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Old 11-03-2009, 04:41 PM
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Chator If you like clay animation, check out "Robot Chicken" on Comedy Central. Very funny 15 minute stop animation comedy.




****************************BIG NEWS FOR LAROUCHE AND CULT!********************





Nancy Spannaus put on that victory dress from the Sycolin office clothes box. Victory is ours!!



We travel to Northern NJ where the cult has been declared.................................



The Losers of the Week!



There was some tough competition, but our forces prevailed as the story of the cult being tangled up with Clifton based drug firm Hoffman Laroche and having paint foisted upon a card table shrine has earned this prestigious award.




http://community.fox4kc.com/_LOSERS-...901/96364.html



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LOSERS OF THE WEEK: 11-01-09



Here’s our first ever TRIPLE hit! NorthJersey.com, a LaRouche political action committee and an unknown health care reform supporter all earn the title of LOSER OF THE WEEK! Apparently the LaRouche people were protesting with signs showing Obama as Hitler (for which they get named loser)! They were showered with purple paint thrown on them by an unknown health care supporter (for which she gets the award). Liberals need to remember that Freedom Of Speech encompasses distasteful speech as well as speech you agree with. And NorthJersey.com (a local newspaper) gets the title for originally reporting that instead of the conservative nutcase organization LaRouche, the Hitler signs were being held by members of La Roche Pharmaceuticals. Way to fact check, NorthJersey.com!


Now onto The Larouche World Wide Takeover Tour 2009!



-The cult earns some more coverage in TPM for their Loser of the Week award in NJ.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com...k-11-01-09.php



-The cult wins the heart of this blogger.

http://thetruthserumblog.blogspot.co...d-economy.html



-More Larouche Jabroni talk on this site.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage913993/pg1



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Not at all. I think you will find him unique in history. He speaks with facts to back up his cause. Facts that always stand the test of time.

"It's very scary if you look at it from a distance."

What's scary is people failing to do basic research. He could challenge and beat ANY individual on the subject of economics, on the world stage, with no problems at all.


-There are a few mentions of Lyn in the context of being crazy. Since these pop up daily like the sun. I will not be posting them to cut down on the time I spend doing this. Bsically, Larouche and crazy go together daily.



-This one is funny and worth repeating though.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?p=1804742



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You western NY guys are a gas.

To round out the threesome, all you need is to recruit a retired seed salesman from Fredonia who has an ax to grind about the pervasive influence of Freemasonry in American politics - and their dogged efforts to keep Lyndon LaRouche out of the White House.


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Slim pickings today. however, being named "Loser of the Week" should provoke a victory dance in Leesburg and maybe another choice from the dollar menu today. But then again, the award was a three way tie, so Lyn is justified in taking back that dollar.



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Old 11-03-2009, 05:42 PM
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My experience is that social cults are expert at being chameleons--at appealing to people of all stripes and colors and propagandizing their message in a way that so shocks, confuses or ingratiates them with information, that the "sucker" feels bad to tell the cult seller to "go to hell". I have a lot of experience dealing with various forms of aggression by cults, without having my common sense kick in, because I want to "turn the other cheek", not "resist evil" with "evil", show charity and forgiveness, etc.. But I'm trying to fight fraud now, turning lawless people into the authorities, hiring lawyers when the government doesn't act in cases of clear fraud.

Larouche has employed women creatively to charm and seduce prospective members. My guess is that a lot of women on the front lines have employed forms of sexual bribery and other scurrilous methods to "sink the hook" into the rube, to wheedle money out of the member. Cults realize that marriage of a man to one of their dyed in the wool female submissives will be a powerful inducement, preventing defection. It's interesting how Scientology also tries to get members "audited", confessing embarrassing details of their lives so a wayward or defecting member can be blackmailed into submission! L. Ron Hubbard actively taught this, and Scientology actually won a long pitched battle with the IRS by their practice of "Overwhelm and devastate", spending millions on private detectives digging up filth on IRS workers to blackmail the IRS into submission. Has Larouche attempted this?

Personally, I will not be blackmailed, I have nothing to hide that matters.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:50 PM
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Default LaRouche's use of women

In the case of the LaRouche organization, which i haven't had contact with for 9 years, i don't think they use women in the manner you suggest. I believe most of the female recruiters are volunteers who have been brainwashed, not employees. I also don't think there is any sexual inuendo implied in their organizing methods, as this would go against the LaRouche group's philosophy. Though it is true that a potential male recruit might be more implied to talk to or attend a meeting if asked by an attractive looking female, as opposed to nice looking guy, if he's heterosexual. I don't think female LaRouche organizers are encouraged to look sexually appealing. Have you seen the Rachel Brown video? She looked like she hadn't bathed or slept in days, her hair was uncombed, she had no make-up, etc. Hence, the hippie-chick moniker. While some groups may use this male sexual weakness against their intended victim, i wouldn't count the LaRouche group among those that do.

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Old 11-03-2009, 07:57 PM
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I couldn't believe my eyes when I read it, but that thieving fraud just decided to address us, his "former associates," in a missive titled "Morality and Former Associates" (http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12263), which I paste below.

I have only one thing to say to that egomaniacal infant: It was your personal moral depravity far more than your stupidity that drove me out of your "association," you clueless fraud!

And I have only one thing to say to his current victims: The only reason LaRouche wrote this piece is to flatter your impaired moral sentiment in order to keep you raising money to support his lifestyle.

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Morality and Former Associates

November 3, 2009 (LPAC)-- Lyndon LaRouche has provided the following point, in response to an associate's request for relevant supplement, as follows:
In my own life, since the time about the age of nearly 15 years, about sixty-five years ago, when I rightly rejected Euclidean geometry on correct moral premises at that time, I have seen many generations come and go. Since more recently than that, since March 1, 1968, the organization with which I have been associated since that time, has seen approximately two successive young-adult generations come into the ranks of that association, and, in numerous cases, also go.
For that, our commitment will be greatly honored among the knowledgeably wise for generations to come.
For those former associates who still live, but have abandoned our association, a great existential paradox confronts a certain some of them, respecting their dismal choice of a current life's moral outcome. This confronts, especially those who have turned against us, in deserting the moral commitment which they had once adopted. In many wars, once brave men "went over to the other side," out of opportunism. For the latter, life has lost its moral meaning, for reason of the elementary, existential fact, that they have chosen a morally doomed destiny for their continued existence.
In any case, the "side" those who became enemies, serving the side of Adorno, Arendt, and the Congress for Cultural Freedom, have chosen a virtual Hell. We are now confronted with the on-rush of the very early, general physical-breakdown-crisis of the cause which they have presently adopted. A nation which chose the pathway they have chosen is certainly a doomed destiny; only the course we have chosen, together with those, as in the United States, who have joined the cause of that mass strike, a mass strike akin to that of those who pulled down the DDR in late 1989, will leave this mortal life with justified pride in having lived — lived either in triumph of humanity's or wearing defeat with eternal pride.
In my lifetime, and in my knowledge of history earlier, I have seen generations come and go. I have witnessed generations which have borne the seeds of an honorable future, and those who have chosen that worse-than-death, to seek wealth and comfort in the delusions which are an opportunistic embrace of corruption. Admittedly, from my own life's experience, I have known many who chose a Judas-like apostasy, and who may have also chosen to hang themselves in one fashion or another. Usually, the choice of apostasy had something to do with "money." The society which they have chosen to serve is, in any case, doomed. We who fight still, are the guidon-bearers of a present or future, victorious humanity.
Wars of all kinds, are like that. We shall now probably prove victorious, very soon. The others are probably doomed, in one way or another, that also very soon. In the meantime, the essential meaning of one's mortal life, lies, essentially in what comes out of it for generations still to come.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:56 PM
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BorisMag,

I see this as more evidence of cognative dissonance in the organization, that LaRouche has to threaten members that their lives are meaningless and without morality if they leave, that if they, should they decide to "turn traitor", like Molly, that they will go to Hell. We can take this kind of thing lite-heartedly, but LYMers who think the world of Lyn, will be frightened by this kind of proclamation. That's what the cult is counting on to keep people in.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:27 PM
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It is a lurid spectacle, showing he is fearful of having the organization lose more money and people. If this were a lawless country, like Jamaica, for example, he would just hire a thug or a gang to make an example of someone looking for the exits. One of their fundraisers used to call me and suggest that former adherents and contributers often met untimely deaths. I remember a "patriot"-style leader who suggested that when he had a bonafide enemy, he would just put him on the top of his prayer list and something really bad would happen to said individual.

