LaRouche Continued 5

[yamabkad]

The latest thread in the fabric. The first post in the thread. May the discussion/demystification continue.

[sancho]

Actually, at scrimscraw's suggestion I just started a thread confined to the idea of trying to salvage something of value from the Lyn Marcus days entitled "What is to Be Done?" But perhaps we can continue the general cult discussion in yamabkad's new thread.

[scrimscraw]

I agree that the general discussion might as well be continued here. The #4 thread is up over 425 posts, which is generally a good time to start a new one.

[xlcr4life]

We started new threads in the older set up because it would take so long for the posts to load up. We can keep this one going for awhile and see if if there are any difficulties in loading.

I would like to see factnet.org place the old place the old threads back up in a "locked" view only and easy to find. This stuff is very valuable to many people, especially current LC/LYM .

Before the change we had someone named zisepsyche posting about his/her experienece in the LYM.

If zisepsyche made it to this thread, I have some questions.

-How were you paid, check or cash?

-Did you pay your bills like rent and utilities or did the local office pay them?

-did you receive a 1099 from your local office?

-did you fill out any IRS forms for exemptions when you officialy joined?

-Did you or anyone else have health insurance from the LYM or local office?

You can PM me if you prefer.

I am going to be posting some info about something called LaroucheCare. After all, the world's greatest economist, historian, scientist should also have a world class health plan for his fine staff of very valuable employees, right? Since the education the yutes are getting from Larouche U is worth quite a small fortune, I would guess that their health care plan would too.

Here is a daily example of what the cult finds so upsetting about the web. On any given day that someone runs into the cult, a person consults friends and others to find out about the cult.

This did not happen in my day which is why we could fool more people, including myself.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

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From: "Nicola Tan" <nicola....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:57:11 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 6 2008 12:57 am
Subject: random election question

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Who was that guy who used to have people campaigning outside 77 Mass
Ave, I guess he's run for president a bunch of times, but I had never
heard of him before?


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From: "Nick Saenz" <nsa...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:29:37 +0300
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Are you thinking of Lyndon LaRouche? He's actually a fascist cult leader...

http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/

And they seemed like such nice people...

[scrimscraw]

Help me out here. I'm just trying to make sense of the latest emissions from the Only Competent One...

Quoting from the just posted "Mitt Romney Walks Out" (accompanied by a nice big photo of Hitler on the LARpac site's front page, more typical vicarious Nazi porn from LHL):

On such matters I enjoy the authority of being the only visible long-range economic forecaster who has been consistently on the mark since 1968. (Do tell. In fact, how about a single example of this accuracy? Even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then.) My "Triple Curve," first published widely since January 1996, has been the only factually validated long-range forecast over the entire interval since. (Oh, tut tut.) Hence I am greatly feared, and therefore hated by both stubborn fools and crafty evil-doers, such as George Shultz and fascist Felix Rohatyn, to the present date. (Wait a sec. If you were indeed turning out accurate long-range forecasts, why would power players fear and hate you? Instead, one would assume that they would take advantage of these accurate long-range forecasts and make a pile of money.)

The U.S.A. is now plunging into the deepest pit it has known since about 1960. (Oh, it's always been doing that! Don't you recall all those accurate forecasts of immediate disaster?) There are actions, actions which conform to the stated intent of our Federal Constitution, by means of which we could do as President Franklin Roosevelt did, to rescue our nation and its people from a presently ongoing plunge which has no visible bottom. As this was made clear in the recorded California gathering of Governors Schwarzenegger and Rendel, Mayor Bloomberg, and the Rockefeller Foundation's Judith Rodin, the policy which they outlined (on recorded camera) was explicitly a fascist "infrastructure" program modeled exactly on the precedents of Mussolini and Hitler, a program which, by its nature, must lead to similar outcomes. However, this time, were the present followers of those fascist intentions to succeed in gaining the U.S. Presidency, they and their British masters would be soon destroyed utterly by the results of their own choice of economic policy. (So, what's the problem? If Bloomberg is elected, he and his (their??) "British masters" will be "destroyed utterly"--in fact, they will self-destruct. Soooo...by your own logic, the most direct route to the self-destruction of the British cabal is to let Bloomberg take power. Hmm?)

