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chator 01-28-2010 11:02 PM

The Mass Strike Strikes Again!
 
The line coming from LPAC regarding Scott Brown's victory last week is that the "mass strike" defeated Obama's candidate (Martha Coakley) in Massachusettes. By "mass strike", they don't mean what Rosa Luxemburg meant when she used the term, instead they mean an imaginary, spontaneous (translation: Doesn't require organizing), popular uprising that defeats LaRouche's enemies, and brings LYM "magically" to the threshold of political power. If only such a thing existed LaRouche would have been President long ago, like in that Sliders episode where LaRouche suceeds J.Edgar Hoover as President of the United States. By "defeated Obama's candidate" they mean that Martha Coakley, the Democratic candidate running for Ted Kennedy's seat, wasn't defeated, rather it was Obama and his Hitlerian program that was defeated. In other words, a stronger Democratic candidate defeating Scott Brown would have been an impossibility. While some news agencies have given credence to the notion that anger played a role in Martha Coakley's defeat, http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-senate-upset/ That anger seems to have come from an unlikely source. Though some news agencies overplayed the role of the "tea Party" movement in Coakley's defeat, polling very clearly indicates that Brown wasn't elected by a fringe section of the Republican party (which only makes up 15% of registered voters in the state). He was elected largely by independents, http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...pendent-voters, and secondly, by Democrats (22%), http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/po...-81999072.html Including many Democrats and independents who voted for Obama a little over a year ago. In other words, Brown was elected by former Obama voters who feel betrayed by the President and the Democratic Party. In what way they feel betrayed and why is a good question, and it most likely has something to do with some of the issues LPAC has been bringing up as causes for voter anger, like the economy, healthcare, the bailout of the banks, and the war in afghanistan. But the question remains, how many Scott Brown voters believed they were defeating Hitler's program? Probably none, or very few. And it remains to be seen how many Scott Brown voters will turn out to elect LaRouche's Brown. Following LPAC logic, if, in fact, Scott Brown was elected by the "mass strike", isn't it logical to think they will turn out and elect Rachel Brown to the U.S. House of Representatives? Doesn't she represent an opposition to everything voters are angry at, as well as, a solution to those very problems that are making voters angry? It's interesting to re-watch this video of LaRouchies carpetbagging a Scott Brown rally, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta6Oj7SgMXg Even the Brown supporters are uncomfortable with the Obama-Hitler poster, and clearly regard the LaRouchies as an unwelcome presence and nuisance. Rather than leading the "mass strike", it appears the LaRouchies are clearly tailing it.

Patentrezept 01-28-2010 11:11 PM

Bueso
 
While Obama is Hitler, Germans are of course victims of "Crimes against Humanity" - at least according to Bueso. They have a new video online for the elections in Northrine-Westphalia: "The Dismantling of Northrine-Westfalia - A Crime against Humanity". For those of you unlucky enough to understand German, watch it here:

http://bueso.de/

The contrast between the LYM "candidate"'s Polish name and accent and her teutonic nationalist drivel about "High tech made in Germany" and the "People of Poets and Thinkers" is also quite funny - probably won't work so well for the intended audience. She also goes on calling for "Glass-Steagall" laws and a "Pecora Commission" without further explaining what these are - as few Germans will have heard about them.

xlcr4life 01-30-2010 06:45 AM

Chator. here is how the elections work. In the 1980s we ran hundreds of candidates across the board via our Dem front group "NDPC". Let me explain how the cheap parlor trick works . In many races there would ne no candidate of a district that was retruning a long time Dem or GOP candidate bakc to office for decades. The primary electiuon would often be the only election worth paying attention to. We would run candidates who could garner an easy 10 to 15 % protest vote the sawm way any body else would get with just having thier name on the ballot. To the members who are in an insular world, they would believe that the vote meant that a massive outouring of support was for Lyn and we could win elections and Lyn would win the Presidency. Having the name of Brown is also a plus if the cult wishes to gather some protest votes against Barney Frank.



I was always amused by listening to some of our local members who were running who actually believed that they would be upsetting a 6 term official in the primary . The 20 % vote, if tha tmuch would then makes its way to the briefing and phone teams to show how the country is gung ho for Lyn and if they only lent us their entire life savings, we would have won.



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Originally Posted by Patentrezept (Post 383659)
She also goes on calling for "Glass-Steagall" laws and a "Pecora Commission" without further explaining what these are - as few Germans will have heard about them.



PatentrezeptI seriously doubt that most members have any clues about what they are spouting as this is just part of being in the insular world of the cult. What is always funny is to read encounters between people in the real world who know something about a subject and the cult. The usuall post is that they would see a LYMster on campus using big words to impress a naive student and then they would question them. It always end with the LYMster calling the person a fascist or some other insult, sorta of like how "laroucheisright does.



To the members, being able to recite something from Lyn without actually having to known it is very easy when there are no consequences for being a fool. After all, your only correcting mechanism is either a fellow serf of the local leader. I very vividy recall a moment in the office when the NC got off of the phone with the NEC conference call and called the phone team together. "The bond market just collapsed, proving that Lyn is right about the collapse and we need to raise more money".



I was getting ready to get out of this asylum and was viewing this as someone who goofily thought that I joined something which was supposed to be run by master economists instead of the fools in front of me. The yields in certain bonds went down at the same time that junk bond interest rates were rising to attract buyers. Investors were putting their money into stocks as CD rates were declining. The past year we had pretty good yields on bond funds as people exited stocks. EIR was being sold as an economics Bible instead of the worthless crap it was. Maybe you had some spook news and a few tidbits from making thousands of calls each day around the world, but this was a massive delusion with the Larouche-Rieman forecasting machine as the lead item where no one could actually tell what it is!



Nothing has changed over the decades as the hook for the members is that they too can be as smart as Lyn by knowing some names and talking jibberish non stop while someone else nods in aggreement. You can skip years and years of studying and school and lead the world wide takeover for Lyn by being able to say something with a new word attached or with a picture of whomever is the new enemy as Hitler. Do this at a card table shrine or chained like veal to a boiler room for three or four decades and you pretty much sum up your life in the LC/LYM.



Take a look at this site to see an example of how this cheap parlor trick works on the naive.



http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us



The LYM member asks a question to Lyn about "Energy Flux Density" and see how the answer becomes Larouchefied into cultism where you do not need to study the history of Physics or Maxwell or others or magnetic fields etc. If you do, according to Lyn, you are damaged like all of those people out there who call your cult bluffs daily.



Everything becomes cult contaminated by Lyn and the result is that whatever a member may know which is correct, will be tinged by the lunacy. Read about how Lyn talks about energy flux density and why you must have nuclear power, or the human race perishes. The issue is not the nuclear power plant, but the apacolyptic lunacy so that IF you do not support nuclear power, then you are an enemy of the human race and a 100 times worse then Hitler. What Lyn is writing is nonsense since the final product of the power source is the electricity to be sent somewhere. When you flip a switch, the source is immaterial as along as the voltage, supply and current is up to your needs. I work with equipment that takes current from the local utility and uses transformers to up the voltage by thousands of times to do what it has to do. The machinery does not care if the source was oil, gas, coal, solar, hydro, wind or nuclear as long as it is constant and priced correctly.



We read this idiot (Lyn) now blabbing about natural gas as a lowered ordered chemical source of power being inferior to a nuclear generated KW. You can take the gas and us it in a fuel cell and that changes the efficiency. Instead of using real world physics and math Lyn tells the cult to ignore what the real world works by dollars and cents and to use 'Higher orders of Power"! The essence of being in the cult is to be like Lyn where you flunk out of every subject and substitute "hidden and secret knowlege" of the elites, which only Lyn has the mastery of.



This is cult 101 over the centuries.



Now we find that Lyn tells this sap in the LYM that you can only mass desalinate with a nuclear power plant because of the energy flux denity. WTF, there are over 25,000 desalination plants world wide. You can go on GE's web site and order the biggest desalination plant you want. About a dozen or more nuclear power plants are used in Japan, India and Russia for this. But wait a minute, what is used is the heated water used for cooling which can be then used in different desalination equipment.



The largest plant in the world I think is in Saudi Arabie and is gas fired. These are hybrid systems being developed with the invention of reverse osmosis filtering and tinier membrane filtering. The next leap in desalination is with nano tube technology. The USA has a big plants in Tampa and San Diego, both using the cooling water from conventional fired plants. Do you think Lyn has a clue as to what to do with the brine discharge and how it has to be treated before being released? All of this is just for the consumption by the members or this Larouche Jabroni who will not question the mish mash and ooh and ahhh over the cheap parlor trick on the naive.



Easy answers for easy minds.



larouche Palooza 2010!



-Here we find something silly in the son of Ronald Regan, Ron Reagan being asked about the Hitler signs at Tea Party rallies! If only he had a clue as to how many dirty tricks we did to try to impress him.



http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...127143438.aspx


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However, the younger Reagan spoke for his father on HLN’s Jan. 26 “The Joy Behar Show.” Host Joy Behar asked Reagan what his father would have thought about the modern tea party movement.



“What would your father say about these tea partiers Ron, do you think?” Behar asked.



According Reagan, his father, a conservative icon wouldn’t have looked upon them favorably and he cited “Hitler signs” as why. However, the signs that show Barack Obama as Hitler paraded out on MSNBC every time the network does a tea party segment often come from supporters of Lyndon LaRouche, a left-wing fanatic.



“Oh, I think he would be unamused by the tea partiers with their Hitler signs and all the rest of it. No, I don’t think he’d be cottoning to that much at all,” Reagan replied.


-Justice works slowly at times as we have some Duggan coverage here. Gee, why does the cult tell the LYMsters that the media is not covering Lyn when this paper has asked for an interview for 7 years?



http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/content/cam...A39%3A00%3A827



http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/4...o_son_s_death/



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Golders Green mother wins right for inquest into son's suspicious death


THE Attorney General has apologised to a Golders Green mother for denying her request for a new inquest into her son's death.

Baroness Scotland has overturned her previous decision and allowed Erica Duggan, 63, to apply to the High Court for a second inquest into the mysterious death of her 22-year-old son Jeremiah.

The body of the Jewish student was discovered on a motorway in Wiesbaden on March 27, 2003, the same day he had earlier attended an anti-war event organised by the Schiller Institute.

A German inquest ruled he killed himself, but this was subsequently overruled by Hornsey coroner Dr William Dolman, who found he had been in a “state of terror” when he died.

Dr Dolman said the prospect of a suicide verdict was "impossible", but the Attorney General originally refused to allow another inquest on the grounds there was insufficient evidence.

In her letter to Mrs Duggan last week, Baroness Scotland wrote: "I offer my apology for the adminstrative failings within my office that meant your application had to be reconsidered.

"I regret your application was not properly dealt with when it was first submitted and the delays and angst the process to remedy those failings has caused you and your family.

"I have granted my fiat because I am of the view on reconsidering your application that there are unanswered questions from the inquest into Jeremiah's death as to whether the fatal injuries he suffered are in fact attributable to a car accident."

Mrs Duggan is convinced her son died as a result of his involvement with right-wing activist Lyndon LaRouche, whose ideas inspired the Schiller Institute.

German police said Mr Duggan was fatally injured after running into the path of two oncoming cars in 2003, but the coroner's pathologist said Mr Duggan's injuries were consistent with being beaten around the head.

The original inquest heard Mr Duggan phoned his mother Erica shortly before he died, saying: "Mum, I'm in big trouble."

He also phoned his girlfriend, telling her: "They do experiments on human beings, with computers and magnetic waves."

Speaking to the Times Series, Mrs Duggan said: "After seven years it is good to get an apology. It is clear when the Attorney General made her original decision she did not have access to all the relevant documents, such as my witness statement.

"On the one hand I'm terribly pleased that she has reconsidered her decision and has been courageous enough to say sorry, but on the other hand it is very frustrating that we've had to wait so long to get justice.

"I just hope now there won't be any other failures and we will finally get what we want."

The case is due to go in front of the High Court in six weeks and a decision is expected within the year.


-Glen M checks in .

http://www.minnesota912.com/blog/?p=98



-Lyn gets a small mention here in a book review.

http://www.theworldismycountry.org/a...iberal-fascism


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To name but one: actual fascist ideologues like Lyndon LaRouche gain tremendously from calling liberal democrats “fascists,” and Goldberg’s handful of caveats will do little to dispel his catchy semantic elision “liberal fascists.” In fact, it has been part of LaRouche’s shtick for years – calling his enemies “fascists”, seeking to invert the term for his own prejudices and political purposes – despite running for president on the Democratic ticket (!) no less than nine times. The political cult’s campaign against “Green fascism” (381ff) is but one longstanding example amongst many. Unlikely bedfellows, perhaps. But no less an ideological conflation and historical caricature than Goldberg’s wholly unrecognizable portrait of what is, and must remain, an oxymoron for the perverse formulation “liberal fascism.”


-Anger at the cult's stinkbombing of the Tea Party?

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/sh...php?p=13826941



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Originally Posted by syringa
No kidding. Every party has people who claim membership in it that strays form the "norm". How many democrats here would like it if they were only associated with Lyndon LaRouche who claims to be a democrat?


LaRouche huh? LOL I don't know of one Dem that ever supported LaRouche or the hogwash he spews. Much like I'm quite sure the most Repubs don't support Rev. Moon and his hogwash.


-Somewhere in this Scientology thread is our cult.


http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-me...rged-60161/69/


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laugh at him for the same reason I laugh at birthers or the LaRouche people ( yes they're still out there doin their thing),


-The death of Howard Zinn brings on some mentions of Lyn for descriptive purposes.

http://deanesmay.com/2010/01/28/howard-zinn-rip/



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Sadly, there are people who still take his work seriously, although one suspects that within another generation or two he’ll be as curious and obscure a figure as Lyndon LaRouche or Pat Buchanan: once interesting to a few, but utterly irrelevant to the future........................

the fact is that Zinn’s politics are about as zany as anything out of the LaRouchies, the Buchananites, the John Birchers, the Pat Robertsons, and so on


-People are funny. Here the talk is about FDR.

http://reason.com/blog/2010/01/28/fd...s-dont-apply-t

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John Tagliaferro|1.28.10 @ 10:39AM|#
He used to invite Lyndon Larouche to the White House movie theater for private screenings.


-The web allows any one to look into the cult and Lyn and do their own reports.

http://davefromqueens2.blogspot.com/...man-being.html

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Friday, January 15, 2010
Lyndon LaRouche Is A Terrible Human Being
I have a blog entry in the works, but it needs to be tidied up. (on edit- the new entry appears before this one, because blogspot gave its date as the one from the roughdraft) In the meantime, I'd like to present some info on Lyndon LaRouche, one of the most dangerous men in the world. I've been working on putting together a piece on the Ted Gunderson & Michael Aquino satanic panic psyop. Yes, I believe those two have been in cahoots. On the surface, that appears to be ridiculous. Ted has been supposedly fighting against satanic ritual abuse, while Aquino has been alleged to have been behind a lot of it.

Basically I stumbled across Lyndon LaRouche's part in that scam. That entry should be available in the next couple days. Here, I'd like to throw together a few links on LaRouche, and just let you the good readers know that this guy's pawprints are all over the internet. It needs to be brought to the world's attention, that this man is one of the biggest scumbags of all time and a constant threat to world peace.


A great source to check out is lyndonlarouche.org put together by Dennis King. A copy of his book LYNDON LAROUCHE AND THE NEW AMERICAN FASCISM can be read here.



I am starting to see that this man is well-connected to CIA and other intelligence agencies. I see he had an influence on Ronald Reagan. I'm seeing o'plenty. I advise you to check into this. I am an unpaid blogger. I can't do the world's homework for everyone. I'm simply saying this guy smells like a kingfish of rats. Don't let the exterior of kookiness fool you. This guy has real power and connections. He's reeking of being the Karl Rove of internet fakes.

There is something referred to as right woos left. It's insidious. What you end up seeing are people purporting to be lefties and progressives, but not acting like them. They support the holocaust denier President of Iran. Sorry, I'm not even gonna try to spell the name. These are people who demonize the soldiers more than the military industrial complex. They call for big brother cameras in urban areas. They tell us not to worry about the specifics of which socio-economic groups are being hit worst by the downturn in the economy. They say we are all in trouble. They say that Richard Nixon was our last liberal President. They speak of global conspiracy theory. That is code for Jewish bankers. They call our President Obushma. They compare Obama to Hitler. That's odd, because that is precisely a meme that LaRouche himself has tried to sell. They link to websites which admire Lenin, not John Lennon. They link to right wing rag websites like Mike Rivero's What really Happened and Alex Jones' Prison Planet. They call anyone who points out the blatant anti-semitism contained within their conspiracy chatter freeper trolls or working for GIYUS.

We can actually link Jones and Rivero to Lyndon LaRouche through Webster Tarpley. Fake lefties may not mention him too often, but they sure sound like him. Everything is a false flag. The democratic uprising in Iran? According to them it was created by the CIA. I see that Tarpley did some work for the Italian government on the assassination of Prime Minister Aldo Moro. Apparently, according to Tarpley that murder was at the hands of Masons with the consent of Italian Secret Service. Hmmm.

Tarpley has also worked for The Genesis Communications Network. Alex Jones and Michael Rivero work for them also. I don't think this is a coincidence.

Tarpley has also written for LaRouche's propaganda, conspiracy rag called the Executive Intelligence Review.

Back in the 80's and 90's, Tarpley was the President of the American version of the Schiller Institute.

I just got done watching a BBC report on a tragic death tied to the German Schiller Institute. It appears that LaRouchites may have killed a promising student visiting from England and France, because he didn't want anything to do with their mind control cult. It appears he may have lost his life, because he's Jewish.

Internet disinfo has been figured out. I don't doubt that for one moment. Most people just use the internet to catch up on stocks, sports, send some emails. For those of us who have spent more time devoted to the net than that, it has become fairly clear what a stinking cesspool it is. Yours truly here has had convoluted cybersmear scripts put in place against me for simply pointing out the obvious, while backing it up with proof along with a number of exclusive finds through cybersleuthing.

I'm someone who was targeted, because I'm not in favour of Israel's policies towards the Palestinians. I am also a true lefty peacenik who can smell fakes who try to spin themselves as such. People like LaRouche and the rest have thoroughly contaminated the internet's ability to be a force for positive social change. This can be called muddying the waters or creating limited hangouts and rabbit holes. I see it as tinfoil by association.



The Justice For Jeremiah Campaign (with compelling new evidence)


Jeremiah Duggan



Jeremiah Duggan's death and Lyndon LaRouche -
BBC - Feb 12, 2004 (16 min):

Posted by socrates at 11:58 PM
4 comments:


the_last_name_left said...
Hi S.

All I could remember about this LaRouchie episode was a dude had died - in suspicious circumstances, and laRouche organisation was coming under suspicion.......

Everything I looked at around LaRouche turned into murkiness....... I never reached any definite conclusions, other than LaRouche was worth avoiding and that he's "murky" as hell.

He's another convicted criminal who claims charges against him were politically motivated, right?

And try reading his interminably dull, and long essays? Do they make any sense? And his sickening egoism? ick.

hopefully you can bring some light to the subject....

good luck. ;)

January 16, 2010 9:17 AM


socrates said...
Thanks for the post.

I'm not sure how much there is to figure out. It seems like there is plenty of info out there already putting LaRouche in his disinfo place.

One discouraging thing I found was the allegation that the October Surprise story was manufactured by the LaRouchies. I just don't have enough time to figure everything out. As an unpaid blogger, I do what I can.

If you go to the Jeremiah Duggan website, check out the new compelling evidence link. The autopsy reports showed that Jeremiah had pockets of blood in his body that seemed to be explained by fists and boots.

So it looks like the kid got beat on by LaRouchies and escaped and kept running for four or five kilometers. He ended up getting hit by cars. While it seems impossible to prove who hit him with the vehicles, there seems to be plenty of evidence to show he was compelled to take actions that led to his death. It also appears that he was beat on for refusing to participate in their cult and for being Jewish.

