LaRouche continued 6

[eaglebeak]

Originally Posted by poe

Thanks to you, yes it is the forum for that. In your original post you implied that Lyn speaking at the Zayed Center proves that he is an anti-semite. So, I am asking, does Al Gore speaking at the Zayed Center prove that he is an anti-semite too? Did Joe Lieberman run for Vice President on an anti-semitic ticket?

Lyn's anti-Semitic "credentials," if we can call them that, are far broader, deeper, and wider than showing up at the Zayed Center.

It's not so much where he speaks, as what he speaks.

As to the Zayed Center, the State Department's International Religious Freedom Report 2004 says the following:

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35510.htm

In August 2003, the Government closed the Zayed Center for Coordination and Follow-up, an Abu Dhabi-based think tank affiliated with the Arab League and created in 1997, that published and distributed literature, sponsored lectures, and operated a website. Over the past few years, the center published some books with anti-Semitic themes such as "The Zionist Movement and its Animosity to Jews" and "Al Buraq Wall, Not Wailing Wall." It also allowed some anti-Semitic language on its website and hosted some speakers who promoted anti-Semitic views. One such event was a symposium on "Semitism" in the summer of 2002, during which remarks attributed to center employees and speakers denied the Holocaust. According to a statement from President Zayed's office, the Government closed the center because its activities "starkly contradicted the principles of interfaith tolerance" advocated by the president.

Section IV. U.S. Government Policy

The U.S. Government discusses religious freedom issues with the Government as part of its overall policy to promote human rights.

Embassy officials in Abu Dhabi and Consulate General officials in Dubai have discussed religious tolerance and freedom with government officials on a number of occasions, and have encouraged the Government to increase religious freedom by permitting the opening or expansion of religious facilities for the large expatriate population. Embassy officials expressed concern to the Government about statements and publications expressing religious intolerance on the website of Zayed Center for Coordination and Follow-up prior to its August 2003 closure....


So, perhaps one need not conclude that LaRouche is an anti-Semite because he spoke at the Zayed Center--perhaps one could conclude that the Zayed Center is anti-Semitic because he spoke there.

Around Town

"Former Associates"? What LaRouche doesn't realize is that most of his current associates are, in their heart of hearts, former associates.

Otherwise--Was it hard times, or a hostile landlord, that forced the National Center of the International Caucus of Labor Committees to give up another "bay" at Sycolin Road?

You might think it would be getting crowded there, now that they're down to two bays (in their salad days, it was five)--but it's probably not a problem.

Not too many people going to the office these days, what with one thing and another.

Morality, Mortality, Whatever

One striking passage of Lyn's latest effort is the following:

Admittedly, from my own life's experience, I have known many who chose Judas-like apostasy, and who may have also chosen to hang themselves in one fashion or another. Usually, the choice of apostasy had something to do with "money."

What do we have here?

1. Lyn compares himself to God. I mean--apostasy? Really?

2. Lyn compares himself to Jesus Christ. I mean--Judas?

3. Lyn gets in the obligatory reference to suicide--he can't leave the subject alone. You might almost think he had a bad conscience.

4. Finally, with a nod to Jeff Foxworthy, "You're know you're in a cult when"--you can't leave and still be regarded as human.

Oh, and Euclid? Lyn didn't reject Euclid, Euclid rejected him. It's as clear as day, from Lyn's fulminations about various mathematicians over the years, that he just doesn't understand math.

Did you know he wanted to go to MIT? And that, while he was flunking out of Northeastern the second time--or maybe just after that--he was hanging around the MIT campus, trying to get in with Norbert Wiener et al.?

Not only did Euclid reject him, but so did Wiener. And that's why we were all treated to Lyn's rants on Wiener and AI.

[chator]

In his recent October 10, 2009 interview with the Russian magazine, Zavtra, LaRouche stated that his October 2009
forecast was actually just a reiteration of his July 27, 2007 forecast. In other words, he's admitting that his July
27th forecast didn't foretell the Crisis of '08, which he and his associates had earlier stated. It was, in fact,
a prediction of what is happening now and of the coming blowout, which LaRouche believed at the time of the inter-
view, we were just weeks away from. Is this a preview of what the November 11th forecast will be about? More crisis
mongering while the economy continues to get better? It begins about minute eleven into the interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ImbxGwJc4

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by poe

Thanks to you, yes it is the forum for that. In your original post you implied that Lyn speaking at the Zayed Center proves that he is an anti-semite. So, I am asking, does Al Gore speaking at the Zayed Center prove that he is an anti-semite too? Did Joe Lieberman run for Vice President on an anti-semitic ticket?

Lyn has said and done enough to have a NY State court Judge rule that calling him a "Small Time Hitler" is pretty fair. From that Boston aritlce I read I get the impressipon that whatever was the original intent of the ZaYed Centre became an embarassment after weekly parades of many of the speakers MEMRI and the ADL report mention.

Jimmy Carter will always have controversy over himself and Israel when he releases a book. Howevver, as far as I can tell, neither Carter, Baker or Gore have included The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in them in them, played numerology with the Holocaust or blamed 9/11 on Zionists.

To what extent that money from Zayed for speaking influences decisions to go there is worth looking at as far as those three are concerned. If that Center was THE best forum for the Mid East , then that tells me more about the Mid East.

In the mean time, there are plenty of places to find discussion and info about Carter, Gore and Baker while Lyn and the cult is our focus here. This leads me to revisit the org for a cetrain period. My last days in ther LC were around 1986 or so with a tapering off occuring. My exit counselor had now and then sent me lit and briefings after I left , mainly aorund the court cases since this involved people we knew. For the most part, it was not until the death of Jeremiah Duggan that I took a new interest in the cult.

What I find interesting is the period from around 1999 and the birth of the LYM to the death of Jeremiah concerning Lyn and the cult being very vocal about Zionists takeovers. If you all recall, The recent death of an ELCer who worked for a DC thnk tank told us that he and his American wife resigned over the increasing anti semitism in the org. Earnest one recalls a member telling him that he is out there to stop a "Zionist Takeover". Before and aafter 9/11, the had articles about Zionists and/or the Israelis were running or taking over parts of the US political, intell and military.

I also see that there was quite a bit of an intersection between the new Willis Carto groups and the LC along with Helga, Webster and very swarmy Euro Jewish conspiracy figures. The German conf which had Jeremiah Duggan attend was noted by himself for being uncomfortable with the tone against Jews.

It would be interesting to see just what was going on day by day in the LC in how the research and writings were being infuenced to attract a readership in Muslim areas of the Far East and the Mid East. Nothing is written or done by accident. Whatever group we wished to fundraise from would have a pre boiler room send off with articles about them and also being favorable to them.

This sounds more like a pre boiler room pep talk for Mid East lists.