The word to the wise citizen has thus been given to you. The rest, you should be capable of thinking through, yourself. (Yes, but it makes my brain hurt.)

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by scrimscraw

Help me out here. I'm just trying to make sense of the latest emissions from the Only Competent One...

Here is how you decipher all of this. Lyn has a basic cheap parlor trick for yutes which started in the 1960s and is based on a simple method as you will see. The trick stays the same, but the props change as time and the audience change.

In the 1960s to mid 1970s when the LC was recruiting yutes who wanted a socialist revolution, Lyn used this cheap parlor trick.

S/C+V and S'/C+V

What happend is that Lyn CORRECTED the errors of Marxists as he was the only intellectual giant who could do this. In this era, Lyn and the LC were able to make trust funds revolt from the yutes.

In the later part of the 1970s, Marx was dead and Lyn now became an expert on "American System" economics and added "Hamiltonian" to any word to show yutes back then how he was the expert who corrected the errors of founding fathers and would bring them back. In this economic model you have more income made at card table shrines by clean looking LC members than a bearded SDS LCer in a T shirt. We had a picture of Don Buck holding some of our 10 cent New Solidarities chasing a professor in many of our "Strategy for Socialism" articles. A T shirt does not cut it at an airport or post office in suburbia.

As we entered the 1980s and Reagan was the president, we now had fundraising lists of people with more money and we needed to sell them something. Lyn took some work by Uwe Henke who knew something about Riemann and created a real great illusion for the LC called the "Larouche-Riemann" economic model. This was a masterpiece cheap parlor trick by Lyn as we were now selling $250 dollar Quarterly Economic reports to people. The trick was that if you bought one, you probably got one that was a few quarters old as we were jerking around the money for publications and sent these things out haphazardly. To the LC this was a sort of litmus test of suspension of belief because no matter what quarter you picked up, the finale was always the same of impending doom and crash which only Lyn could direct the elites in saving humanity. For members the real fun was to ask someone to actually explain the Larouche/Riemann model and what you usualy got was a zombie look from them. The whole point of this was to attack any economists as incompetent with Lyn being the greatest economist in the world.

Dave G tried to make sense of this lunacy until he left. He and Lyn wrote a book about Milton Friedman that we sold. That is another hilaroius story as that book was part of a book club we set up and used promisorry notes to finance. You can see ads for the book club on some of the publications back then. Dave G left and he is a big investment banker now. The book we wrote had nothing mentioned about Freidman that you could analyze and was just another Britsh invasion book by lyn. Whennth ebook came out I spotted a copy of Feeidman's book "Free to choose" at a bookstore and after reading a few pages I wondered WTF were we talking about.

People who tried to use the model to do something found that when you inputted data, what you got was gibberish instead of a highly polished prognostication. Once I asked Uwe Henke that if he is this smart in math, couldn't he make some money in investing. He gave me a sneer, but years later, he ended up being an investment banker, just like Dave G.

The Marxist Lyn used the tricks to seperate trust funds from radical yutes. The American System Lyn used the tricks to seperate trust funds from conservative widows.

The late 1980s and early 1990s saw Lyn learn abut the economics of prison life and the focus on the LC work was using Rev Bevel and the methods of the Moonies to resurrect Lyn from prison. The 30 million we hijacked was quickly forgotten and the order of the day was full page ads and numerous commissions to prove that lyn was innocent.

I do not think a one slime dime was used to repay our victims. Please correct me Barbara with the facts and figures if I am wrong. The forum is open for you and Nancy.