The tactic or using slurs like "Judas" or "Quisling" or "Benedict Arnold" to again warn about former members being found with self-inflicted suicides, shows the man has gone from the gutter into the sewer. I attended a Seventh Day Adventist church last winter and the district supervisor was there to wash the feet of members or returning members. There was a projected image in the front of Jesus washing Judas' feet. Nothing like guilt tripping people into giving or staying loyal to the movement. A lot of these cult leaders may one day be found, like Adolf Hitler and associates, in a bunker in some state of composition....
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:33 PM
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Did Lyn also flunk out of basic math?

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In my own life, since the time about the age of nearly 15 years, about sixty-five years ago, when I rightly rejected Euclidean geometry on correct moral premises at that time, I have seen many generations come and go.
The idiot was born on Sep 9th, 1922. He is 87 years old. The Larouche Rieman Triple curve Time Machine has him telling people that he is 15 + 65 which = 80 years of age.


In reading this:

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Since more recently than that, since March 1, 1968, the organization with which I have been associated since that time, has seen approximately two successive young-adult generations come into the ranks of that association, and, in numerous cases, also go.
He is begging the LYM and LYMettes to not ask themsleves about what happened to the past generations of members of which there is more then just two. In my view, start with the SDS LC which was replaced with my generation in the mid 1970s. We lost a big chunk in the 1980s and only recruited a few more in the 1990s. The LYM project came in 1999 to replace those who left earlier or were purged. After Ken's death we had abother wave of losses as well as big losses in Europe.

I see at least 4 generations of members with each wave replacing the past one and the same cheap parlor tricks being used . All of the previous failures of his delusions are blamed on those who left before and the new ones are now the chosen ones who will carry out his dream to save the universe.

This is just a cheap parlor trick to make the latest LYM leftovers feel special and to forget that there were thousands of ex members who left before after finding out how silly or criminal this all was.

The joke on the LYM is that on their very own web site thet can see dozens of Campaigners and reports, all written by leadership which left years ago. Only a few broken down NEC members and Leesburg deadenders have been in for the long haul and they are seeing Lyn ready to send them on to Potomac river ice floes with a cheap parlor LYM or LYMette ready to take their place.

In other words, there were only boomers and the LYM and everyone else did not exist and do not ask what happened to them.

This is a sick joke by Lyn.

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Admittedly, from my own life's experience, I have known many who chose a Judas-like apostasy, and who may have also chosen to hang themselves in one fashion or another. Usually, the choice of apostasy had something to do with "money."
When the boom was coming down in the 1980s he began all sort of lunacy comparing himself to Christ in the Garden of Gethesmene(sp?) The LYM and LYMettes are falling for another cheap parlor trick of Lyn doing hocus pocus on them where he is a greater then life figure, God Like in his prognostication skills which are oohed and aaahhed by them. Lyn has to fool the remains ofn the cult into keeping his name out there for ever. Instead of a jail cell, Lyn will be sent 6 feet under. He needs some drunken NEC member and crazed LYM or LYMette to run from the basement and tell the world that they saw the ghost of Lyn down stairs when the stock market falls 200 points.

At no point will Lyn answer a question of how he managed to lose hundreds of millions of dollars in his persuit of delusions. Lyn wil also side step "Money" and never talk about how he directly paid pout millions and millions to scam artists and cost the LC millions more in horrendous business and financial practises while cheating our supporters out of over 30 million.

The greatest spymaster in the history of the universe has some how created an org where everyone was an agent!

One wonders if any sort of legal case by Molly has triggered this latest attack of delusions in Lyn.

This crap has been used by Lyn several times.

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We shall now probably prove victorious, very soon. The others are probably doomed, in one way or another, that also very soon. In the meantime, the essential meaning of one's mortal life, lies, essentially in what comes out of it for generations still to come.
I heard it a few times at conferences and read it in several of his opuses, usually written in hiding to stop a Cuban Frog man, KGB or Knight of Malta assasination plot.

The whole point as BorisMaglev notes is too just hang on there, raise more money casue we are just this close from total victory where you will be be handed medals and have ticker tape parades thrown for you down Broadway.

The reality is that the only award I see is the NJ based "Losers of the Week Award" the cult just won in a three way.

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The man is obviously more than a little paranoid. Why doesn't he retire to a nice island in the South Pacific?

I have wondered how to speak sense to those who are off kilter. Will Helga listen to reason? Does Larouche have a Catholic confessor he uses for counsel who could be spoken to about this man's unmanageability?
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:35 PM
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Larouche World Wide Takeover Tour 2009!



After winning a piece of the "Loser of the week" award , the cult refuses to celebrate and moves onto a few places to keep the LYM and LYMettes working around the clock. Simple card table shrines revieve reinforcements of LYMsters where 4 people now deploy and no one can say anything.



-We start off the tour in Mass at Bridgwater State University.



http://www.dailynewstranscript.com/s...bama-to-Hitler



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BSC students voice displeasure with demonstrators comparing Obama to Hitler
By Rebecca Hyman
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Posted Nov 03, 2009 @ 06:55 PM

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Bridgewater —
Demonstrators holding posters comparing President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler have been frequenting the Bridgewater State College campus, a BSC student told selectmen.

“I completely understand freedom of speech, but that’s hate speech,” BSC senior Noube Rateau said.

The demonstrators are apparently supporters of controversial politician Lyndon Larouche. Rateau said a magazine the demonstrators were passing out was Larouche literature.

Rateau said the demonstrators have showed up every Tuesday for the past few weeks handing out fliers and carrying large posters showing Barack Obama with an Adolf Hitler mustache.

In past weeks, there were two demonstrators, but at their appearance on Oct. 27, there were four demonstrators, two women and two men, all of them white and in their mid to late 20s, he said.

Rateau, who is African-American, said the demonstrators refused to identify themselves to him but did tell him they are not students and are not in any way affiliated with Bridgewater State College.

“If it was George Bush, I would have been here, too. It has nothing to do with party or race,” Rateau told selectmen.

He asked selectmen if there was anything that could be done to have them removed from campus.

“When I first saw them I felt angry, but then I said to myself, 'I’m going to handle this professionally,'” he said.

He said the demonstrators have been standing on the sidewalk in front of the Rondileau Campus Center, which is located on Park Avenue, and in front of Boyden Hall, which is on Summer Street.

Bridgewater State College spokesperson Eva Gaffney said she has also received reports of the demonstrators standing on the mall area between the campus center and the library.

The college has a free speech and demonstration policy that states, “Members of the college community and all groups or individuals coming on campus for the specific purpose of speaking or demonstrating must be sponsored by a college-recognized organization, group or department.”

Gaffney said the demonstrators appear to be in violation of the policy when they are on college property. When they are on sidewalks of public streets, however, even ones that run through the campus, the college has no jurisdiction, Gaffney said.

She said college officials have chosen not to enforce the policy in this case because the demonstrators have been peaceable and non-disruptive of traffic. They have been asked to move on at least one occasion when they were on the steps and lawn of the campus center, which could potentially have impeded the flow of pedestrians, she said.

“The college has chosen to err heavily on the side of free speech,” Gaffney said.

“We are a public campus, not a walled-in campus or a private campus,” she said.

But Rateau said he’s concerned the situation will eventually disrupt in violence. He said many African-American students are deeply offended by the demonstrations.

On one occasion some of his friends staged a counter-protest adjacent to the demonstrators, but the atmosphere became contentious, he said.

“There’s going to be someone in the school who has a bad day and decides to do something about it. It’s like a volcano,” Rateau said.

There have already been “a few intense arguments” between students other than himself and the demonstrators, Rateau said.

Similar recent demonstrations in other communities have been linked to the Lyndon Larouche Political Action Committee, which promotes a campaign on its Web site called “Stop Obama’s Nazi Health Plan” and offers a downloadable version of a poster showing Obama with a Hitler mustache, as well as downloadable pamphlets.

The campaign by the controversial political group got a lot of publicity when a follower carrying one of the posters asked U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., at a town hall meeting on health care reform, “Why do you continue to support a Nazi policy?”