LaRouche first called it a coup d'etat, an "inside job" with the help of the Israeli Mossad, and then blamed his "usual suspects", the Zionists:

“Under no circumstances, LaRouche assesses, could the attacks of Sept. 11 have been organized and directed by Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda apparatus, based out of Afghanistan. […] LaRouche also emphasizes that the recent years' massive Israeli espionage against and covert-operations penetration of the United States—including the U.S national security and military institutions—may suggest a more direct Israeli involvement in the military coup activities that facilitated the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington. […] This apparatus is part of the "Mega" network of prominent wealthy North American Zionists led by Edgar Bronfman, Ronald Lauder, Michael Steinhardt, et al., who are the leading promoters of Ariel Sharon's suicidal war drive, and who wish to draw the United States into that effort to assure a global conflagration on a scale of the First World War or worse.” "Lyndon H. LaRouche Exposes Sept. 11 Coup-Plotters: "Zbigniew Brzezinski and Sept. 11th"", by Jeffrey Steinberg, Press Release, Jan. 2002
Israel/Mossad are behind 9/11 and the drive of the Bush administration to invade Iraq:

"Lyndon LaRouche reports that there is now firm evidence that the ongoing drive to induce President George W. Bush to launch a war against Iraq, is a 1996 Israeli government policy that is being foisted on the President by a nest of Israeli agents inside the U.S. government. This Israeli spy network inside the United States was unable achieve their objective until President Bush was entrapped by the events of Sept. 11, 2001 and the falsified accounts of those events provided by this foreign intelligence apparatus, and lured over to their policies. Lyndon LaRouche demands to know: Is this not the motive that explains the who and why of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001? LaRouche demands an immediate Congressional investigation, to help purge the U.S. government of this foreign intelligence apparatus, which attempted, with the 9/11 events, to seize control over U.S. foreign policy." (source: "The Pollard Affair Never Ended!" (press release), EIR, Sept. 8, 2002 )

Lyn can talk about water in the Mid East till he is blue in the face. His talk about Zionists directing 9/11 is what matters. On the other hand, Lyn is also a usefull fool for disinformation who will pay money instead of making money to be a fool. One day we will have an ex member(s) who will be able to explain a lot of this. For now, give him/her a few years to recover as there is always another story behind the scenes since no one has the whole picture, just a piece.

EagleBeak does this mean that Tony the Tooth Pick Papert is reciting to Nancy in their COSTCO luncheons.

"Two bay or not two bay? That is the question."



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[poe]

Originally Posted by xlcr4life

If you all recall, The recent death of an ELCer who worked for a DC thnk tank told us that he and his American wife resigned over the increasing anti semitism in the org.

What I recall, is that at the time of his resignation, he claimed that the Organization's opposition to the first Gulf War was based on anti-semitism. But then after he left, he lobbied for the United States to do the exact same thing that he wanted America to kill Iraqis for doing. The elder Bush Administration, and the Clinton Administration, murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children in order to defend the royal families of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. To claim that opposing that mass murder was anti-semitic, but to then call for the United States Military to overthrow the House of Saud is racist hypocrisy.

LaRouche is wrong about a lot of things, but he was absolutely right about the Gulf War. Support for that war is much more Hitler-like than opposition to that war is. Especially when you want the United States to do the same thing that Iraq did.

[poe]

Originally Posted by xlcr4life

Earnest one recalls a member telling him that he is out there to stop a "Zionist Takeover".

In the almost two decades that I was a member of the ICLC, I never once heard anyone at a book table or intersection say that they were campaigning to "stop the Zionists from taking over the World", and I highly doubt that anyone else here ever heard that while they were in. I think that Earnest One may be a bit confused.

[howie]

Lyn makes wikipediareview in a roundabout way.

http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=27167

Funny statement. Larouche "makes" "wikipediareview" in less roundabout ways. Wikipedia Review appears part of the "Wikipedia War Room Strategy". Note that the 50 times banned character "Herschelkrustofsky" responded with an answer with the larouche take on things.

Actually, LaRouche doesn't like the original French Encyclopedists from back in the day. I think he frowns on orthodoxy.

Incidentally, I just ran across this. Has it already been discussed around these parts?

Complete with 3,390 posts.

Wikipedia Review is a home for Wikipedia Cast-offs to spout their problems with wikipedia, and thus allows for that "organizational sockpuppet team.” It gets interesting (though not interesting enough for me to delve too deeply), and one of the main administrators tackling the larouche articles in the wikipedia comments section recently alluded to that site, and some bizarre diversionary commenters have sulked into the page declaring themselves as having seen these edits and coming from "Wikipedia Review", meaning "Lyn" recently "made" the "Wikipedia Review" in a less round-about way, and seeing that HK is a chief administrator there, likely makes it pretty frequently.

[eaglebeak]

Originally Posted by poe

In the almost two decades that I was a member of the ICLC, I never once heard anyone at a book table or intersection say that they were campaigning to "stop the Zionists from taking over the World", and I highly doubt that anyone else here ever heard that while they were in. I think that Earnest One may be a bit confused.

Did you ever organize with the Zionism Is Not Judaism Campaigner? Or hear or see anyone organize with it?

So there's that.

On the other hand, perhaps Earnest One is adopting the polemical method here.

If, as LaRouche argues, we can infer from the LaRouche-forecast effects of someone's actions his intent (that's how LaRouche was able to call Gore, Bush, Larry Sommers, Kissinger and of course, Obama, 100 times worse than Hitler), then perhaps we are entitled to infer from LaRouche's writings and pronouncements (a) the effects of those dicta, if they were carried out, and (b) therefrom, his intent.

So I think Earnest One may not be confused at all.

Around Town

Now, about those bays--

For any of you who are puzzled by XLCR's reference to NEC lunches, think Costco with all those little tables of free food--samples, yes?

There are two kinds of NEC members: those who eat at Tuskie's, and those who-- schnorr.

Boomers and Beyond

In late-breaking developments, Lyn has discovered that the virus of Boomerism is ... not confined to the Boomers.

A recent Windy Hill Diatribe features Lyn in full throat, denouncing the LYM members now infected by Boomer flu.

It seems clearer and clearer that, just as Larouchetruth predicted, after Lyn's ultradefinitive prediction (not "forecast") that the world was coming to an end in mid-October, he has a credibility gap right here in LYM City.

Apparently even the phone teams are having trouble with it.

Whatever you do, folks, don't let Lyn get near a Mayan calendar.

[earnest_one]

Earnest One is confused?

Yes, of course!!! This is the same guy who says that he is Peter Tennenbaum, who has a website at www.dynastring.com and another that will soon "explode" at www.cancerdisaster.org.

No doubt Poe has heard extremely clear and lucid statements from LaRouche and LaRouchies. Only Peter Tennenbaum has heard an older LaRouchie say that he was trying to stop the Zionists from taking over the world. I am either the only one in the world or I am confused. This statement I "thought" I heard is beyond the pale, simply too much to believe. LaRouche and crew only say believable things and reasonable things and very, very clear things.

Perhaps Peter Tennenbaum MADE IT UP, perhaps he is NOT confused -- perhaps he is a liar and is putting words into LAR-type "ointments" -- the ones with the precious bodily fluids that LAR-types rub themselves with daily.