When Bill Clinton ran in 1992 lyn got a new idea and changed the trick again for the newer generaton of early yutes. Taking the slogan "It's the economy stupid", lyn had a phrase for the yutes called "The physical economy". This was hillarious to see as I began to read early web blogs by people who would report a wild eyed yute running up to them and warning about the physical economy. The person usually would ask them to look around 360 degrees and report what was not there becuae of the lack of the physical economy. This worked on yutes because everything lyn does to a yute is based on telling them bad stories at night time to give them nightmares. You are in a class, half dazed until late into the night listening to someone who has no idea of a job or a business and 10 cents in his pocket telling a yute with 5 cents in his pocket about jobs and exports. We have yutes who have no idea that many parts of a big project are built in many palces and final assembly is just that. The engineering, design and countless other tasks which are not part of a "physical economy" generate jobs and revenue.

Lyn always had a crisis at hand to use on a yute from the dollar crisis in the 1970s, 80s, 90s and 2000, inflation, oil crisis, S/L problems, Asian stock markets, tech stocks, and now sub prime loans. Every crisis has some connection to some elaborate conspiracy which of course he is the only one who knows about and you are the only one who can stop it. This never ends and in between you throw in nuclear war and mass deaths and you pretty much have a yute scared to death at the real world.

Form the physical economy came the "triple curve" which also is kaput when real numbers begin to be used. In the real world, spending and investments are fluid. Yu can raise the price of oil and you reach a point where so many other means of energy production and invention now become viable and investments increase at a massive clip into those fields. The only thing Lyn can predict long term is that you will be at a card table shrine for many decades and we have shown you pictures of members who joined in the 1970s when we were Marxists who are still there today!

The next trick Lyn is playing now is "Two Tiered Credit" and he links himself to China to infer that the Chinese agree with him. Lyn and yutes will yap about two tiered credit for infrastructure. For a yute with no real life experience there is no knowledge that we have a multi tiered system of credit allready in existence. We have tax free municipal bonds, bonding agencies, gas taxes, IPOs, consumer credit, mortgage credit, short and long term lines of credit, stocks, preferred stocks, corporate bonds, debt swaps for equity and other ways of generating capital.

All of lyn's tricks are to scare a yute so that they do not run away from their new 8 yute to a room home.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[wassel]

Rule by one man is rule by one man, no matter how you cut it. And the overwhelming experience of the human race is that it doesn't work. The Larouche experience is simply one more piece of corroborating evidence in the matter. But it is not Lyn alone who was/is responsible for the LC's troubles in this regard. But to me the real question is, 'do we get a second chance?'

[gladtobexlc]

Originally Posted by wassel

But to me the real question is, 'do we get a second chance?'

I'm not sure what you're asking here. Do you mean, does the LC get a second chance?

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by gladtobexlc

I'm not sure what you're asking here. Do you mean, does the LC get a second chance?

A second chance for the LC is called parole. Lyn went right back to what he has spent his life doing which is leaching off of others using a basic collection of cheap parlor tricks over and over like all good bunko artists do.

The LC sure did not give the hundreds of elderly supporters a second chance to get their money back and live in peace after we got through with them. Jeremiah Duggan never got a second chance to go back to school and live another 75 years.

Here is a blog which shows how the yutes are right on the trail of the Bolomberg conspirqacy, in behalf of the Ango/Dutch, to make Obama popular and then shut him down so George Schultz and Felix Roahatyn can defeat Lyn and install a New Dark Ages for humanity.

http://www.crosscut.com/blog/mossbac...in+a+nutshell/

Lyndon LaRouche in a nutshell
By Knute Berger

Barack Obama isn't the only anti-war politician who thinks we're at a pivotal point in history and is inspiring young people to rally to his cause. There's Lyndon LaRouche. Outside the Obama rally at Seattle Center last week, the LaRoushies were handing out brochures of their leader's prose, as they do at various locations around town including my friendly neighborhood market. I've been amazed at how many young people have signed on to his cause, but try as I might, I've been unable to grasp what LaRouche wants to accomplish. Which probably makes me, in LaRouche's terminology (perhaps echoing the Bill Gates of old), an "idiot."