Frank famously replied, “When you ask me that question, I am going to revert to my ethnic heritage and answer your question with a question: On what planet do you spend most of your time?”

He also said to her: “It is a tribute to the First Amendment that this kind of vile, contemptible nonsense is so freely propagated.”

Rateau said he’s angry but determined to handle his anger constructively.

“I love the campus. It’s like someone intruding on my home,” Rateau said.

He said he challenged the demonstrators to a debate, but they would not give him their contact information.

So Rateau, who makes documentaries, has another idea if having them removed from the campus is not an option.

“I’m going to do a documentary on health care,” he said.

Bridgewater Independent


-Our next stop is in Rhode Island were the cult makes an appearance at the local PO with their BO and the townspeople say NO.



http://www.eastbayri.com/detail/132111.html



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Protestors link Obama with Hitler
Men post sign in front of Barrington Post Office



By Joan Warren

On Tuesday, Nov. 3, at about 10:30 a.m., two young men hung a large banner in front of the Barrington branch of the United States Post Office on Middle Highway. The banner was of U.S. President Barrack Obama sporting a small moustache, much like that made famous by Nazi leader Adolph Hitler. Under the picture it read, “I’ve Changed.”

The men, who declined to be interviewed for this story, passed out literature put out by LaRouche Political Action Committee. The committee, under the direction of Lyndon LaRouche Jr., is against President Obama’s health care reform and other global issues. They produce pamphlets and literature, and the website is full of web asts and videos, essays and information on the wrongdoings of political policies in the world. The LaRouche Committee has offices all over the country, and the Barrington Post office was not the only one with demonstrators out in front.

Barrington Postmaster Chuck Narciso said the Barrington Police were called because the large banner was attached to wires belonging to local phone companies, which is not allowed. The men set up other posters on the sidewalk in front of the post office, which according to the postmaster is allowable, as long as they did not step on the government property.

“When I called our public affairs office, they knew what I was calling about because they had received calls from other postmasters. They said it was okay for them to be out there as long as they didn’t come on our property,” Mr. Narciso said.

Another man was on the sidewalk holding a poster. Barrington resident Bob Cavallaro had gone to the post office earlier in the day with his wife and saw the banner. He went home and made his own poster that read, “I respect the president and the presidency.”

Mr. Cavallaro said he was offended by the picture of President Obama with a Hitler moustache and felt it was disrespectful.

The post office is directly across the street from Barrington Middle School and Mr. Cavallaro said he planned to stay in front of the post office until students were dismissed from school so they could see another side of demonstrating.

“I want the kids to know that we should show respect for our president. What they are doing shows no respect,” he said.


(Comments)...Lyndon LaRouche is a very troubled person... his cult like following makes me sick... .............



Pretty sad well I disagree with Obama on health care and dragging feet well good you soldiers are dying these lydon laroche wacko's as allways finf a way to get in the news. Perhaps they just dont get it that laroche views are more like hitler than anyone wioth the exception of Farakan maybe. What a shame. ........



These Larouche people are REALLY nuts. Really.

Mr. Larouche, of course, is a CRIMINAL...so he may be comparable in some way to Hitler:

"He was sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment in 1988 for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and tax code violations"


He is also considered a cult leader, conspiracy theorist, fascist, and antisemite..so, yeah, he fits the definition pretty well.


That ANYONE would agree with him is a telling fact. .............



They should also understand that LaRouche and his followers are 100% admitted...by themselves...to have been communists and maoists! He was one of the leaders of the Socialist and other Russian-backed movements in the USA!


So, if we want to make a comparison more accurate:

Obama is FDR

LaRouche is Stalin


BTW, LaRouche people are against Obamas health care because they want something vastly more radical....Single Payer System (like Canada).


They are not against it for the same reasons as most Republicans and big business types....


Strangely enough, I would like to see single payer - it is the only real solution. At the same time, any group that needs to get attention by putting up Hitler posters is nothing I will get near.


-The cult, in Schachtian efficiency, combines Halloween with a MASSIVE MASS STRIKE RALLY in NYC . Remember how Lyn used to go nuts when he was asked about the Queen of England and said that the press was inventing this? Now we find that the cult loves to dress up like the Queen of England while Howie G ooohs and aahhs. Great pictures.



http://blogs.journalism.cuny.edu/eli...-and-larouche/



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happened to come across a protest in lower Manhattan today. Members of the LaRouche PAC were dressed as various versions of political figures, including one as Mouse-olini, to rally against the way Barack Obama has been running the country. They even had a picture of the president wearing a Hitler mustache. In case you didn’t know where that likeness was coming from, they actually have downloadable Obama as Hitler posters on their website. Honestly, I can’t find a clear explanation of their stances or what exactly it was they were protesting here, even though I’ve perused their website and read the signs.

-Liza



on 03 Nov 2009 at 10:57 pm1 Howard Gibson


What fantastic pictures. And don’t neglect the queen of England in a lovely purple outfit in the foreground of one pix. So good that Mayor Bloomberg is getting the support that he deserves!





To sum up



There is something Psychoish when we see a male LCer dress up like the Queen of England and Lyn denies that he has a hard on for the Queen.



Howard Gibson is a name which a few people have emailed me as being the top Larouche Jabroni "Howie G". There is a great story there folks.



Lyn and Helga now have dueling webcasts which are all gushing about China signing trade deals with Russia and this meaning something which Lyn is the center of. In the insular world of the cult, stuff like this is a daily reminder that if not for a few dollars more, then the universe would be saved by Lyn, so stay out longer and call another time zone.



To help the LYM and LYMettes understand how this cheap parlor trick works, just read business magazines and you will find that China has been investing their cash surplus all over the world. Russia is but part of the picture since the Chinese have billions invested in IRan, Africa, Brazil, Europe and everywhere else. This really is an illusion that you are being fed daily.



Here is a URL for Fortune magazine which will explain this to you.



http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/281522



What helped me leave the LC in one piece was having access to to the outside world on a daily basis via book stores, magazines and radio shows to listen to interviews and read about what goes on in the world. My daily experience was usually listening to someone blab about somehting or someone as an eevil person and then chuckling because the person never read about it or understood what they were talking about. If the stock market is moody, why do you think people invest in bonds and GNMA or gov paper?



Richie Feeman, a LCer you no longer hear about used to write about how rail is going to end in the USA. since his hilarious EIR articles from years ago, the industry has invested billions in technology and has made billions while competing with trucking. Warren Buffet just announced that he is investing over 34 billion dollars in a rail company as part of his long term investment strategy.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33599744...s-us_business/



Richie Freeman could not buy one share of stock of Burlington Northern unless it came in a bottle and was 3 bucks. Lyn could /would rather buy a large stock of Rheingau off of the back of Richie.



I would pay attention to what Warren Buffet says about the economy instead of Richie Freeman and the cult LYMsters. If you leave soon, you may be about the age I was when I left. Take advantage of depressed house and investment prices like I did when I left and you will eventually be out of this Bizarro world and into a life which you control.



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From the LPAC website:http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12259
Getting your derrier licked by Cheminade is no small accomplishment. Either Helga told Cheminade to promote Harley in order to undercut Steinberg, or Cheminade has a hard-on for the recently widowed Harley.