I would suggest to folks interested in cybersleuthing LaRouche to figure out his ties to higher ups in governments and intelligence agencies. Then that could show psyops are being conducted on American citizenry through the internet. The law states that intelligence is not allowed to do that. If it can be proven, beyond a case like Hal Turner's, this will become a huge story. I think it will be eventually proven. I just don't know when or how.........


-Now Harley is from the "Larouche Foundation"? Is Lyn ready to kick the bucket?

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2010/0...eagle-md-aaem/



-The true impact of the cult to most people.

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showt...php?p=13380624



Quote:

Elldren wrote:
visiblehowl wrote:
Ah, the LaRouche *******s.

I remember I was at a meeting of the Bruin Democrats and one of those guys came in and started ranting about how the DNC had screwed over LaRouche, but doing it in a really passive-aggressive way. He would ask questions like "Why do you think the DNC refused to allow LaRouche to participate in the something-or-other in 1997, which caused [terrible thing to happen for LaRouche]?" in the middle of a discussion about what fundraisers we were going to do that year.

How does this guy develop a cult of personality like that? that's insane.

Yeah I just read the wiki on him. Scary stuff. Makes me wonder how messed up the followers must be to fall for it.


-Here is an election where Lyn WON!

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/babalon...r-/post:113167



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Obama is Hitler?
6 votes

yes!
1 vote


no! those larouche bags should die!
5 votes
-More Mass Strike victories at Safeway card table shrines.

http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=3637

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While I was running my errands this afternoon I saw some folks with a card table on the sidewalk outside Safeway on 15th and there was a photo of Obama hanging off the table with a Hitler mustache. I didn't have time to stop and find out what they were up to - does anyone know? Is it the LaRouche people again? ..................



Sounds like it......................



Who exactly are the LaRouche people? ..........................



Lyndon LaRouche



Douche-baggery is prevalent in their psyche..................



I usually have to steer clear of those tables because my husband loves to get into it with them. Ugh..................



Larouchies are nuts, basically a political cult......................


-Same thing buried in here.



http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showt...php?p=13380226


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But the real crazies are the LaRouche nutjobs. Seattle is infested with them. .... There's a LaRouche guy who camps out on Market street by the Constitution
-Here we have some real delusions by a Larouche Jabroni at God Like. In the Kooky world of Larouche, there is no knowledge of the dozens of high speed rail advocates, mass transit advocates, lobbbying by the industry, TRAINS magazine or the thousands of media articles about high speed rail for the USA. For the people who are or will be studying how intensive cults can be, this is a clinical winner for your research.



http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage976210/pg1

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Re: WTF !! OBAMA ANNOUNCE 13 LINES OF HIGH SPEED TRAINS !! Quote

This is the LaRouche plan.
Obama is trying to appease his detractors because he knows this idea is being pushed onto the right by LPAC.

LPAC is a left-leaning organization, BTW.
This is just a political move on Obamas part.

Watch this video. It's an hour.
Then you get what's really going on.

This is a serious documentary so stupid people with A.D.D. don't even bother watching it.


-This appeared in a forum.

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MOGADISHU — Somalia's Islamist insurgents on Thursday banned video games, one of the last forms of entertainment left for local youth, arguing they were destroying the country's social fabric.

Locals speculated that the warlords wanted to encourage youth to join the war machine - "The more they are prevented from playing, the more likely they are to join the fighting," one said.

http://www.plime.com/l/138277-related/1/


prompting this.

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official testimony before the commission investigating the Virginia Tech massacre, a representative of fringe political figure Lyndon LaRouche called for banning violent games in the same way that heroin is banned. The witness also testified inaccurately on several issues and cited game critics like Jack Thompson and David Grossman.

The fun part is that we see how the cult cracks open a bottle of Connecto to try to win some money for the targeted demographic. The funnier part is knowing that poor Don Phau who was on TV for this and mocked endlessly by the gamer community was once a big shot in the LC and went to prison for Lyn with a smile. He does not play video games with some kids because ......well, the ex wife had the good sense to leave this lunacy . After three or four decades of loyal work for Lyn including prison, Don should have a lot to say about how Lyn took care of his health care last year. if you want to see a real victim of the cult and how Lyn can ruin your prime years and take away your life, just think of Don. You should have listened to that Beatles song "All you need is Love" instead of Lyn's version of "All you need is hate" son. It is truly sad to see what has happened to Don and how so much of his life has been expended in keeping a mad man happy who took, took and then discarded what was left.


-NJ Larouche Jabroni.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_publicblog/20...ma_played.html

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peeltheonion- "Statesman?" Wouldn't "convicted felon" or "ex-convict" be more accurate

-Now here is a first. We find Lyn mentioned in a thread about Bin Laden as an insult to Bin Laden.


http://volokh.com/2010/01/29/a-real-eco-terrorist/



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zuch says:
Hitler was a vegetarian.

PETA members are vegetarian.

Therefore, all PETA members are Nazis.

Q.E.D.

That’s just the first mistake here. bin Laden’s opportunism is similar to the insidious campaigns of Lyndon LaRouche and his merry band of nutters as supposed “Democrats”.

Cheers,.................................



egd says:
zuch: That’s just the first mistake here. bin Laden’s opportunism is similar to the insidious campaigns of Lyndon LaRouche and his merry band of nutters as supposed “---Republicans”.


-Howie has another post which mentions some of what is one the King site and here. There is a lot on the King site just posted to read and I did not have enough time to get it together.



http://www.struat.com/election/2010/...e-of-ladouche/


I will say this about what is on the King site about the EIR release by Lyn about Duggan



There is no limit to Lyn's sickness and how cold blooded the cult is.



I have to question if the grace of God just kept me a nobody in the LC for all of those years. There are numerous stomach turning moments I went through which to others was just business as usual. The popular line for members as told by the NCs was that we all needed to be like Lyn! In my delusional days, I imagined that to be that one would have a mastery of all subjects and be able to link everything in a sort if unified theory of the globe to answer all of my interests and questions. It seemed like that was what I was after and the LC gave you a sort of quick pass to that nirvana without having to really study, work or face someone who actually knows what they were talking about.



What happened as the years went by was something which stabbed me in the heart over and over. I found that whatever the LC was doing beyond rasing money was creating a very hard core cultism of cold blooded hatred of what was not us. No one knew any field outside of the LC and Lyn. You did not disagree with the names printed in our publications, you had to hate them for their role in killing humanity. You could justify anything in the LC as long as it led to our imaginary world of Lyn where the MAGLEV's run on time. There was a way to link to everything to this and if a member did not do enough, he or she was weak. We turned on our contacts to steal from them and laugh about it while later denying that we did anything wrong. The only emotional connection I had was to some fellow members whom I have known for many years. Even then you could see the changes as they too were undergoing a never ending stress of insanity which screwed up their lives.



Years ago, some LYMsters said I was too weak for the LC and could not handle the pressure. They were right. I could not handle the never ending abuse and destruction of people I was witnessing first hand. There was always this sort of boundry I knew existed that I would have to cross to be like the others.



Who knows what we will be finding out next about what we did and what Lyn was supporting. Today I was reading about how the president of Argentine has ordered the release of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents involving the Military government's program of eliminating undesirables from the mid 1970s to 1983. Argentina was one of favorite places at the time. We used to organise around the Rio De Plata region as being the bread basket for the world. During the Malvinas war. there was nothing that was ever wrong in Argentina. They were at war with the British and I can still recall NEC member Warren H telling us the latest update from Lyn and his war advisors about how Britain would be defeated so easy. How easy it was to praise the Argentina govt back then and write about Peron as a humanist to call up for EIR subs.





xlcr4life@hotmail.com

eaglebeak 01-30-2010 04:50 PM

Shameless, Shameful
 
Speaking of Dennis King's website and its posting concerning LaRouche's latest rant against Jeremiah Duggan and his family http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larouche-google-news.pdf--

I think it's useful to reprint in full that "press release"—principally to give a flavor of Lyn's viciousness and industrial-strength dishonesty, and secondarily to convey exactly how Alz the old heimer has gotten. While you're working on decoding the syntax, I'll be counting up the number of times he uses the word "relevant."


A Crucial Slant on the David Kelly Case

By Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.


Jan. 28 (EIRNS)—So far, the British parties involved in the somewhat celebrated affair of suspected links between both the deaths of Dr. David Kelly and what has been fraudulently represented as the alleged non-suicide of Jeremiah Duggan, have failed to disclose crucially relevant facts respecting the subject's, Jeremiah Duggan's, relevant mental health history since childhood until his suicide in the vicinity of Wiesbaden, Germany.

The British circles have curiously failed to take into account statements reportedly made by Jeremiah himself shortly before his suicide, to the effect that he was having difficulty in securing some medication essential to his mental stability. Even without such information, the facts of the manner of Duggan's death, strongly indicate a mental health problem. Where is the relevant British investigation of the matter of the suicide of Jeremiah Duggan? What of such relevant facts as his reported statements regarding past emotional disturbances dating from his childhood, and indicating a role of the London Tavistock Clinic at some point in this case? Are there not additional areas of investigation of Jeremiah's mental health status absolutely required for judgment in a case in which relevant eyewitnesses have presented reported facts confirming three separate acts of attempted suicide, in quickly repeated succession?

Since the core of the utterances from British sources have stubbornly asserted falsified facts on relevant matters in the case, facts repeatedly shown to have been false to established facts, is there not a clear and strong suggestion that there is a connection between the dubious finding of suicide in the case of Dr. David Kelly, and the fraudulent denial of well-documented eyewitness evidence of the actually suicide of Jeremiah? Is not my appearance twice on the BBC broadcasts in the matter of Prime Minister Tony Blair's lying pretext for launching war against Iraq, as this fact of the matter was emphasized by Dr. Kelly, the primary area of fact bearing on Erica Duggan's launching what has been a largely fraudulent campaign against me, launched by important associates of Blair in the setting of the death of Dr. Kelly, of the highest relevance in the behavior of certain British circles in the strange role of Erica Duggan?

If that evidence respecting such highly relevant matters as the strongly implied mental health problems of Jeremiah Duggan, is not supplied by the relevant British sources, then, in light of already clearly established facts, is it not clear that the political motives of those British interests pushing the denial of Jeremiah's suicide, must be called into question in this matter, especially in any case, such as the case of the Duggan suicide, in which the issue of the lying by former Prime Minister Tony Blair, on the subject of launching a war against Iraq, is the crucial setting of the crafting of what has already been shown to have been a politically motivated, fraudulent allegation?

What It Means

In this brief release, LaRouche manages to hurl more vitriol at Jeremiah Duggan and his mother Erica than normal people could credit.

The constant mutterings about Jeremiah's "strongly implied mental health problems" are slanderous and libelous. What possesses LaRouche to say, and then repeat in print, so many falsehoods about so many people?

Here, of course, the reason is obvious: LaRouche is terrified that Erica Duggan's recent success in court in Britain will reopen the case of Jeremiah Duggan's death--something which could have vast consequences for LaRouche and his organization.

We know LaRouche has lawyers--one thing he can always afford, as has been demonstrated again recently in a Kronberg case hearing, where Lyn et al. were represented by a phalanx of lawyers.

All the more strange, then (given that he has lawyers), that he should actually print something like this: "Even without such information, the facts of the manner of Duggan's death, strongly indicate a mental health problem."

In other words, even if everything LaRouche has said about Jeremiah's "mental health problems" is untrue--the details concerning the circumstances of his death show that he had such a problem.

But wait! The "facts of the manner of Duggan's death" are precisely what's at issue. Is LaRouche saying he knows what those facts are?

This has always been the central conundrum: The organization has insisted that it had nothing to do with Jeremiah's death, but has mobilized internationally--frantically--to prevent a reopening of the case. The obvious question is: why such a frenzy?

The organization has veered between denying knowledge of the circumstances of Duggan's death, on the one hand, and on the other, insisting it was suicide. Again, if the organization had nothing to do with it: why insist it was suicide?

How do they know?

Who are these "eyewitnesses" LaRouche refers to who "have presented reported facts confirming three separate acts of attempted suicide, in quickly repeated succession"?

If someone tried to commit suicide—three times—in front of you, wouldn’t you act to stop it?

And what is LaRouche talking about when he writes, "Where is the relevant British investigation of the matter of the suicide of Jeremiah Duggan?"?

What he sees looming ahead of him is precisely the relevant British investigation into the death of Jeremiah Duggan, and the reason for that investigation is that the responsible authorities are dissatisfied with the conclusion of suicide.

Now they wish to ascertain how, in fact, he died.

As for the David Kelly red herring? This is typical of the LaRouche fog machine--David Kelly and Jeremiah Duggan both died in 2003. Both were British. Both were officially said to have committed suicide. Therefore, obviously, to the mind of an unwell man, they must be connected.

As for the details of the "connection"? Wheels within wheels.

earnest_one 01-30-2010 11:57 PM

Duggan and Tennenbaum
 
One and All:

Jonathan Tennenbaum was one of two LaRouche representatives that met with Erica and Hugo Duggan shortly after Jeremiah died, when they traveled to Wiesbaden.

To my knowledge he was assigned this "job" because, formally, he is Jewish and on occasion he can sound semi-sane and at least pretend to act like a human being. This put him in "the upper 20% of family personality brackets" in the LaRouche organization.

My understanding of his role is that, at minimum, he was responsible for dealing with the Duggans and, more to the point, he was probably assigned the role of figuring out what really happened. Then he could help formulate plans/ploys/ways to handle "the problem". Surely, he served as a conduit of intelligence information--a one-way conduit. Without question he told his bosses, Lyndon and Helga LaRouche, everything that happened during his meetings and conversations with the Duggans.

I doubt he was DIRECTLY involved in Jeremiah's death, but I would bet my left testicle that he knows more about what REALLY happened then virtually anyone else.

Now, everyone who has read this board for the past year or two knows my views on all the "relevant" topics, but one issue continues to escape me:

Why hasn't more attention been focused on Jonathan Tennenbaum and his role in the Duggan coverup?

He is the obvious person to concentrate on here. No? Am I wrong? If so then please, someone, come up with a good counter-argument. I am all ears.

That he is my brother is of zero concern as I am only interested in Truth and Justice. Let the chips fall where they SHOULD fall, and by the grace of God. Quite frankly, it would not bother me if my brother jumped off a bridge. I would not shed a single tear. That is a callous and cold statement, but at this point, I simply do not care. We are ALL brothers and sisters and my view is that our TRUE purpose here on earth is to help others. Blood ties mean little to me and LaRouchian "politics" is simply an emotional plague. Actual relationships mean everything.

In five minutes, Erica Duggan demonstrated more courage, decency, and basic human kindness then my brother has shown me in 33 years.

Again, I suggest that the relevant parties involved should concentrate on Jonathan Tennenbaum. He can either step up and be a man for the first time in his life or he can continue to protect Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr. -- one of the most vicious life-hating a-holes I have ever met.

Golden Souls? Yeah, sure. That is the insane delusion needed to cover up the truth: There isn't enough gold in the universe to fill the empty souls of these monsters.

Peter Tennenbaum January 30, 2010

xlcr4life 02-01-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglebeak (Post 383680)
Speaking of Dennis King's website and its posting concerning LaRouche's latest rant against Jeremiah Duggan and his family http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larouche-google-news.pdf--


As for the David Kelly red herring? This is typical of the LaRouche fog machine--David Kelly and Jeremiah Duggan both died in 2003. Both were British. Both were officially said to have committed suicide. Therefore, obviously, to the mind of an unwell man, they must be connected.

As for the details of the "connection"? Wheels within wheels.



BorisMaglev had a great line about this precise method of Lyn's. When cornered, Lyn releases ink like a squid. The next thing to consider is that this is all for internal consumption, no matter how crazy it reads to the outside world. Lyn has been able to pi$$ ink when needed for gullible members at will. He knows that if you accept him as your master, then you do not question the insanity no matter how many cases of Rhiengau or Connecto were drunk in producing the delusions.


The day you question anything is the day you have become like Dorothy and her friends when they met the Wizard.


For LYM and LYMettes, this is an excellent example of why after spending 330 MILLION dollars and wasting some many lives that the cult is smaller then ever and spinning like a hamster on a wheel. The key item here is that Lyn writes for the internal audience to keep you in the cult. The real world picks up Lyn's ramblings and either laughs at it or sees a small time Hitler,Stalin, Taliban or whatever. YOU end up swallowing this crap hourly and trying to make it appear sanitized to the outside world. When you do find someone who finds something interesting , you forget that they are intererested in a tiny portion, not the whole lunacy or joining a cult.



What I posted a few days ago about Lyn answering a question about Energy Flux Density should give you a clue that it is all cheap parlor tricks for a few hundred to oooh and aahhh while the rest of us laugh. Don't feel bad, it took me a while to figure it out too.



Larouche Palooza 2010!



-What happened here as we had a great tease?


Quote:

China Would Have An Economic Growth Rate of 20% if the...
Clearly the more LaRouche disciples get suckered into citing ... It means you cited a LaRouche site for reasons only known to you and ...


http://www.groupsrv.com/science/post-3525968.html



Quote:

The thread you've requested does not exist.
It was recently removed due to its content!


-The votes for Lyn increase the lead! There are more brains in a Marilyn Manson forum then in the NEC for God's sake!



http://www.nachtkabarett.com/babalon...r-/post:113537



Quote:


Obama is Hitler?
10 votes

yes! 1 vote

no! those larouche bags should die! 9 votes

I'm fully informed/educated and I still think they're idiots for putting those posters up where they did. It's bad marketing on the group's part. They're obviously not planning to recruit anyone with those posters. They're just stirring the pot.


-A new Larouche Jabroni "Linda from NY" showing up in a Chicago blog?


http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/20...ulias-progres/



-Punishment for number 33 of The 50 Most Loathsome Americans, 2009?

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?t=39361



Quote:

Sentence: Hot tub sex with Lyndon LaRouche.

-A Larouche Jabroni in heat on the God Like forum. Didn't Lyn predict a complete collapse in January?



http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage977902/pg1



Quote:

Re: LAROUCHE WEBCAST! Quote


He said some things i certainly did not agree with last time.


like economic collapse by months end
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878581


That is not a direct quote, it's yours, and you know it.

The problem is you see things in black and white, in literal terms.

We are bankrupt, do you question that?

The FED is just postoning the inevitable by printing money.


-It is so funny to how the cult is taking over in their own mind while they get ignored. Lyn can't even get his name spelled right.



http://www.moviehdtrailers.net/?p=887



Quote:

tepstolog on January 26, 2010 at 21:12

Mr. Lindon Larouche , Internationally known economist sure talks about that, and he also has a plan in motion in order to make this important change happen!!! go check his site for more.
“larouche pac”




This is the march to world power which 330 MILLION dollars has created.

Anyone have a review of the latest groundbreaking webcast?


xlcr4life@hotmail.com

howie 02-01-2010 09:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH5XQ843RvU
Did Jim Cramer (never minding his credibility problem, and the tone of his show) say "Queen of England"?

Of some note, here's Jeff Rense with an interview on that old chestnut "The Franklin Scandal".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvj3KJ0-lI&

chator 02-02-2010 07:44 AM

The End of the Obama Administration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xlcr4life (Post 383705)
Didn't Lyn predict a complete collapse in January?

Anyone have a review of the latest groundbreaking webcast?

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

This will be rather brief. I will just focus on those elements of the speech that deal with the stated topic of the speech, The End of the Obama Administration. LaRouche starts off explaining where we're headed and why. "We are headed, right now, into a dark age; without some very radical changes in policy, the planet will go into several generations of a dark age, in which the plans are, on the British side, and similar sides, to reduce the world's population from approximately 6.7 billion people today, to an early arrival at less than 2. That is what's behind the policy of the British, that's what's behind the European policy, that's what's behind the policy of Obama, who is nothing but a British puppet—as I warned you on the 11th of April last year, that this man is a British puppet. He's not really a loyal American in any functional sense. He's a puppet of a foreign, enemy power."