Spend some time trying to work your way through a piece — even a paragraph — of LaRouche literature and you'll find yourself buried in an avalanche of predictions about the looming end times. Civilization, he says, will collapse this year. To make the case, he offers wearying details, historical asides, and an account of the international conspiracies that brought us here.

His rants are peppered with a dizzying array of references to international accords made or sabotaged: the Bretton Woods Agreement, the Maastricht Treaty, the Peace of Paris of 1763 — and don't forget the 1647 Peace of Westphalia! They are also spiced with insults and conspiracy theories. Al Gore is fat and the "exemplification of evil." Dick Cheney's wife, Lynne, really wears the pants in the family and Dick is merely her puppet. She takes her orders from The Fabian Society and is a British spy. Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is "owned" by fascist sympathizers. And the Anglo-Dutch alliance that helped Mussolini to power is seeking to put New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger at the head of a new totalitarian regime. At least, I think so.

LaRouche — like Ross Perot — also likes charts and graphs, including one he called "The Triple Curve." The gist of them is that we're issuing too much money, productivity is declining, and the whole world is about to enter bankruptcy court. Only an agreement on a new financial system between the U.S., Russia, India, and China can help avert complete disaster. Unfortunately, America's youth isn't rushing to the rescue because they are being trained to kill by our corporate masters via computer games or being brainwashed on social networking Web sites. The perennial presidential candidate is not running this year, but he is leading a "movement." Just don't expect any MySpace meet-ups.

Though time is short and the situation dire, LaRouche cannot bring himself to explain what's happening in simple terms. Civilization will likely collapse long before Larouche has finished expounding on the nature of the crisis. You can blame Barack Obama for being short on specifics, but not Lyndon LaRouche.

You know yutes, it was a lot easier to be just against the Rockefellers in the 1970s then to have to peddle this lunacy over and over. Back then, there were more of us and no coverage except a few teeny articles. Today, there are very few of you and a whole world wide distribution of Lyn's delusions for the masses to read and view. Have you figured out the correlations yet?

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[eaglebeak]

Here's a hilarious few excerpts from the briefing of January 8--merely a month ago, and look how everything Lyn predicted--oops, make that forecast--has come true. Or not.

Thus did Lyndon LaRouche characterize [a bipartisan summit in Oklahoma]...

Four days after the Iowa caucuses and on the eve of the New Hampshire primary today, the meeting was clearly organized for one purpose only--to provide Michael Bloomberg and his pending independent candidacy with a national and international platform. Although all of the participants at the summt denied that they were promoting any one candidate, and Bloomberg himself was silent on the subject, their silence itself merely heightened the speculation that Bloomberg would run. And that was the design of the meeting, which Lyn further characterized as a Bloomberg election rally.

This is precisely what Lyn has accurately warned would happen. First, on May 13, 2007, in the response to an interview with Chuck Hagel on CBS's Face the Nation, Lyn warned that the accelerated primary schedule would create rage in the population against the candidates of the two major parties, thus bringing an end to the two-party system and creating conditions of ungovernability in the U.S. ...

And finally, in addressing this past weekend's French cadre school Lyn further warned that Barack Obama is being built up in order to be chopped down as another step in the furtherance of the Bloomberg independent candidacy. This has also now been proven to be absolutely the case.

What a total hoot!

Obviously, Lyn's unprecedented and history-making prescience hinges on the twin facts that Bloomberg is the perfect Fuehrer figure, with his tremendous charisma and spell-binding oratory (poor Obama, trying to go up against all that....), and that an enraged population, furious at Obama for the shortened primary schedule, is preparing to hurl itself into the arms of Bloomberg, sinister in the wings, plotting hyperinflationary explosion coupled with depression collapse.

Or he would be plotting it, if it all hadn't already happened years ago. As Lyn accurately forecast.

And so, congratulations to William Wertz/Lyndon LaRouche/Helga Zepp-LaRouche/and of course KRN, on producing one for the ages. But they couldn't have done it without You Know Who.