How about a fun calculation, just to get a "feel" for what kind of confusion we are dealing with here?

Even at the reduced "force level" of 100 LYMsters, there simply MUST be a substantial promulgation of CLEAR and UNDERSTANDABLE and SANE statements flowing outward to the US population. Let's leave aside "The Motherland" for a moment and concentrate on AMERICA the BEAUTIFUL.

Assume 10 statements per LYMster and/or LaRouchie per hour. Surely they speak once every six minutes. That is 1,000 clear sentences per hour and 8,000 per day, minimum (no overtime is allowed -- funds are tight and 1.5 times your hourly wage would be too much. It might break the banks. With the glorious 6 day work week we have 48,000 non-confused, CLEAR and UNDERSTANDABLE and SANE statements. Two weeks off per year for a great vacation to Disney World and we have approximately 2,500,000 statements per year.

Has Poe heard even 1% of this during his entire life? Surely we can compute 1% -- that would be only 25,000 statements, of which NOT A SINGE ONE IS ANYTHING LIKE what I said I heard during the 2000 -2001 period. Well, perhaps I was "confused" about the date. I left Winstar in May 2002. So perhaps it was in 2002, a date well after 911 when LYN was NEVER talking about the Zionist influence on American politics.

But why should that matter? Poe is clear-headed while Peter Tennenbaum must be confused. He must be. It is an axiom.

I have not talked to my Australian friend in a few months. He was there. Why not set up a bet? I need money to pay for cancer drugs and electronic test equipment and integrated circuits transformers and neodymium, iron, boron magnets and sub-micron powders such as barium, zirconium and titanate doped with ytterbium. I need a lot of money.

If your confidence is high, Poe, why not take that 1% figure (25,000 statements) and divide it by the number of posts that I have put up on FACTNET, the clear record I have left of a weak thinker, a broken down thinker -- a person with a poor memory, a man in a state of confusion. Hedgehoggy took me to the woodshed some months back, he simply could not understand a post of mine, it was so so confusing. The more he tried, the more confused he became. Excuse me, I mean the more SHE tried. Clearly that person is a pussy.

If your confidence is so high, put your money where your mouth is. Take the 25,000 CLEAR STATEMENTS and divide it by about the number of posts I have put up (about 100 or 200). Take the ratio... make it fair, about 100 to one. Now give me those odds. I'll scrape together 5 grand and we can find my Australian friend who was with me in the car that day. I have not talked to him for three or four months. he got married and lives in NYC.

If you give me 100 to one odds (and why not, you write with such confidence, such assurance) then I will bet that the Australian will remember the same basic FACTS as I did. We can work together to set up the bet. I need the money. I'll be he passes a lie detector test too. And while we are at it, let's shoot him up with Sodium PlentyThaw.

Yes, the followers of Lyn cannot understand Peter Tennenbaum. How about going to my site ( www.dynastring.com ) and test to see what the pitch is for the three "regular" piano pieces that are available to anyone with a modern computer and an Internet connection. If your ear is good or your equipment is calibrated, you'll note that I have RAISED the pitch ABOVE A = 440 by the same proportion that LaRouche wanted to lower it BELOW 440 in his attempt to keep the solar system from exploding and opera singer's voices from deteriorating at a vast, rapid pace. I skewed the pitch upwards, even further than the evil Nazi pitch of 440 cycles per second.

Compare my playing to ALL the other LaRouchies who have put out CDs of their OWN piano playing as evidence of their advanced techniques of learning and teaching. Indeed, simply compare it to LYN himself -- isn't he a great musician? Doesn't he have a CD?

And I only had a single keyboard lesson. One lesson in my entire life. No wonder I raised the pitch -- I am uneducated too, and evil. Probably British.

Peter "Confused" Tennenbaum writing quickly on November 9, 2009

[poe]

Wow! What a melt-down.

Originally Posted by earnest_one

Earnest One is confused?

Yes, of course!!! This is the same guy who says that he is Peter Tennenbaum, who has a website at www.dynastring.com and another that will soon "explode" at www.cancerdisaster.org.

No doubt Poe has heard extremely clear and lucid statements from LaRouche and LaRouchies. Only Peter Tennenbaum has heard an older LaRouchie say that he was trying to stop the Zionists from taking over the world. I am either the only one in the world or I am confused. This statement I "thought" I heard is beyond the pale, simply too much to believe. LaRouche and crew only say believable things and reasonable things and very, very clear things.

Perhaps Peter Tennenbaum MADE IT UP, perhaps he is NOT confused -- perhaps he is a liar and is putting words into LAR-type "ointments" -- the ones with the precious bodily fluids that LAR-types rub themselves with daily.

How about a fun calculation, just to get a "feel" for what kind of confusion we are dealing with here?

Even at the reduced "force level" of 100 LYMsters, there simply MUST be a substantial promulgation of CLEAR and UNDERSTANDABLE and SANE statements flowing outward to the US population. Let's leave aside "The Motherland" for a moment and concentrate on AMERICA the BEAUTIFUL.

Assume 10 statements per LYMster and/or LaRouchie per hour. Surely they speak once every six minutes. That is 1,000 clear sentences per hour and 8,000 per day, minimum (no overtime is allowed -- funds are tight and 1.5 times your hourly wage would be too much. It might break the banks. With the glorious 6 day work week we have 48,000 non-confused, CLEAR and UNDERSTANDABLE and SANE statements. Two weeks off per year for a great vacation to Disney World and we have approximately 2,500,000 statements per year.

Has Poe heard even 1% of this during his entire life? Surely we can compute 1% -- that would be only 25,000 statements, of which NOT A SINGE ONE IS ANYTHING LIKE what I said I heard during the 2000 -2001 period. Well, perhaps I was "confused" about the date. I left Winstar in May 2002. So perhaps it was in 2002, a date well after 911 when LYN was NEVER talking about the Zionist influence on American politics.

But why should that matter? Poe is clear-headed while Peter Tennenbaum must be confused. He must be. It is an axiom.

I have not talked to my Australian friend in a few months. He was there. Why not set up a bet? I need money to pay for cancer drugs and electronic test equipment and integrated circuits transformers and neodymium, iron, boron magnets and sub-micron powders such as barium, zirconium and titanate doped with ytterbium. I need a lot of money.

If your confidence is high, Poe, why not take that 1% figure (25,000 statements) and divide it by the number of posts that I have put up on FACTNET, the clear record I have left of a weak thinker, a broken down thinker -- a person with a poor memory, a man in a state of confusion. Hedgehoggy took me to the woodshed some months back, he simply could not understand a post of mine, it was so so confusing. The more he tried, the more confused he became. Excuse me, I mean the more SHE tried. Clearly that person is a pussy.

If your confidence is so high, put your money where your mouth is. Take the 25,000 CLEAR STATEMENTS and divide it by about the number of posts I have put up (about 100 or 200). Take the ratio... make it fair, about 100 to one. Now give me those odds. I'll scrape together 5 grand and we can find my Australian friend who was with me in the car that day. I have not talked to him for three or four months. he got married and lives in NYC.