Then he draws a comparison of Obama to Emperor Nero, "He's not particularly intelligent. He's like the Emperor Nero. And if you think of what I said about him, on the 11th of April last year, and described him as a Nero, and think very carefully of what he's done as policymaking, and the way he has reacted to crises, since April 11th of last year to the present time, you know, and are warned, that what you have on your hands is a virtual copy of the Emperor Nero. The real-life Nero of that time sexually assaulted his mother and then killed her; and took his best friend, and it took him four times to successfully kill his best friend. He said the same thing that Obama has said recently, that he's too good for the American people, as Nero said he's too good for the people of Rome." Then he makes a political prediction, "This Obama is finished. He has not been removed, but his utility, his survival in the Presidency, is very short."

Then, he makes what might be considered a controversial statement, if it were to be taken seriously. No chance of that, this is LaRouche talking, "But in any case, as long as this man controls the United States, there's no chance of the United States continuing to exist, or much of anything."

Then he offers a political analysis of what's happening inside the United States, "Americans don't hate Obama very much: They despise him. Because they don't think he's really responsible. They're willing to accept the fact that they've got a President who is a pig, or whatever Obama really is; they're willing to admit that. But what they hate—you know, you hate the member of your family who's gone against you, more than you hate the outsider. Obama, for the American population generally, is an outsider. He can't betray you, because he never was part of you. The hatred of the American citizen, by and large, is directed against the members of Congress, who support Obama! You saw that clearly in the Massachusetts vote, recently, on the replacement of the deceased Senator Kennedy. The hatred of the people out there is against the members of Congress who support Obama. They hate what they consider their friends, their representatives, who have betrayed them to the enemy, to the outsider Obama! This process has taken the form of a mass strike, which became clear in August of last year. People came out, at these town hall meetings, so-called, they came out in masses, and they said to the members of Congress, "Shut up! We want to tell you something, you stupid jerk! You betrayed us! You're supporting policies that would kill us! We don't like you any more! But we want you do the right thing, for a change." The people are no longer thinking of screaming at the guys who are supposed to represent them, and saying, "Now, do the right thing." They're saying, "We want you out!" They want the elected members of Congress to disappear! Especially, the Democratic members of the Congress, they want them gone! They look at the members of the Congress as either criminals, or stinking cowards—weaklings, foolish weaklings. They hate them! And you see that they're dropping like flies. They still are voting for Obama on this and that piece of legislation, but the people out there, hate them." In Sum, the American people hate Congress for supporting Obama, who is an outsider, or foreign enemy, or whatever. This analysis doesn't really explain why Obama was overwhelmingly voted into office a little more than a year ago. But it does play up to the hopes the cult candidates have of being able to capture a seat in Congress, the mass strike will help them get elected.

Then he explains how Obama will be removed from office, he and his organization will make it happen! "We must have Obama removed from the Presidency. We don't have to remove everybody in the Presidential team; we just simply take out Obama, and those people who are prototypes, the so-called behaviorists. We have to get rid of Bernanke. We have to get rid of Geithner. You have to get rid of all these people of the team—you have to get Rahm Emanuel out of there, get his brother out of medicine before he kills more people, and so forth. You have to take that particular element, inside the Presidential institutions, and get rid of them. Go! Scat!"

That's all he really says that relates to the stated topic, everything else is memory relapses into the past, a recount of history through a LaRouchican perspective, and a rehash of current proposals the organization wants on the table; the 4-power agreement, nuclear power, space exploration, bankruptcy reorganization, a credit system, putting people to work at productive jobs, etc.

So there you have it, the survival of the United States depends on Obama's early retirement, asassination, or impeachment. Quite a task he's given his organiztion, Get rid of the constitutional elected President, or you, your family, and country won't live much longer!

It's funny LaRouche didn't make the slightest mention of his failed January surprise prediction of a total collapse of everything. You would think if he took his own predictions seriously, he would be trying to explain why things didn't exactly pan out as he'd indicated. I guess one of the fringe benefits of being a cult leader is not having to be accountable to anyone for the things you say. I'm guessing the January surprise prediction was just a cheap parlor trick to get people to come back from their families following the holidays, or to prevent them from being tempted to leave the organization during the time the cult has to worry the most about members leaving. The LPAC cult candidates is another example of a parlor trick or scam to keep people interested and working for the organization. Except this one is aimed at the younger members, and supporters outside the organization. This too is another phantasm, that won't go anywhere.

xlcr4life 02-03-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chator (Post 383716)
...........................So there you have it, the survival of the United States depends on Obama's early retirement, asassination, or impeachment. Quite a task he's given his organiztion, Get rid of the constitutional elected President, or you, your family, and country won't live much longer!

It's funny LaRouche didn't make the slightest mention of his failed January surprise prediction of a total collapse of everything. You would think if he took his own predictions seriously, he would be trying to explain why things didn't exactly pan out as he'd indicated. I guess one of the fringe benefits of being a cult leader is not having to be accountable to anyone for the things you say. I'm guessing the January surprise prediction was just a cheap parlor trick to get people to come back from their families following the holidays, or to prevent them from being tempted to leave the organization during the time the cult has to worry the most about members leaving. The LPAC cult candidates is another example of a parlor trick or scam to keep people interested and working for the organization. Except this one is aimed at the younger members, and supporters outside the organization. This too is another phantasm, that won't go anywhere.


Chator good summary of both the webcast and how the cult operates. Lyn can basically look forward to another 7 years of keeping the LYMsters spinnning their wheels if Obama wins another term. By then, the first crop of LYM and LYMettes will be made into the new enemy of Lyn in keeping him from ruling the universe. Lyn has pretty good genes for a longer life and endless health care, unlike say Don P for example.


For the current bomers in the LC, they have been so destroyed that they can not seem to see that this is the same broken record of Lyn from the 1970s and on. I do not know about many of you, but I find it depressing to see some members whom I have known from at least 35 and years ago still being serfs while mouthing the same program with different villians. For the researchers into cult life under Lyn, it is a clinical study in how a few dozen or so leftovers follow the same mad man who just replaces one villain with another and has the same basic plot composed of.

Nuclear War

Economic Collapse

New Dark Ages

I mention depressing only if you knew those people when they were very young and how much talent they had and how they ended up. The early 1980s meeting with Lyn in the NYC Sutton Place Town House was where Lyn basically told members that THEY will never leave the card table shrines. By golly, there are several who have made Lyn's prophecy come true today.



Larouche Palooza 2010!


-The mass strike hits Boston and Rachel Brown is well on her way to the DC House. This is Teabagging vs Carpetbagging.


http://datechguy.wordpress.com/2009/...n-tea-parties/

Quote:

There was a single LaRouchite passing out literature. I turned it down but a few people took it.


http://datechguy.wordpress.com/2010/...strikes-again/

Quote:

In any crowd you are going to have some crazy uncles. At the Boston Tea Party there were a few Ron Paul guys, at least two LaRouche guys and one vulgar sign about Barney Frank that I think crossed the line.

It added up to 5-10 guys out of 1000.


-Quite a list here that 330 MILLION dollars has brought you Lyn.

http://openintelligence.amplify.com/...-jive-economy/


Quote:

I wouldn’t want to be mistaken as a shill for the Democratic party, either, since the Obama team has opted for creating its own reality as much as its predecessor bunch did. The result will certainly be the election of countless maniacs to congress this fall, especially of the theocratic-despotic brand — creationists, alien abductees, economics professors from bible colleges, Sunbelt war hawks, Lyndon LaRouche acolytes, Nativists, Palinites, crusaders against the New World Order, anti-Bilderbergers… the whole appalling menu of thought-disorder cases now roiling in the breakdown lane of American history.


-The real use of Larouche is noted here.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...e38db77fd36816


Quote:

Did you git them numbers from a creationist site or a dowser on a
LaRouche site


-Maybe someone here knows this person or can explain this from an Aryan web site. At least Nancy Spannaus gets a mention.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1096755

Quote:

Eric Thomson: Letter to Phil


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

27 NOV 05

Dear Phil: Many thanks for your letters of 22 & 23 NOV! I really appreciate the wisely-selected enclosures, in particular Bob Chapman’s Train Wreck of the Week reports. The LaRouche report has items of interest, which always ignore race & demographics in favor of technical speculation. As I understand from a former “LaRouchey”, “Lyndon H. LaRouche” is a false name used to cover up his real jewish name. As I recall, his first name is Markus, not Lyndon, but I forget the last name. “LaRouche” may have something to do with his Red, Trotskyist past when he headed “The North American Labor Party”. Around the 1970’s, he & his kosher-commie cronies, including Nancy Spannaus et al. put on business suits & suddenly called themselves “conservatives”, much as their fellow jew Reds became Zionists & then “neo-cons”. LaRouchies like to call jews, such as the Rockefellers, Henry Kissinger & others “Nazis”. Spannaus called me a “Nazi”, so by her definition, that would mean I was jewish, just like her! The word, jew, is taboo in LaRouchie vocabulary. Apparently, they do not exist. As Raul Hilberg ‘explained’ in court, under oath: jews may be ‘exterminated’ by identifying them as jews, by ignoring their identity as jews, by concentrating them, by dispersing them, by moving them or by making them stay put. According to his testimony, Hilberg was ‘exterminated’ at least 3 times. As I recall, he was identified once, & he moved twice; one move being to the U.S.A. That means we all must have been ‘exterminated’, too, so we are therefore ‘Holocaust-survivors’. I survived by living in California, instead of Poland during World War II, as did my parents, so we are all Holocaust Survivors! My father survived the sinking of The Titanic, by not being aboard! What a lucky fellow. All jews survived the Holohoax “miraculously”, just as we all did, even if we happened to be Goyim at the time. Ha! The LaRouchies are therefore guilty of genocide, specifically of hebicide, since they have exterminated “jew” from their vocabulary. What the LaRouchies mention about dwindling oil resources & the deterioration of the U.S. inventive & skilled labor force, along with its basic infrastructure, is true, but their ‘solutions’ still advance the pollution & depletion of our environment on behalf of infinite population-expansion. That’s where their jew-cultism sticks its head out of their verbal smokescreens. Savitri Devi summed up Judaism & all its cults, as opposing Man to Nature, rather than viewing Man as part of Nature. Jew-cults include Christinsanity, Communism & Capitalism, all of which behave as if we lived on an infinite planet, on which natural laws do not apply to Man. That’s what all jew-cults have in common: “Man conquers Nature!” A wise observer described the reality as “Man’s war versus The Planet Earth.” If we ‘win’, we lose!............................................. .............................................


Write to:
Mr. Eric Thomson
P.O. Box 896
Yakima, Washington 98907-0896
U.S.A.
-Here is our funny blog of the day post. Somone twitters about the cult and we find a Lyndon Larouche chiming in! Check out the thread.

http://blogs.wickedlocal.com/brookli...-stupid-ideas/

Quote:

colleague just sent me this from the Twittersphere (my god, did I just write that?):

"Some idiot is standing in Coolidge Corner with an Obama as Hitler poster. He is going to be yelled at by so many people."

In the comments section we find this gem.

Lyndon H. Larouche on February 2nd, 2010 10:15 am

Probably devotees of Lyndon Larouche. That “Obama-with-a-Hitler-moustache” poster originated with them. The Larouche Youth Movement sucks in college-aged kids and encourages them to drop out of school and devote their lives to political activism. Recruits are deeply inculcated into a conspiracy-minded crypto-fascist ideology in which everyone and everything is evil except for Larouche. It is closer to a cult than a real political party. Don’t judge these kids too harshly, as many of them have been subjected to intense psychological conditioning.


-No gives a rat's ass about Lyn on this Ron Paul forum.

http://surf4residual.com/1158/ron-pa...serve-hr-1207/


-The cult shows up and leaves while the commentators really do not care.

http://www.philzone.org/discus/messa...tml?1265142390



To sum up

Lyn gave another world historical webcast and after a few days it looks like no one saw it and no one cares if they saw it as they sure do not care about the cult. This makes the analysis by Chator right on the money. The only audience Lyn has after 330 MILLION dollars worth of daily intrusions into people's lives is the immediate cult. That audience may one day notice that you could run any of Lyn's webcasts in any order and peddle them as brand new since the only intent is to keep the tiny sect going.


xlcr4life@hotmail.com

howie 02-05-2010 04:19 AM

Looks like this is a year that a Larouchie might be able to sneak through the cracks in a Dem primary race. Well, it would be in a different condition for the cult.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2...020410.article
Former U.S. Sen. Adlai Stevenson — who formed a third party to run for governor in 1986 rather than share the same ticket as two disciples of Lyndon H. LaRouche — said Gov. Quinn faces the same political reality in dealing with running mate Scott Lee Cohen.

“It would be very difficult for Pat Quinn, in good conscience, to run for governor with this fellow tied to him as if they’re joined at the hip,” Stevenson told the Sun-Times today.

“One answer is to do what I did, namely to resign the nomination and run as an independent with a different lieutenant governor candidate,” he said. “Of course, they can try to talk [Cohen] out of it, but I’m skeptical as to whether that would work.”

Stevenson, who won the Democratic gubernatorial primary in 1986, formed the Solidarity Party rather than run with a LaRouche-backed lieutenant governor candidate, Mark Fairchild.

Stevenson wound up losing the general election to Republican Gov. James Thompson, who got 1.65 million votes to the 1.25 million that went to Stevenson and his Solidarity Party candidacy. Another 208,830 votes were cast for the Democratic governor’s slot that Stevenson vacated.

xlcr4life 02-05-2010 07:49 PM

Howie Amazing that the Lt Gov candidate is viewed in the same fasion as Lyn, has this as just a part of his his life story.



http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...thdrawing.html



Quote:

Gov. Pat Quinn finally won the Democratic governor nomination Thursday, only to find himself trying to dump a running mate who has been accused of abusing women, failing to pay child support and spending lavishly on extramarital affairs.






Larouche Palooza 2010





-Depending on where you stand, this is not exactly the best news to come out of the Nashville Tea Bag convention. go down a nit and you will see that someone posted the video of our very own "Hitler Hippie Chick" Rachel Brown and her short fame as a dining room table with Barney Frank.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2...ng-open-thread



Quote:


Teabagger tells Dylan Ratigan Show that Obama reminds her of Hitler
Posted Feb 4, 2010, 2:21 PM PT by Jed Lewison • First broadcast: Feb 4, 2010

-In Seattle we get a guilty plea bargain from a man who got entangled with the cult.



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss



Quote:


Edmonds man pleads guilty in Obama-as-Hitler poster scuffle
An Edmonds man who was charged with assault and jailed after he confronted two supporters of Lyndon LaRouche over their Obama-as-Hitler poster in September, pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct on Wednesday.

By Lynn Thompson

Seattle Times Snohomish County reporter


An Edmonds man who was charged with assault and jailed after he confronted two supporters of Lyndon LaRouche over their Obama-as-Hitler poster in September, pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct on Wednesday.

Henry Gasparian, 71, who witnessed the horrors of Nazi Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union as a child, and lost a brother and two uncles to the war, agreed to a deferred sentence in Edmonds Municipal Court.

Under the terms of the plea agreement, the case will be dismissed after one year if Gasparian has no further criminal charges, said his lawyer Mike Noah, of Puyallup. Noah volunteered to represent Gasparian after reading an account of his arrest in The Seattle Times.

Gasparian also agreed to pay a $400 fine.

His arrest coincided with the increasingly polarized national debate over health care and attracted widespread media attention and debate over the civility of public discourse and the limits of free speech.

An Armenian immigrant and retired salesman, Gasparian appeared on many radio and TV news broadcasts and said he received letters of support from around the world.

He said he was deeply offended by the association of Obama with Hitler when he approached two Lyndon LaRouche campaign workers at the Edmonds Farmers Market and tried to grab their political literature. The two activists said he grabbed one of their wrists and pushed them repeatedly.

In accepting the plea agreement, Edmonds Municipal Court Judge Douglas Fair told Gasparian that while the Hitler image may have been upsetting, the U.S. Constitution protects even objectionable political speech.

After the court hearing, Gasparian said he still believed he had "done right" in challenging the two LaRouche supporters but was persuaded that a jury could find him guilty of two counts of assault, the original charges against him.

He said he also did not want to raise the memories of his parents, who withstood the hardships of the Nazi occupation, or of the relatives who had died, before a jury of strangers "who might not care who Hitler was."

"I think I did the right thing, but maybe I should not have been so physical," Gasparian said.


-The Larouche Card is played in a critique of NPR.



http://currentlogic.blogspot.com/201...t-wingers.html



Quote:

Instead they continued for another several minutes with their loving portrayal of someone whose only merit is that she is passionate about things about which she is completely ignorant. Nonetheless, the NPR report contained nary a word to indicate the irrationality or ignorance of her thinking. Can a puff piece on Lyndon LaRouche be far behind? I suggest the title, "LaRouche, Not a Typical Troglodyte, Thinks for Himself."


-A problem with a Tea Party member who has "NIggar" on his signs.



http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/dale-ro...riend-of-ours/



Quote:


Dale Robertson= the tea party movement’s Lyndon Larouche.

Like to remind the leftists on this post that Lyndon Larouche is in fact a Democrat yet its his people who are peddling the Obama as Hitler meme. Not only are they peddling it, they are proud of it. Dale seems to be perfectly happy to peddle his racist crap and doesn’t care who is upset.


-Funny and interesting new encyclopedia bio of Lyn on the web!



http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lyndon_LaRouche



Quote:

Lyndon LaRouche

From Encyclopedia Dramatica


Lyndon Hermyleione LaRouche commonly referred to as f*cktard is a crazy Jew who wants to rule the world. His policies have been commonly criticized for being buttf*cking insane. He has been running for president for the last 38 years, unfazed by the fact that all of his attempts so far have been gigantic failure, first as a Socialist Labor candidate, then on the Random F*cktard ticket, and finally as a Democrat, even though they've shown that they'd rather run a nigra named after a terrorist than have anything to do with him. Compare this to the interwebs fueled super-success of Ron Paul. LaRouche also doesn't seem to care that his good ideas have already been used by someone else who didn't do so well after a few years.

His followers tend to be extremist IRL trolls, often engaging in cosplay for absurdist street theater demonstrations and verbally assaulting passersby, shouting nonsense at them about geometry and cold fusion.

His greatest accomplishment in life has been to make Alex Jones look reasonable and respectable. Many think he does this just to sell more of his books.

Despite having been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, LaRouche has established himself as the most successful long-term economic forecaster on the planet, and correctly predicted the 2008 financial crisis.

Unlike most people, who blame the Jews for everything that goes wrong, LaRouche blames the British (but clarifies that the British are actually controlled by Jewish bankers). His blaming he British for everything started when his wife fled from his tender embrace to go live with a Britfag, exclaiming, 'At least Cyril doesn't insist that lubrication is a Bilderberger plot.' He is also willing to give the Democrats a pass despite numerous hilarious things that have happened during the rule of Democratic presidents. It is important to note that while LaRouche trusts the governments completely, his first rule is never trust a businessman since they are all thieving c*nts like him; this is the only thing about which he has ever been right.

He loves FDR even though it is common knowledge among conspiracy theorists that FDR did 12/7 in a failed attempt to invent the weeaboo, in addition to Rosenfeld's family fortune having been made in the opium trade to an extent beggaring the tangential involvement of Queen Elizabeth's, which he takes for solid evidence that she is a major cokewhore.

By the way, more than half the banned people on Wikipedia that then migrated over to a permanent spot as Wikipedia Review Mods that complain about Wikipedia in TL;DR ways were originally banned for being Larouche fanboys.


-The cult really does sing for spare change. Check out this mass strike rally and see the tip bucket as the LYMettes sing.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta6Oj7SgMXg



-So what do the masses think about the cult? Why Lyn is an Emperor!



http://forums.mycathatesyou.com/view...54fc0d7819c78e



Quote:

I was walking by the post office today when a woman with a card table asked "are you ready for impeachment?" I answered a resounding HELL NO! The poster on the table had a picture of Obama with a little Hitler 'stache, and I noticed the name "Lyndon Larouche" at the bottom of it. Even if I wanted Obama out of the White House, I wouldn't want those nutcases in there!.................