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Harley Schlanger in France, A True Moment of Joy

November 3, 2009 (LPAC)—Solidarité et Progrès President Jacques Cheminade wrote the following article which has been translated from the French, which is available at www.solidariteetprogres.org.
Harley Schlanger, the LaRouche spokesman for the Western region of the United States, has just completed a two-week stay in France. However, mentioning his official position, important as it may be, does not begin to express what he has contributed to us.
I will attempt to formulate it better here by saying that he opened to us the gateway to our capacity for human creativity in all domains, in art as in science, in poetry as in music, in politics as in economics.
As American as an all-terrain Jeep, Harley offered those who had the opportunity to hear him speak, the conviction that America can be the conveyor of the best of European culture, if the fight is taken up to uproot the influence of British oligarchism, both in the U.S.A. and elsewhere. The stunning paradox is that this fight in the same time awakens the best of our own French culture, and leaving behind the today's underling mentality for the greatest moments of our history.
Those who accompanied Harley in Lyon during his visit to the Center for the History of the Résistance and of Deportation (Centre d'Histoire de la Résistance et de Déportation) profoundly felt this resonance between our international struggle today, as patriots and as world citizens, and that of the leadership and innumerable unknown individuals who sacrificed their lives back then.
In the three well-attended public meetings on the American situation, before more than 200 people in Paris, Lyon, and Rennes, Harley took the opportunity to convey to our activists and friends, the message of Aeschylus' Prometheus. He showed us that with this drama, not only was the principle of fire brought to men, but above all how the Titan had "planted hope inside them." It is this hope, immortal within man, whereas our bodies are themselves mortal, which is the foundation for any politics worthy of the name, transmitted from one human being to the other, and from one generation to another. Harley took as a contemporary example of this fight for hope, for which Prometheus accepted to suffer knowing the destiny that awaited him, the fight of Harley's own wife Susan, who had just died of cancer in July. He showed how she fought over more than two years up to the last moment, using the best of the universal Jewish culture, in order to nourish with both with ideas and financial contributions she raised, the youth of the LaRouche Youth Movement, who are our hope.
Hence, against the domineering and destructive mind of Zeus — the real tragic figure in the play, for he is incapable of knowing his destiny — each of us can bear within in himself a small Prometheus, which can grow stronger to the extent we each raise up against the challenges of injustice and pettiness, a principle of immortality that becomes expressed in serving the common good and those generations yet to be born.
Harley strolled through the streets of Paris, Rennes, and the old inner city of Lyon with immense pleasure. We exchanged tales of Yiddish humor that return small things back to their little importance, and make grow the larger ones by means of irony, the indispensable complement of tragedy. An expert of the three Moseses: the first Moses, Maimonides, and Mendelssohn, as well as of Sholom Aleichem and the renaissance of New York Yiddish theater that would inspire the collaboration of so many Jews and African-Americans in the Civil Rights Movement. He sees great hope in the rising ferment of the mass strike in the United States, provided we know how to inspire it.
Harley, himself an accomplished amateur violin player, gave the 40 members of the LaRouche Youth Movement in France also a magnificent presentation on the collaboration over time between Bach, Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven, showing how the musical themes of the first were taken up and developed by the latter three, as in the five fugues of Mozart's K405, where he transcribes the four-voice fugues of Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier for the four instruments of the string quartet.
This dialogue of voices from the past inspired all of us in the present, especially since Harley also showed us how, in Le Nozze di Figaro, Mozart politically attacked the oligarchy of the Habsburg world, based on the libretto of Beaumarchais, Franklin's collaborator in Paris, who financed the cannon of Rochambeau and the American Revolution, inflicting the decisive defeat of Cornwallis at Yorktown.
Harley also had the opportunity to meet several leading French economists who fully endorse the return, but internationally, of Roosevelt's Glass-Steagall Act, in order to uproot the current crisis.
He came to France 25 years ago. We all committed ourselves to having him back soon, as a Breton dairy producer told us, that he, too, hopes to bring a universal dimension to his struggle.

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Hasn't Harley always been the LaRouche spokesman for the Western Region? If so, where's the promotion? As far as I know, he was when I was in. I remember a discussion when I was in about who would succeed LaRouche, Johnnathan Tennenbaum's name popped up, but Ted said it would be Helga.
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Look behind the scenes. I think that we could definitely learn a bit from Buffett's involvement in the potential recuperation of America's rail industry. He will certainly do far more than all of Lyn's braying about maglevs and trans-Bering strait tunnels. He even belies those conservatives who are also convinced that the US econ. is heading to hell in a handcart as a result of Obama's policies. Would Buffett be risking $34 billion if that were the case (not to say that I am concerned about how the Pres. has pushed the Goldman Sachs crowd to the forefront in the so-called economic and financial recovery programs.
Lyn should also be praising the generosity of Costco since it seems that, upon good report, Tony Papert and Nancy Spannaus have been making the rounds glomming free food samples that are passed out at the local Costco as their way of supplementing their slim stipends. Doubt that Lyn or Helga are sharing this budget consciousness.
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Look behind the scenes. I think that we could definitely learn a bit from Buffett's involvement in the potential recuperation of America's rail industry. He will certainly do far more than all of Lyn's braying about maglevs and trans-Bering strait tunnels. He even belies those conservatives who are also convinced that the US econ. is heading to hell in a handcart as a result of Obama's policies. Would Buffett be risking $34 billion if that were the case (not to say that I am concerned about how the Pres. has pushed the Goldman Sachs crowd to the forefront in the so-called economic and financial recovery programs.
Lyn should also be praising the generosity of Costco since it seems that, upon good report, Tony Papert and Nancy Spannaus have been making the rounds glomming free food samples that are passed out at the local Costco as their way of supplementing their slim stipends. Doubt that Lyn or Helga are sharing this budget consciousness.
This leaves me very confused. Either I am I bigger moron than I think I am, or you just smoked something. What are the things you are referring/responding to?
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Hasn't Harley always been the LaRouche spokesman for the Western Region? If so, where's the promotion? As far as I know, he was when I was in. I remember a discussion when I was in about who would succeed LaRouche, Johnnathan Tennenbaum's name popped up, but Ted said it would be Helga.
When I worked at Winstar and lived in Northern Virginia I had new car and would sometimes take co-workers westward to the beautiful Shenandoah National Park and/or other fantastic countryside locations. During one outing, I picked up an Australian friend in Washington and then drove to Leesburg to pick up Susan M. (a "former" LAR?!). My wife and I are extremely fond of Susan and she was a fabulous worker at Winstar.

Before picking up Susan, I saw some LaRouchies on a semi-highway spot in Leesburg and decided to "have some fun" with my Australian friend. I turned the car around and then stopped to talk.

One of them walked over to the car. I ask what he was doing. He said something about stopping the Zionists from taking over the world (this was circa 2001-2002). Then he offered us a New Federalist. I paid for it, "hoping" to see an article by my brother and, luckily, there was one. I pointed to the article and asked the LaRouchie:

Who is this Tennenbaum guy?

The LaRouchie replied:

"The next President of the United States."

My co-worker friend was completely freaked out -- he had no idea what was going on; he knew I had a brother named Jonathan but I never said a word about his political "affiliations". The whole thing was a kind of practical joke on my part. I knew the LaRouchie would say "something" complementary about Jonathan, but not that he would be the next President! That seemed a bit far-fetched given that he had not lived in the States for over 25 years. And, of course, there are "a few" other reasons.

Here is a question for all LYMsters: If you become President of the United States, do you become more powerful or less powerful than if you become the "successor" to Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.?

Peter Tennenbaum October 4, 2009

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I saw some LaRouchies on a semi-highway spot in Leesburg and decided to "have some fun" with my Australian friend. I turned the car around and then stopped to talk.

One of them walked over to the car. I ask what he was doing. He said something about stopping the Zionists from taking over the world (this was circa 2001-2002).
WTF is this? The cult is hell bent on stopping Zionists from taking over the world? Next you will be telling me that Lyn and the cult are welcome at the Zayed Institute in Egypt while the cult is tied to some sort of far right German outfit like CODE.





Chator Lyn has always liked Harley as he is the prepiest of the leadership as far as clothes go. You can use clothing as a barometer of sorts in the cult as to see who is on top or going to the bottom of the pecking order.

To see who is the king of the LYM, just compare Harley's blazers to Phil Rubenstien's Walmart shirts when the cult puts up pictures or videos of both .

Compare Nancy Spannaus and her schmatza box wardrobe to chief skeevosa Debbie Freeman to see who is tops in the USA. Helga has the biggest budget for clothing while our own Rachel Brown is one step from wearing a potatoe sack in her serfdom at card table shrines.



When we were in NYC there were several delis and bars around the corner from both the W 29th and W 58th st offices which were LC hangouts. Lyn has successfully forecasted the complete economic collapse of his members to the functional equivalent of a scavenging homeless person over the decades with our latest "Around the Town" sightings of NEC members foraging at COSTCO.

The feeding frenzy seems to take place strategically during the maximum roll out of push cart samples at the local Costco. It is quite a stretch to see that instead of planning the mass strike for Lyn to lead, our leadership is spending valuable time in scraping soiled bills and spare change from the office to buy basic paper supplies for the office. Considering that the LYM have replaced the boomers in many positions in the hierarchy, it makes sense to send clueless NEC members out for errands and then have them forage for calories based on what is at the end of a toothpick at COSTCO.