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by eaglebeak

This is precisely what Lyn has accurately warned would happen. First, on May 13, 2007, in the response to an interview with Chuck Hagel on CBS's Face the Nation, Lyn warned that the accelerated primary schedule would create rage in the population against the candidates of the two major parties, thus bringing an end to the two-party system and creating conditions of ungovernability in the U.S. ...

When that briefing first came out I just had to show how it is a cheap parlor trick by Lyn for the yutes. In one commatose sentence of creative mentation, Lyn is able to dismiss all of the candidates and place himself as the saviour by denigrating everyone else. Gee, that sure sounds familiar if you have been in the LC/LYM or been following these threads. Lyn can also continue the 24/7 life of endless New Dark Ages nightmare bed time stories to the yutes to keep them going on thje treadmill. No matter who is a candidate does not matter since lyn can predict that each move was a calculated pre ordained move by the oligarchy because of the upcoming crash.

For naive yutes who think singing in front of a building for spare change determines elections, this is all believable. The only prediction a yute can make is that they will be in a new flat after they get thrown out of the old one like clockwork.

The real ungovernable situation is in Leesburg as Lyn holds on the LC/LYM with a death grip worthy of an Edgar Allen Poe story while Jeff tries to Launch "The Jeff Steinberg Report" to salvage what he can from current and former members as Helga wonders who will provide shopping mall money.

Yo yutes, do you have any BAE leaflets and pamphlets around to see how that was supposed to bring the oligarchy down? DId you receive your 1099s yet?

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[shadok]

In June last year I posted something about our possible role into what could have triggered the first Nuclear holocaust:

For those who were born before the Fall of the Berlin wall and were campaigning against the Soviet nuclear Armageddon... just this info I read at the time:
Oleg Gordievsky, a KGB defector, revealed (I quote) that during a November 1983 NATO exercise, to enable the Western alliance to practice its nuclear release procedures, the Soviets responded to the manuever by going into an "ill-founded panic," since they believed that "belligerent imperialist circles in the U.S.A. are getting ready for war, and are preparing new weapons systems which could render a sudden attack feasible." (ie the march '83 Reagan's "Strategic Defense Initiative", SDI aka "Star wars") As a result of this "panic," Gordievsky claims, on or about Nov. 8-9 (1983), the world "really passed through a war danger."
I cannot help not to think that these "belligerent imperialist circles in the U.S.A." associated to the SDI, were also connected to ours. We were all over the place at the time, officially invited to speak about the Reagan/Larouche's SDI.
But in August that year, irresponsible larouche wrote an Open letter to Soviet leader Yuri Andropov: "YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO PLUNGE THE WORLD INTO WAR", because of his rejection of Reagan's sdi proposal. Then, in November these NATO maneuvers took place and were perceived by the Soviet KGB as a possible cover or preparation for a US military offensive...

Full quote at:
http://forum.laroucheplanet.info/com...5#Comment_2205

NOW IF YOU RE INTERESTED TO KNOW THE REAL FULL STORY, HAVE A LOOK AT:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01170436508560

WE REALLY WERE AT A PRESS OF A BUTTON FROM A NUCLEAR CONFRONTATION THAT WOULD HAVE KILLED MILLIONS....
THIS DOCUMENTARY (1983: The Brink Of Apocalypse) INTERVIEWS REAL ACTORS FROM THAT PERIOD AND IT IS... SCARY. (especially for those of us who were involved in these campaigns)
OUR ANALYSIS ABOUT USSR WAS ALL WRONG. THE RUSSIANS HAD NO INTENTIONS OR MEANS TO START AN OFFENSIVE WAR. THEIR LEADERSHIP WAS OLD, ILL AND DYING. OUR WARMONGERING HATEFUL CAMPAIGNS SENT THEM A MESSAGE THAT WE, IN THE WEST, WERE LOOKING FOR A PRETEXT TO START SUCH A NUCLEAR WAR.
RUSSIANS ALWAYS REMEMBER OPERATION BARBAROSSA...
THANK GOD, ONE RUSSIAN MILITARY OFFICER DIDN'T PRESS THE BUTTON!
NO JOKE!!!!