Lyndon Larouche"... I should have known. He's the emperor of wingnuttery, be it on the left or the right



-Another member who has mastered the "Larouche Method" in Australia! The whole articel is worth reading for fun.



http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/02/04/...enaud-blazers/



Quote:


Monckton’s Melbourne meeting: a gathering of men in Richie Benaud blazers
by Jeff Sparrow
Outside Lord Monckton’s meeting at the Sofitel Hotel in Collins Street, the young men from Lyndon LaRouche’s Citizen Electoral Council handed out newspapers warning against “Hitler-style genocide”.

“Carbon trading is the British Empire trying to wipe out the nation state,” a LaRouchie explained.

What did they mean?

For the CEC, the theory of human-induced climate change was not merely wrong. It was a lie, a conscious fraud cooked up by, well, Prince Philip, actually, as part of the British Royal Family’s perfidious scheme to depopulate the planet.



But where, one wondered, did that leave Lord Monckton, the man outside whose event the CEC was canvassing? Wasn’t he a British aristocrat? Was he in on the plot, too?

The Larouchie hesitated for a minute.

“You have to realise, they like to confuse people.”


One shouldn’t imply that the CEC was representative of the huge crowds attending Monckton’s tour. That would be unfair. The LaRouchites were much younger, for a start.

Inside Monckton’s Melbourne meeting, most of the attendees looked like Ian Plimer. It was a gathering of men in Richie Benaud blazers, sometimes accompanied by silver-haired wives, dressed up as if for a night at the opera............................................. .............






Afterwards, when the crowd shuffled out, the LaRouchies were still on the street spruiking.

Did they know that Lord Monckton also opposed the New World Order?

They were pleased to hear it.

But what about the Royal seal on all his slides. What did they make of that?

The LaRouchie thought for a moment and then he brightened. “Perhaps he’s an agent,” he said. “Prince Philip has agents all over the world, you know.”






Thank you for reporting this. The more daylight let in on this the better.

Though by the way, I always thought the CEC blamed THE QUEEN for the drug trade and everything else - have they moved on to Philip now? What about Prince William? Where is he in all of this? They’re going to have a ball when Charles is king with all his organic farming and forest preservation etc.





-Jeff Steinberg shows up here in this blog. This chap should know that Jeff sure condones Lyn's views.



http://yahyaottawa.blogspot.com/2010...t-and-cjc.html



Quote:

To discredit my article, Jonathan Kay focused on two (out of 133) citations in my article, claiming that they were by anti-Semites, and that therefore I must agree with the anti-Semitic views of their authors. Those two citations actually have no anti-Semitic content and were appropriate and credible. One is an article by Jerry Steinberg (likely a Jew) which was re-published in Lyndon LaRouche’s Executive Intelligence Review. I cited it because it offered a concise description of the plan by Dick Cheney’s DPG since 1990 to implement a strategy of world conquest after the fall of the Soviet Union. I also cited several other sources which confirm the details in this article. Contrary to Kay’s claims, the article itself had nothing in it about Jews or Israel or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I certainly do not condone the anti-Semitic views of LaRouche.





-Here we find what that 330 million dollars of propogance about Lyn's genius has brought.



http://www.louisvillemojo.com/newfor...=159731&FID=17



Quote:

LaRouche? Messages 1 - 2


posted yesterday @ 1:55 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyone heard of the LaRouche Youth Movement?

I am looking for any stories or anecdotes about the political cult. .............





all i know i learned from wikipedia.

apparently at one point Larouche advocated locking up everyone with AIDS. or maybe it was all the homosexuals...i don't remember.






What have I learned from all of this?



-This Lt Gov candidate in Illinois really has to be horrendous to have our 25 year or so old Illinois victory brought back to life. This is not to praise Cohen LYMsters, but to bury him. The other issue is that Mark Fairchild has been spending his ENTIRE LIFE after that victory at a card table shrine for Lyn.



-The web really is the enemy of Lyn as he gets laughed at daily as a few keystrokes releases the info about him and the cult.



-In my day, "The Larouche Card" was something we claimed tin pot dictators would use to stay in power. Today, if you really want to insult or mock someone, you play "The Larouche Card".



-A joke I made about the cult singing for spare change for Lyn really is true as we see in the YouTube Boston video. Is Rachel Brown in that music video next to the spare change bucket?



-The Autralian cult's coverage should be a fine example of how members have replicated Lyn in their mind. There is a method to the madness and we read it right in front of us in that article. The worst thing for Lyn and the cult is to be asked a question with a camera or note pad present. Maybe future court rooms will bring this all together for us to enjoy further.



Every morning I usually put on a business cable channel to start the day. This past week has had an amazing amount of concern over bubbles in the Chinese economy . I do not think that Lyn has ever said a bad thing about China , their economy ,human rights, environment as long as he gets a few articles in a Chinese paper.



For the LYMand LYMettes and the deadenders left, they do not have a pot to pi$$ in and the one pot that they do have is for spare change.



Have a great Super Bowl weekend.



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

chator 02-06-2010 08:51 PM

Campaign Update 2010
 
There's a new DWTT ("Down With The Traitors") video up here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00hy-tLaOdo

Nothing really too interesting except an interview with the German LYM candidate mentioned by Patentrezept in his last post, and a video of Keesha Rogers addressing a Tea Party meeting. It seems the LYM are really going after the "fringe" republican vote. That should earn them a handful of votes!

In the meantime, the FEC website has new numbers on our LYM candidates:

Keesha Rogers has raised $3,326,

Rachel Brown has raised $1,776, and

Summer Shields has raised $1,345.

It looks like Keesha is beating her fellow LYM in fundraising, good for her. I mentioned earlier that her race was the one to watch given that her Democratic rivals are relatively weak. The filing fee to run as a candidate for the U.S. Congress in Texas is $3,125. So Keesha has actually now covered that cost with $201 left over. But her campaign, so far, with the cost of running the website, sponcering events, producing campaign videos and printing campaign posters, has probably exceeded that number. Meaning that her campaign is probably, so far, a net loss for the LaRouche organization. No matter, if the LaRouche organization is good at one thing, as xlcr has pointed out repeatedly, its at wasting money. If it wasn't being wasted on Keesha, I'm sure they'd find equally hopeless causes to waste it on.

Now let's look at Rachel. She has raised $1,776, but her only Democratic rival, Barney Frank, has raised $1,323,519. Meaning that he has outraised her by about a thousand times. Doesn't look to good Rachel, unless we compare your numbers against those of Summer Shields. He has raised $1,345 to Nancy Pelosi's $1,542,087. This means, she has outraised him by more than a thousand times! Where are all those mass strikers? If they gave you ten dollars each wouldn't you, at least, be equal with your Democratic rivals? Here's something to consider Summer. Given that the city of San Francisco has one of the highest minimum wage rates in the country, $9.79. Wouldn't you have more money, if you had worked 40 hours a week for the past two months?

Another interesting fact that comes up in looking at the FEC's numbers, is that all contributions are mentioned as coming from individual donors. Meaning that LPAC hasn't given a single dollar to any of its candidates!

Source: http://www.fec.gov/DisclosureSearch/mapHSApp.do

eaglebeak 02-08-2010 12:15 AM

Erica Duggan vs. LaRouche
 
More on the Duggan case at Dennis King's website, http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/erica...speaks-out.htm

There you can read Erica Duggan's Feb. 1 statement exposing the lies in LaRouche's repellent piece "A Crucial Slant on the David Kelly Case" http://www.larouchepac.com/node/13303

She concludes her statement by saying, "It is also time for those who were once members and even leaders in the LaRouche organization, and know the truth about it, to redeem themselves by speaking out openly and honestly. It is a hard thing to admit you were wrong, but remaining silent will only allow LaRouche to ruin more lives and wreak more harm on society."

And indeed, despite the absurdities of the LYM and the overall feeble-mindedness of their "organizing," most of us on this site know that the organization has ruined many lives.

We never forget Ken Kronberg, for example.

Meanwhile, on the "David Kelly" release Jan. 28 (which I commented on several days ago), let me add this observation:

Lyn's writing is like the picture of Dorian Gray--but strangely, where Dorian Gray hid his awful secret, Lyn flaunts his.

Speaking of Writing

Speaking of awful writing, check out Lyn's "We Are a Republic, Not a Democracy" on the LPAC site
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/13465

What a hoot. And the LYM editors of LPAC, with their unerring instinct for the absurd, have selected the following sentences from the Foreword to use to advertise the whole piece:

Today, we need the likeness of President Abraham Lincoln’s victory over the British empire’s backers of the practice of slavery, as we did then, as, in certain respects, still today This means, over the time of today’s system of predatory, followers of the “health care” of Hitler’s and Tony Blair’s practices, including a Blair legacy for which Obama had been chosen to attempt to push through in the guise of what private health-care insurers have been chosen to install today.

Questions, anyone? There in the back?

chator 02-08-2010 01:13 AM

Sorry Lyn,
 
Sorry Lyn, the 'tea party' movement has just been hijacked...by Sarah Palin! http://politics.nashvillepost.com/20...arty-movement/

I know you and your LYM thought you had them eating out of your hand with that Obama-Hitler poster, but it looks like a coup has just stolen the tea party patriots away from you and transformed them into Palinites! But I'm sure that won't stop you and your LYM from continuing to trail after them, looking for handouts!

Now let's look at what that Obama-Hitler poster has done to one of your beloved LYM. LYMette, Keesha Rogers, who happens to be running for a congressional seat in Texas, gets fingered as a member of the LaRouche-Hitler youth!

LaRouche Hitler Youth Group CD22 Candidate

We have 3 very strange candidates running in the Democratic primary to challenge Pete Olson in CD22. One is a Libertarian. One has absolutely no clue. The other is a member of the LaRouche Hitler Youth Group, a far out (not left or right, just out) candidate. She, Keisha Rogers, is not a Democrat but that doesn't stop her from running as one.

CD22, the former district of Tom DeLay loves republicans. In 2008 they voted for Pete Olson who replaced a ranking Democrat, Nick Lampson, on the Science Committee in charge of NASA. Lampson would have been the chair of the Committee, instead voters replaced him with Olson, a space rookie. NASA's Constellation program has since been canceled in the 2011 budget, but at least CD22 has a republican Congressman.

Rogers ran for the Chair of the Texas Democratic Party in 2006. I think she got 20 or so votes from her Hitler Youth members. You might see the members standing in front of a post office handing out worthless LaRouche magazines complaining about something someone is doing and calling for interplanetary trade. (I am serious!) LaRouche people are good at complaining, but nothing else.

They tend to be young, but misguided. They would rather complain in front of a Post Office instead of walking door to door for a candidate. They also like to carry around pictures of Obama pictured as Hitler. Keisha is also calling for the impeachment of the President. Why? Who knows.

Regardless of who wins the primary, neither has a clue about running a campaign. There is a good reason why no good candidate wants to run in CD22. These candidates obviously do not know about this little secret.

Listen up, Keesha! Here's a warning from the Houston-area precinct chair,

John Coby said...

"Uh....as a condition of being a precinct chair we cannot endorse or support a non-Democrat.

Although that is the rule of the party, the clubs are not bound to those rules. If the libertarian or Laroucher gets the nod, they will not be allowed in our headquarters."


Source:http://bayareahouston.blogspot.com/2...roup-cd22.html

howie 02-08-2010 03:47 AM

</i>Speaking of awful writing, check out Lyn's "We Are a Republic, Not a Democracy" on the LPAC site.</i>

"Republic, not a democracy" is a classic and vintage right wing axiom / slogan. In the hey-day of the John Birch Society, members would attend politicians' public meetings, and when that politicians referred to "democracy" or "democratic principles", shout out "Republic!" Ron Paul long spot-lighted on his House website a speech he made entitled "We Are all Democrats now", bemoaning our fall from grace from the Founding Fathers. Google the phrase "Republic, not a democracy" and you'll find it expressed here and there -- the new Larouche article comes up on page two and takes a back seat to old articles from Pat Buchanan, and various articles at, say, "Pajamasmedia" (the outlet that hired Joe the Plumber for some videos.)

I don't know if this is reaching out some people in the "Tea Party" milieu -- finding the margins of sentiment that will give them the donations -- or if it's internalizing the sentiment for the members as they haunt those places. But one thing interesting -- a good segment there view Lincoln's presidency as a key fall from grace moment away from the "Republic". But they always need to retain the deviations.

eaglebeak 02-09-2010 04:37 AM

LaRouche in Faceoff with Euclid; Blinks First
 
I got another email several weeks ago from a source who is interested in Lyn’s Kulturkampf (that would be his Kampf against Kultur), handing me a quote from Lyn and asking for a comment.

I don’t know the provenance of this quote, but I have no doubt it’s Lyn’s. Who else would say this?

What you have to look at, is that population policy on the British side is very simple. And it has to do, not with simple issues that were debatable between the British and Leibniz, for example, but it goes back to an essential thing. It goes all the way back to Aristotle, and back to the adoption of Aristotle’s folly by Euclid. So you have the Euclidean conception, which is the Aristotelean conception, as this was denounced as an Aristotelean conception. This idea was to prevent the technological and cultural development of populations, because if technological and scientific progress occurred, and were to influence sociology, then empires could not exist. (Rubbish, by the way.)

And this whole thing, like the Aristotle operation, came after the death of Plato. It’s always been understood that technological and scientific progress affects populations intellectually and otherwise, such that empires cannot exist….

…The space program, for example, the killing of the space program, is actually the oligarchical principal (sic), which goes back to at least Aristotle and to Euclid. And those are the kinds of things that you’ve got to deal with.


Et cetera.

Now, I don’t know what anyone else’s particular interest in this passage may be, but mine is this: Does Lyn understand anything about Euclid?

I rummaged around the LPAC site, and found this telling passage from 2004, Lyn’s recollection of his distant school days (emphasis added):

For example, my initial and enduring personal hostility to Euclidean geometry erupted from within me on the first day of my high-school class in Plane Geometry. For me, the task of geometry was to uncover the principles which accounted for the increase of the functional strength contributed by an iron or steel beam, by eliminating certain weighty parts of a simply solid beam. It was apparent to me, from such experiences as frequent spectator visits to construction at Boston's Charles Town U.S. Navy Yard, there had to be principled way in which the beam must be crafted geometrically, to optimize its function of support. The idea of a geometry apart from the geometry of physical processes as such, was for me a disgusting, foolish enterprise. Against this, I revolted in that instant, and could never accept a standard doctrine for geometry after that.

You realize what we have here? We have a twofold confession:

1. Lyn couldn’t “do” high school geometry (hence the hostility).

2. Lyn’s concept of geometry is opposed to Plato’s—because the geometry of Plato is precisely geometry apart from the geometry of physical processes.

People steeped for years—marinated, really—in Lyn’s view of Plato will have to resist his grotesque mischaracterization of Plato as the “Philosopher of Becoming,” but once you do that, and re-read some Plato, you’ll see what I mean.

http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/eco...es_eir_eco.htm


Then, rummaging some more, I came up with this eyebrow-raiser from 2009 (“Rescuing the World’s Economy”)—again, emphasis is mine:

The follower of Aristotle, Euclid, chiefly copied into his own Elements the model solutions of earlier Classical Greek geometers, but added those infamous a-priori presumptions of his own making which echo Aristotle. The relevant issue of mathematical physics posed by this case, is expressed by the failure of the positivist David Hilbert's attempt to complete the process of solving the unproven assumptions of Nineteenth-century mathematics, most notably that of his sixth proposition, a proposition which goes directly to the point of Philo's attack on the theological argument of the Aristoteleans.

The Sixth Proposition, eh? What is Lyn talking about?

See Euclid's Sixth Proposition below.

Proposition 6

If in a triangle two angles be equal to one another, the sides which subtend the equal angles will also be equal one another.

Let ABC be a triangle having the angle ABC equal to the angle ACB.

I say that the side AB is also equal to the side AC.

For, if AB is unequal AC, one of them is greater.

Let AB be greater; and from AB the greater let DB be cut off equal to AC the less;
Let DC be joined.

Then, since DB is equal to AC, and BC is common,

the two sides DB, BC are equal to the two sides AC, CB respectively;

and the angle DBC is equal to the angle ACB;

therefore the base DC is equal to the base AB,

and the triangle DBC will be equal to the triangle ACB, the less to the greater, which is absurd.

Therefore AB is not unequal to AC;

It is therefore equal to it.

Therefore, etc.

Okay, Proposition 6—a piece of cake to prove. Does Lyn know what he’s talking about? Clearly, no.

But I do. He doesn’t mean Euclid’s Proposition 6, he means the Fifth Postulate. The famous Parallel Postulate—the one that reads as follows:

Let the following be postulated:

5. That, if a straight line falling on two straight lines make the interior angles on the same side less than two right angles, the two straight lines, if produced indefinitely, meet on that side on which are the angles less than the two right angles.

Okay. This is one of the most famous passages in mathematics. Among those who tried to prove it: Ptolemy, Proclus, Nasiraddin at-Tusi, Saccheri, Lambert, Legendre, Al-Hazan, Omar Khayyam, Clavius, Hilbert, Gauss (who never published his work), Bolyai, Lobachevsky, Klein, Poincare. These attempts, and failures, to prove the Fifth Postulate led to the generation of non-Euclidean geometries—geometries in which the Fifth Postulate did not obtain. Beltrami ultimately (1868) proved that the other postulates of Euclid were independent of the Fifth.

Lyn refers to it as an “unproved assumption,” but what is infinitely more interesting is that Euclid apparently had the good sense to include it among the postulates, even though it stands out so markedly from the other four.

In any case, because this is so famous a thing in the history of mathematics, it seems almost incredible that a mind as massive as Lyn’s should confuse the Fifth Postulate and the Sixth Proposition. Almost incredible, but not quite.

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12017

Perhaps as almost incredible—but not quite incredible—is the following utterance of Lyn from a 2006 address to the Mexican LYM. As always, the emphasis is mine.

Now, the beginning is to attack Euclid as being a fraud. You can not derive a line from a point. You can not derive a surface from a line. You can not create a solid from a surface. Now, these are the elementary ironies, paradoxes, which are presented by Plato and by his predecessors among the Pythagoreans. You are subject to sophistry in schools, in which they teach you that these are definitions of axioms which you must accept. And they tell you you must use essentially linear algebraic methods. So you use linear algebraic methods, and you jump ahead assuming that you've proven something. You've proved nothing! Because what you did was, simply assume that Euclid was right. And Euclid was a fraud.

Oh, dear. Another embarrassment. Can you find the place where Euclid derives a line from a point? Or a surface from a line?

I didn’t think so.

Perhaps that was the approach in whatever plane geometry textbook Lyn was refusing to read back in 1936. Only in that sense could one call it Euclidean.

But not Euclid’s.

Euclid does not “derive” his points, lines, surfaces, and solids. He defines them.

Thus, in the very beginning of Book I of Euclid’s Elements, we have … Definitions. As follows:

1. A point is that which has no part.

2. A line is breadthless length.

...

4. A straight line is a line which lies evenly with the points on itself.

5. A surface is that which has length and breadth only.

And so forth.

Philosophically, these are fascinating definitions—especially, perhaps, Definition 1. But any way you slice it, Dedekind schnitt or no, there’s no generating of lines from points here, pal.

This is another one of those awkward moments where you realize: Lyn didn’t read the book, he saw the movie.

http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/spe..._monterrey.htm

eaglebeak 02-09-2010 06:31 AM

The Root (Word) of Lyn's Axiom Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglebeak (Post 383800)
The follower of Aristotle, Euclid, chiefly copied into his own Elements the model solutions of earlier Classical Greek geometers, but added those infamous a-priori presumptions of his own making which echo Aristotle. The relevant issue of mathematical physics posed by this case, is expressed by the failure of the positivist David Hilbert's attempt to complete the process of solving the unproven assumptions of Nineteenth-century mathematics, most notably that of his sixth proposition, a proposition which goes directly to the point of Philo's attack on the theological argument of the Aristoteleans.