This has a special significance for me because it triggered a memory of mine from a speech Lyn did at a National Conference decades ago. At this event, Lyn delighted in telling depression era stories of growing up in New England where he saw many older people with nothing to do, chewing on a toothpick while they were hungry and broke.

Alas, we have our current Leesburg leadership following Lyn's directives on what to do during an economic collapse, stay hungry, broke and chew on a toothpick with nothing to do.

I for one, will proudly salute COSTCO this Saturday when I shop for bargains and reach for that toothpick of chicken and a cracker of lobster spread.





************************The Larouche World Wide Takeover Tour 2009!************************



-We return to RI and see that the cult saved some gas by setting up a card table shrine in the day time and later creating a mass strike intervention at Brown University.

http://www.browndailyherald.com/ethi...sism-1.2049447

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Singer, a professor at Princeton, came to Brown with support from the Brown Animal Rights Club and the Kaleidoscope Lecture Fund, a group promoting the expression of diversity of ideas and opinions at the University. Though his appearances have spurred protests in the past, Tuesday’s talk occurred without incident, save a quiet protest and pamphleting from members of the Lyndon LaRouche movement before the event.


-I want to show you a cheap parlor trick of Lyn's which I wrote about many months ago in descrbing how Lyn will repeat what we did with Jimmy Carter with Obama. The words here are EXACTLY the same in creating the illusion that Lyn is leading some massive collection of leaders from everywhere who will overthrow Carter, or Obama in this case.

http://unhypnotize.com/nwo-new-world...l-webcast.html

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LaRouche leads a discussion with patriotic forces in and around the US government as to how to save the United States from the British influence through the Obama administration.


-A Larouche Jabroni after a phone call to give more money?

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage915993/pg1

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Rush didn't call Obama a narcisist first.

Leftist, Lyndon LaRouche did. And as usual everyone copied him without giving him credit.

As usual Obama just doesn't have the BALLS to confront him. LaRouche scares the crap out of Obama.

From last may:

Democrats May Be Running Scared, But Some Republicans Are Picking Up On LaRouche's Obama Narcissus Polemic

[link to www.larouchepac.com]

Obama is just a child who can't confront the real source.


To sum up

Lyn has members who have been with him since the 1960s being one step away from picking through trash cans in Leesburg these days! COSTCO is a sort of cult safety net I guess.


The intervention against an animal rights ethicist has me thinking of myself and some of us here. Aren't we after all more concerned with the plight of members then Lyn? If anything, we have been the most vocal and demonstrative of the exploitation of LCer, LYM and LYMettes. Perhaps we need to call ourselves "People for the ethical treatment of Larouchies" or PETOL


When Harley is sent to Europe, think of another reason like depression, of the mental kind. There has been cases in the past where leading members have been sent overseas to get away from some depressing event like a failed relationship. Harley has a lot on his mind since the death of his wife. My exit counselor told me that if you see a male member go overseas to Europe, see if Helga tries to set them up with one of her girls . It is one way of her keeping her mitts in the USA.



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WTF is this? The cult is hell bent on stopping Zionists from taking over the world? Next you will be telling me that Lyn and the cult are welcome at the Zayed Institute in Egypt
You mean the same Zayed Institute that welcomed Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and James Baker?
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This leaves me very confused. Either I am I bigger moron than I think I am, or you just smoked something. What are the things you are referring/responding to?
Sorry if my past entry was confusing. The first half of the entry was in response to something by xlcr4life re: Warren Buffett and his investment in rail. I was making the point that many people, not just LaRouche but many on both the right and left as well, have been denouncing the economic plans of the Obama Administration (I have my own doubts) but that Warren Buffett seems pretty confident that things are going to turn around to the point of investing plenty of his own money. I would suspect his views of economics are a lot more sound than Lyn's.

The second half about Tony and Nancy, which was information that came my way from other sources regarding the fact that they seem to be appreciating the free eats at Costco which helps them survive the Schactian economics practiced inside the organization.
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You mean the same Zayed Institute that welcomed Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and James Baker?

Yes. The Zayed Institute welcomed a lot more than Carter,Gore and James Baker. In my view, I see Lyn using a very expensive cheap parlor trick in running for oofice and presenting himself as a "Leading Democratic Leader in the USA" to gullible people and countries. At the same time, Lyn does make a very good usefull fool for others who share his pedigree or membership in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion book club



This is from the ADL's site.





http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/zayed_center.htm



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Update: The government of the United Arab Emirates announced the closure of the Zayed Center in August 2003. The closure followed increased attention by the international community to the extremist speakers featured at the Zayed Center podium. In a statement issued August 18, the Anti-Defamation League welcomed the UAE government's decision and called on the Arab League not to resuscitate the discredited think-tank.


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The Zayed Center for Coordination and Follow Up, based in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, was established in 1999 as the official think-tank of the League of Arab States, an association of 22 Arab nations. The founding chairman of the Center is H.H. Sheikh Sultan Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the Deputy Prime Minister of the UAE, who continues in this role. Sheikh Sultan is the son of UAE President Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan.

Though the Zayed Center hosts lectures by Western heads of state and diplomats - its roster of past speakers includes former President Jimmy Carter, former Vice President Al Gore and former Secretary of State James Baker - the center also provides a platform for extremist speakers to promote virulently anti-Jewish and anti-Israel views.

The Center regularly publishes anti-Semitic and conspiracy theory literature and promulgates anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism through its speakers and official publications. The center promotes an extreme, anti-Israel agenda, including efforts to delegitimize the Jewish State with speeches and literature seeking to deny Jewish religious and historical ties to Israel and Jerusalem.

The Center has provided a platform to speakers who promote the view that the war in Iraq was merely a "strategic" step in a U.S. conspiracy whose goal is the "domination of the Middle East and [the] world." The Center's Web site claims that the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C. were actually orchestrated by the U.S. military in an effort to blame the attacks on the Muslim world.

The Zayed Center's poisonous proclamations on Jews and Israel have continued to increase in intensity. Recent speakers have described Jews as "enemies of all nations" and "cheaters whose greed knows no bounds." The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an infamous anti-Semitic forgery created in the 19th Century to vilify and persecute Jews, has been held up as a factual account of a Jewish plan to "control the world," and speakers have accused Israel of trying to sterilize Palestinian children by lacing the water "used by some Palestinian schools" with chemicals.

Some Zayed speakers have engaged in attempts to deny the Holocaust, though all references to Holocaust denial on the English pages of the Center's Web site were removed in 2002.

As part of its virulently anti-Semitic agenda, the Zayed Center has reached out to American extremists and anti-Semites.

In March 2003, for example, the Center provided a platform to Michael Collins Piper, an American extremist and writer for the American Free Press, a conspiracy-oriented, anti-Semitic publication. Piper's speech was laced with references to "Jewish control" of the U.S. government and media and bizarre conspiracy theories, such as the theory that Israel and the Mossad were behind President John F. Kennedy's assassination and the Watergate scandal.

Recent Zayed Center activities described on its Web site include:

Lectures

May 20, 2003
Mr. Rami Tahbob, advisor to Al Quds' File on Arab Affairs, falsely claimed that Israel was trying to control the Palestinian population through the use of "chemical drugs." According to the Zayed Center Web site, Tahbob said that "Israel police not only use [chemical] drugs for getting information, but also for changing social structures in Palestinian society," and claimed that "some sterilizing drugs were found in water reservoirs used by some Palestinian schools."

May 1, 2003
Dr. Yussuf Abdallah Al Zamel, a "Saudi Economic Expert," blamed the war in Iraq on "radical Zionist and right-wing Christian" influence. He said that America's war against Iraq "aims at achieving visions and comprehensive plans in the area according to the objectives of certain radical Zionist and right wing Christian powers planning behind the scenes to push the American government towards destructive wars."

April 13, 2003
Dr. Shawqi Shaath, an "Archaeology and Heritage Expert" for the Arab League, alleged that Israel is currently engaged in a campaign to "wipe out Palestinian, Arab and Islamic archaeological and historical landmarks" in its own territory in order to "confer [historical] legitimacy on the Zionist Entity." He added that Israel intends to destroy such sites in "Syria, Lebanon and Iraq." He claimed that Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, which was destroyed by the ancient Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar in 587 BCE, had never been built, and called into question the Jewish historical connection to the land of Israel. "On the contrary," he said, "scientific findings prove that Palestine and its people are Arabs who have been living in it since thousands of years."

