the people I know who wander into New Age style thinking usually are after a spiritual answer and then pick and choose whatever they feel comfortable with. Under this umbrella you can include a lot of things including healthy living as well as crystals philosophy of life and other things. People can choose what they want to do with their lives, however, there will be con artists in just about any field of life.

Chator is right on the money about how the Larouche cult will bend to fit into the religious layers they wish to call for money and support. The cult can spin off some articles about the eeevils of rock music or invent Satanic conspiracies about child abuse conspiracies to gain an audience. I do not know if you were a member or how much you know about the cult, but in the 1980s we wanted to make money off of the RTL supporters. To this end we created a front called "The CLub of Life" to be used and had a national executive named Nancy Spannaus head up the USA version of this with Helga Larouche as the World boss.

How crazy were and are we? We had a large number of abortions performed on our members after intensive pressure within the LC by Lyn and the underlings of his. Nancy played a big role in that over the years.

Overall, the way you have to look at this is how the cult has as it's directive is to eliminate any options for a member to see anything else or anyone else and only see Lyn as the solution. Everyone else is backward except the few if us in the cult who will save humanity from a New Dark Age. It really is a very simple formula in a cult where you create a very scary outside world to fear. Not only that, you also have to degrade and attack anything which a member will have a history or experience with as part of the stripping of the individual's past and identity.

As far as character weakenesses go, we have covered a lot of that in this thread. Family issues, especially with your father is a big factor in how many people joined the LC. Self delusions of being important and a genius is a big issue as joining the LC/LYM allows you to become a world leader and a genius as well as a cultural baron all while freezing at a card table shrine or chained to a telephone in a boiler room for decades. Since many of us here have kids, I would guess that everyone has had in the back of their minds about how to keep their kids safe as they grow up. Critical thinking skills has to be accompanied with a lot of "street smarts" skills. Huxters are dime a dozen. I think explaining the world in how things operate, evolve, change etc are important. Politics and issues should not be a mystery and how things happen is important to teach.

Just because your kids are smart does not mean that they are immune from cults. Quite the contrary. Cults need smart people and do not need limited people except for a few to be at the bottom. I would wager that EVERY member of the LC/LYM considers themselves to be smarter then their peers or teachers at some time as they entered the crazy town. Just look at some of the people who lost their money in some of the bigger ponzi schemes. You have very smart people who made a lot of money who had some flaws which a con man can take advantage of. Greed, self importance, being part of a "secret" society of insiders with high returns. The narcistic personalities of the leaders of cons, cults and schemes usually have a lot in common. After I left the LC I worked for a con man who was striking in his similarity to Lyn without the veneer of the LC.

Legally, the cult still has issues in Europe with the Duggan death and now has issues with a law suit brought on by Molly Kronberg.


King has some info about this.

http://lyndonlarouche.org/larouche-newest1.htm

Jan. 10: Justice Department determines that Markham's representation of Molly Kronberg does not violate federal law or regulations. Last fall, attorney John Markham--currently the target of a disqualification motion filed by the defendants in Kronberg v. LaRouche et al.--contacted the U.S. Attorney's office for the Eastern District of Virginia for its opinion of the propriety of his serving as Mrs. Kronberg's lawyer in light of his role--as a former assistant U.S. attorney--in the 1988 criminal prosecutions of LaRouche and several of LaRouche's associates.

Markham received a reply from U.S. Attorney Neil H. MacBride (E.D. Va.) signed by AUSA Robert K. Coulter on Jan. 7--just in time for the court hearing the next day on LaRouche's motions to disqualify Markham and dismiss the case. Here's the key passage:

"Based on the facts as presented and the applicable law, the Executive Office of U.S. Attorney's General Counsel's Office has determined that your representation of Ms. Kronberg is not prohibited pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 207 and 5 C.F.R. § 2637.201."

The letter did not offer an opinion on whether Markham's representation of Mrs. Kronberg conflicts with Virginia Rule of Professional Conduct 1.11, stating merely that this "constitutes an issue properly to be considered by the Virginia State Bar Association."

The judge could still rule in favor of the defendants, and even if he doesn't they could appeal the decision. But somehow I don't think that Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. aka Der Abscheulicher is in a very good mood this weekend (but when is he ever in a good mood nowadays?).

Based on how the cult runs members I see issues with taxes and various labor laws. Always keep in mind that cults like being cults because most governing bodies do not wish to enter this crazy town until something very extreme happens or a member ciles a complaint. Most people do now wish to be known as being taken in a con or by a cult.

Most real movements or orgs try to win something tangible. Lyn's goal is a cult of personality where he is master of the universe. Everthing else is a sideshow to that goal which is why nothing succeeds in the cult. You take people out of the cult and they have to deal with the real world and get real results instead of a nod from Lyn.