[wassel]

is there a text version of this? i tried watching the boob stuff but doing tv is simply more self-degradation than i can take.

[borisbad]

I listen to a radio analyst called Dave Emory who has all sorts of interesting programs on the continued existence of fascism and Nazism post war, the connections to organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, various banking arms out of Switzerland, etc. Some of it sounds like EIR but alot of it is well documented and he is not trying to build a "movement" but rather educate people. In any event, his guest yesterday was an author of a compendium of the Kennedy (JFK) assassination and a lot of it had to do with things that came out during the Garrison hearings in New Orleans. Seems that Lee Harvey Oswald, the so-called defector and commie shared an office in NO with a notorious right-wing anti-communist, former FBI agent. Seems he also had some interesting right wingers, such as George Lincoln Rockwell, in his address book. This was written up by writer, Paris Flammonde in Kennedy Conspiracy and Assassination of America. Anyway, I'm listening to the guest talk about Oswald's right wing connections when the guy starts talking about how names like GLR turned up in Oswald's possession with his address and then he mentions LaRouche's old friend, Roy Frankhouser who was also hooked up to the American Nazi Party through his role with the KKK. Funny how LaRouche never mentioned that when he talks about the Kennedy Assassination.

[borisbad]

Looking up Frankhouser I came across this interesting tidbit in the NY Times from 1987 about how Frankhouser deceived LaRouche stating he was monitoring right wing groups while he was actually at some convention.
NY Times 12/10/87
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A961948260
LEAD: A neo-Nazi hired for security by Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr., the political extremist who frequently runs for President, bilked and ridiculed Mr. LaRouche and his associates, according to testimony and statements in the man's trial for conspiracy to obstruct justice.

A neo-Nazi hired for security by Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr., the political extremist who frequently runs for President, bilked and ridiculed Mr. LaRouche and his associates, according to testimony and statements in the man's trial for conspiracy to obstruct justice.

The man, Roy E. Frankhouser Jr., was sent by Mr. LaRouche to Boston in November 1984 to check on the progress of a Federal investigation into possible credit card fraud by LaRouche campaign workers. But Mr. Frankhouser, a Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, and two other members of a ''security'' team apparently went instead to a convention of fans of the television series ''Star Trek,'' being held in Scranton, Pa.

Mr. Frankhouser's conduct that weekend has no direct bearing on the charges against him but offers new insights into operation of the LaRouche organization. Mr. LaRouche, five aides and five related organizations are scheduled to go on trial here Monday before Judge Robert E. Keeton, who is also hearing the Frankhouser case.

According to testimony and other evidence in the trial, on Nov. 10, 1984, Mr. Frankhouser called the LaRouche headquarters in Leesburg, Va., from Scranton and claimed to be in Boston. According to the notes of a LaRouche aide that were later seized by the Government, Mr. Frankhouser reported from Scranton that there were ''Feds all over'' in Boston, and wiretaps on the phones of LaRouche workers. Jury Begins Deliberations

The testimony and notes were reviewed today in the closing arguments of the prosecution and the defense. Mr. Frankhouser, 48 years old, was charged in October 1986 along with 10 associates of Mr. LaRouche, when members of the LaRouche organization allegedly burned crucial papers and spirited potential witnesses out of the country to block a Federal grand jury's investigation into charges of credit card fraud.

The LaRouche workers are said to have made unauthorized charges of hundreds or thousands of dollars to the credit cards of contributors, or simply persons who had used their credit cards to buy LaRouche-affiliated publications.

Mr. LaRouche himself was added to the case in June 1987 and charged with obstruction of justice, but the case of Mr. Frankhouser was severed. A jury of seven women and five men deliberated for about an hour this afternoon and will resume Thursday.