April 6, 2003
Saleh Al Qallab, former Jordanian Information Minister, claimed that influential "rabbis" in the Washington administration were seeking to "reshape the world" through U.S. military intervention, and urged that the political leadership in Washington should be "removed."

April 5, 2003
Dr. Gad Taha, Professor of Modern and Contemporary History at Ain Sham University, asserted that agents of "international Zionism" have implanted themselves throughout the world, and claimed that "in every Western country" there is a "minister working in a shadow government" whose job is to "impose support for Israel and raise funds and aid for it."

March 11, 2003
According to the Zayed Center Web Site, the American anti-Semite Michael Collins Piper presented a lecture in which he claimed that the Jewish conspiracies for world domination described in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the infamous anti-Semitic forgery, are "not a theory but a real fact." He described President Bush's policies as deriving from his "Christian fundamentalism" and the President himself as a "classic fanatic Zionist." He also claimed that Israel is developing an "ethnic bomb" that will "eliminate the whole Arab race." Piper elaborated on the classic canard of Jewish/Zionist control of the American media and government, and claimed that Israel and the Mossad were responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the Watergate scandal, and the Monica Lewinsky affair.

Publications

The Zayed Center also published a number of tracts that repeated anti-Semitic and anti-American themes:


In American Media and the Arab Israeli Conflict (4/14/03), the Zayed Center gives anti-Semite Michael Collins Piper a platform from which to espouse his conspiracy theories regarding Jewish/Zionist domination of the U.S.


Among its other inflammatory, anti-American claims, the Zayed Center alleges in Oil in the American Foreign Policy: Oil Calculations in the War on Iraq (3/26/03) that the goal of the United States is "domination of the world" - and that the US launched a war in Iraq in order to seize its oil resources to aid in this goal.


In Policy of Domination and Contemporary World Tensions (3/24/03), the Zayed Center alleges that Israel is an agent of "forces of world hegemony" and rehashes the canard that the Jewish state has imperialist designs on other Arab lands. The publication further alleges that the United States and Israel are both pursuing aggressive strategies to "re-shape the Middle East" in conformation with Israeli "expansionist ambitions" and American dreams of "hegemony." It describes Israel as "diabolical."


Even after it was revealed and confirmed by a number of investigations that reports of a "massacre" of Palestinians in the Jenin refugee camp by Israelis in April 2002 had been fabricated by Palestinian activists, the Zayed Center continued to disseminate the myth that Israel had deliberately exterminated hundreds of innocent civilians. Jenin: Massacre against Humanity (1/21/03) published in Arabic and Spanish, claims that, "Hundreds of Palestinians civilians were killed, many crushed as their homes were demolished while they were still inside. Israel Defence Force removed bodies in trucks, buried them in mass graves and many remained under the piles of debris. News reporters, aid workers and other outsiders were prevented from entering the camp over a 14-day period. What happened in Jenin, exceeded all norms. Even in the worst wars and military confrontations, massacres of this scale hadn't taken place."

Previous Activities:

Publications and Symposia Deny the Holocaust


On August 28th, 2002, the Zayed Center hosted a symposium on "Semitism," which included Holocaust denial. The press release announcing the event noted that this symposium would "counter the historical and political fallacies propagated by Israel." In particular, the Center noted Israel was "spreading lies and exaggerations about holocaust [sic] in order to squeeze out huge sums of money from European countries through worst [sic] forms of blackmail." The conference labeled the Holocaust a "false fable" perpetuated by Israel.


The Zionist Movement and its Animosity to Jews, a report published in October 2001 claimed that "the Zionists," not the Nazis, "were the people who killed the Jews in Europe." According to the report, the Zionists murdered fellow Jews and sent them to die in "Nazi concentration camps" so other Jews would be terrorized into migrating to Israel. The report maintains that the Nazis cooperated with the Zionists by supplying weapons to "the Zionist army in Palestine" and helping to force "scores of Jews to immigrate to Palestine."


In Those Who Challenged Israel (February 2001), the Center denied the destruction of European Jewry during World War II, lauding such Holocaust deniers as the French radical Roger Garoudy and disgraced British historian David Irving.

Speakers Support Terrorism


In a June 19, 2002 presentation sponsored by the Center, Archimandrite Father Atallah Hanna of the Greek Orthodox Church in Jerusalem praised Palestinian "martyrdom" attacks. He stated that he supports "martyrdom or suicide bombing" because it serves "the continued Intifada for freedom." According to Hanna, "the Israeli Zionist regime" is "committing genocide in Palestine" and the Palestinians have the right "to defend themselves from the Israeli barbarism and atrocities." Father Hanna also stated that "the conduct of the Zionist movement is characterized by its racist nature, and that it is completely in contradiction with the Moslem and Christian values." The Greek Orthodox Patriarchate later issued an official statement condemning Father Hanna's remarks, and removed him from his post. Hanna was questioned by the police in Jerusalem about his statements made at the Zayed Center.


In a March 2, 2002 speech at the Center, religious scholar Dr. Mohamed Saeed Al Bouti, Islamic Studies Professor at Damascus University, stressed that "all military operations done by Palestinian militants" should be "classified as martyr operations and not suicidal operations." He explained that those militants are "sacrificing their lives to defend their families, land and brothers, and are considered as martyrs."

Promoting September 11 Conspiracy Theories


A June 2002 Zayed Center conference, titled "The Middle East as a Strategic Crossroad," featured presentations by government ministers from Middle Eastern nations and a speech from the notorious American anti-Semite Lyndon LaRouche. In the question-and-answer session after his speech, LaRouche detailed his paranoid beliefs about the September 11 attacks and the Jews he claims are controlling American foreign policy. According to LaRouche, Osama bin Laden "could never have" orchestrated the September 11 attacks, which he believes "could not have happened without the connivance of something inside, very high level, inside the United States military command." LaRouche pointed to the "Zionist lobby," "Jewish gangsters," and "Christian Zionists" as forces that have sought to control U.S. policies towards Israel and have been "bought by money, the so-called Zionist money, and the mega crowd in New York."



In April 2002, the Zayed Center hosted a talk by Theirry Meyssan, author of a book that claims the U.S. military was responsible for the September 11th attacks. Meyssan claims that the Pentagon was damaged by a missile launched by the U.S. military, not a hijacked airplane. In addition to hosting Meyssan as a speaker, the Zayed Center translated his book, The Appalling Fraud, into Arabic in July 2002.

Speakers, Publications Dispute Existence of Second Temple

Zayed Center publications and lectures have consistently denied the historical existence of the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, site of the current-day Al-Aqsa Mosque.


Chasing History: Israel and Palestinian Antiquities (August 2002) accuses Israel of plotting to demolish the Al Aqsa Mosque "to build their so-called Solomon Temple."


In January 2002, Dr. Hassan Ali Khater, a Palestinian researcher and editor of the Al Quds Al-Sharif Encyclopedia, questioned whether the Temple of Solomon actually existed and claimed that the Al-Aqsa Mosque may collapse due to Israeli archeological excavations. Khater claimed that "Israelis are falsifying history" by carving "Jewish inscriptions on rocks" and then "calling international experts to rediscover" the rocks "as Jewish monuments."


Al Buraq Wall Not Wailing Wall (December 2001) calls "simply baseless" the "Zionist alleged rights to the [Western] Wall" that was in fact part of the Jewish Temple site, adding for good measure that the Al Aqsa Mosque was built "more than a thousand years before [King] Solomon."

Claims of 'Jewish Control' of America

Zayed Center publications perpetuate the myth of a "Jewish conspiracy" manipulating American foreign policy.


In Role of the Jews In Distorting Arab Image in the Western Culture (July 2002) the Center asserts that Zionists control 70% of the print media and 80% of the electronic media in the United States and claims that they use this control to distort Americans' image of Arabs. The "study" blames "Zionists" for using words and phrases in the media that lead Americans to feel "hostility towards Arabs and Muslims." The report also attacks the respected scholar, Bernard Lewis, for allegedly depicting Islam as the successor to Communism as the primary "evil" endangering America in a "clash of cultures."