Chator That is some stinkbomb the Tea Partiers will have with them for a while.




LarouchePalooza 2010!


I have this feeling that the Tea Party people and the GOP will be regretting not getting rid of the cult from day one and inhaling the fumes from their stinkbombs. You and I can differentiate between the cult and people who have concerns over legislation, but that aint gonna happen with part of the general public.

-A letter to the editor.

http://www.tdn.com/news/opinion/arti...cc4c03286.html

Don't let the Silver Lake contingent and other right-wingers of the John Birch Society and Lyden LaRouche steer you wrong with their Fox News lies and propoganda sound bits..

http://howtocatchacheater.net/1167/d...-their-spouse/

Funny how the GOP can’t stay away from the fringe groups. John Birch Society, Lyndon LaRouche, the militias, etc.

-What happened when the cult intervened at a Harry Reid meeting in Las Vegas? Rachel did not do an intervention.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-praise...-80983997.html

I have to say I have a point,'' said Michael Steger, the heckler who later identified himself as a supporter of Lyndon LaRouche, a perennial candidate for president and controversial activist.

The crowd of more than 450 mostly Reid supporters and Democrats shouted the man down, chanting ''sit down, sit down, sit down," which he refused to do.

Several men in the audience then grabbed him by the arms and dragged him to campus police, who released him outside.

Reid shook his head.

You can see a video here on the Tea Party site!



http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/pro...ctivist-expose



Lyn is viewed as part of the Right!

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/inde...c=105091&st=20

not going to excuse some of the behavior. But as LA pointed out, AS LIKE WHEN A LEFT-SIDED PROTEST ATTRACTS THE FRINGE WEIRDOS, the right-sided ones do, too. Like the Larouche nuts

and here.

http://speakeasy.jazzcorner.com/spea...d.php?p=857073

Well, it seems that that section includes language purporting to prevent its amendment or repeal by any future Congress. The right--from LaRouche to Palin is having a grand mal about it

Another effect of the stinkbomb on the Tea Party.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wi...erton-notes-la

FNC’s Kennedy Claims ‘Anti-Semitism’ in ‘Tea Bag’ Movement, Pinkerton Notes LaRouche Leftists Used Obama/Hitler Image
By Brad Wilmouth (January 9, 2010 - 17:37 ET


On Saturday's Fox News Watch, panel member and FNC correspondent Douglas Kennedy referred to Tea Party members as the "Tea Bag movement," prompting admonishment from host Jon Scott who pointed out that he was using the "pejorative" term. In the next segment, Kennedy went on to accuse Tea Party members of anti-Semitism and linked Obama/Hitler posters to Tea Party members, leading panel member Jim Pinkerton to remind viewers that an Obama/Hitler poster sometimes attributed in the media to conservative Tea Party members had actually been brought to a protest by left-wing supporters of Lyndon LaRouche – who ran for President in the past as a Democrat:

DOUGLAS KENNEDY: You know, just tell them to leave the swastikas home and the pictures of Hitler, and the, you know, they might gain a little more popularity.

JIM PINKERTON: The pictures of Hitler brought in by Lyndon LaRouche people, you know, who are actually, Lyndon LaRouche ran as a Democrat seven times.

KENNEDY: Yeah, but there's anti-Semitism and-

A bit of anger for the stinkbombing froma Christian blog..


http://forums.christianity.com/m_272...tm.htm#4702977

Larouche supporters are the same democrats that show up at TEA PARTIES w/ Obama as Hitler signs to make it look like it's us..

-The Larouche card for crazy is played here.



http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/2...mod=googlenews

Hey, Paczkowski - nice job on cultivating an intelligent, fair-minded readership. You must be big among the LaRouche subscribers, huh? LOL

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/ar...slam-today.php

At this point he’s as idiosyncratic as the LaRouche idiots; he shouldn’t be taken as a clear example of any larger philosophy.

-Amelia Robinson will have this as part of her life. One wonders if she ever found out about what the cult has said and is doing against her choice of Obama in the election.


http://qq2009qq2009.cn/2010/01/what-...yton-robinson/


-Keisha Rogers gets coverage!


http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=389x7426398

Any LaRouche people running for office in your area? We have a lady, Keisha Rogers a LaRoucher running for congress in Texas CD 22, Tom DeLay's old district as a Democrat. She has the gall to come to our meetings with other LaRouchers passing out flyers with Obama pictured as Hitler and calling for his impeachment.

She is not getting any support from us and no one will help her...........................

All of the ones I have met are 35 year old tools who have never gotten laid and still live in their parents' basement....................................


I was accosted in Harvard Square, Cambridge by one of them.
I asked him how you could actively campaign for a kook as I walked away laughing......................



I met them at an anti-war protest back in 2002/2003. I didn't know it was them at first and signed a sheet of theirs. I included my phone number.