The prosecutor, John J. E. Markham 2d, an assistant United States attorney, quoted in his closing arguments from the notes of a LaRouche aide containing advice from Mr. Frankhouser that ''your people in Boston should be unavailable - not there.'' 'A Little Ruse Going'

The prosecutor also cited frequent references in the notes of LaRouche aides that Mr. Frankhouser's advice on certain records was ''451-F,'' a reference to the temperature on the Fahrenheit scale at which paper burns. According to the notes, the purpose of destroying or moving records was to prevent the investigators from linking Mr. LaRouche to a crime.

But Mr. Frankhouser's lawyer, Owen Walker, said his client had found the LaRouche workers gullible and had decided to take advantage of them.

''Mr. Frankhouser had a little ruse going,'' said Mr. Walker, declaring that there had been a conspiracy to obstruct justice but that his client had not been part of it. ''The LaRouchites have had a history of threats, wrongdoing and obstruction of justice for years,'' said Mr. Walker. He cited sections of notebooks seized from the LaRouche headquarters calling for attacks on various individuals.

Mr. Walker maintained that his client had been ''trying to make them behave themselves'' and had counseled repaying some of those whose credit cards had been illegally billed. Allusion to Talking Horse

According to testimony here, Mr. Frankhouser, who was paid $500 a week by the LaRouche organization, at one point invented a ''source'' in the Government who ''leaked'' details of planned investigations. Mr. Frankhouser referred to the source as ''Ed,'' a name he chose as a reference to Mr. Ed, the talking horse.

[borisbad]

NY Times 12/10/87 continued...
Mr. Markham argued that rational people would have been skeptical over the report given by Mr. Frankhouser from the ''Star Trek'' convention, ''but we're not dealing with rational people in that sense. We're dealing with a scared cult, a cult that believes everybody is out to get them.''

''This is a paranoid group of individuals that is scared of everybody, the Queen of England, Henry Kissinger, the Pope,'' he said. Mr. LaRouche has accused Queen Elizabeth II of involvement in drug dealing, and said that Henry Kissinger is a Soviet agent. Earlier in the trial, some of the testimony described a discussion of whether Mr. Kissinger, a former Secretary of State, could be assassinated.

Two lawyers for Mr. LaRouche and one of the other defendants in the trial to begin Monday, Edward Spannaus, sat in the first row in the audience and took notes on the arguments today.

Mr. LaRouche has a long history of radical political activity, ranging from extreme left to extreme right to somewhere that defies that categorization.

According to the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, which tracks extremists, Mr. Frankhouser was a protege of the late George Lincoln Rockwell in the American Nazi Party in the early 1960's and later became the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan for Pennsylvania.

Mr. Frankhouser also figured in the 1965 suicide of Daniel Burros, a Nazi who was Jewish. Mr. Burros shot himself in Mr. Frankhouser's living room, in his home in Reading, Pa., as Mr. Frankhouser, who was in the room, sought to dissuade him.

[eaglebeak]

From the NEC/LYM meeting on Tuesday evening, Jan. 29, 2008:

I don't want to bore you into a stupor by quoting long sections of this report in the January 30 "briefing," so I'll make it truly brief:


Lyn reiterated that Obama is merely in there to be the spoiler against Hillary--not to be the actual nominee. If they get a deadlocked convention, don't be surprised to see the Democrats march in Bloomberg to be the nominee. And then we'd have Lenora Fulani as his Condi Rice. The architects of the Bloomberg option seem to have gotten stuck on Charlie Chaplin's version of Mussolini, from the Great Dictator.

Actually, kids, be more than surprised. Michael Bloomberg left the Democratic Party to become a Republican to run for Mayor of New York in the wake of Republican Rudy Giuliani. (He has since left the GOP to become an independent.) So I, for one, would be quite surprised to see the Democratic Party anoint as its nominee someone who is not a Democrat, for whom no Democrat has voted in the primaries, and for whom the polls are not tolling, as it were.