If you give me 100 to one odds (and why not, you write with such confidence, such assurance) then I will bet that the Australian will remember the same basic FACTS as I did. We can work together to set up the bet. I need the money. I'll be he passes a lie detector test too. And while we are at it, let's shoot him up with Sodium PlentyThaw.

Yes, the followers of Lyn cannot understand Peter Tennenbaum. How about going to my site ( www.dynastring.com ) and test to see what the pitch is for the three "regular" piano pieces that are available to anyone with a modern computer and an Internet connection. If your ear is good or your equipment is calibrated, you'll note that I have RAISED the pitch ABOVE A = 440 by the same proportion that LaRouche wanted to lower it BELOW 440 in his attempt to keep the solar system from exploding and opera singer's voices from deteriorating at a vast, rapid pace. I skewed the pitch upwards, even further than the evil Nazi pitch of 440 cycles per second.

Compare my playing to ALL the other LaRouchies who have put out CDs of their OWN piano playing as evidence of their advanced techniques of learning and teaching. Indeed, simply compare it to LYN himself -- isn't he a great musician? Doesn't he have a CD?

And I only had a single keyboard lesson. One lesson in my entire life. No wonder I raised the pitch -- I am uneducated too, and evil. Probably British.

Peter "Confused" Tennenbaum writing quickly on November 9, 2009

[poe]

Originally Posted by eaglebeak

On the other hand, perhaps Earnest One is adopting the polemical method here.

If, as LaRouche argues, we can infer from the LaRouche-forecast effects of someone's actions his intent (that's how LaRouche was able to call Gore, Bush, Larry Sommers, Kissinger and of course, Obama, 100 times worse than Hitler), then perhaps we are entitled to infer from LaRouche's writings and pronouncements (a) the effects of those dicta, if they were carried out, and (b) therefrom, his intent.

If you are comparing Earnest One's post to Lyn's Obama Mustache poster, then I agree with you.

[earnest_one]

Originally Posted by poe

Wow! What a melt-down.

Yawn... Stock Internet Troll Reply. Calling it "banal" would debase the meaning of banal.

Bottom Line? You FAIL.

At least in the old days creative mentation produced some signs of intelligent life if only via imitation of the old masters. People used to mimic intelligence by reciting words without knowing what they meant. At least it was a start: baby steps, while drooling.

You are probably not an ape, but can anyone distinguish you from a machine?

Please post a link to your CD of Beethoven's #110 and #111 piano sonatas. Show the world that you can "think like 111..."

Peter Tennenbaum November 9, 2009 (having "fun")

[xlcr4life]

Issues for Lyn are mere bait. Nothing is ever followed up and there is a reason to keep events moving non stop where you have no clue when one campaign stops and another begins. If I had the ability, I would love to plot out as best as I could how the directives change when boiling contacts. I would guess that this is like milking cows where there has to be a reason to call people for money every few weeks and have a few wild special occasions as well. Plenty of orgs have their own fundraising plans, but that is not the same as running a cult.

In the case of Lyn, the whole thing is a cult of personality and whether Lyn is "correct" on any issue is a useless job since the preservation of cash flow and the cult are what counts. Lyn had the cult going back and forth on Obama till the call was made to go far right . Even if you do find something which Lyn and the cult have a valid point, how long do you think it will be till it gets "Larouchesized" into a frenzy of a New Dark Age and economic collapse. Hell, we used to joke about this IN the LC when we exited a briefing over a new mobe.

My first clue when I was an idiot recruit was over the Emergeny Economic Recovery Act bill which I honestly thought was a seriuous bill which we had congressmen ready to introduce. AT least that is what the local leaders and New Solidarity were saying at the time. The bill was just a way to make money and when I asked later about what happened to that, the answer was that unless we defeat Rocky, all is lost so the bill is not important.

That is basically how it goes in an endless loop in the LC/LYM. Any LYM or LYMettes calling about the Home Owners Act these days? Not too many Black legislators want to hear about how Obama is a Nazi, yet there are still issues with housing. Do the same thing with drugs, nuclear war, the Iraq war and whatever will work to keep the cult going.

Our ex ELC member Laurent Murawiec was writing while working for a DC think tank. He was not recruiting for a cult. You have every right to disagree with him and plenty of people did. Laurent has a few books in circulation on Islamic Jigad and the Saudis. Bob Dreyfus writes for the left in The Nation. He too has an opinion and views and works as a writer and editor. I would have paid good money to see those two debate each other. Neither is running a cult while Lyn is .

War for Lyn is a recruiting and fundraising moment. So Lyn was against the Iraq war? So were hundreds of millions of people around the globe. I would read why they were opposing the war Zionist takeovers? Pretty much the people I associate with who were against the Iraq War never had stopping a Zionist takeover of the USA and Israel conspiring to run 9/11 to pull the USA into war as part of their agenda.

Anyone here in the LC in the 1980s? Hell, back then we were arguing FOR war against the Soviet Union and a multi trillion dollar military build up and it was the KGB which was running USA policy and we wanted to hunt down all of the traitors who just happened to be Democratic candidates for President against Lyn. We also named just about every right wing think tank as a KGB nest who just happened to be both against Lyn and calling the same elderly conservative lists were were doing.

Lyn also was ready to send the US military and kill every single grower of narcotics as well as declare war on countries who had criminals in the drug trade . At one time we joked in the field that there were not too many countries or people left alive after Lyn declares war on everyone.

How many dictators and regimes did Lyn want to be friends with or was friends with?

I still think that there is something fishy about that era from the late 1990s to the death of Jeremiah Duggan with so many aritcle being written about Zionist and Israel taking over the USA and World. The audience is what is important and I still think that after the death of Lady Di, the cult leaped forward to the Muslim world with their death conspiracy tales. So did a lot of other scam artists whom I read were also taking the Dodi family for a ride.





The Larouche World Wide Takeover Tour 2009!



The tour hit a big snag over the weekend as it seems that a Canadian carpenter named Claude Larouche, also with a police record as Lyn, murdered a corrections employee. This resulted in Lyn being knocked off the search engine score cards and Claude taking his place in the hits race.


-Howie has another great column and I love his sense of humour. Being an outsider to the LC brings a fresh perspective of this theater of the absurd.

http://www.struat.com/election/2009/...-post-offices/

where is the Larouche organization at now? After single handedly organizing a “Mass Strike” through the Summer, (and the bit about Barney Frank got a mention in GQ’s list of the “50 Most Powerful People in Washington.” There is another list of the “50 Most Powerful People in the Larouche Organization” — Rachel Brown did not quite crack it.) under the principles of Rosa Luxemberg, the organization has deemed the Tea Party Movement:

-The real mass movement the cult is inspiring seems to be against the cult as we add one more attack and this "citizen's Mop Up" does need a mop. I do not want to see any one hurt, but damn I love the comments by the writer in summing up the cult.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=44865

Striking Back
UW Neighbors Rain on LaRouchies
by Sarah Mirk



On Friday, July 21, two recent University of Washington grads struck a blow on behalf of Seattle residents: They staged a water-balloon attack on two crews of those ubiquitous, aggressive Lyndon LaRouche campaigners.
Ashley Miller, 22, lives in an apartment above Bulldog News on University Way. Every weekend, volunteers for the LaRouche campaign set up tables along University Way. The LaRouche campaign is known for tying traditional left-wing rhetoric to psychedelic conspiracy theories involving Nazis, Dick Cheney, supertrains, and Satan. On Friday, the LaRouche folks had a table on two corners of the intersection at Northeast 42nd Street and University Way Northeast. "You couldn't even cross the street to get away from them," Miller says.