THEY ****ING CALLED ME FOR LIKE FIVE ****ING YEARS NON-STOP EVERY WEEK EVEN THOUGH I DEMANDED THEY TAKE MY NAME OFF THEIR LIST.

Eventually, I just refused to answer but it was goddamn annoying. GODDAMN ANNOYING..................

Charlie MansonCharlie Manson Isn't he a LaRouchie? I think he's their most rational member.......................



No, but every so often they set up a table in front of the Post Office... and **** of just about everyone...........................


they always want to 'accost' me and argue and i have nothing to even say to them any longer--they're all brain-dead...just a few weeks ago, one loserlarouchie told me that Obama was responsible for the mammogram dust-up---all his fault that i couldn't get a mammogram every year! what? wherethehell did that one come from?

brain-dead, for sure...........................


I made a "LaRouche Movie" similiar to my "Nader Movie" (dooga dooga dooga dooga). Except that I didn't do the talking in this one, just asked some questions and let the woman run on about how LaRouche is the most truthful person who's ever lived on the planet and what-not.

I want to know what they do to these people to make them start acting like that. Like what is the reward they offer for this zealotry, and what is the punishment they say they'll get if they leave?

She gave me a bunch of publications of theirs for free, and when I saw that they normally charged a lot of money for them, I got to thinking that the thing is like Scientology in that they make their money selling over-priced printed material to their members.

-Larouche Jabroni timeout, with the usual results. Can Doctor Webster Tarpley's supporters be posting about Lyn's anti semitism?

http://moneymarket-funds.com/2010/01...-war-movement/

you are right about everything until you get to La Rouche...........



LaRouche? The anti semitic Nazi La Rouche. The anti American and anti British La Rouche.



what program is this, where can I listen to it? I love Tarpley, figuratively of course

-A large article by David Goldman (The survival of the Church linked to Israel? )is on this blog with a comment about him.



http://theinfounderground.com/forum/...t=8314&p=34758

But, for now let me tell you about David P. Goldman and then the rag First Things.

David P. Goldman used to write under the nom de plume, Spengler, over at Asia Times. He also helped Lyndon LaRouche write one of his books. In other words he is a Zionist Nut Job.

-Not too friendly here when a Jabroni enters the chat room.



http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum...t/page__st__75

Posted 09 January 2010 - 03:19 PM

Quote

It's interesting that this type of sub-human trash is what you allow in the 'Liberals only" room. It's so obvious he's not Liberal, but rather a Conservatard disquised as a Liberal to make trouble for you.


I agree. Notice how he is constantly ranting on about all of the favorite conspiracy theory canards of the far-right; viz, "one-world government," "eugenics," vast socialist conspiracies, &c. Also notice his sources for such conspiracies are invariably drawn from far-right (typically neo-nazi) websites, such as the Schiller institute and Lyndon LaRouche articles.

-A mention on a Christian web site?

http://www.americanvision.org/worldv...67&t=3&p=19555

Start thinking folks! Lyndon Larouche has already classified us as a large bunch of "non-thinkers." He is one very aware man at 87 but let's blow that non-thinker's charge to the 4-winds.

-This person is getting closer to the story.

http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/...d.php?p=674718

also heard that some of the really offensive stuff at the Tea Party protests was courtesy of Lyndon LaRouche members. They often station themselves outside a local health food store and they're pretty extreme, but I seem to remember Cheney was their favorite target. Maybe they just go after whoever's in office.

What did I learn today?


A few weeks ago Lyn had a LPAC release which was really nasty towards the Tea Party people. That was for the internal consumption so that no one dare leave and see some real grass roots organising. After Lyn put his finger in the air, he sensed that this is where the money can come from. The LYMsters will be raising money for a so called Democratic supporting LPAC while also sending people to join in the Tea Party at local meetings who are against Democrats!

Meanwhile, people are posting that the Tea Party is one with the cult at certain points. Lyn is also seen as part of the right wing.

None of this rationale or logical if you follow the logic instead of the boiler room lists.

It only makes sense to me because I was in the LC and went through this the same way the LYM and LYMettes are going through this now.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[chator]

Originally Posted by xlcr4life

-What happened when the cult intervened at a Harry Reid meeting in Las Vegas? Rachel did not do an intervention.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-praise...-80983997.html

You can see a video here on the Tea Party site!

http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/pro...ctivist-expose

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

What's so weird is to hear the LYMers spin the Steiger intervention as an example of the Mass Strike. After watching that video, I don't know how anyone could deny that the mass strike was moving against him and not for him! The audience took him out like he was garbage, or as you would put it, a stinkbomb, polluting the auditorium.