Even though Lyn has recently informed us that Bloomberg's moving "like a juggernaut."

The funny thing about Lyn--or rather, one funny thing about Lyn--is that he has absolutely no conception of American politics, the American system of government, or how any of this works. That's the only way to explain how he managed to waste 40 years of everyone's time, untold millions of dollars (as XLCR points out), and a number of lives--and get absolutely nowhere politically in this country.

It must've been hard to do, but by golly, he did it!

And did you like the part about Lenora Fulani becoming Bloomberg's Condi Rice? Who said LaRouche is not a racist misogynist? He's noticed two things about Condoleezza Rice (not "Condi" to you, Mr. L)--she's black and she's female. Whoa! So's Lenora Fulani. So, QED.

What a prince! Don't believe him, kids, if he ever talks to you about individual sovereignty. Not only can't he spell sovereignty, he can't understand it. He can't differentiate between Rice and Fulani. All interchangeable to him.

In any case, LaRouche's forecast of a Bloombergini future for us (or is it the Archduke Bloomberg, five feet tall with his spitzhalm?) is about as convincing as his other nostrums, past, present, and to come.

Which reminds me--I've been meaning to mention it--have you noticed the Triple Curve has no numbers on it? Hmm. Whaddya think that means?

[borisbad]

My image of LaRouche in his role as world's leading economist, world's leading strategist, world's leading music critic, etc. is of a guy who sits in front of a TV set or reads a paper and happens on some public figure speaking, like Chuck Hagel on Meet the Nation and gets a tick to respond. A normal person would perhaps write a letter to the editor or perhaps dash off a note to Congress. But not LaRouche, he thinks the world is waiting for his response so that he must make his world historic pronouncement on the subject, so ouila, he writes about how Bloomberg is going to be appointed a bonapartist leader of the US. Funny how he can't simply understand that Hillary Clinton is unravelling of her own accord and there doesn't have to be any orchestrated conspriacy to cause her campaign to falter. Wonder if the LYM is going to go all out and mobilize for Hillary in Texas and Pennsyvlania to "save the republic."

[xlcr4life]

When ever I see Grandpa Simpson start off going crazy about some topic, like the sun shining, I think of Lyn . Rambling stories which don't go anywhere. Endless confusion with time periods mixed up.

Just read these Grandpa SImpson quotes and see if they differ from Lyn.


Mr. burns: so do you have a way to get rid of the protesters?


""We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I took the fairy to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because if the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones."

"I'll join! I'm filled with p*ss and vinegar. At first I was just filled with vinegar."

"Ah , there's an interesting story behind this nickle. In 1957 I remember it was, I got up in the moring and made myself a peice of toast. I set the toaster to three, medium brown."

"I leave these: a box of mint-condition 1918 liberty-head silver dollars. You see, back in those days, rich men would ride around in Zeppelins, dropping coins on people, and one day I seen J. D. Rockefeller flying by. So I run of the house with a big washtub and, where are you going?"

Lisa: "You're a member of the Stonecutters Grampa?"

Grampa: "Oh, sure. Let's see, I'm an elk, a Mason, a communist. I'm the president of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance for some reason. Ah, here it is. The Stonecutters

Bart: "So how do you know so much about American history?"

Grampa: "I pieced it together, mostly from sugar packets."

Lisa: "Oh, Grampa! You're not busy, are you?"

Grampa: "Well, you're really asking two questions there. The first one takes me back to 1934. Admiral Byrd had just reached the pole, only hours ahead of the Three Stooges ... and I guess he won the argument, but I walked away with the turnips. The following morning, I resigned my commission in the Coast Guard. The next thing I heard, there was civil war in Spain ... and, that's everything that happened in my life right up to the time I got this phone call."


This sounds like Lyn on a web cast with the Q/A with the LYM.



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[scrimscraw]

LOL!!!

I'll post something more substantial soon, but my DSL keeps dropping every 10 minutes, so until that's fixed, mum's the word.