A further note on Lyn on Euclid and Hilbert:

To be fair, it may be that Lyn is speaking of Hilbert's Sixth Problem, not Euclid's Sixth Proposition (or Fifth Postulate).

In case that's what's on the old boy's mind, here's Hilbert's Sixth Problem:

Mathematical Treatment of the Axioms of Physics. The investigations on the foundations of geometry suggest the problem: To treat in the same manner, by means of axioms, those physical sciences in which already today mathematics plays an important part; in the first rank are the theory of probabilities and mechanics.

I believe Hilbert suggested probability and mechanics as two areas for fruitful work.

For Lyn to refer to Hilbert's "failure" to "solve" the "unproven assumptions" of 19th-century mathematics is sophomoric. Hilbert enunciated his 23 problems in mathematics in 1900--at the time, all were unsolved. It may be that some--and here the Sixth Problem leaps to mind--are in fact insoluble, so that Hilbert's "failure" is hardly his fault.

But Lyn will not be stayed by any such considerations.

As is well known, the very word "axiom" is enough to set Lyn off. Although organizers are taught to prattle about "changing one's axioms," the fact is that to Lyn the notion of an axiom is, er, anathema.

"Axiom," of course, comes from the Greek axiōma--something worthy, or worthy to be held; from axioun. to think or consider worthy, from axios worth, worthy--wait a minute--I think I see the problem!

Lyn was frightened by an Axios many years ago, and it's been all downhill from there.

At the sight of any axiomatic framework, the fit is on him again. The idea of a vast architecture of theorems derived from a small number of axioms causes tremendous anxiety in the subject.

This is because Lyn does not wish to be fettered by any laws of thought, as it were.

His individual sovereign creativity cries out, whenever confronted with a structure.

Hence the hostility, the animus, the venom. He cannot bear to be just another human being, bound by space and time, by rules and by mortality. Let alone by God.

None of that for Lyn. No sir.

Hylozoic Hedgehog 02-09-2010 03:41 PM

Comic Relief
 
For those interested, there is a a great new comic book called Logicomix: An Epic Search for Truth by Apostolos Doxiadis and Christos Papadimitriou published by Bloomsbury Press in 2009. It's a bio of Bertrand Russell that ends just on the brink of World War II and it is about Russell, Cantor, Frege, Hilbert, Godel and the history of the Principia Mathematica. In it there are a few pages devoted to Hilbert's famous speech at the Paris Congress in 1900.

chator 02-09-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglebeak (Post 383802)
But Lyn will not be stayed by any such considerations.

As is well known, the very word "axiom" is enough to set Lyn off. Although organizers are taught to prattle about "changing one's axioms," the fact is that to Lyn the notion of an axiom is, er, anathema.

"Axiom," of course, comes from the Greek axiōma--something worthy, or worthy to be held; from axioun. to think or consider worthy, from axios worth, worthy--wait a minute--I think I see the problem!

Lyn was frightened by an Axios many years ago, and it's been all downhill from there.

At the sight of any axiomatic framework, the fit is on him again. The idea of a vast architecture of theorems derived from a small number of axioms causes tremendous anxiety in the subject.

This is because Lyn does not wish to be fettered by any laws of thought, as it were.

His individual sovereign creativity cries out, whenever confronted with a structure.

Hence the hostility, the animus, the venom. He cannot bear to be just another human being, bound by space and time, by rules and by mortality. Let alone by God.

None of that for Lyn. No sir.

The irony here, of course, is that Lyn has and employs axioms himself. In fact, much intelligent thought is impossible without them. LYM are taught to fear and mistrust their axioms, and those of the population. If their thinking doesn't cohear 100% with Lyn's, it must be because they still have some 'false' axioms to get rid of. It is an eternal quest to beecome cleansed of the axioms one has picked up from the degenerated modern culture. Fear of one's axioms is fear of intelligent thought. It is but another technique Lyn uses to rule people from inside their own minds through blind terror.

xlcr4life 02-09-2010 06:07 PM

EagleBeak That was a fantastic post on explaining the nonsense of Lyn. The cheap parlor tricks start with endless name dropping which always, always lead to how Lyn has identified the problem and has solved it to the delight of the members. The next question is just how can this cheap parlor trick work so well for decades? Well, it only works on LC and LYMsters as entire countries have seen Lyn for the crack pot that he is.

For members, it works this way. Remember those school discussons of genetics vs environment in determining intelligience, nature vs nurture?

In the cult you are no diffeent then a hamster on a wheel, spinning endlessly to get nowhere. You get to read the opuses of Lyn usually when you are dead tired, after a long day, or in short bursts when you have a few minutes. You are perpetually under high stress and this small moment is one of relief since you are reading the wisdom of the man whom you are devoting your life to and gave up so much for. The local NC will give a class on this opus , often after a long day of raising money and when the quota was made. Try 10PM for starters. Since you left college, you sure do not have the knowledge and you sure do not have the practical life experience to know when you are being bambozzled by Lyn. You sure do not wish to be the target of the NC in raising an objection to the all knowing Lyn. You also do not want the local giving you a look for keeping them up so late since you have to get up again so early to do this over and over.

When you are in the Bizarro World, you need to find assurance that you are in the right place. This leads to an interesting pheonomena I am noticing with many members lately when they post on a blog.

"Larouche was right" is the current crutch to hold on to to answer why you just saw 3 or 4 decades of your life speed right past you. You have to justify this waste of an adult life by finding that one or two bits of Lyn saying something which remotely can pass as acceptable. You will surgically remove every bit of lunacy and douvble talk by Lyn where he is all over the place and just focus on a few lines. The jabronis do this , yet what we see is that the majority of other comments are completely the opposite and point out the double talk of Lyn and his insanity.

There are some real winning sentences in EagleBeak's posts.

Quote:

""Axiom," of course, comes from the Greek axiōma--something worthy, or worthy to be held; from axioun. to think or consider worthy, from axios worth, worthy--wait a minute--I think I see the problem!"

"Lyn was frightened by an Axios many years ago, and it's been all downhill from there"............................

"This is another one of those awkward moments where you realize: Lyn didn’t read the book, he saw the movie."

This is my favorite:

"People steeped for years—marinated, really—in Lyn’s view "
Marinated by Lyn!

That is what I was looking for in how to describe what happens to a member who at one time had some brains and then spends three or four decades in servitude to Lyn. Brainwashing is too cliche and marinated sounds just right. We will find an excellent example of this below in the case of Gerald Pechenuk




That was a pretty good Super Bowl Sunday night. It also ended relatively early which surprised me. This reminded me when we had a conference around the same time as the Super Bowl. Lyn heard some people buzzing about the upcoming game and he had to tell the audience that he knew the winner because the game is fixed and he knows how to fix fotball games! How come we never bet the income in Vegas on the Super Bowl? We could have made as much money as we made on knowing what the Stock Market was going to do.

As Homer Simpson would say:

"Is there anything Larouche can't do!"


I was also suprised as how much coverage there was of the 1986 Illinois chain of events following the victory of Scott Cohen in Illinois. He has resigned that spot, but our very own Gerald Pechenuk , perhaps a 35 year member who has kept Lyn living large comes into this blog for laughs.



When reading this, keep in mind that we were able to get Lyn to meet with a lot of people by relentless phone work by hundreds of people daily. What happens AFTER Lyn meets someone is that they see Lyn as Bat $hit crazy and leave for good. Then, we tell the members that Kissinger harrased them. If they are tin pot dictators or nobodies or people who are forgotten, then we we have a prayer of hooking them for a while. Gerald never has figured out that most people, including members I must add, who meet with Lyn leave the encounter convinced that he is crazy.





http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/02...comment-784791

Quote:

In 1986, Democratic gubernatorial candidate Adlai Stevenson resigned from the Democratic ticket after the primary had produced a situation in which his Lieutenant Governor running mate was otherwise going to be a follower of Lyndon LaRouche. Back then, Stevenson was not permitted to run as an independent candidate because he had already missed the filing deadline, so Stevenson qualified as the nominee of a new party, with an entirely different Lieutenant Governor running mate. The new party was the Illinois Solidarity Party. The Illinois Solidarity Party, with Stevenson as its gubernatorial running mate, polled 40% for Governor. The Democratic party slate that year had no one for Governor and the LaRouche follower for Lieutenant Governor, and that joint slate polled 7%. If the Democratic Party combination of no one for Governor and the LaRouche follower for Lieutenant Governor had polled under 5%, the Democratic Party would have lost its standing as a qualified party for all partisan office in the state. It would have retained its status as a qualified party for most district offices and all statewide offices, but it would have been off the ballot in those districts in which it had not run any nominee, which would have included a large number of legislative districts and partisan county offices.

Nowadays, the independent petition deadline is much later, and Quinn, if he wished, could run as an independent candidate with a new Lieutenant Governor candidate.









Gerald pechenuk Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

Richard,
Since you brought up the 1986 Illinois elections and “I was there,” as they say, permit me a few what ifs, that we might learn a few lessons from. (see below)
FYI, I was the campaign manager for the LaRouche Democrats who won the Lieutenant Governor as well as Secretary of State as well as 2 Democratic Congressional Nominations in that year of 1986.
FYI, Adlai Stevenson, had previous met with LaRouche and was in agreement with us on many issues of substance.
FYI, Adlai Stevenson intended to pursue the Democratic nomination for President, had he been elected Governor. Any one who knows his family history or speaks with him personally will know the truth of the above statement.
FYI, Adlai Stevenson was threatened by the late Senator Paul Simon among others, with being called a neo-Nazi if he stuck on the ticket with LaRouche. That statment can be verified by looking at an interview Adlai did with a Burlington, Vermont paper after his sanctimonious fall.
FYI, If Adlai had not succumbed to the threats, he most likely would have become Governor and then gone on to secure the Democratic Presidential nomination and ACTUALLY BECOME PRESIDENT!!!
Now, what this means is that Mark Fairchild, LaRouche Democrat, would have become Lieut. Gov, which means that Adlai Stevenson would have had the benefit of the knowledge and wisdom of Lyndon LaRouche, the world’s foremost American System physical economist, and the author today of the new 4 Power Alliance of India, China, Russia, and the US, a budding alliance to rebuild the collapsed world economy with a new credit system to replace the dead, bankrupt Anglo-Dutch globalization system which has died and whose PRIVATE GAMBLING DEBTS are presently being bailed out with TRILLIONS of dollars of PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS ILLEGALLY!!!

Conclusion, We could have avoided the last 20 plus years leading to economic disaster, had LaRouche been brought onto the scene back in the 1980’s, which was what the results of the Illinois Primary and Many Others that year should have resulted in……….
So, listen to LaRouche NOW, and quit listening to bankrupt idiots…. Gerald Pechenuk, LaRouche PAC

Steve Rankin Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 1:29 am
I’m sure that Mr. LaRouche shared his knowledge and wisdom with Reverend Jim Bakker, his roommate in federal prison.

Gerald Pechenuk Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 8:28 am
to Steve Rankin,
Was Larouche right about the crash of the global speculative financial system LIGHT YEARS ahead of everyone else? YOUR DAMN RIGHT HE WAS TOTALLY RIGHT!!
You might actually have to read some of Mr. Larouche and actually think, for a change, and then SEE what world leaders, including people in the US, SEE in Larouche, and SEE what the young people SEE in LaRouche, because your old SORE ASS smart aleck bull**** don’t count for a nickel, any more…..
Sorry Steve, you can’t live in the past, come up to the present and present some positive alternatives for the future. That would be the human thing to do!!

In the meantime, get on http://www.larouchepac.com and enjoy!! Gerald Pechenuk, LaRouche PAC

Phil Huckelberry Says:
February 7th, 2010 at 12:30 am
Cohen dramatically outspent everyone else, best as I can tell. (I haven’t looked at the disclosure data.) He had the most ads, he was the only one who did direct mail all over the state. And the two legislators who would erstwhile have been the most likely winners were both African-American legislators from the West Side of Chicago, so they cut into each other’s base. I wasn’t paying that much attention to the Democrats’ Lieutenant Governor race, but I thought Cohen was going to win. I don’t know what the big shot Democrats can offer as a serious excuse.

Jim Broadway of State School News Service remarks that one possibility is that the legislature could simply threaten to strip the Lieutenant Governor of all job duties and almost all salary. So I suppose there’s leverage there. We’ll see.

Skull / Bones » Blog Archive » Here, there, and everywhere. Seattle, Illinois, and Uranus Says:
February 7th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
[...] now turn to Gerald Pechenuk’s alternative universe of events — and I would like to know on what planet does he spend his days? FYI, Adlai Stevenson was [...]


Larouche Palooza 2010!



-We head over to Howie's blog "The Larouche Challenge" to pick up the Pechenuk puzzle . You think Gerald Pechenuk will see that mass strike after 330 million dollars was spent on it? Gerald only put in most of his life and has seen them come and go.



http://www.struat.com/election/categ...che-challenge/



-We find some press coverage of the guilty plea bargain in a Saettle card table shrine case, but not what the cult expects.



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...sparian5m.html



Quote:

The Ladouche clan is just another multi level marketing scheme that uses very unintelligent young people who are willing to enrich old Lyndon the... Posted on February 5, 2010


http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/daily...ads_guilty.php



I think that the "R. Wesser" who shows up at the end is Bob Wesser who joined in the mid 1970s and is still a Card table shriner who many people feel sad that he is still outdoors . Wesser came in a few years after Operation Mop Up.



Quote:

Police aren't sure what became of the two LaRouche supporters. But karma dictates that since they were too chicken**** to stand up to an old man, they'll be forced into a lifetime of servitude to a cause filled with conspiracy nuts. A transition they should have no trouble making





says:


He smacked around a couple of LaRouchians? Is there a way to donate to help pay his fine?


Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 10:43AM

Krist Novoselic says:


The LaRouche organization seems like a cult. It's similar the Krishna-Consciousness group in the 70's and 80's - young folks are indoctrinated.

I usually pick up LaRouche literature. It's a fun read in the genre of political conspiracy fiction / fantasy.

LaRouche advocates a world-wide rail system that will cross the Bering Straight. Not a bad idea.

If you ever come across a group of LaRouchies - ask them to sing a choral for you. I heard them once and it was quite nice.


Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 10:49AM

Mike says:


I've been harassed by LaRouchies for years on the UW campus. In my experience, the best way to quiet them is to look them in the eye and slowly say, "Go home. Your parents love you." Of course, there's a small chance that will trigger a violent outburst, but most of the time it works pretty well.

Re: trains across the Bering Strait. Krist, you're a great musician, but a lousy engineer. That idea only makes sense to people who've either never thought about the challenges of maintaining infrastructure in Alaska/Siberia, or believe we live in a world with unlimited resources to build fantasy projects of no economic value.


Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 11:20AM

Mr. Baker says:


I think I spotted folks like this on 1/25/2010, on U-Ave

The upside to documenting your life for your friends is being able to copy/paste fresh memories.

Here is a snip:

I walked to the end of the first block and waited for the light. Across the street waiting for me in front of the U. S. Post Office was a card table full of stupid. Hanging off the side was one of those photos of Barack Obama with a Hitler mustache. The 4 sponges standing behind the card table were a proud bunch.

I crossed the street and one mouthbreather says, "Help us stop Obama". His words swung a little rubber hammer in my head and I reflexively popped out, "**** Off!"


Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 1:13PM

r wesser says:


If you can't stomach the first amendment, then move somewhere else---you'll have plenty of protection from being "harassed" by anyone. Otherwise, if you disagree with anyone exercising THEIR first amendment rights, then get up off your butt, make up your protest sign, and hit the streets!
Otherwise, stop complaining. Advocating physical assault and violence to suppress anybody's free speech, whatever it may be, is the road to fascism, friends....

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/arc...really-deserve

Quote:

What Does the LaRouche-Basher Really Deserve?
Posted by Eli Sanders on Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:39 PM

As mentioned in the Morning News, 71-year-old Edmonds resident Henry Gasparian, who last year roughed up two Lyndon LaRouche supporters in an attempt to take away fliers comparing Obama to Hitler, has pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and agreed to pay a $400 fine for what he did.

I think I did the right thing, but maybe I should not have been so physical.


While Gasparian's legal jeopardy may be over, the question of what he really deserves for his actions lives on.


So.


What does Henry Gasparian really deserve?

A grateful nation's thanks
Congressional Medal of Honor
Commemorative plate
Face on American currency
Genius Award
Nobel Prize
Presidential pardon
Purple Heart

VOTE


He deserves the utmost respect for losing part of his family in a tragic way only to have that crime minimized later in life. He also deserves a pass for a free slap of Larouche himself, not a punch. .............

He deserves to live to see the creation of an organization that harrasses those ****ing nutbags every time they set up one of their goddamn tables anywhere, in the exact same manner they harrass all the people around them. Posters of LaRouche as Cheney/Hitler or something, etc. The ****ty attitude, the cheap homemade signs, all of it.


Those Larouchies are such colossal pu$$ies. They go out of their way to be confrontational (almost everyone I know has a story about being provoked or harrassed by them), but the second you look at them funny they start calling the cops. I doubt that Mr. Gasparian came anywhere near causing them actual physical harm.

A Jewish friend of mine was visiting from out of town and ran into the LaRouchebags that are usually milling around downtown. One of them approached my friend and asked "What would you say if I told you Obama was no better than Hitler?" My friend's reply was along the lines of "I think you are disturbingly ignorant and misinformed" and walked away.

That's the proper way to handle these ****s.


UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE OF SEATTLE (or freelancers with some free time): Here’s what you do with the Obama-Hitler-poster-waving LaRouche-Douches next time they are in your neighborhood:

1) Get a digital camera, set on highest resolution
2)Go up real close and get a nice big picture of their face
3) Print the picture, preferably on legal-sized paper, but if a Kinko’s is in your neighborhood, use the blueprint repro machine to get a good 24” X 30” print
4) Draw a Hitler moustache on their face
5) Spray glue it to cardboard, attach the cardboard to a 2X4
6) Go stand next to the LaRouche Douche with your sign
7) Say nothing
8) When they walk away, follow them. Say nothing.
9) Keep the sign in case the same idiot comes back the next day.
10) If a new one comes – collect ‘em all!

Violence against free-speech – even if the free speech is sub-literate, neanderthal and racist – is never the start of anything good.


It's not the signs I get so bothered about with the LaRouchites but the verbal harassment when you pass 'em on the street. They used to yell and catcall me on a daily basis when I passed by them near the Allen library, because I had a bumper sticker on my backpack ("We don't have a democracy. We have an auction.") that made them think I should be one of Them. I refused to change my route, but man, I really wanted to give 'em a sucker punch.

Cultists aren't people.


@25, no glue nor cardboard... email photos of the Douchy LaRouchies to me and we'll blow them up and print them on foamcore posters.


Gasparian is a real American hero and those who disagree can go live in Russia.

(Having talked with Larouchebags in the past, it takes a lot of willpower to not hurt them physicaly.)

His son's got a donation site set up:
http://edmondshero.us/Please_donate.html

-Upest at being carpetbagged by the cult at Tea Party rallies.

http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...upID=100047178


Quote:

And alot of the racist imagary is coming from LaRouche democrats that decided to show up at the second rally I went too and continue to show up at many of the other tea party protests... for obvious reasons we distanced ourselves from them much like normal democrats distance themselves from them.
-In our Last update we read about a hillarious encounter a writer had with the cult in Australia while Lord Monckton spoke. The connecto well went dry that night I guess for our two Aussie. This is a pretty long column and comments about the cult.

http://rankexploits.com/musings/2010...-on-the-right/

-Keesha gets some blogger coverage here.

http://muse-musings.blogspot.com/201...or-obamas.html

Quote:

Saturday, February 06, 2010
TX-22 Candidate Calls for Obama's Impeachment or Resignation
Kesha Rogers is a follower of Lyndon LaRouche, but she's running in the Democratic Primary for TX-22, for the seat currently held by Republican Pete Olson. She's got a video up on her website, filmed in front of the Johnson Space Center, where she calls for the "impeachment or resignation" of President Obama. Warning: lots of car noise. Plus, it's two minutes of your life you will never get back.