The Battle of Armageddon and the End of the Arab-Israel Conflict as Viewed by Some American Circles (July 2002) claims that Zionists believe in an impending nuclear apocalypse that will be followed by a world Jewish theocracy, and that they have encouraged this belief among Western Christians as well. Bemoaning the "alarming influence of Zionism on the United States of America," the document argues that "a number of American presidents like Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Reagan were greatly influenced by the Zionist thought and believed that everything is ready for 'Armageddon.'"


Does Israel Rule the World? (August 2001) explains that "the Jewish lobby" in the United States is responsible for Israel's successes because "this lobby controls the media, the Congress and monopolies."

Laroucheplanet.info has some info about Lyn and 9/11 .



http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pm...ult.NineEleven



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LaRouche first called it a coup d'etat, an "inside job" with the help of the Israeli Mossad, and then blamed his "usual suspects", the Zionists:

“Under no circumstances, LaRouche assesses, could the attacks of Sept. 11 have been organized and directed by Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda apparatus, based out of Afghanistan. […] LaRouche also emphasizes that the recent years' massive Israeli espionage against and covert-operations penetration of the United States—including the U.S national security and military institutions—may suggest a more direct Israeli involvement in the military coup activities that facilitated the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington. […] This apparatus is part of the "Mega" network of prominent wealthy North American Zionists led by Edgar Bronfman, Ronald Lauder, Michael Steinhardt, et al., who are the leading promoters of Ariel Sharon's suicidal war drive, and who wish to draw the United States into that effort to assure a global conflagration on a scale of the First World War or worse.” "Lyndon H. LaRouche Exposes Sept. 11 Coup-Plotters: "Zbigniew Brzezinski and Sept. 11th"", by Jeffrey Steinberg, Press Release, Jan. 2002
Israel/Mossad are behind 9/11 and the drive of the Bush administration to invade Iraq:

"Lyndon LaRouche reports that there is now firm evidence that the ongoing drive to induce President George W. Bush to launch a war against Iraq, is a 1996 Israeli government policy that is being foisted on the President by a nest of Israeli agents inside the U.S. government. This Israeli spy network inside the United States was unable achieve their objective until President Bush was entrapped by the events of Sept. 11, 2001 and the falsified accounts of those events provided by this foreign intelligence apparatus, and lured over to their policies. Lyndon LaRouche demands to know: Is this not the motive that explains the who and why of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001? LaRouche demands an immediate Congressional investigation, to help purge the U.S. government of this foreign intelligence apparatus, which attempted, with the 9/11 events, to seize control over U.S. foreign policy." (source: "The Pollard Affair Never Ended!" (press release), EIR, Sept. 8, 2002 )


"Former" larouchie Webster Tarpley even appeared at a "Peace conference" in Paris in company of larouchite responsibles Helga Zepp-LaRouche, Jacques Cheminade, Christine Bierre, all hosted by Thierry Meyssan, a French author who is campaigning for the same "9/11 Conspiracy Theory".
Meyssan, Cheminade, Helga and Lyndon LaRouche were also hosted by the "Zayed Centre" in Abu Dhabi. This Centre became a platform to spread antisemitism, revisionism and 9/11 anti-semitic theories. It was closed in 2003 after diplomatic pressures.






MEMRI has the following.



Lyn was not happy when the center was closed down.



http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=sr&ID=SR2103



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. LaRouche Condemns Closure & Blames Bush Administration

On August 31, 2003, Lyndon LaRouche's presidential campaign issued a press release titled "LaRouche Defends Zayed Centre." He wrote: " It is my information, which I have received through channels which I know to be responsible and reliable, that the closing of the Zayed Centre, where the U.S.A.'s James Baker III once spoke, as I had done, occurred under heavy pressure from elements within the U.S. Bush Administration. Such action by the United States is another piece of idiocy, like the continuing U.S. war in Iraq, which is directly contrary to the current and long-term security interests of my republic, the U.S.A. Under the present circumstances, when I am, at this moment, the only legally registered candidate competent to be chosen in the 2004 U.S. presidential election, I have a special responsibility to speak out, on various occasions, in defense of the present and future integrity of the presidency of my nation. Therefore, on this occasion, it is my immediate duty to point out the important role which the Zayed Centre had performed in contributing to the cause of world security and peace…

"The consequences of the stupid and outrageous folly of some U.S. representatives' thuggish attempts to stifle the voice of the Zayed Centre, must be assessed against that background… U.S. pressures to shut down the Zayed Centre are disgusting to anyone who prizes democratic freedoms of peoples. Such disgusting measures, as presently set against the background of Proconsul Bremer's role in supervising the carpetbagging role of Cheney's Halliburton, are not the road to successful diplomacy; under the circumstances, such behavior by certain U.S. officials is less than human. The Zayed Centre's role as a place for such a forum among the member states of the Arab League, has been proven most appropriate, and valuable on this account. Here, the world has had the opportunity to engage in dialogue with the Arab world most immediately, and, implicitly, with a larger part of the world of Islamic cultures. Until now, the Zayed Centre's role in fostering of emergent consensus among Arab states, on numerous matters, has become a critical element in defining constructive goals among nations of the region…" [27]



http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=sr&ID=SR1803



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VII: Lyndon Larouche's Website: 'The Similarities in Outlook between Sheikh Zayed's Vision and that Presented by Larouche are Striking'

Lyndon Larouche's website posted a complete transcript of his June 2, 2002 speech at the Zayed Centre, of which only a summary was available on the Zayed Centre's site. In his speech, Larouche claims that the U.S. government, along with a few other governments, is leading civilization into "a global dark age comparable to that which struck Europe about seven-hundred-fifty years ago." [16]

Larouche's website also featured an article about his visit to the Zayed Centre from Executive Intelligence Review, a news service run by him and his supporters. The article states: "The keynote of the June 2-3 conference in the United Arab Emirates on 'The Role of Oil and Gas in World Politics' was given, not by an Arab, but by Lyndon Larouche, candidate for the 2004 Democratic nomination for U.S. [president]. In the UAE's capital, Abu Dhabi, leading personalities from Arab oil-producing nations gathered at the Zayed Centre for Coordination and Follow-Up of the Arab League; they heard Larouche speak on 'The Mideast as a Strategic Crossroad.' His participation underscored the growing influence of his ideas in the Arab and Islamic world, especially since the dramatic events of Sept.11... The similarities in outlook between Sheikh Zayed's vision, and that presented by Larouche, are striking." [17]

Larouche's website also features a speech given at the Zayed Centre by a "prominent Syrian Islamic scholar," Sheikh Mohammed Sa'id Ramadhan Al-Bouti, who referred to Larouche several times in his speech. [18] The Larouche website reports that "Sheikh Mohammed Sa'id Ramadhan Al-Bouti, a prominent Islamic scholar from Syria gave a lecture in the Zayed Centre for Coordination and Follow-Up in Abu Dhabi, recently on the current situation in Palestine and the world situation since Sept. 11. Although the discussion was dominated by his defense of the Palestinian suicide 'martyrs' as a legitimate resistance against military occupation." [19]

"Al-Bouti stated that 'terrorism, in the sense the Western mass media describes it, has always been and is still being cooked and fermented by certain Western circles, then it is exported to the Arab world and the Islamic world to be implemented there.' He emphasized that after the fall of the Soviet Union 'much attention has recently been given to how to plan, prepare and then export this terrorism to us. These Western circles chose Islam as the next enemy...'"

"Al-Bouti said that Larouche's idea of the land-bridge has set off `discreet hysteria among international Zionist circles.' The new factor, which is only a little more than one year old, is the discreet hysteria which is spreading in the international Zionist circles in reaction to the project about which some news has come recently. This is the attempt by Asian and European countries to build what they call the Eurasian Land-Bridge between the two. It is well known that Russia is playing a key role in this project, which could lead to the establishment of complete networks of magnetically levitated trains, extending from Rotterdam to Shanghai. The objective of this project is to establish a Eurasian economic system, replacing the current collapsing financial system, which is threatening the world, and on top of it the United States. This [project] could eliminate the hegemony of international Zionism on the world economy and the monetary system. Therefore, they must launch a religious war into which Europe would be drawn, and thus this project would vanish amidst the flames of this raging war..."