[scout]

I guess there are common threads between Larouche's cult--which has a lot of intellectuals and intelligent people, and others that tend to attract people who don't feel a narcissitic need to rule the world. The narcissism definition may be a key to these leaders--and maybe these groups should be left alone because otherwise the asylums would be a lot more full, not because cult members are nuts, but because they need structure.

The effect on the paytriot movement of Ed Brown's arrest, conviction, and imprisonment has been typical--: http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...php?f=8&t=5269 Larouche is not primative enough to assemble a cobalt or "dirty" bomb and then try to wrest power for his cohorts from Obama.

[Hylozoic Hedgehog]

Originally Posted by scout

I appreciate the work FactNet is doing to debunk cults and generally fraudulent b.s. and propaganda being put out by various groups. If someone has a couple of minutes I would like to get some feedback on some of Larouche's bete noires:

The New Age movement--are there sinister elements to this or is the targeting of the NA movement just a foil or ploy to get money for the battle against cultural decadence?

www.quatloos.com has an ongoing debate on various frauds--more of the sovereign and paytriot movements--presumably these are bigger on the government's hit parade than religious and political cults, but ultimately hubris is rewarded with government prosecution--it make take longer in the U.S. for the government to get serious after other countries have leaders there in custody and under indictment. Any prediction for when the Larouche movement will encounter serious legal problems?

What is the biggest character weakness that draws people to cults, and what could be done in terms of parenting and education to recruit-proof young adults to the b.s.?

I recently received a very procative book by lawyer Scott Lively, "The Pink Swastika"--any thoughts on the merit of this book and his site that tries to counter the "gay rights" movement? Why has he been rather successful on a shoestring budget but Larouche with a traditionalist morality position been unsuccessful with the tons of money he gets?
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/...on_-_final.htm

If you want to study any group and not "cults" as an abstract term, you have to look at their specific history and the cultural, social, and political context in which they arose. The Labor Committee came out of the political ferment of the 1960s, a story that is exhaustively detailed on LaRouche Planet both in my book and separate study of the period from 1966-1971. The way the group became a cult during 1973-74 is also discussed in detail.

As for people being "followers," it is easy to forget that the vast majority of members of the Labor Committee have long left the organization. Some who stayed did so because they were married to true believers even if they were not. But if we were all followers with father issues, why did so many people leave?

In order to have any credible analysis of any group like the Labor Committee, you have to take into account the fact that so many people left from the highest leadership level to the ordinary person selling New Solidarity on the street.

I don't doubt that there are certain conformist personalities who were looking for a home of sorts, and over time they may reflect a disproportionate number of people who remained. But as far as I can tell, almost everyone I really knew personally has long left, most of them just a few years after me.

I have no information about how many people went through the LYM, but I suspect the turnover rate is high there as well.

This idea that cults attract pod people conformist personalities who stay forever is ridiculous. Maybe some do but my sense is that cults tend to be highly unstable groupings and are forever trying to invent new gimmicks to keep their followers in line. Also it is clear that some groups that become cults down the road don't start out as cults. So how do you explain the people who joined when the group wasn't a cult?

It also may be that over time as a cult further and further contracts, it does become more pod-people like, which may in part explain why something like the LC refuses to fall apart. But this is the result of a 40 year process of "unnatural selection." You have to look at any social grouping as it developed (and/or devolved) over time.

The fact is that in terms of membership the LC lost the ability to seriously recruit anyone new after 1974-75 and suffered continual steady attrition over the decades that included the loss of Detroit, the mass exodus over the Gus farce, and virtually all of Europe by the early 1990s.

The grouping that you see today is a total Potemkin (Leesburg) Village and reflects the ongoing process of attrition and implosion that first began when it couldn't attract any new recruits after 1974-75 and then began splitting internally by the early 1980s at the latest with individual members leaving on their own well before then.

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by chator

What's so weird is to hear the LYMers spin the Steiger intervention as an example of the Mass Strike. After watching that video, I don't know how anyone could deny that the mass strike was moving against him and not for him! The audience took him out like he was garbage, or as you would put it, a stinkbomb, polluting the auditorium.

Chator, now you can see why I always think of the LC/LYM as being a Bizarro World where everything is opposite of what it really is.

Originally Posted by Hylozoic Hedgehog

....The grouping that you see today is a total Potemkin (Leesburg) Village and reflects the ongoing process of attrition and implosion that first began when it couldn't attract any new recruits after 1974-75 and then began splitting internally by the early 1980s at the latest with individual members leaving on their own well before then.

HH You are so right about this. The number one task in Leesburg for members is to find a job! There is also another Bizarro world rumour we are hearing about how bad the finances are. We will get to that later as it is too funny to ignore.





Larouche Palooza 2010!


The Tea Parties are finding out that the effects of the cult stinkbomb can last a long time. They do not know that the history of the cult is very simple. If you work or associate with Lyn and the cult, you will lose everything over time. Only the scam artists walked away with millions and a good laugh.