Let's be very clear, Kesha Rogers is no Democrat, no matter how many John F. Kennedy references she makes in this video:
Kesha Rogers Speaks on the Impeachment of President Barack Obama from Kesha for Congress on Vimeo.

It's going to be a real shame if she fools the Democratic Primary voters in TX-22 into making her the Democratic candidate on the November ballot. She's been a frequent critic of Obama, so this is really nothing new, but slamming him in front of JSC is an interesting twist, considering those employees are not happy with Obama right now. I guess this is the candidate disgruntled Democratic JSC employees can embrace . . . maybe Kesha is the Change They Can Believe In?



Anonymous said...

I've spoken with Keisha. It quickly became obvious, after speaking with her for a few moments, that she is lacking in her knowledge of science and specifically in her knowledge of the science of climate change.




-I have to throw this in to show how the mass strike is overwhemling.



http://www.****france.com/topic/3617...he-change.html



Quote:


Hadrian wrote:

All that Lyndon LaRouche **** has rotted your brain, Gia...........................
Hadrian.

you could tell me who is Larouche please ? i heard about him but i don't know.................




He's a fraudulent hack who peddles conspiracy theories.

en.wikipedia.org . . .


-Who gets the college voter, Rachel or Barney?



http://dailycollegian.com/2010/02/07...uted-minority/



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Though well known, a majority of Barney Frank’s attention is received because of his rude and ridiculous comments to his constituents and the press. As prevalent as liberal elitism is among the Democrats, Barney Frank has a vast record of contempt for voters even within his own constituency. Though, in my opinion, his attack on the Lyndon LaRouche supporter, who compared President Obama to Hitler, was warranted, it should be an important ethical rule for politicians not to insult any regular constituent, no matter how stupid their question might be. Brushing off and moving to the next comment would have been the more prudent thing to do.



-The cult in my guess really thinks that the mention of Lyn and the 1986 Illinois election must really be good for them. In LC folklore, you don't talk about how voters rejected us after that and then testified against us to lock us up!



http://thinkingorsitting.blogspot.co...-illinois.html



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Mr. Cohen, a pawnbroker -- his legitimate claim to the fashionable “outsider” label in this year’s Illinois elections -- beat out three other “inside” pols for Lt. Governor, completely surprising the party establishment. It’s not the first time a wild-card candidate for Lt. Governor has won a major party primary. In 1986, candidates from the extremist Lyndon LaRouche faction -- those charming people responsible for the Hitler mustache posters of Obama -- “sent the party into a tailspin” by winning Democratic nominations for two statewide offices.

Former Illinois Senator Adlai Stevenson, III had narrowly lost the governorship to Jim Thompson in 1982 and was in a good position to unseat Thompson, who was vying for an unprecedented 4th term. That is, until the LaRouche debacle forced Stevenson to run on the so-called “Solidarity Party” ticket -- invoking Lech Walesa’s Polish labor revolt was, sadly, insufficient to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. And so, when Adlai III came out of retirement the other day to implore Cohen to step down, it was like déjavu all over again.


http://www.cdobs.com/archive/feature...llinois,125999



Quote:


You would think somebody would have learned the lesson of a bygone election when a follower of neo-fascist cultist Lyndon LaRouche somehow was nominated for lieutenant governor, forcing Adlai Stevenson to form a third party and lose.


-Rachel Brown gets a mention here.



http://degreesofmoderation.blogspot....ns-win-in.html



Quote:

On the left, Rachael Brown, Democrat is running on a stop-Wall Street, Mars Colonization program and CCC Youth training program. She has the support of Lyndon Larouche who has called for Obama’s Impeachment.


-Lyn is mentioned here with other anti gaming people. Nothing much. If you get SHOWTIME network. Penn and Teller have an upcomg repeat on video games which is worth a watch.



http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/02/...r-sas-training



http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=4



-Lyn gets a mention in an ex Scientology forum.



http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=372096



Quote:

And, to be frank, DM could get convicted in criminal court - but why would that "remove him"?

Lyndon LaRouche went to jail - and when he came out (and while he was in) he was still the head of his insane group.




What have I learned today?



I think the best lesson is from [b[EagleBeak[/b] in seeing how a closer examination of what Lyn actually says and writes shows you what a farce this all is. Many of us have had that moment, but maybe it took a a lot of them or something else to pop us loose. In any event, we can clearly see how a Larouche "marination" works in eventually eliminating the critical thinking skills required in life. For someone such as a Gerald Pechenuk, he joins a few dozen other elderly members who went through the same thing as we did, but chose to stay in for life. What is obvious to outsiders who run into the cult and from what we find in Larouche Palooza 2010 is that it really is The Bizarro World where up is down and left is right.



In reading blogs where the cult enters, I really get the sense of urgency to convince oneself that "Larouche was right". That way of thinking is what may be the last threads holding one in. Over the years I have noticed how former members still may contribute to the cult. Often these members were denounced left and right after leaving. Most LCers have left the cult and so have a lot of LYM and LYMettes. What remains will be the hardest of the bunch who by the nature or the beast, will be the wackiest. The public wil recognise this and there shoudl be a never ending supply of anger and disgust for the cult. The cult in turn will view this as proof that they are doing the right thing in angering the masses in order to lead them. Just read what Lyn writes closely and you will see this cheap parlor trick done in the Q/A of LYM meetings.





xlcr4life@hotmail.com

chator 02-09-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howie (Post 383789)
</i>Speaking of awful writing, check out Lyn's "We Are a Republic, Not a Democracy" on the LPAC site.</i>

"Republic, not a democracy" is a classic and vintage right wing axiom / slogan. In the hey-day of the John Birch Society, members would attend politicians' public meetings, and when that politicians referred to "democracy" or "democratic principles", shout out "Republic!" Ron Paul long spot-lighted on his House website a speech he made entitled "We Are all Democrats now", bemoaning our fall from grace from the Founding Fathers. Google the phrase "Republic, not a democracy" and you'll find it expressed here and there -- the new Larouche article comes up on page two and takes a back seat to old articles from Pat Buchanan, and various articles at, say, "Pajamasmedia" (the outlet that hired Joe the Plumber for some videos.)

I don't know if this is reaching out some people in the "Tea Party" milieu -- finding the margins of sentiment that will give them the donations -- or if it's internalizing the sentiment for the members as they haunt those places. But one thing interesting -- a good segment there view Lincoln's presidency as a key fall from grace moment away from the "Republic". But they always need to retain the deviations.

'A Republic, not a democracy' is technically correct, but what it ignores or de-emphasizes are the 18th century philosophical currents that gave rise to America's form of governement. Republics are not new, they go back to ancient Greece. Democracy, however, was a new idea at the time of America's founding, and it was incorporated into the Republican model. Little has to be said about how much LaRouche despises democracy, as this is well know. He regards the masses as sheep that must be led by a strongman, not just any strongman, but him only. This makes Lyn's politics akin to fascist dictatorship, or totalitarian government. Domestically, America is a republic, but internationally, it is an empire. LaRouche fails to see this as well. For him, there is only one empire, the British empire. Any empire like actions undertaken by America is just Britian acting through its puppets. They maybe Americans, but in Lyn's view, they are not. They are British agents. Lyn has a serious case of mental myopia.

borisbad 02-11-2010 03:11 AM

What's wonderful in LaRouche's distorted view of how the world works is that he complains against Obama cancelling the manned moon mission. In itself, this would be fine and I would even be in agreement. However, of course, he links this to the oligarchical worldview of the British Empire. In his equation then, the greatest oligarchs would have to have been the German Nazi Rocket Scientists who were pushing the frontiers of space scientist in their day. Then of course, there would be the Soviets who carried on the space program and helped spur the US to compete in space.

chator 02-11-2010 07:33 AM

Half-Empty for Texas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chator (Post 383775)
In the meantime, the FEC website has new numbers on our LYM candidates:

Keesha Rogers has raised $3,326,

Rachel Brown has raised $1,776, and

Summer Shields has raised $1,345.

It looks like Keesha is beating her fellow LYM in fundraising, good for her. I mentioned earlier that her race was the one to watch given that her Democratic rivals are relatively weak. The filing fee to run as a candidate for the U.S. Congress in Texas is $3,125. So Keesha has actually now covered that cost with $201 left over. But her campaign, so far, with the cost of running the website, sponcering events, producing campaign videos and printing campaign posters, has probably exceeded that number. Meaning that her campaign is probably, so far, a net loss for the LaRouche organization. No matter, if the LaRouche organization is good at one thing, as xlcr has pointed out repeatedly, its at wasting money. If it wasn't being wasted on Keesha, I'm sure they'd find equally hopeless causes to waste it on.

Now let's look at Rachel. She has raised $1,776, but her only Democratic rival, Barney Frank, has raised $1,323,519. Meaning that he has outraised her by about a thousand times. Doesn't look to good Rachel, unless we compare your numbers against those of Summer Shields. He has raised $1,345 to Nancy Pelosi's $1,542,087. This means, she has outraised him by more than a thousand times! Where are all those mass strikers? If they gave you ten dollars each wouldn't you, at least, be equal with your Democratic rivals? Here's something to consider Summer. Given that the city of San Francisco has one of the highest minimum wage rates in the country, $9.79. Wouldn't you have more money, if you had worked 40 hours a week for the past two months?

Another interesting fact that comes up in looking at the FEC's numbers, is that all contributions are mentioned as coming from individual donors. Meaning that LPAC hasn't given a single dollar to any of its candidates!

As mentioned in my previous post, new FEC numbers reveal how much the LPAC cult candidates have raised since last year. In comparing these numbers to those of their Democratic rivals we discover a few things. First, both Rachel Brown and Summer Shields have both been outraised by about a thousand times each. This means that for every dollar raised by Rachel, or Summer at a cardtable shrine exposed to the elements, Barney and Nancy raise 1 grand each to match it. Anyone smell defeat? The picture isn't so bleak for Keisha Rogers, who is campaigning against relatively weak Democratic rivals, despite having been denounced as a non-Democrat by the Houston-area precinct chair. She's still at the bottom of the dogpile in fundraising, but not doing as bad when we consider how much her Democratic rivals have put into funding their own campaigns. We find that she is only slightly behind Minister Weider in individual contributions ($3,325-Keisha vs. $3,524-Weider), and ahead of the Texas Democratic Party's chosen candidate, James Blatt ($800). Though he is ahead of both in overall fundraising dollars due to a personal $10,000 injection into his own campaign and $2,600 from the TDP.

Source: http://www.fec.gov/DisclosureSearch/mapHSApp.do

The following is an interesting blogpost from a Democrat in Texas' 22nd CD that reveals some interesting facts about Keisha's rivals, and why a Democrat must reject Keisha Rogers.


For Texas CD22: That's Blatt

Logically, the follow-up to my endorsement of Robert Pruett for the Democratic nomination in the Texas CD 14 congressional race is to produce an endorsement for one of the three who are running for the Democratic nomination in my own congressional district, Tom DeLay’s old CD 22.

Also known as the Fighting 22nd.

With Nick Lampson unable to draw enough Republican crossovers or Independents to make a difference in 2008, we are now saddled with Grand No Partier extraordinaire, Pete “Just Say No” Olson.

By the way, I have Pete on video for his entire speech given at the TEA Party event in Sugar Land last April and I excerpted parts of it on a posting, but maybe as we get closer to the November election we need to see more of it.

Pete Olson chumming it up with the Teabaggers. That’s just plain fun.

But I digress.

This year Democrats have three candidates running for the Democratic nomination to run against Olson in November. They are, alphabetically, Doug Blatt, an Information Systems specialist (aka computer geek), Kesha Rogers, a political activist, and Freddie “John Wieder” Jr., a real estate broker, businessman and recently ordained minister.

Let’s dispense of the last, first.

“John Wieder” (why does he put two names in quotes?) is a Libertarian. We know this because he ran as such against Nick Lampson and Pete Olson in ’08. Wieder has lots of issues and I don’t just mean the political ones.

What I have learned from limited contact, and maximal perusal of his website, Wieder is running on a platform of God, Guns, and the universal right of all old guys to wear tacky, tacky ties.

Next.

Lakesha “Kesha” Rogers is a LaRouche Democrat. She is a fervent follower of the LaRouche Movement. When I first encountered Kesha this was very apparent from the very first paragraph of her literature. She has since buried the LaRouchian rhetoric in paragraph 4 of her recent literature. But I really like paragraph 5 much better:

“My intention in running is not to wait until January 2011 to implement this (LaRouche) plan, but to use my campaign, and those of my fellow LaRouche Youth Movement members also running for the Democratic nomination for Congress – Rachel Brown, who will oust incumbent menace Barney Frank, and Summer Shields, who will retire Speaker Nancy Pelosi – to mobilize the American people NOW, to regect the fascist policies imposed by the British monarchy, through its puppet Obama, in favor of the ‘LaRouche Plan’ which is in the tradition of those policies which have historically led to prosperity for out nation, and happiness for our people.”

As I said, a favorite passage of mine. Very revealing. As revealing as "Plan 9 From Outer Space" (Obama, a puppet to the British Monarchy? . . .yep). Winning, it seems, is not foremost in her mind. Using her candidacy to promote other races is.

Guys, read up on it yourselves. The LaRouche Movement is an “out there” political cult that is, in my opinion, as eclectic as the Libertarian Movement. But mainly, I have never forgiven the LaRouche Movement for foisting upon California voters Proposition 64 in 1986: a ballot proposition that was soundly defeated by Californians by a 4 to 1 margin.

Proposition 64 sought to restore the disease AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) to the list of communicable diseases. Had this passed, this would in effect have required the quarantine of hundreds of thousands of Californians with HIV and AIDS, denying them a right to work for a living. They made wild claims that AIDS could be transmitted by insects, respiratory contact, and indeed any casual contact whatsoever. They called their campaign the “Prevent AIDS Now Initiative Committee” (PANIC). The proposition was resubmitted in 1988 with similar result.

They finally got the message.

So I have to reject Rogers as well. Rogers = LaRouche.

Leaving us with the computer geek, Doug Blatt.

Now make no mistake, Blatt is about as new to politics as he can get. He has experience in Information Systems working in the Michigan Legislature so there’s that. But Blatt’s issues are the Democratic Party’s issues.

He is for reforming “No Child Left Behind”
He is for repealing the Bush tax cuts.
He is for reform or repeal of the Patriot Act (well . . .which is it?)
He is for Medicare for All
He sees the need to build a mass transit system connecting Houston with the outlying areas in the district.

Already I have a problem with the first four words in the second paragraph, but we can’t agree all of the time.

So it’s really a no-brainer here. First we need to clear the field for the only true Democrat on the primary ballot.
Then we go from there.


Source: http://halfempth.blogspot.com/2010/0...ats-blatt.html

So on the one hand Keisha is competing for the tea-party vote with Pete Olsen, and John Wieder, and on the other, with Doug Blatt, for the Democratic vote. Doug Blatt has the charisma of a school yard geek, but the Democratic Party establishment in Texas has gotten behind him largely to oppose Keisha and Wieder, whom they don't regard as "real" Democrats.

In any case, all three of the Democratic candidates are doing very poorly in fundraising compared to the Republican incumbent Pete Olsen, who has raised more than half a million, which is way down from the over 2 million he raised two years ago to defeat Democratic incumbent, Nick Lampson. This means ole Pete isn't taking his competition too seriously. Why should he when he has outraised his combined competition by 25 times?

eaglebeak 02-11-2010 05:03 PM

Lyn vs. Euclid, Round 2
 
I said above, in musing on Lyn vs. Euclid, that I didn't know the provenance of the first LaRouche quote I cited there.

A longtime reader of this site has emailed me the following:

It's from a Sept. 17, 2009 LPAC piece titled "LaRouche: Long Term Cultural Conflicts Are Being Played Out Today" (what a novel thought)

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/11784


Thanks to the longtime reader. I'm not sure he would want his Factnet sobriquet used, so I am not printing it here.

But thanks.

eaglebeak 02-11-2010 05:23 PM

LaRouche in Texas
 
On the Texas primary and Kesha Rogers, discussed above by Chator.

I have a feeling that Kesha's results will be a far cry from the highwater mark of LaRoucheism in Texas--the day in 1988 that LaRouche follower Claude Jones was sworn in as the chairman of the Democratic Party in Harris County (Houston), Texas--at the time the biggest Democratic county organization in the country.

Yes, we all remember that day (and if we don't, here's a news link to remind you http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/12/us...l?pagewanted=1)

And, having just elected one of their number to the Harris County chairmanship, what did the org do? Take over the county? Use it as a springboard for further electoral successes in Texas? Organize around their "issues"?

If you picked any of those, you don't know Lyndon LaRouche.

Lyn positively, absolutely, 100% cannot tolerate competition.

He can't tolerate anyone stealing the limelight.

He has about as much self-control in that line as a 5-year-old on the playground--a really, really nasty 5-year-old.

So, what ever became of Claude Jones?

Why, he was shipped to Leesburg, where he got buried in the LaRouche A/V empire, working on ads or webcasts or LaRouche TV or ....

In short: No one ever heard of him again.

Same as what happened to Mark Fairchild and Janice Hart, after the 1986 Illinois primary everyone's reminiscing about these days (see Cohen, Scott Lee, Lt. Governor dropout, for details).

They had one moment in the sun, and then--they were vanished. Mark is somewhere in Pennsylvania these days.

Janice wisely left the org.

The bottom line is that if any NDPC or LPAC or "LaRouche Democrat" candidate ever got anywhere, he or she was deep-sixed.

Does anyone remember the NC meeting at the end of the 1990s (or maybe 2000?) when LaRouche announced that there would be no more candidates' movements, because the only candidacy that counted was his?

When the words "political genius" were first spoken, there appeared as a model laid up in the heavens for the just man to contemplate--an image of Lyndon LaRouche.

chator 02-11-2010 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglebeak (Post 383842)
On the Texas primary and Kesha Rogers, discussed above by Chator.

I have a feeling that Kesha's results will be a far cry from the highwater mark of LaRoucheism in Texas--the day in 1988 that LaRouche follower Claude Jones was sworn in as the chairman of the Democratic Party in Harris County (Houston), Texas--at the time the biggest Democratic county organization in the country.

When the words "political genius" were first spoken, there appeared as a model laid up in the heavens for the just man to contemplate--an image of Lyndon LaRouche.

Based on current trends in fundraising, i would guess that all three LYM candidates will be soundly defeated by the incumbents they are running against. Keisha is the only candidate that could win her Democratic primary and make it to the general election. It would be interesting to see the reaction that comes from the Texas Democratic Party were that to happen.

As for your point about LaRouche not being able to stand anyone in his own movement becoming bigger than him, that raises the question of why he's running candidiates to begin with. I don't think Lyn is running candidates with the intention of having them win. Strategically, it makes no sense to run inexperienced candidates against political heavy-weights like Nancy Pelosi, and Barney Frank. He's also hedging against them, by giving them the platform of Obama's impeachement to run on. What Democrat in their right mind is going to vote for a candidate that will impeach the Democratic President? The choice of MA, TX, and CA, as states to run campaigns in makes more sense geographically, in terms of fundraising regions. Your Southern contacts get hit up to fund Keisha, your Eastern contacts get hit up to fund Rachel, and your Western contacts get hit up to fund Summer. So it appears as though the LYM are not running to save the world, but to save the cult!

eaglebeak 02-11-2010 10:38 PM

The Last Hurrah. Again.
 
Of course Lyn is not running these people to have them win. Which is really just as well for him and them, inasmuch as they won't and can't.

But the difference between now and 1988, or even between now and 1999-2000, is that Lyn himself is not running.

As long as he was the perennial-presidential-candidate, he was less and less interested in any "candidates' movement."

Now that even he has realized that his days as a perennial-presidential-candidate are over--as he realized sometime in 2007--a "candidates' movement" can be used for the same things he used to use his own presidential campaigns for...