That evening, she and her friend Kevin Mock, 29, filled six water balloons and lobbed "warning shots" out the apartment window. One balloon hit a volunteer in the chest. Another exploded on a stack of pamphlets. Soon, the police showed up and the self-styled hooligans hightailed it out the apartment's back entrance. After the police left, Miller and Mock returned and hurled six more balloons down at the LaRouchies. The campaigners left soon after that and have not returned since, Miller says.
The attacks were motivated by previous encounters with LaRouche campaigners and a desire to "give back to the community," according to Mock. "When I was a freshman, I made the mistake of giving them my phone number," says Miller. "They called me every other day for six months." Miller has already stockpiled a stash of biodegradable balloons to leave no trace of their next attack.

-Lyn is a mere footnote here where David G gets first billing.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-a...-idealism.html

-Does Zubrin know that the cult is carpetbagging the Mars Society? Check out 'Larry" from Harley's local and how this class of geniuses spells.

LaRouche and Basement Space Plans and Proposels!

http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewto...=8030&start=60

Larouche? He's the guy (I was going to use another three letter word but he's v. rich) who thinks the British Royal family are masterminding the illegal drugs trade.

I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole - even a disinfected one.......................

Larry, LaRouche has nothing to do with the current political battle in the U.S, or anything else for that matter. He never has accomplished anything in his life..................


I don't think associating the argument for space exploration with a man who seriously believes the British Royal family are leading drug dealers in the criminal underworld is a good idea, Larry.................

I second that.

-The cult returns to a Washington Redskin forum.

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?p=6984352

Originally Posted by SnyderShrugged
because larouche is very public with their signage? where have you been? You didnt know this?


http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/publi...63-67_3620.pdf

just google Larouche, healthcare reform and nazi and you will see this undeniable fact.

I suppose the main distinction is that nobody on ES defends LaRouche the way Republicans are defending the teabagging imbeciles and denying what happened in this thread.

Also, LaRouche is a fringe idiot with zero traction or representation in Congress whereas the idiots who called these imbeciles to washington to put on this show of stupidity were Republican Congresspeople



Quote:
Originally Posted by SnyderShrugged
My posts in this thread simply point out that much of the nazi BS at these protests came from a left wing group. As I stated before, it's undeniable that Larouche has used the nazi tactic before and that they will continue.

It is not representative of the whole of folks against this large danger to liberty. It;s a lunatic fringe regardless of what :side" it came from.

Then prove it was LaRouche. Because as it stands the banner appeared at an event organized by Michelle "anti-census" Bauchmann, advertised by FoxNews, attended by the minority leader of the GOP, and right wing host Mark Levin. I was just talking about THIS meeting but if you want to go there SS... this meeting was OWNED by the GOP. It's leaders, voices, and favorite news network were all over it.



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-Wasn't George Monbiot mentioned here a few weeks ago? This is the Pravda forum.

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?p=2977365

This timely report is an answer to Lyndon LaRouche's alarming 'genocide' plan to reduce the world's population by 70% (sic.)


George Monbiot wrote about "THE POPULATION MYTH", it was posted a month ago:


http://www.voltairenet.org/article162471.html


http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2000...george-monbiot



Armando Rozário ¹²³ Cabo Frio, Brazil - November 06, 2009.


P.S. According to Monbiot, the world's population may reach 10 billion, LaRouche's report inferred that it may be reduced to 2 billion!

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Last edited by macanese : 11-07-2009 at 12:55 AM.

-A mention of the cult when a discussion about "fringe" groups starts.

http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums...howThread.aspx

First, the Dems have many, many interest groups in their coalition as well, many of whom, on their own could be described as "fringe". Let's see "you've got truthers, Lyndon LaRouche supporters, anti war protesters, immigration amnesty supporters, pro-abortion activists, gun control activitsts, welfare recipients, gay rights activists, animal rights activists, green peacers, etc" See how easy that is.

-I really did not see any wide scale coverage of the cult at the friday Teabag event. I guess that the Metro fare was too much for the budget or COSTCO had some stands with salmon that day. This is from the NY Times and how do we get the cult and the Teabaggers together here?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...est-over-bill/

Among the other protesters were followers of antigovernment activist Lyndon LaRouche, who circulated a magazine with a retouched picture of Mr. Obama in a Hitler-like mustache on the cover, and members of the Tea Party Patriots, a recently formed group of opponents to the health care bill, some of them carrying bright yellow “Don’t Tread on Me” flags.

-Somewhere on this forum, this was written.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-...=1&%3Bpage=151

At the capitol south subway station, several Lyndon Larouche supporters were passing out literature condemning Obama in general and this ...

-Some Australian mention here. The cult finds that they can not escape the web and their history.

http://mumbrella.com.au/if-you-cant-...ing-nice-11300

If you can’t say anything nice…
Dr Mumbo’s day always brightens when a press release arrives from the splendidly, erm, non-mainstream Citizens Electoral Council of Australia.

And this weekend’s diatribe against The West Australian certainly didn’t disappoint:

“Upon being informed that the West Australian newspaper had run a snide, lying little attack against the CEC and Lyndon LaRouche in its 31st October “Rob Broadfield’s IC Weekend with Daniel Hatch” column, CEC National Secretary Craig Isherwood chuckled, “Need something for your dog to poop on? Something to wrap the fish in? The West Australian’s just the ticket.”

“Under the possibly autobiographical subhead, “Strange Bedfellows”, columnists Blob Broadfield and Spaniel Hatch bragged that they had intimidated the WA State School Teachers’ Union (SSTU) into removing from its website a link to a CEC-authored article, “The True History of the Founding of Australia”. Either Blob or his poodle Spaniel called SSTU head David Kelly, lying that LaRouche and the CEC are “anti-Semitic”, and then demanding, “Does the SSTU endorse LaRouche’s [non-existent] anti-semitism?””

The release then goes on at some length to explain its interpretation of the true history of Australia before concluding: “My advice to Blob and Spaniel is to clean that brown substance off their noses, and try to earn an honest living.”

Dr Mumbo suspects that the press release won’t be getting much of a run in The West, or many other sane newspapers, come to that.