-At the Detroit auto show we find the cult stinkbombing a tea party rally and a frustrated tea party member cries out for help.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1...roit-Auto-Show.

But the Teabaggers got an earful from some of Detroit's union folks who weren't happy with their message. The Labor Notes says "The most popular chant of the day: "Not some lousy bag of tea, union jobs for you and me!""

Oh, and the LaRouche faction was there and, as the Reuters article explains it, their Obama-as-Hitler signs make the Teabaggers uncomfortable:

One of the tea party activists to distance himself from this group was Andy Moylan, a 26-year-old who said that he had tried unsuccessfully to remonstrate with this group prior to the protest and asked them to discard the Obama-as-Hitler posters.

"They’re sending the wrong message," he said, jerking his head toward the group. "I oppose Obama’s policies vehemently. I don’t agree with what he is trying to do. But I believe that he is well-intentioned, even if he is dead wrong. Comparing him to Hitler is not only wrong on so many levels, it also reflects badly on us because all the pictures in the papers and on TV will be of them."

"Our message will get lost in that," he added.


Lay down with dogs, Andy... (5+ / 0-)

Comparing him to Hitler is not only wrong on so many levels, it also reflects badly on us because all the pictures in the papers and on TV will be of them."
"Our message will get lost in that," [teabagger Andy Moylan] added.



...you get fleas.





WTF is with the laroucheys????

i can understand the teabagger trolls, but laroucheys are just too damn crazy.

but it looks like at least they have some good side effects. their obama=hitler BS and general insanity is mistaken for teabagging.

that is not to say that teabaggers do not have their own special kind of insanity.
they do not even realize that they pay the same or lower taxes than they did under GWB.





Bush was also Hitler with the Laroucheys

I think everyone not LaRouche is seen as the enemy.

It's a cult no more or less crazy than the Heaven's Gate/Hale-Bopp comet crowd.



How old is LaRouche these days, anyway?

What will the cult do when he dies





"You mean THOSE racists? They're not Teabaggers"

"They're . . . . LaRouches! Yeah . . .that's it . . . LaRouches

-Go to the end of this video and you will see the cult being asked a question of why they hate "green cars". The cult answers that they do not need those "pieces of $hit" but need Maglevs!



I rarely raise my voice, but.... You f'ing idiot, you had two members run out of gas and die two summers ago not too far from where you are today. Who the F are you to talk about fuel mileage with 20 year old Larouchemobiles on the road?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlURT...layer_embedded


-Here you can see some pix of current LYMsters

http://jalopnik.com/5445634/video-de...rst-protesters

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (and TV cameras) attracted a few Tea Party and anti-Tea Party protesters to the Detroit Auto Show, as well as many singing LaRouche followers, confused Green Party members and other attention-starved hangers-on. Let's talk to them!

-More Auto Show coverage via Cleveland.



http://www.cleveland.com/business/in...rotestors.html

Four of the protesters, supporters of political activist Lyndon LaRouche, carried signs depicting President Barack Obama with a Hitler-style mustache.

-How is the mass strike of Nancy and Lyn working on Labor by being against products like electric cars?

http://labornotes.org/blogs/2010/01/...ers-soup-lines



[quoteMembers of the National Taxpayers Union, joined by members of the weird-fringe Lyndon LaRouche group, said the government never should have bailed out the auto companies at all, and should stop “meddling in the industry’s restructuring.”[/quote]



-Funny comments about the cult. This is what people really think of LYM and LYMettes.

http://community.livejournal.com/ont...l/5062546.html

Whenever I hear these people speak I want to put my head through a brick wall...............



That's so funny! Whenever I hear these people speak, I want to put their heads through a brick wall!



Nonsensical, photoshopped signs? Bad acapella renditions of classical music? It seems like LaRouchies everywhere follow the same plan.

-Stinkbombing effects.



http://www.riehlworldview.com/carniv...tea-party.html

Detroit Auto Show: Cold Enough For A Tea Party
Not a huge turn-out, but some Tea Party folks had the determination to show up despite Detroit's well below freezing temperatures during the auto show, other groups did, as well. Pictures and some video here. Two interesting, possibly even troubling items of note - a black LaRouche supporter with poster of a Hitler-mustached Obama, how's that for diversity?

-NO matter how much the cult tries to rewrite history......



http://denmarkvesey.blogspot.com/201...-this-guy.html

Conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche, leader of a fringe political cult that defies categorization, and his supporters have the contributed to divisiveness [failing to conform] surrounding the public debate on health care reform by producing and disseminating materials comparing President Barack Obama and other government officials to Hitler, Nazis and fascists, and by attending Congressional "town hall" meeting and other events around the country.