It gives the org something to write about, at least. Too bad they're nearly plumb out of publications.

hamlut2b 02-12-2010 05:29 AM

mustache for Sarah
 
Larouche hasn't said much of anything about Sarah Palin's "Health Plan" as she rushes in to assume some sort of leadership role in the Tea Party...other than cuts in Medicaire and Social Security which would be dangerously closer to Schachtian austerity than anything Obama has proposed.

xlcr4life 02-12-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglebeak (Post 383842)
So, what ever became of Claude Jones?

Why, he was shipped to Leesburg, where he got buried in the LaRouche A/V empire, working on ads or webcasts or LaRouche TV or ....
In short: No one ever heard of him again.

Claude Jones did have a sort of life for a wee bit of time. I may have posted a few times about a collection of Claude Jones posts on various news groups involving video production . These were very painful to read since they all started off with Claude entering a conversation about any topic and then bringing in Larouche in what was supposed to be an Adoration of the Lyn moment.

Instead, the participants would mock and ridicule Claude endlessly for being in a cult, or worshipping an anti semite or a criminal as well as a lunatic. The more Claude pushed Lyn , the more ridicule came at him to the point where he would be laughed at before he posted anything. After a few months of this, I never saw a google search engine mention of Claude.

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Originally Posted by chator (Post 383859)
What Democrat in their right mind is going to vote for a candidate that will impeach the Democratic President? The choice of MA, TX, and CA, as states to run campaigns in makes more sense geographically, in terms of fundraising regions. Your Southern contacts get hit up to fund Keisha, your Eastern contacts get hit up to fund Rachel, and your Western contacts get hit up to fund Summer. So it appears as though the LYM are not running to save the world, but to save the cult!

I can't wait for the filings for these three LYMsters of donors. I would guess that there will be a high percentage of member donations. This is so Bizarro World in that we have a cult in the LYM/LC which raises several million dollars a year for a PAC and gives NOTHING to the LYM candidates. Please note this whomever is or will be studying the behaviour of this cult for your thesis. This is priceless!

Larouche Palooza 20101

-I don't know what it is about Seattle and the cult, but they sure drive people there to despise them with intensity. Seattle also has the best comments about the cult.

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/arc...ma-hitler-sign

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Woman Shoves LaRouchebag, Tries to Take "Obama-Hitler" Sign
Posted by Unpaid Intern on Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Posted by news intern Jon Brock




Not the LaRouche activists who were assaulted, but equally idiotic, nonetheless
Around 1:00 p.m. last Friday, a woman assaulted an activist working at a table promoting quadrennial failure for president Lyndon LaRouche, according to a Seattle police report.

When contacted by an officer, the female victim reported that she was "standing out in front of the [Chase] bank with a friend promoting the LaRouche PAC and the impeachment of the President," the report says. You've seen these people around the city. They're the ones who equate Obama's attempts at health-care reform in this country with Hitler's extermination of the Jews.

The victim said she witnessed a woman leave the bank and get into a black Ford Ranger pickup truck, only to soon get out and approach the two LaRouche supporters. "The contact at this point was nothing out of the ordinary," according to police. She further added that "she is used to having people confront her over the picture of the President with a 'Hitler Mustache' and calling for his impeachment." After a brief verbal altercation between the two, the suspect returned to her vehicle.

Evidently, exchanging some heated words was not enough for the woman. The police report says that the woman "returned and attempted to take the sign of the president off the table." The LaRouche woman tried to get the sign back, and was subsequently "shoved" away, causing her to accidentally hit her friend in the face, the report says. The assailant gave up on trying to take the sign and left in her vehicle.

You may recall a similar incident occurring up in Edmonds back in September. (See Thursday, February 4)



come on people... water balloons!! ...............

hahahahaha! couldn't have happened to a more deserving person

is it legal to pull the picture off the table (provided you don't smack a bitch) or is it destruction of property?

3! that's what i said to my pal when we walked past it the other day in front of the convention center! I told my pal that if it was just me the the Larouchies and that poster alone on the street, there would be trouble, but I am civil, obey most laws pertaining to violence, and a chicken.

Seriously, what is the law pertaining to their vocal, false defamatory protests? Is it all protected by free speech rights or can I say, dump something on the table that might cause them to go home for the day? like factory farm eggs or something rotten from my compost bin? and is a permit required for them to see up on a sidewalk--where they usually are impeading the right fo way of bikers and walkers. Please help.

I hear lurking about and filming them really unsettles their $hit.

I say pepper spray them!! Or just take a gun and ... well you know.

love how one of the LaRouchies has a profile on one of those gay profile sites. I mean, LaRouche has been so for that in the past, the guy probably feels real welcome. Would suck if LaRouchies were actually hostile to that and revealing his membership on a gay sex profile site would be tantamount to outing him to a hostile group. I mean, it's not like LaRouche advocated forced isolation of gays as recently as the mid-90s.

Try taking pictures of them. They love it.

Although paint ballons (water-based washable paint) are far more fun.

Just like the incident involving the 71-year old Edmonds man, I seriously doubt that this encounter was as violent as the Larouchies made it out to be. I bet if I accidentally sneezed on one of them, they'd fill out a police report claiming that I deliberately assaulted them. What a bunch of wimps and cowards.

Take lots of pictures whenever you see them. It really gets their goat.

Those Larouchies are like a little kid acting out for attention. "Mommie look at me! I'm standing on the coffee table!"

The people who staff the tables actually invite confrontation, it is free publicity and makes them out to be victims. In the past few months they have been in front of the Broadway Market QFC several times. One of the staffers is a woman with a particularly smarmy smirk who engages passers-by with the question, "Does this picture of Obama upset you?" I always answer, "No, it's just childish, grow up." and keep walking. Folks shouldn't give them the satisfaction of any attention at all.

What if you set up a table right next to them claiming to be LaRouch also and basically had literature that was far far more objectionable than theirs and started spouting lies and offensive speech in their name..... Do you think that they would make them mad? would that be legal?

This makes me wish we had LaRouchies. Sounds endlessly entertaining

17 Oh, they really are. If you ever get the chance to visit, look me up and I'll show you some of their usual spots

I agree, Andy Squirrel, it would be amusing to follow them around and set up shop right next to them... Maybe you could offer a product like "Disposable Pre-Mixed LaRoucheDouche - The Crazy is Mixed Right In!!"

You could claim it was Performance Art... That oughta frost their cookies...

you could pull the poster off as long as it did not result in damage, but you could not retain possession of it, as "technically" an action that results in the poster being damaged would be Property Destruction (a defense would be that you were not intentionally trying to damage the poster, just trying to take it down) and keeping the poster is technically "theft" but both instances would propably NOT be prosecuted, as they are de minimis. SPD guy

All you actually have to do is ask them this question: "What are you going to do when your cult leader dies?" Trust me, they will then take a swing at you and then you can get them busted for a change.

Is it just me, or does that Larouchebag have some nice cans.

On second inspection, it looks like she's just standing there.

You have to be an idiot to take LaRouche cultists seriously. Most are mentally ill.

@24: Seriously. It can't be soon enough. The man is 87 years old! But L. Ron passing on didn't seem to stop any of that other craziness out there.

"I call bull**** on the Larouchebag's testimony. These Larouchebags can get pretty agressive"

Yep. They're as full of lies and attention-whoring as scientologists.

As for the picture, a nice rack can't fix crazy.

-I just thought of how much fun we have had and what we have accomplished here over the years. In the past, when you call Lyn a "Small Time Hitler" and point out the anti semitic lunacy , the cult responds by using a Trojan Jew to proclaim that they would not be here if there was anti semitism since they are Jewish. WIth this whole Bizarro World being a cult, they do not trot out someone to do the saem thing. In fact, I think the job is easier since the cult keeps on sending out goofy cult members to prove the point daily. We demand the the cult send out the cult daily to remind everyone of this.

http://www.wgil.com/localnews.php?xn...2010&newsid=88

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In 1986, Democratic primary voters nominated Mark Fairchild for lieutenant governor. He was a part of the LaRouche movement, described by some as a cult. Adlai Stevenson, the Democratic nominee for governor, refused to run with him. He left the Democratic ticket and ran as an independent, but lost badly.
-Laroucheisright jabroni talk.

http://lung-cancer-and.treatment-inf...-part-3-of-16/

Quote:

LaRoucheisright says:
February 9, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Cocondeck: LaRouche is leading the fight. So call it what you want. I think anyone whoknows about LaRouche and isn’t supporting him at this point is brainwashed, so right back at ya dumb a$$.



COCONDECK says:
February 10, 2010 at 12:18 am
YOU TALK ABOUT LaROUCHE LIKE YOURE BRAINWASHED. I AMAWARE WHO HE IS AND I AGREE WITH SOME BUT YOURE ALMOST SPAMMING

LaRoucheisright says:
February 10, 2010 at 3:50 am
Kissinger was committed to stopping Larouche. But he only slowed him down a little.
LaRouche is now going to defeat everything Kissinger did in his life. Kissinger is an evil pig.
Visit and book mark
LaRouchePacdotcom


-Here we have a hilarious section on just who Alex Jones is going to expose as a fraudster in thre world where his supporters reside. Is the cult doing a numbner on Tarpley? DOes David Icke still use cult info as his own.? This is a case where I guess only HH can sort out the crazy.



http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=158857.0



Quote:

Topic: who is the dis-info agent alan did not want to mention on air..



Alan briefly mentioned a member of the patriot community who he has information on and claims is dis-info agent but he will not reveal it on air as he fears it will blow the whole community wide...I'm curious as he said if you email him he will let you know who it is!

anyone got any ideas



i just skimmed through LaRouche's profile on wikipedia and he sounds pretty close to what Alan was describing...but I'll just wait for the email and let you all know.



Tarpley?



LaRouche is not an honest broker, per Eustace Mullins! Mullins thought the guy was a fraud!



Who writes stories that RBN, Infowars and Rense all post on thier sites?
Larouche is a dinosaur and I haven't seen him regularly writing articles that are posted by these websites.

Tarpley is an admitted socialist. He writes articles that are posted by the above websites all of the time. He writes in an academic fashion. He cheer leads for China constantly. He said that the Rothschilds are just errand boys for the Elite.

Tarpley is my #1 suspect. but even if Tarpley is the one that Watt is talking about, it doesn't mean that it is true. IMO Tarpley is the guy that Watt is accusing of being a marxist infiltrator.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, Tarpley fanboys. I'm just throwing out some ideas out there. It's just speculation.



http://www.deeppoliticsmonitor.co.cc...-and-iraq.html

Beware of Webster Tarpley's Disinformation


Issue I have with Tarpley.
(a) Calling a number of prominant members of 911 truth COINTELPRO agents and possibly derailing the merging of the anti-war movement and 911 truth.
(b) his demonization of the crushed minority group of Tamils in Sri Lanka.



I'm going with Tarpley. Socialist-minded smart and nice people spook me.



I'll kill myself if it's Debra Medina!


Don't worry! I don't think that's possible! I think she's the real deal!



btw My 2nd Choice for Mr Disinfo is Tarpley. He's the Harvard Ph.D. that's always bothered me as to his authenticity and what I've read about him. Just wonder about Celente also though. Not enough proof to pin either one though, IMO!





From my one personal encounter with Tarpley, my impression was that he did have some useful information, but it was to the tune of about 25% of what he says. You just have to sift out the 25% of useful information from the 75% fluff. Others here seem to have had more extensive contact with him, so...well that was just MHO. I don't recall him ever attributing anything to Zionists, either--it was all about the bad CIA, DoD, etc.. I just took that to mean, he's a politician. I never hear Ron Paul speak out against the Israeli lobby, either.



-What makes this worth posting is not just the Larouche topic, but that it features that great picture of Lyn with his bad teeth.
http://imagine2050.newcomm.org/2010/...-front-groups/

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FAIR and Lyndon LaRouche: Of Soul Mates and Front Groups
February 10, 2010 by Rev. David L. Ostendorf
Filed under: American Identity, Immigration
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LaRouche

When it comes to creating bogus front groups, few organizations in the U.S. today can match the anti-immigrant Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

Its most recent incarnation—“Progressives for Immigration Reform”—is all dressed up in a caringly liberal-like web site, professing its commitment to protect American workers and the environment, and to “improve the lives of people worldwide.” One has to wonder if someone at FAIR got schooled in its front groups strategy by Lyndon LaRouche, the wacky, right wing demagogue and political operative and whose capacity to create political confusion through his fronts is the gold standard to which FAIR may aspire.

LaRouche’s National Caucus of Labor Committees launched his lifetime of facades. The Caucus had little to do with labor. He later operated under the guise of the National Anti-Drug Coalition and the Fusion Energy Foundation. Along the way he spun off the Schiller Institute to provide pseudo-intellectual cover to his operations. He topped himself in 1980 by establishing the National Democratic Policy Committee, which spread confusion nationwide as a perceived arm of the Democratic Party. In 1986, LaRouche minions actually won the Illinois primary for Lieutenant Governor and Secretary of State, prompting Democrat Adlai Stevenson to run independently as a candidate for Governor with the Party’s support—a campaign he lost. Indomitable, LaRouche and his cult persist to this day, the latter hawking Obama-as-Hitler flyers reflecting their leader’s warped views on the President.

While FAIR has a long way to go to match LaRouche, its front groups eerily mirror the master. FAIR’s “Coalition for the Future American Worker” has for years run brazen anti-immigrant ads, the most infamous of which were labeled “borderline racist” by a Des Moines, Iowa network station. Its “Choose Black America” (now defunct after it was “unwelcomed” in Chicago) and “You Don’t Speak for Me” fronts attempt(ed) to place African American and Latino/a leaders, respectively, in the fight against immigrants. In 1985 John Tanton and FAIR spun off its own pseudo-research Center for Immigration Studies to provide cover for anti-immigrant policies. Its ill-named “America’s Leadership Team for Long Range Population- Immigration- and Resource Planning” ran “environmental” ads in the New York Times and other national publications long before Progressives for Immigration Reform emerged.

One wonders just what FAIR has to hide. In this respect, FAIR and LaRouche share a common façade, a penchant to confuse, obfuscate, mislead, and misdirect. Like LaRouche, FAIR has a handful of persons of color to cover its racism (one of whom is photographed with known white nationalists), and just enough so-called Democrats to lend its anti-immigrant agenda a touch of nonpartisan credence. But the more the FAIR onion is unpeeled the more it smells like the group took a page from Lydon LaRouche—Front Group Master, con artist, and bloviator-at-large, FAIR soul mate in creating and hiding behind front groups.

Take a look. And give a warm (un)welcome to FAIR’s more aptly-named “Regressives for Immigration Reform,” coming soon to a “progressive” meeting in a white community near you.


-You can play "The Larouche Card" in a book review as we see here.



http://www.ksorc.org/834-recovering-...tian-education



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Do some research about Wilson. Find his website and listen to his sermons about family. Hear what he says about returning to the Old Testament tribal system. Find what he has said about slavery in the Old South. Think about what his ‘learning’ has done for him. This guy is nuttier than Lyndon LaRouche, yet he impresses the rubes with a little Latin and a bit of formal logic. “Classical Christian” education as described by Wilson and the Bluedorns is neither.


-The mass strike wins over the compuses.



http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/archive/t-605291.html



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http://www.larouchepac.com/files/media/small_1.jpg

:no:

I took a moment to talk to the guy at the La rouche PAC booth to tell him comparing obama to hitler is completely off base.

He then told me that obama is already close to being a dictator. ridiculous.

oh yeah, this was at Cal State Long Beach



They moved? They're usually downtown spewing their bull$hit. I always ask them what it's like to support a convicted felon. They call me hitler too.

They're just angry that their prediction that the British crown would assassinate him never came true.

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http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008...ssination.html

LaRouche elaborated on his concerns, noting that Obama is in a free-fall, which has accelerated since his landslide defeat by Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania on April 22. "Obama is going down, just as the British planned all along,'' LaRouche said. He is losing, and his London controllers are not going to waste an opportunity to get further mileage out of him. How can they maximize the destabilization of the United States, which is the real London goal? LaRouche answered his own question: "In my estimation, Barack Obama's life is in danger, and the biggest contribution to that threat is coming from some of the very people who are ostensibly his closest friends.''
-What we learn hee is that the cult claims to have 50 LYMsters in the biggest LYM clubhouse. The cult can't explain anything which is the basic law of the LYM. We also see a correction at the end which is great.

http://www.lacanadaonline.com/articl...eople.0211.txt

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‘Aggressive’ activists spark outrage
By Seth Amitin


A small group of political activists who set up a table near the La Cañada post office created a stir on Thursday, prompting complaints to the Crescenta Valley Sheriff’s Station.


The Larouche Movement, a radical organization in favor of impeaching the president, filled their table with literature and displayed a poster with an image of President Barack Obama to which a mustache similar to Adolph Hitler’s had been added.

A couple of La Cañada residents took offense to the demonstration and described the protesters as being “aggressive.”

Capt. Dave Silversparre with the Crescenta Valley Sheriff’s Station said the station logged two calls Thursday afternoon from La Cañada residents who objected to the protest.

“One [call] was about the two people protesting and how they were aggressive to post office customers,” Silversparre said.


Silversparre said the report didn’t explain in detail the nature of the aggressions.

“On the second call, the deputy contacted the [informant], who said she was offended by the protesters,” Silversparre said. “The informant claimed they assaulted her, but did not want to file a report. Still, our deputies followed up and questioned [the protesters]. The protesters denied shoving the informant It was a misdemeanor that didn’t occur in our presence—which we cannot arrest for, unless it’s a case involving domestic violence or a juvenile.”

Tammy Kaitz of La Cañada said she was the one who was assaulted.

“I came back outside [from the post office] to see what they were doing,” Kaitz said. “They had this humongous poster of Obama with a Hitler mustache. You don’t have to be Jewish to be offended by this. Associating the president with a mass-murderer is wrong.”

Kaitz said she went to look at the poster and put her hand on it. When she did that, she claims she was called names and “shoved” more than once by the protesters.

No representative with the Larouche Movement was available to comment specifically on the incident, but someone who identified himself only as “Bob,” contacted Friday through a phone number posted on the Larouche website, said “We don’t have protesters, we have political campaigners and our campaign right now is Obama must be impeached.”

He added the group disagrees with Obama’s policies and believes the president is “destroying the economy.”

The Larouche Movement has about 50 people working full-time in Los Angeles, the man said, and more people working part-time on the campaign effort. As for the poster, “Bob” was unable to explain the ideology behind associating Obama with Hitler. “Some people call it offensive and some people love it,” he said. “We’re in a political war and people will take sides.”

La Crescenta resident Bob Stewart, who regularly visits the La Cañada post office, said he’s seen the activists and their poster before.

“That was the second time I’ve seen those protesters in the last two months,” Stewart said. “Different people each time. They tried to talk to me [on Thursday] and solicit my response; they weren’t being aggressive—that wasn’t my experience.”

The activists were within their legal rights, since they were on the sidewalk and not on the post office property, according to the city.

“The post office is federal property, but the sidewalk is public,” said Kevin Chun, administrative services director for the city of La Cañada Flintridge. “I have no idea what their protest was about, but as far as I understand, they have the right to be on the sidewalk.”

The activists moved their operation Monday to the parking lot in front of the La Cañada branch of Bank of America.

Correction: An earlier draft of this story referred to the LaRouche Movement as a “radical, left-wing organization.” While Lyndon LaRouche himself was a Democrat and Marxist for many years and the organization has Marxist beliefs, the group is better described as a political fringe cult.

-Here is a mention of the cult in the Wall Street Journal from the Behar show. We can see the carpet bagginf og the cult at work.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...DDLETopOpinion


-Here we find some Keesha Rogers news with some very funny moments.

http://halfempth.blogspot.com/2010/0...-opponent.html

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Thursday, February 11, 2010
Doug Blatt on His LaRouchenik Opponent Kesha Rogers

Yesterday was a long day. First work, then a quick posting of an email from Marsha’s friend of a friend who went to Haiti, then two hours videoing the Fort Bend Democrats’ Democratic Candidates’ Forum. A forum that included questions from the local press.