-The cult gets a mention here in the comments section .

http://johnbatchelorshow.com/jb/2009...on-escalation/

I went to drop off something at the Post Office there last August and there was a heated discussion going on in front of the building by a group that had anti Obama signs on health care with some of the passers by. The protesters with the signs said they were LaRouche Democrats. One foisted some of their literature on me and said that Obama and Pelosi were beholden to George Soros who was secretly backed by the Rothschilds. So I bet the sign in the image above had its source in this thinking. I didn't know the Rothschilds existed any more but Larouche's people had them targeted.

-I would be angry if I was a Teabagger since I can't seem to get a way from the Tooth Pickers cult.


http://chuckcurrie.blogs.com/chuck_c...re-reform.html

Among the other protesters were followers of anti-government activist Lyndon LaRouche, who circulated a magazine with a retouched picture of Mr. Obama in a Hitler-like mustache on the cover, and members of the Tea Party Patriots, a recently formed group of opponents to the health care bill, some of them carrying bright yellow “Don’t Tread on Me” flags.

Republican leaders sure are keeping odd company these days.

-Strange, people know Barney Frank more then ever while Rachel Brown is now no name and definately not in the top 50 club in the cult.



http://wincoast.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1521904



-Your head can spin over real and fake Zionist mafias.


http://groups.google.com/group/total...99a639003fcf7c



To sum up



When you take a lok at all that Lyn has said and written, he has declared war on a hell of a lot of people. For a guy who was raised a pacifist, he sure loves to send armies to fight and kill his enemies. who by our being in the cult, are now our enemies.

A murderer named Claude Larouche gets more press coverage then Lyn's historical mission , whatever it is, this weekend.

Another spontaneous eruption against the cult, this time by a former contact no less, has erupted with water balloons.

A good nick name for the mass army Nancy Spannaus is mobizing could be "TheTooth Pickers"

It looks like the cult has a Houston jabrnoi in the Mars Society forum pages.



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[howie]

Speaking of stealing back to the Mars Society...
http://texaslarouchemovement.wordpre...ce-conference/

<i>As esteemed members of an now activated citizenry, you are cordially invited to participate in the LaRouche Political Action Committee sponsored space conference in the NASA area at the Clear Lake Freeman Branch Library (16616 Diana Lane, Clear Lake, TX 77062) on Saturday, November 14, 2009 from 1-4pm.<?i>

Right.

<i>For scientists & experts in the field of aerospace interested in participating with the town hall, but who are unable to attend, are encouraged to send a white paper to the contact information listed below. </i>

Right.

<i>Following the town hall meeting, on the evening of Saturday, November 14 through Sunday, November 15, the LaRouche Youth Movement will be hosting a series of panel discussions and workshops for young adults, to inspire the younger generations with the American intellectual tradition. Topics include subjects such as the epistemology of scientific and artistic greatness, the unseen physical reality behind the mathematical language of astrophysics, Classical artistic beauty and the methods of Bel Canto choral polyphony, and new developments on the relativity of astrobiological space-time, as it applies to LaRouche’s conception of physical economics. Each of those subjects is explained a little more in depth on the invitation.</i>

[chator]

I think we already know what this meeting is about. "The Basement Team" is on tour! Their "Get out of the Basement" tour is nothing more or less than their series of Moon-Mars economic classes that they have already given in New York, which can already be seen on the larouchyouth YouTube channel. Here's a link, in case you have a couple of hours to kill, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbtsV...eature=related

[Fenris]

Good to be able to post again, was seriously missing you guys. Haven't had much facetime with the LYM in about a year, either, since moving off the University of Houston's main campus; missing them, too, sorely. What'd I miss?

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by Fenris

Good to be able to post again, was seriously missing you guys. Haven't had much facetime with the LYM in about a year, either, since moving off the University of Houston's main campus; missing them, too, sorely. What'd I miss?

Fenris welcome back. You have to read the posts to get the full flavor. As best as I can recall, this is the big news.



-The cult carpetbagged the Teabaggers at Health Town Hall meetings with their Obama-Hitler signs. The net result was to stinkbomb the Teabag people and make a star of.........................
Barney Frank who set the video world on fire with his confrontation with a LYMette named Rachel Brown AKA "The Larouche Hitler Hippie Chick" who by the end of the day was now called a "Dining Room Table" who then capitalized on her fame by being sent straight to a.........................
card table shrine to raise money for Lyn while Nancy Spannaus revealed that the cult is down to a 100 or so card table shriners who raise so little money that she and Tony Papert.....................
are now an item at the local COSTCO where they dine at whatever happens to be at the end of a toothpick that day and perhaps discuss the recent phenomena of....................
an enraged citizeny which is flipping card table shrines, splashing ink on lit and organisers and conducting physical attacks along with former student contacts who are lobbing water balloons at LYM, LYMettes and Boomers who are being.............
denounced by Lyn for dare questioning his absolute prediction of an October 12th or 15th complete, end of several nation collapse hell which every member went out to tell the world was going to happen, but instead.....
the cult lost or gave up or whatever, another Sycolin office Bay which reduced the office from a peak of 5 bays to 2 which really does not matter since very few Leesburg members show up anyways since they can stay home and read Lyn's denounciations there and join the rest of the membership who were all agents and conspired against Lyn on his Mission to save the Universe.



Oh, before I forget, Molly Kronberg is suing EIR, Lyn and some other(s) for what transpired after the death of Ken Kronberg.



Larouche World Wide Takeover Tour 2009!

Real slim pickings today folks.

-We head over to Mass and Newburyport for this mass strike rally sighting and typical action by the cult when questions are asked.

http://www.newburyportnews.com/punew...313223826.html

Demonstration brings complaints

By Katie Curley
Staff writer



NEWBURYPORT — Yesterday afternoon's small demonstration in support of former presidential candidate and economist Lyndon LaRouche garnered some complaints that material handed out was inappropriate for city streets.

The two-person demonstration was held outside the post office on Pleasant Street. The two LaRouche supporters, who would not give their names and refused an interview, stood next to a table set up to give out handouts about LaRouche.

In front of the table, a sign depicting President Obama with a doctored Hitler moustache resulted in some residents complaining to post office employees and police that the demonstration was inappropriate.

"We did get some complaints about the content," Lt. Rick Siemasko said. "The post office did complain they were blocking the steps as well, so we sent an officer down there to talk to them about moving away from the steps."

Siemasko said in terms of content, there is little police can do.

"It's protected speech," he said. "Offensive speech is protected speech, and they have a right to their opinions."

Siemasko said unless a protester is using fighting words or threatening imminent battery, anyone is allowed to protest or share their opinion on the streets as long as it is done in an orderly way.

"They have a right to their opinion," he said. "They don't even need a permit."

Last month, demonstrations were held in Toronto, Canada, and closer to home, demonstrations are held every week at Bridgewater State College.

LaRouche is a frequent candidate for United States president with eight campaigns since 1976.

He is the founder and contributing editor of the Executive Intelligence Review, in which he has written about economic, scientific and political topics.

Among yesterday's handouts, a magazine titled "Down with the British Empire" was given to those who donated $5 toward the movement.