LaRouche's organization is built upon a cadre of loyal supporters and publications that promote his conspiratorial world views. LaRouche, 86, has a long record of advancing conspiracy theories linking the AIDS crisis, the drug epidemic and to prominent Jews and Jewish organizations. For many years, LaRouche international financial criseshas employed Holocaust imagery to express his opposition to a wide range of political issues.

Blaming the Jews for everything evil. This editorial, "Bust the American Drug Lobby--the ADL," calls on the public to rise up: "If you hate drugs, Satanism, the KGB and the police state brutalization of pro-life activists, then you owe it to yourself and your children to do everything in your power to shut down the ADL. There can be no War on Drugs and no genuine freedom so long as the American Drug Lobby exists." LaRouche has long used the ADL (Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith) as an easily-understood euphemism for the Jewish community in general. (LaRouche's court Jews will say no, he's only talking about "rich Jews," but this distinction would be lost on most non-Jewish readers of LaRouche's propaganda.) Read the last sentence of the above quote again: "There can be no...genuine freedom so long as the ______ exists." Fill in the blank. Even if you include the adjective "rich," it's still a repulsive statement.

-Another mass strike comment about Detroit.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2426258/posts

The Lyndon LaRouche idiots showed up too.

-Carol , the Mouse warrior of God Laoruche Jabroni does a sort of Larouche mind meld with the Tea Party.



http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/bl...rime-bordering



Finally, Lyn used to tell the press and us that there is way too much made of him and the Queen of England. In the bunker, he gets crazier and crazier. He can't help himself as he nears the end.



http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12939

You put everything on Copenhagen; you are dead! And if President Obama goes with this, he's politically dead, too! And if the Queen of England goes with this, she's politically dead, too!

You tell em Lyn.



I hope everyone had a great weekend and I send my sympathies to Philadelphia Eagle fans. It was a very cold weekend and just perfect to put the heat on and watch the NFL playoffs. Can you imagine how cold a LYMSter gets at an outdoor card table shrine this time of year? Who wants to get a phone call from a raving lunatic during prime playoff games? On Sunday night I watched the 20th anniversary of the Simpsons TV special and laughed at how the world is a better place because of a cartoon we laugh with while whomever knows the cult laughs AT Larouche.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[chator]

http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=13105

The LYM press conference held at the National Press Club yesterday is now available for viewing from the above link.

I didn't find any news stories on it this morning through a brief Google search, only a brief mention of the news conference itself.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/0...he-candidates/

[poe]

The LaRouche Pac site has an article about Iceland that quotes Michael Hudson.


http://larouchepac.com/node/13060

Also, Michael Hudson from the University of Missouri writes that "Iceland has the right to refuse debt servitude."

The LYM who wrote it must not realize who Hudson is.

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PoeThe LYM are as clueless about Michael Hudson as I was about all of the early SDSLCers who resigned when they figured out what Lyn was doing and left. You can sometimes use a revolving door for your benefit.


Chator That press conference is a doozy and funnier then a Mariah Carey acceptance speech.


If you go the National Press Club web site you will find this:

1:00 PM
Sponsored by:
PaRouche Political Action Committee

which sort of tells you serious this is all taken and how much Kathy Magraw pays attention to this lunacy over the years.



The WSJ had this mention.


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/0...he-candidates/

Remember Him?: The LaRouche Political Action Committee holds a news conference today at the National Press Club to introduce three of their movement’s 2010 candidates and to discuss their support of Lyndon LaRouche’s call for impeachment proceedings against Obama. The candidates, running on the Democratic ticket, are Rachel Brown, in Massachusetts’s 4th District, Kesha Rogers, in Texas’s 22nd District, and Summer Justice Shields, in California’s 8th District.

Larouche Palooza 2010!





-This was a teaser on the search engine, but for some reason this was removed.

Politics Forum .org - View topic - How many Jewish people were ...
The speech presented on that website is by someone linked to Lyndon LaRouche, a famous anti-semite who runs was amounts to a modernised Nazi ...

http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/v...=63&p=13292394





-Anyone with kids remember the game "Where is Waldo?" We can have a cult version called "Where is Pat Noble"? Pat, a late 50 year old with a35 years of card table shrining and indicted thief has been in NYC, NJ, Philly, Chicago, Long Island, Ct numerous airport card table shrines and is now appearing in tony Marco Island in Florida. That part of the State has more conservative retirees with money which explains the 1,500 mile trip.



http://www.marconews.com/news/2010/j...er=yahoo_feeds



http://www.marconews.com/photos/2010/jan/13/143131/

Not often the springboard for political protest on national issues, Marco Island received a taste Wednesday as members of the Virginia-based LaRouche political action committee lobbied for financial reorganization that would mainly "get the US to cooperate with other nations, especially Russia, China and India to create a new monetary system," according to representative Pat Noble, who was assisted by Ryan Milton. The group also debunks global warming as a myth, and wants to see President Obama impeached. Other goals are to "break up big banks," and to continue to oppose the president's "Nazi" healthcare bill.