"As best we know, Al-Bouti's lecture was covered in Al-Arab International and Al-Quds Al-Arabi on April 26, both London-based major Arabic dailies. The Zayed Centre for Cooperation and Follow-Up, a think-tank sponsored by the government of the United Arab Emirates, sent the lecture to international Arabic media as a press release. The Centre is also considered an organ of the Organization of the Arab League. The lecture is posted prominently on the Zayed Centre's website and Al-Bouti's own website."


As long as we have Al-Bouti mentioned, here is a gem.



http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/12/sy...-deported.html



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Syrian Muslim cleric name-drops Lyndon LaRouche, says Ben Franklin wanted Jews deported
Sheikh Muhammad Sa'id Ramadan Al-Buti is the author of Jihad: How to Understand and Practice It, which I discuss at some length in my book Islam Unveiled. Here he manifests the jihad/loony convergence by naming fringe cultish pol Lyndon LaRouche, whose programmed minions serenaded me about being in league with Dick Cheney after my talk at the Heritage Foundation in 2006, and by dredging up a fictional antisemitic Ben Franklin speech. Here again: jihadists and their allies just can't defend their views in light of reality, so they constantly retreat into fantasy.

"Syrian Cleric Muhammad Sa'id Ramadhan Al-Bouti: Benjamin Franklin Called upon Americans to Deport Jews from the U.S.," from MEMRITV:

Following is an excerpt from a public address delivered by Syrian cleric Muhammad Sa'id Ramadhan Al-Bouti, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on December 10, 2007:
Muhammad Sa'id Ramadhan Al-Bouti: We have no interest in war. We all dream about peace. But it is Israel that fans the flames of war, like Lyndon LaRouche said yesterday. I would like to conclude my speech by quoting the will that Benjamin Franklin read out loud to his American "sons" – but the sons and grandsons have torn this will to shreds. In a speech that Benjamin Franklin delivered at the committee for the drafting of the U.S. constitution in 1789, he warned the committee, and the Americans in general, of the Jewish danger for America and the world. Let me read his speech to you, translated into Arabic.

There is a great danger threatening the United States of America. That danger is the Jewish danger. Gentlemen, in whichever land the Jews have settled, they have corrupted the morals, and lowered the level of commercial honesty. They always isolate themselves and never mix with others. Because of their feelings of persecution, they always attempt to choke the nations economically, like they did to Portugal and Spain. Since 1700 [sic.], they have been lamenting their fate. But gentlemen, if the world were to give them Palestine, which they claim along with other property, they would soon find a reason to start lamenting their fate once again. How come? Because they are vermin – he was referring to grave-dwellers who leave their tombs to suck the blood of others. They cannot live among their own kind. They live at the expense of Christians and others who do not belong to their race. If they are not deported from the United States by the Constitution, within a century they will be streaming into our country in such large numbers that will enable them to rule the country, destroy us, and change the form of government for which we Americans shed our blood, and for which we have sacrificed our lives, our property, and our personal freedom. If we do not deport the Jews, our children will become, within 200 years, field laborers working to feed the Jews, while the Jews will stay in the banks, gleefully rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, that if you do not deport the Jews once and for all, your children and grandchildren will curse you in your graves. The values of the Jews are not the same as those of the Americans, and they will not be the same even if they live among us for ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. The Jews will pose a danger to this country, if they are allowed in. They will destroy our institutions.

I think I can declare this truth openly. I do not live in Germany or Europe, and so I do not need to whisper these things. We are in a country from which we want to declare who is the number one enemy lying in wait for world peace. Thank you, and may God be with you.


There's a Projection Alert above, when he starts talking about threats to world peace.




This is an objection to using Lyn to denounce the Zayed Center. I love how they write that one sentence.



http://www.arabialink.com/Archive/GW...2003_07_26.htm



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VII. Another specialty of Mr. Stalinsky is guilt by association. In section VII of his report on Zayed Centre activities, he quotes from an article on the Lyndon LaRouche website entitled, “The Similarities in Outlook between Sheikh Zayed’s vision and that presented by Larouche are Striking.” Again, Mr. LaRouche is entitled to assess his own greatness or the value of his own vision, which is of no concern to the Zayed Centre What is striking, however, is Mr. Stalinsky’s veiled attempt at discrediting HH Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan, President of the UAE, by associating his political vision with that of Lyndon LaRouche. This must be part of MEMRI’s mission of bridging “the language gap which exists between the West and the Middle East!”




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-The cult finds someone ready to be led, no one else is coming though.



http://howtogobankrupt.org/do-you-be...arouche-jr.htm



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WereTurtle:



The funniest thing ever said by Dennis Miller when he was announcer on Monday Night Football:

"That pass was so far left, it almost decapitated Lyndon LeRouche"

November 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm



lisanjoe68:
unbelievable

November 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

Scourge 0' Fascism:
I think it’s sad when anyone listens to anything Lyndon LaRouche says.

November 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm


-What is funny here is that this forum has all the key words, London, Nazi, Russia, China, India for the cult to make hay with. However, the one Larouche jabroni is sadly ignored. Maybe it is the delivery. I really can not laugh at this becuase I was as dopey as this person when I joined.



http://forum.nationstates.net/viewto...23415&start=25



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by SF Penguins » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:22 pm

If there is a World War III it will be between The U.S. And Russia but, Russia doesn't want to fight. They would rather like to do as LaRouche says and work with the U.S. because unlike us, The Russians are smart enough to see what is coming in the current future for the world and therefore The only next major thing that is going to happen is a general break down of the entire global economic system entering us into a new dark age so check it out at larouchepac.com.
-Some fighting words here as the Tea Baggers can put thousands in DC on short notice and the cult can only carpet bag with whome ever is not busy that day working in Leesburg.

http://groups.google.com/group/opend...0f566006ed829a

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In a message dated 11/5/2009 1:56:36 PM Central Standard Time,



ProudLiber...@aol.com writes:


Is the Right-Wing Tea Party Kettle Starting to Losing Its Steam?

Right wing? How about left wingers that want to stop Obamba care? In
Spring, Texas, Lyndon LaRouche, the quintessential progressive/marxist has set
up tables and booths opposing Obamba care next to the Post Office, even
possibly on Post Office property.


-Lyn makes wikipediareview in a roundabout way.



http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=27167



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QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 5th November 2009, 1:30pm)

I realize that's not a wiki-specific concern, but if you ask me, Wikipedia's near-dominance in that regard only makes things easier for those wishing to establish centralized control, if not get rid of the whole thing.

That probably sounds like something Lyndon LaRouche would say, doesn't it?

Actually, LaRouche doesn't like the original French Encyclopedists from back in the day. I think he frowns on orthodoxy.


-I figured that the mass strike with Lyn leading the charge would surely start here.



http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-lower-12.html



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Oh my God, LaRouche followers = lefties? What right wing blog told you that?!

The LaRouche Democrats

You're really slipping delusianne. You've been very misinformed lately. What's up? ..............

I have never been able to figure out what LaRouche is except for opportunistic fraud.

Top sum up

This is real sad where the cult is just swept aside like trash as thousands show up in DC to protest Obama amd no mention of the cult except on a one person blog.

It is apparent that most people in the USA with a computer are not fooled about Lyn as much as the Zayed Centre was. Or maybe the Zayed Centre took a whiff of Lyn and liked what they smelled.

Carter, Gore, Chirac, Neil Bush, James Baker have been at the Zayed center and I would question their judgement as well. However, this is not the forum for that. I place Lyn in the Irving and David Duke level of players at Zayed. Harvard gave a few million back and Zayed said this in one article.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/art...rab_president/


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Zayed ordered the shutdown of the center in August 2003, saying that it ''had engaged in a discourse that starkly contradicted the principles of interfaith tolerance."
Lyn sure is bad luck to a host where ever he shows up.


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Carter, Gore, Chirac, Neil Bush, James Baker have been at the Zayed center and I would question their judgement as well. However, this is not the forum for that.

Thanks to you, yes it is the forum for that. In your original post you implied that Lyn speaking at the Zayed Center proves that he is an anti-semite. So, I am asking, does Al Gore speaking at the Zayed Center prove that he is an anti-semite too? Did Joe Lieberman run for Vice President on an anti-semitic ticket?

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