The magazine included articles claiming the country is run as a dictatorship and not buying into the idea that a vaccination for the H1N1 virus is needed.

Motioning toward the image of Obama with a Hitler moustache, one passer-by noted, "It would be different if the person on the sign was white."

Yesterday, one of the two demonstrators noted his distaste of Obama's health care plan and glorified former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt as the last great president. He said they chose to set up in front of the post office because it had a large American flag in front of it

-The cult is mentioned in a warning to Chicago Dems about a Nazi who is on the Green Party line.

http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2009/11...drawals-begin/

- wordslinger - Monday, Nov 9, 09 @ 3:19 pm:

Obamarama, it’s good to hear that the Greenies up north are doing their bit.

There are plenty of Greenies here in Oak Park, and I can’t imagine they wouldn’t try to keep an anti-Semitic Fascist from hijacking their party line.

If the Greens want to be taken seriously, and the ones I know do, they have to stamp out these losers with every tactic available.

Case in point: The Dems ignoring the LaRouchies in ‘86.

Take away what happened in Illinois from 25 or so years ago and this is a real mess strike by the cult. They can't wait for the energy bill to be in the forefront to carptetbag some more.



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[chator]

While it is the case that Zubrin's Mars Society has not only the respect of the scientific establishment, but far more political lobbying influence than LPAC could ever hope for, I find Zubrin's idea of Mars Now! even crazier than LaRouche's propsal for a crash science-driver Apollo style program to create the technology to get us to Mars.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by xlcr4life

Fenris welcome back. You have to read the posts to get the full flavor. As best as I can recall, this is the big news.


-The cult carpetbagged the Teabaggers at Health Town Hall meetings with their Obama-Hitler signs. The net result was to stinkbomb the Teabag people and make a star of.........................
Barney Frank who set the video world on fire with his confrontation with a LYMette named Rachel Brown AKA "The Larouche Hitler Hippie Chick" who by the end of the day was now called a "Dining Room Table" who then capitalized on her fame by being sent straight to a.........................
card table shrine to raise money for Lyn while Nancy Spannaus revealed that the cult is down to a 100 or so card table shriners who raise so little money that she and Tony Papert.....................
are now an item at the local COSTCO where they dine at whatever happens to be at the end of a toothpick that day and perhaps discuss the recent phenomena of....................
an enraged citizeny which is flipping card table shrines, splashing ink on lit and organisers and conducting physical attacks along with former student contacts who are lobbing water balloons at LYM, LYMettes and Boomers who are being.............
denounced by Lyn for dare questioning his absolute prediction of an October 12th or 15th complete, end of several nation collapse hell which every member went out to tell the world was going to happen, but instead.....
the cult lost or gave up or whatever, another Sycolin office Bay which reduced the office from a peak of 5 bays to 2 which really does not matter since very few Leesburg members show up anyways since they can stay home and read Lyn's denounciations there and join the rest of the membership who were all agents and conspired against Lyn on his Mission to save the Universe.



Oh, before I forget, Molly Kronberg is suing EIR, Lyn and some other(s) for what transpired after the death of Ken Kronberg.

Hoo boy, that's a mouthful. Yea, I read about the Barney Frank thing, and about Ms. Kronberg's lawsuit. Be it not exactly judicial to wish her luck without an objective judgment rendered first, instead best hopes that the court comes to the right decision.

I've actually been observing segments of the Tea Party since July, and have since come to the conclusion that extremist groups have found a niche.

On September 13th, I checked the website for my local tea party (name withheld for privacy reasons) and was shocked to find a YouTube video front and center on their front page entitled "Your Enemy: George Soros," which was, of course, created and hosted by the LYM. The story ends with me emailing them about it and them removing the video without incident. This especially struck me odd because both groups' positions on healthcare were in diametric opposition.

Since then, I have been noticing increasing activity among, not necessarily the far right (I've since stopped believing in this dichotomy) but the generic fringe: "New World Order" conspiracy theorists, Truthers, World Can't Wait, Birthers, JBS, and of course, LYM.

Does this mean we've got a party full of extremists? Certainly not, but it means that, just as with many protests in the past ten years, this minority had undoubtedly nabbed itself a platform.

Then again, Houston is an oddball even in its own state.

[xlcr4life]

Originally Posted by Fenris

Since then, I have been noticing increasing activity among, not necessarily the far right (I've since stopped believing in this dichotomy) but the generic fringe: "New World Order" conspiracy theorists, Truthers, World Can't Wait, Birthers, JBS, and of course, LYM.

Does this mean we've got a party full of extremists? Certainly not, but it means that, just as with many protests in the past ten years, this minority had undoubtedly nabbed itself a platform.

Then again, Houston is an oddball even in its own state.

Fenris the cult is hitting the right wing areas for money as predicted. Obama is Lyn's Jimmy Carter and the gameplan is to go wide right, not for anything real, but for immediate spare change and contacts to call for money since this sector is charged up.



How do you think that Harley ended up in Texas?

He was head of the Atlanta region until we shipped him to Texas to fundraise from the "yahoos" there who had "oilngas money" to blow on 400 dollar EIR subs. We used to laugh at these people while the same time calling them patriots. They were fattened by a steady diet of pamphlets about Carter, Trilats, CFR and whatever that sector lied before we moved in for the harvesting.


In a few months, Lyn was travelling there and wearing cowboy boots and a cowboy hat.


For the LYM , being left and against Satan Bush/Cheney was more usefull for on college recruitment. My experience back then was that we raised far more money from the right and recruited far more bodies from the left.. The Libertarians and the Ron Paul orgs get the younger crowd instead of us.



The Larouche World Wide Takeover Tour 2009 !



-The tour is running slower and slower with some interesting posts which are in step with Fenris


http://groups.google.com/group/polit...5b7da2746465de

Ha-ha....heeeee's baaaack.

The guy with the Lyndon LaRouche literature and Obama with a Hitler
mustache sign in front of the Post Office.


I find it hilarious Republicans give money to this guy...as though
Lyndon LaRouche is spearheading the fight against Obama's health care
plan!


Who else might the Republicans support as long as they were against
Obama?....could it beeeeeeee, SATAN!

-It is a cult ,guy, not a PAC. LPAC rasied some 7 million and maybe gave a few thousand to a candidate.



http://www.newstimes.com/ci_13755659

Opposing free speech smacks of empty control

Updated: 11/10/2009 04:43:45 PM EST



Brian Koonz's recent front page rant ("Picture of Hate," Wednesday, Oct. 21, News-Times) got me fired up enough to respond. He lambasts the LaRouche Political Action Committee while they were in New Fairfield for comparing Obama to Hitler. I'm shocked a journalist like Mr. Koonz would come down on the side of censorship rather than freedom of the press, freedom of speech, the right to assemble peaceably, and redress of grievances, all embodied in the U.S. Constitution.
One wonders if Mr. Koonz would have been so rabid if someone on the other side of the political spectrum such as Ron Paul or Glenn Beck was being compared to Hitler. I doubt it. I don't know a lot about Lyndon LaRouche, but I will certainly defend his group's right to express political opinions. Calling the LaRouche PAC "hurtful," "incendiary," "rancid," and "disgusting, distasteful and disturbing" is irresponsible by Mr. Koonz, and solely designed to prevent people from considering the LaRouche point of view by invoking a knee-jerk response against them. That smacks of empty control rather than thoughtful response.