Update 2:30 p.m.

Marco's Chief of Code Enforcement Eric Wardle arrived on-scene of the U.S. Post Office on Elkcam Circle where activists have a booth and signs set up reading "Impeach Obama" at about 2:30 p.m. Wardle advised the demonstrators that they must carry their signs, they may not post them in the right of way, and that they also may not set up the booth.

One of the demonstrators requested to view the ordinance, but they have not ceased the set up.

-Speaking of 35 or so year members of the cult with no where to go, we find Craig Holtzclaw still in Texas, still "building a movment" and still making money for Lyn so Lyn can outlive him. What is also funny is how Craig talks about the "New World Order" for the local audience. Poor Craig has not caught on that he used to talk about Jimmy Carter and the CFR/Trilats to the same demographic for years at card table shrines decades ago. Lyn figures that Craig is low expense and with Jim Jambor they can end up being worth a million or so dollars in value for 5 bucks a day. Craig , for all of the math education done with Bruce Director has not yet mastered basic math to add it all up as he gets older and older in the cult.

Craig and Jim Jambor also are hilarious talking about "unpayable debt" and bankruptcy when they were in when we issued 30 or so million on promisorry note debt and never paid that back. Craig will be working a card table shrine to his senior years while I may play cards at a card table with Gov bonds financing part of my retirement. That sure is a surreal thought.



http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/20...est011410a.txt

Post office protesters cause outrage at tactics



LaRouche Political Action Committee Organizer Craig Holtzclaw hands out fliers to passing pedestrians as he protests the Obama presidency Wednesday outside the Post Office in Conroe.

By Brad Meyer
Updated: 01.13.10
Conservative protesters achieved their goal of attracting attention to their cause in Conroe Wednesday but drew criticism for their tactic of depicting President Obama as Hitler.

Members of the LaRouche Political Action Committee in Houston staged a demonstration at the main branch of the Conroe Post Office Wednesday afternoon. They handed out literature, encouraged residents to join the organization and carried signs and placards saying the Obama administration was killing seniors and wrecking the national economy.

“We’re here to let people know they have a choice between a Hitler or a Roosevelt,” said LaRouche organizer Craig Holtzclaw, referring to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. “We are advocating for a peaceful repudiation of his policies that are bankrupting this country.”

Supporters of Lyndon LaRouche, an economist, political activist and perennial presidential candidate, have actively promoted a conservative agenda that many traditional Republicans and Democrats find extreme.

“I’m no supporter of Obama, but I think what they’re doing at the post office is shameful,” Conroe resident Gene Wolf said. “Making him look like Hitler is a disgrace and embarrassing to the country.”

It’s a comment Holtzclaw has heard before. But he says the tactic is within the bounds of free speech and an important strategy to attract public attention to a cause he says is vital to the interests of every American citizen.

“Obama has become a puppet of the New World Order – handing out bailouts and creating speculative and un-repayable debt,” he said. “We need to come together and let him know he needs to change his priorities immediately.”

Instead of bailing out banks and insurance companies, Holtzclaw says Obama should show leadership by investing in rail systems, nuclear power and water projects – addressing national economic infrastructure like Roosevelt did.

Like many postal customers exposed to the LaRouche demonstrators, Wolf doesn’t disagree with some of the goals expressed by the protesters but was distraught by what he saw as disrespect for President Obama.

“I have issues with the president’s policy,” Wolf said. “But as the president of the United States, he should be accorded respect. Depicting him as Hitler isn’t right.”

Holtzclaw counters that, as Americans, they are using their constitutional rights of free speech and lawful, peaceful assembly.

“We believe it’s important that people are tired of the same, old politics,” he said. “We’re promoting a peaceful regime of change – we’re just going about it a little differently.”

-In a forum discussion on third parties, we find this funny post.

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.o...p/t113701.html

In Maryland? I think it might be easier to start up my own political party if that were the case. Mean, most likely not.........................................

I guess I'll do the research. Haven't found any as of yet. I am not about to go for anything by Larouche though. Although from the relative silence from that camp, I wonder if the guy is dead.

-This is a first. We find Lyn mentioned on the UFC fight forum. Not in a way which is good for the cult though. UFC has sold 10% of the business to the sons ofm the late Sheikh .Zayed Al-Nahyan.

http://forums.ufc.production.sparkar...t=18315&page=3

Good post but entirely misses my OP.

The Zayed center is alive and well and has the govt of the UAE as a minority share holder.
This is the SAME company that, as part of a larger holding company, was very close in getting the contract to provide security for the U.S ports under Bush!

Yes, Josh, you're right...the sons are avid wrestling fans...but this company DIRECTLY PROVIDES FINANCES AND MATERIAL SUPPORT for the people we are fighting in Afganistan and Al Queda. Dont believe me? look up Zayed center and war on terror.

Check this out:

"In August 2002, the Los Angeles Times quoted Mohammed Murar, the executive director of the Zayed Center, saying about Jews that "the truth is they are the enemies of all nations." His comment came on the heels of a Zayed Center report stating that "the Zionists are the people who killed the Jews in Europe."

The Zayed Center has a history of giving Holocaust deniers like David Irving a forum to promulgate their ideas. In 1998, Sheik Zayed's wife donated $50,000 to finance the defense of infamous Holocaust denier Roger Garaudy in a French court.

In April 2002, the Zayed Center hosted Thierry Meyssan, the French author of "The Appalling Fraud," which claims that the U.S. military staged the 9/11 attacks. The center translated Mr. Meyssan's book into Arabic, hailed its publication and widely advertised the work. A month later, Lyndon LaRouche, the fringe political figure who has made disparaging remarks about Judaism, was an honored guest. Just last month, the center hosted Umayma Jalahma, a professor of Islamic Studies at King Faisal University, who declared: "The Jewish people must obtain human blood so that their clerics can prepare for holiday pastries."

I simply find it appalling that Zuffa LLC and Dana would sell their souls to lay down with trash like this. Afterall, Its not like they are hurting for bucks!

This is exactly what pure greed looks like! Grab as much as you can, from wherever you can...Just like all the US and european companies did with germany during WW2.

-The cult needs an enemy to get members rolling and hwat better enemy then the Queen of England as we see here in Canada.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2434681

The room was not packed with Liberals by any stretch of the imagination; response from the students was polite but not overly enthusiastic. (One young man could be seen nodding off in the back row.) It takes a certain amount of guts on Mr. Ignatieff's part to field unscreened questions from a crowd of "the unconverted," as he calls them.

One pitfall of such an approach became apparent midway through the Universite de Montreal session, when a man prefaced his question by claiming that Queen Elizabeth wanted the "British Empire" to impose its will on the rest of the world with an eye to reducing the world's population. It turned out he was a follower of American conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche; in fact of the dozen questions fielded by Mr. Ignatieff yesterday morning, two came from members of the LaRouchite Committee for the Republic of Canada.

-I could not find any coverage of the actual opress confernce in DC, but I did find a great Jabroni blog entry about it. You have to read this to really see how important this is for Harley to lead the LYM to World Power via these elections .



http://digtheboogie.blogspot.com/201...la-rouche.html

Three cheers for the laRouche Youth Movement, and the brave commentators on "Off the Cuff" and to Jeff Steinberg and John Hoefle, and of course to Mr and Mrs laRouche.
Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray!
In the name of Jesus, Lord, I pray that you will annoint these candidates and the rest of the laRouche team, to bless them, and keep them safe. I pray that you would place a hedge of protection round and about them, leading only to you and your will Lord God, I pray that you will accord them with power and favor, wherever they go, and that your angels will be there to watch over them, and to assist them whenever necessary. I pray that the Holy Ghost would overshadow them, and lead and guide them into all truth.
Above all Lord Jesus, I pray that you would provide supporters for them, and that their Slate, their platform, to be successful in everyway, and that you would protect them from evil, that you would bless them indeed, that you would enlarge their territory, that your arm would move mightily in their lives, that you will keep them from evil, so that they would not be grieved.
Thank you in advance for meeting all their needs in accordance with your riches and glory in Christ Jesus, I know you are able to do exceeding abundantly and above anything I could ask or think to ask, so I declare that they have the Victory in your Name I pray, Amen and Amen.
Okay everybody, log onto larouchpac.com every day and keep up with the news that way so your are able to judge what is really happening correctly. It is imperative that the laRouche PAC is heard and that their ideas are brought to fruition because the world will be safe and mankind will beable to take a big step forward, into the Noisphere, of course!!!!!!
Where else??
God Bless everyone tonight.
Sweet dreams.
Adios, and Boom Shaka Laka goes right there, courtesy of Dr. James David Manning no less.

-The support for Lyn is incredible when you read this.

http://georgeshollenberger.blogspot....stence-of.html

Over the last twenty-five years, I have conducted research on God and the universe. When doing this research, I found a common thread of thought in a number of personalities. These personalities are Abraham, Moses, Plato, Jesus, Nicholas of Cusa, Kepler, Galileo, Leibniz, Kant, Hegel, Cantor, US founders, and LaRouche. All of these personalities held similar thoughts

That sure was an earth shattering press conference based on the Jabroni coverage we see. I wonder how many LYMsters went hungry that day to pay for the room?

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