If subject selection is a difficulty, Mr. Koonz, I wish to make some suggestions for future articles: Why has the Federal Reserve devalued our currency by 98 percent since 1913? What's actually in the large, white, contrail-like trails appearing in our skies over the past few years? What and who are the numerous detention camps being constructed around the U.S. intended for? What are the dangers

of the untested H1N1 vaccine? Why is it "necessary" for our liberties to be continually whittled away? And, what will happen to us when these huge budget deficits finally come home to roost and completely collapse our economy? (Maybe that's what the detentions camps are for!)

Kevin Nolan

DANBURY

-Another example of the cult's usefullness in providing colorfull descriptions of some thing else.



http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...9/11/diss.html

A reader writes:

Honestly, much as I loathe the Christianist right, it's not really accurate to cite the Westboro Baptist Church as even their fringe. The WBC is more like the LaRouche cultists---so far off in a world of their own that categorizing them as right or left doesn't make sense.

-When you start off with knowing that this is a cult , you make fewer errors in describing it.



http://rightcoastconservative.blogsp...-argument.html

Tuesday, November 10, 2009
Local Wing Nuts LIE in Lack of Argument


Let's just clear this up right here. The loons on the left can't face the fact they have in fraction in their party called LaRouche. The LarouchePAC is a pretty out there organization that has had some fairly controversial signs out and about. The following are among them pulled from google. Larouche has "out there' ideas in my opinion and they hate Obama with a passion. They are active at many rallies I have attended. They are also hard core Democrats.

Recently a local blog tried to say that LaRouche was Americans for Prosperity, which of course was a wilful lie, using this picture below:



It does seem strange that the same people who are so outraged about the pictures that show President Obama with a Hitler mustache did not seem outraged when President Bush was routinely compared to Hitler. I, however, have come to expect selective outrage and a double standard from the left. Those who appaud students who shout down conservative speakers on campus think we should all speak one at a time in a soft voice at a town hall meeting. I got over expecting consistency, balance, and fairness from the mainstream press and liberal activist and pundits a long time ago. I personally know liberals who are decent, fair-minded people, but it seems the liberal leadership, the mainstream press and liberal pundits and activist have no shame or sense of fair play.

Who is behind the Obama=Hitler signs? No doubt, there has been the occasional overzealous non-affiliated citizen who has made the comparison, but the evidence is overwhelming that the bulk of the Hitler=Obama comparisons is the work of a fringe faction of the Democratic Party. The mainstream media has reported this fact but for the most part has downplayed it. They prefer to paint those carrying the Hitler/Obama signs as representative of the citizens showing up at town hall meetings to protest ObamaCare. It suits their agenda to do so. The responsible party for the Hitler/Obama comparison is open about who they are but Obama’s protectors in the mainstream media are downplaying the roll of the guilty party.


The faction behind the Obama=Hitler campaign are followers of Lyndon LaRouche. Lyndon LaRouche is a registered Democrat and has run in Democratic primaries for the Democratic Presidential nominee seven times and once he ran for President of the United States as the candidate of the U. S. Labor Party. He is one weird dude. In his youth he was a member of the Trotskyite Socialist Workers Party and in the 60’s he was active in the left-wing radical and anti-war movement including Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). He spent a period in prison for tax evasion and mail fraud and has a cult-like following. He has had a movement that has attracted followers and has networked with radicals in Germany, Russia and Latin America. Despite being down right weird, he is by all reports an intellect and is highly educated. He is a fascinating character. Despite his long history of left wing activism, that places him to the left of Stalin, he has sometimes taken positions that are out of charter for an orthodox leftist and has sometimes been accused of anti-Semitism and he subscribes to some strange conspiracy theories.

This sign has been showing up at town hall meetings and government run health care protests clearly carries the Lyndon LaRouche Political Action Committee name on it. You can go to the Lyndon Larouche website (link) and see if for yourself.

To listen to the smear tactics coming from people like Chuck Cook, "Champs", and Rachel Maddow, you would think these signs were the work of Americans for Prosperity, when in fact they are the work of a registered Democrat with a long history of ties to communist and leftist causes.

To read more about Lyndon LaRouche see Wikipedia. To read more on the roll of the LaRouche Obama=Hitler campaign see: Obama as Hitler exposed as a leftist plant and Lyndon LaRouche and the Hitler Meme.

Not a good run for the Larouche Tooth Pickers.

For the LYM and LYMettes, if you want to see real economic forcasts, consider this from Kiplinger's magazine this month.

Best Financial Minds
Pundits who have a finger on the pulse of the markets.

Best Financial Analyst: MEREDITH WHITNEY, Meredith Whitney Advisory Group
Back in October of 2007, Meredith Whitney warned that Citigroup would have to raise capital, sell assets or cut its dividend. The call made her one of the early voices on Wall Street to sound the alarm about the coming financial crisis. Whitney’s record of many such prescient calls makes her far from a one-hit wonder. View some of her research free at www.meredithwhitneyllc.com.

Best Fund Manager: BRUCE BERKOWITZ, Fairholme Fund
Bruce Berkowitz ignores the crowd to find bargains among the unloved and beaten down. An admirer of value-investing legend Warren Buffett, he looks to buy great companies that are selling at prices he thinks are cheap and that have experienced managers. His Fairholme Fund (FAIRX) returned 13% annualized from its December 1999 start through October 8, while the S&P 500 lost 1.4% a year.

Best Market Strategist: LIZ ANN SONDERS, Charles Schwab
Investment strategist Liz Ann Sonders has proved herself an expert in divining which way the economic winds will blow.

In the fall of 2006, for example, she warned Schwab clients about the housing-market bubble. Recently, she cautioned that “the easiest money has been made” in the stock market’s latest rally. You can read her commentary free at www.schwab.com.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[howie]

Something that just caught my eye.

I'm rolling down one of the web pages for Alex Jones, found this 9/11 Truther story amusing enough to look at, and see the first comment here:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/world-tr...911-truth.html
Michael Says:

November 11th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Larouche International Webcast on now at http://www.Larouchepac.com Don’t miss it!


Hm. I predict that if I go to other articles here, I'll see this same message. Go to the next article, and a quick scan doesn't show anything (not that he didn't comment there), and go to the next post and see

http://www.prisonplanet.com/vaccine-...blishment.html


Michael Reply:

November 11th, 2009 at 11:21 am

Larouche International Webcast on now at http://www.Larouchepac.com Don’t miss it!


There you have it! The Promotional Strategy to this latest and greatest International Webcast!

But shouldn't Michael have been watching it then?