I have a lot of material to post. It might not all make it here. You might find video clips in various websites. I’ll try to provide links if that happens.

I had an idea of where to begin, but my plans were totally upended this evening when I read the newest comment on an older posting I did on LaRouche Democrat Kesha Rogers and her enviable ballot position in Fort Bend and Harris Counties.

The commenter was Kesha Rogers’ only true Democratic opponent, Doug Blatt.

Her other opponent is Libertarian John Wieder. Those two actually have more in common between each other than Blatt or the Democratic Party. Teabaggers would love it if Democrats nominated either of them.

The Blattster, as I want to call him, left a scathing comment on Kesha Rogers, all of it true in my opinion. I want to “front page” his comment here so people who don’t look at the comments can see what he had to say. Here it is pasted below verbatim:


Coming from someone who supports a candidate that says nothing about herself and only says what comes out of Lyndon LaRouche’s mouth, I will take your calling me a “party hack” as a badge of honor.

That means that I am and have been seen as the true Democrat in the race. Being a Democrat means something to people like us. People who support other Democrats, especially ones they worked hard to elect…people that share the same ideas, values, and opinions (for the most part). We don’t equate President Obama with Hitler or call for his impeachment. We don’t stand in front of public building waving pictures and chanting. We respect our President and each other.

Every time your candidate speaks, the people in the audience turn towards me and proclaim their support of me. That’s why I have several endorsements from Democratic clubs and groups that support Democrats and your candidate doesn’t.

I may be an unknown first time candidate, but I realize that when one actually gets into office, doing and saying things against your own party isn’t the way to be a success. You and others have said that I have no personality. You made that judgment from one or two early speeches when I was getting used to speaking in front of large crowds. I don’t have the chanting and yelling at the top of my lungs, annoying patrons of public buildings experience you do.

I may not be the consummate candidate yet, but I am definitely the one with the experience and temperament to do the job in Washington. How do you think the Democratic Party elected officials in Washington will treat her if she took office? She would get absolutely no support because she and the LaRouche people have shown them absolutely none.

If you are true Democrat out there reading this, tell your friends and family to do their research before they vote. I am confident in the result.

And so am I.

I also want to let you know that Doug Blatt’s speaking style in front of large audiences seems to have advanced to the next level in the short time that I have been watching him speak. As I mentioned, I videoed all of the speakers at the Fort Bend Democrats’ Candidates’ Forum, and The Blattster showed up and stayed to the bitter end.

Kesha Rogers, however, was not there. She was given the boot by the Club’s Executive Director who made the correct executive decision that Rogers is guilty of the crime of Speaking While Influenced by Lyndon LaRouche (SWILL).

That crime is punishable by permanent exile.

Here is a short video clip I shot of Doug Blatt who had to keep it short because as he spoke the librarians were coming in with spiked clubs ready to enforce their sacred rule: Closing Time.




See what I mean? A new improved Doug Blatt who seems comfortable at the podium.

Now we have to see if we can get him to do that gravelly thing with his voice that Nick Lampson was so good at. You know, the voice thing that got Howard Dean in so much trouble all those years ago.
Labels: CD-22, Doug Blatt, US Congress


posted by Hal at 6:23 PM

1 Comments:
Sam Davis said...
Kesha needs to be banned from all Democratic meetings until the primary. We need to take care of our own and there's no dooubt, Doug is a damn good Democrat.
-Some pictures of the cult in Seattle. I guess with no money for lit, there is no need for a card table shrine. This is like the old days when we carried our lit in one hand and just followed someone down the street.



http://photography-on-the.net/forum/....php?p=9593967



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have no problems with that Tony....great shots BTW, really like the urban scenes...."Impeach Obama"..LOL....Doesn't matter who's President....Impeach 'em!!!....maybe we need a King, that way Larouche's kids will have to overthrow a whole monarchy.....I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but I'm sorry, I'm gonna go there...Those Larouche kids are fricken NUTTY.....Can't win for losing. (Maybe I'm just getting old)


-Sarah Palin and Lyn? Obviously not a Palin fan.



http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/th...rt=40&tstart=0



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I Predict Sarah Palin will be the Tea Party candidate for President in 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032.. why I bet she'll be a Presidential candidate more times than Lyndon LaRouche, Gus Hall and Pat Paulsen combined. What a better country this would be today if only Pat Paulsen had won in 1968..... lmao

After I write these posts I can't help but think back to that Campaigner we had with the article "Our Direct March to World Power". This is the current version for all of the LYM and LYMettes since the Campaigner is no longer published.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

sancho 02-16-2010 02:57 AM

Breakdown Crisis
 
"It's a breakdown crisis," [LaRouche] concluded, "and they're all lying their heads off. And they're silly, on top of everything else!"

Indeed.

xlcr4life 02-16-2010 07:57 PM

Sancho I can't tell if Lyn is talking about Boomer LCer or LYMsters who have flown the coop recently.

King has some interesting material to remind one of just how sick Lyn and the cult are.

http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larou...berg-judas.htm

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Continuing to kick your victim even after he's dead...
LaRouche claims Kronberg was a "Judas"



The below statement by Lyndon LaRouche was issued as a Nov. 3, 2009 press release by the LaRouche Political Action Committee (LPAC) under the headline "Morality and Former Associates." The introductory sentence said that LaRouche had "provided the following point, in response to an associate's request for relevant supplement."

I regard this as one of the most damning of LaRouche's recent self-revelations, and present commentary here to prove it.

The original text of LaRouche statement can be read on the LPAC website (if LaRouche's spin-doctoring assistants don't persuade him to rewrite it or remove it from the web).

LaRouche: "In my own life, since the time about the age of nearly 15 years, about sixty-five years ago, when I rightly rejected Euclidean geometry on correct moral premises at that time, I have seen many generations come and go. Since more recently than that, since March 1, 1968, the organization with which I have been associated since that time, has seen approximately two successive young-adult generations come into the ranks of that association, and, in numerous cases, also go.

"For that, our commitment will be greatly honored among the knowledgeably wise for generations to come.

"For those former associates who still live, but have abandoned our association, a great existential paradox confronts a certain some of them, respecting their dismal choice of a current life's moral outcome. This confronts, especially those who have turned against us, in deserting the moral commitment which they had once adopted. In many wars, once brave men "went over to the other side," out of opportunism. For the latter, life has lost its moral meaning, for reason of the elementary, existential fact, that they have chosen a morally doomed destiny for their continued existence.

"In any case, the "side" those who became enemies, serving the side of Adorno, Arendt, and the Congress for Cultural Freedom, have chosen a virtual Hell. We are now confronted with the on-rush of the very early, general physical-breakdown-crisis of the cause which they have presently adopted. A nation which chose the pathway they have chosen is certainly a doomed destiny; only the course we have chosen, together with those, as in the United States, who have joined the cause of that mass strike, a mass strike akin to that of those who pulled down the DDR in late 1989, will leave this mortal life with justified pride in having lived--lived either in triumph of humanity's or wearing defeat with eternal pride.

"In my lifetime, and in my knowledge of history earlier, I have seen generations come and go. I have witnessed generations which have borne the seeds of an honorable future, and those who have chosen that worse-than-death, to seek wealth and comfort in the delusions which are an opportunistic embrace of corruption. Admittedly, from my own life's experience, I have known many who chose a Judas-like apostasy, and who may have also chosen to hang themselves in one fashion or another. Usually, the choice of apostasy had something to do with "money." The society which they have chosen to serve is, in any case, doomed. We who fight still, are the guidon-bearers of a present or future, victorious humanity.

"Wars of all kinds, are like that. We shall now probably prove victorious, very soon. The others are probably doomed, in one way or another, that also very soon. In the meantime, the essential meaning of one's mortal life, lies, essentially in what comes out of it for generations still to come."
http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larou...erg-judas1.htm

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Kronberg as Judas in the mind of Lyndon LaRouche

"After driving Ken Kronberg (among the most loyal of his followers) to suicide--that is, after betraying Kronberg in the most profound way possible--LaRouche concocted a self-serving narrative in which it was Kronberg who betrayed...LaRouche!"

By Dennis King
Feb. 15, 2010

In a Nov. 3, 2009 press release on his LPAC website (read here or here), LaRouche provides us with a damning self-revelation of his attitude towards Kenneth Lewis Kronberg, the northern Virginia businessman and longtime LaRouche follower who committed suicide in 2007 after his leader dubbed him a failure and suggested that he might as well kill himself.

The Nov. 3 release, signed by LaRouche under the heading "Morality and Former Associates," lashes out at ex-members of his organization who

"chose a Judas-like apostasy, and who may have also chosen to hang themselves in one fashion or another. Usually, the choice of apostasy had something to do with 'money.'"

Although the statement is couched in LaRouche's usual euphemistic language, it's clear that he's referring to Kronberg, the only member of the U.S. LaRouche movement known to have committed suicide during or after a dispute with LaRouche, and whose despair involved, among other things, "money" (LaRouche had run up huge bills at Kronberg's printing company with no intention of ever paying them, and the company was facing bankruptcy as a result).[1]

Given the fact that Kronberg was Jewish, LaRouche's reference to "Judas-like apostasy" is clearly anti-Semitic. The statement, as deconstructed, says that the Jew (Kronberg) put money (pieces of silver, "dirty-Judaical"[2] materialism, etc.) before morality (the Platonic-Christian-LaRouchian values that supposedly stand in sharp contrast to the alleged usurious practices of Jews), and thus had betrayed LaRouche. (Characteristically, LaRouche sees betrayal of himself as the equivalent of betraying Jesus.)

The message is driven home by the sadistic mocking phrase about "those" (i.e., Kronberg) who "may have chosen to hang themselves in one fashion or another." Now, this phrase refers to suicide in general, so why confuse matters by calling suicide a "form of hanging"? Ken Kronberg committed suicide, but he did not hang himself--he jumped off a highway overpass.

Obviously LaRouche is reinforcing his prior reference to Judas, who--according to the Gospels--hung himself after receiving thirty pieces of silver for his treachery (as LaRouche would put it, his "apostasy had something to do with 'money'").

In effect, LaRouche is linking his victim Kronberg to the most hated Jew (by Christians) of all time: Judas the Christ-betrayer, a figure traditionally seen as far more evil than either Pontius Pilate, who condemned Jesus to die, or the Roman soldiers who nailed Jesus to the cross.[3]

"What is a Jew good for?"

This interpretation of LaRouche's statement fits like a glove with his past pronouncements about the Jews. For instance, he wrote in "The Case of Ludwig Feuerbach" (The Campaigner, Dec. 1973, p. 37; read it here) that "Judaism is not a true religion, but only a half-religion, a curious appendage and sub-species of Christianity." LaRouche went on to claim that Judaism evolved as an "ideological abstraction" of the "Roman merchant-usurer who had not evolved to the state of Papal enlightenment, a half-Christian, who had not developed a Christian conscience...."

Five years later, he wrote: "The problem among Jews is ancient. The B'nai B'rith today resurrects the tradition of the Jews who demanded the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Jews who pleaded with Nero to launch the 'holocaust' against the Christians" ("New Pamphlet to Document the Cult Origins of Zionism," New Solidarity, Dec. 8, 1978; read it here).

And in this same 1978 article we find the following remarkable passage--aimed specifically at LaRouche's Jewish followers--which sheds much light on how LaRouche could welcome Kronberg into the organization, exploit his talents and dedication for over 35 years, and then fiercely turn on him and wish him dead.

In this passage LaRouche demands that the Jewish members join him wholeheartedly in denouncing Zionism as an "evil, racist doctrine" and proclaims:

"You have no right to hide behind the whimpering, morally degraded profession: 'I am only one little person...' You are personally, individually accountable for the ultimate consequences of what you do or fail to do....Either you take responsibility for the ultimate consequences of your conduct or you have no moral right to complain against whatever evil the world's developments bestow upon you.

"If you say, 'As a Jew, I must be concerned primarily with what is good for Jews,' you are already on the pathway to becoming a Nazi. You were better advised to ask yourself, 'What is a Jew good for? What can a Jew contribute to humanity generally which obliges humanity to value the Jew?'"[4]

LaRouche contradicts himself

The Nov. 3, 2009 press release shows that LaRouche has not changed his attitude towards Jews over the past three decades. It also reveals that LaRouche's efforts to blame Ken Kronberg's suicide on Ken's widow Molly are a total farce. The Molly-the-witch blame game is based on the premise that Ken was a loyal LaRouche follower driven to despair by Molly's constant pressure on him to betray LaRouche. And that, torn between his wife and LaRouche, Kronberg underwent a process of moral degeneration and killed himself.[5]

Apart from ignoring the fact that LaRouche himself had suggested that Kronberg commit suicide, the blame-Molly scenario is totally at variance with LaRouche's formulation in the Nov. 3 press release--that Kronberg was an actively evil "Judas" who betrayed LaRouche because of greed for money and an underlying moral turpitude.

Perhaps if Molly Kronberg's libel and harassment suit against LaRouche in the U.S. Federal Court for the Eastern District of Virginia (read here and here) ever goes to trial, LaRouche will be asked about the glaring contradiction between the evil-Molly scenario and the evil-Ken scenario. And I think it could be conclusively established at that trial, based on (a) the record of LaRouche's previous hatred and bullying of Ken and (b) LaRouche's previous history of turning against other businessmen in his org and calling them traitors when they resisted his efforts to loot their assets, that the anti-Ken version represents LaRouche's core viewpoint and that the anti-Molly version is a malicious fabrication based on LaRouche's personal hatred for her, which began over 20 years ago when she testified under subpoena by the government (and did so reluctantly) at his trial for mail fraud and income tax evasion. (LaRouche was convicted and served five years in federal prison; he now absurdly claims--after years of rumination--that Mrs. Kronberg's testimony was the primary cause of his conviction. (In fact, during her brief stint on the witness stand she was only asked about a very minor point in the prosecution's case; any rational person can verify this by reading the full transcript of her testimony here.)

LaRouche's "doublethink"

Aside from its legal implications in Kronberg v. LaRouche, LaRouche's Ken-as-Judas rhetoric sheds much light on how LaRouche's mind works, how he manipulates those around him, and how he manages to evade public outrage over his bigotry and extremism.

First, the Nov. 3 press release is a classic example of LaRouche inverting reality in his own head and then striving to establish the resulting inversion-narrative in the minds of his followers (usually with success) and in the minds of outsiders (more successfully than one would think--the media and the public are unaccustomed to the Orwellian "Newspeak" and "doublethink" at which LaRouche excels, and sometimes end up being bamboozled as if they were the audience at a David Copperfield magic show).

In this instance, after driving Kronberg (among the most loyal of his followers) to suicide--that is, after betraying Kronberg in the most profound way possible--LaRouche turned around and concocted a self-serving narrative in which it was Kronberg who betrayed and tried to kill (in an indirect "Judas" fashion) LaRouche himself!

Turning the facts inside out in this manner--in order to blame the victim--is also what LaRouche did in the late 1970s when he claimed that Hitler was put into power in Germany by a cabal of London Jewish bankers who supposedly were a hundred times worse than the Nazis, and who used their Hitler golem to stampede the Jews into fleeing to Palestine and establishing a "Nazi" state that would help the Jewish bankers trigger a worldwide nuclear holocaust in which billions of people would die.[6]

LaRouche and his follower are using the same doublethink today in their attacks on President Obama as a "fascist." This propaganda campaign has used posters of Obama sporting a Hitler moustache, and allegations that the Obama health care plan is worse than Hitler's health policies.[7]

And let's see the results: Through the Hitler-as-oligarchical-agent inversion, LaRouche was able to motivate followers who still thought of themselves as leftists on some residual level, to go forth and proclaim a crypto-Nazi ideology and form alliances with Nazi war criminals and Latin American death squad leaders while telling themselves that what they were doing was really "anti-fascist."

Through the Obama-is-a-fascist inversion, LaRouche contributed to keeping the media confused about the ideological motives behind the 2009 protests against the President's healthcare proposals in which LaRouche's org joined forces with the racist, farthest-right elements in the Tea Party movement (the ones who came to rallies with guns and Confederate flags and who eagerly picked up on LaRouche's Orwellian language as a useful smokescreen for their own extremism). To this day, there is public confusion--thanks in part to the deceptive political labels used by both the LaRouchians and the Tea Party activists (and the cynical spin doctoring by Republican Party pundits and talk show hosts who claimed that LaRouche was actually a "Democrat" and/or a "far leftist" in spite of his 35-year record of running dirty-tricks operations for the Republicans)--over what really happened at all those public meetings around the country on health care reform, and how ObamaCare was derailed.

And via the Kronberg inversion-narrative in its various forms--a plot by Ken, a plot by Molly, or a plot by both--LaRouche was able to completely squelch the discontent of his followers over his treatment of Ken, and to whip up some of them to mindlessly hate Molly; for instance, there was the appalling behavior on the web of "revenire" (user name of a LaRouchian whose identity will be revealed in good time), who kept posting suggestions that Molly should "join the jumper brigade," i.e., commit suicide as her husband did, or as the LaRouchians claim that Jeremiah Duggan did. More important, LaRouche guaranteed, through his projection onto Molly of his own reprehensible behavior, that his followers--even those who had been Molly's friends--would not give serious consideration to her side of the story, and that even those who were not personally fanatical enough to behave like "revenire" would at least put the tragedy of Ken's suicide out of mind, as if it were a bad dream.

Barbed-wire fences in the mind

The Nov. 3 statement also shows that LaRouche didn't just target Kronberg as a boomer who incidentally happened to be Jewish, but targeted him as a Jew. There is no other way to interpret LaRouche's description of Kronberg as a money-grubbing "Judas" devoid of "morality" (i.e., lacking a "Christian conscience," as LaRouche put it in his Feuerbach article).

I commented on the anti-Semitism behind LaRouche's hatred of Kronberg in "Lyndon LaRouche and the Art of Inducing Suicide" (2007). Although LaRouche had not at that point stated his feelings regarding Kronberg as clearly as in the Nov. 3 statement, I think I got it right: LaRouche is a fantasy Hitler who cannot express his sadism towards Jews in the ultimate way since he lacks the requisite political power. He therefore acts it out in the only way available to him. Using his skill at psychological manipulation, he entices Jews into his cult--his concentration camp of the spirit. There, he sadistically puts them through hoops, emotionally terrorizes them, creates ideological barbed-wire fences in their minds, uses them as his most extreme anti-Semitic propagandists, tries to prevent them from breeding (via his forced abortion policy), and then when they are getting old and are no longer especially useful, spurns them and even suggests that they commit suicide.[8]

Sure, the non-Jews in the cult are also grotesquely mistreated, but if you track the history of the LaRouche movement there is a special quality to Der Abscheulicher's relationship with his house Jews (who for decades have played leading roles in his national office and security staffs). Only they are expected to ritualistically humiliate themselves over and over by denying their own core identity in the most extreme manner. Only they were told by LaRouche--during the org's lunge to the far right in the 1970s--that they had a special obligation to follow him or else they would have "no moral right to complain against whatever evil the world's developments bestow upon you."

LaRouche never employed these ethnic guilt and veiled ethnic threat tactics to any significant degree on his non-Jewish followers--those of WASP, Italian, Irish, African-American or Hispanic backgrounds (in the U.S. organization) and those in the various foreign branches. When LaRouche tried to guilt-trip or terrify the non-Jews, he did it on the basis of their individual psychology--not by appealing to ethnic or denominational Original Sin.

The double standard is most shocking in reference to the LaRouche movement in Germany. LaRouche never required his Teutonic thugs based in Wiesbaden to ask themselves, "What is a German good for? What can a German contribute to humanity generally which obliges humanity to value the German?" And LaRouche never advanced any theory of German collective guilt for the Holocaust (indeed, he and his wife Helga have always ferociously opposed the idea[9]), focussing instead on the supposed obligation of "the Jew" to atone for special sins under penalty of retribution by "humanity."

LaRouche's smoke screen

LaRouche's coming out in the open with his hatred of Ken Kronberg as a Jew, shows the ultimate bankruptcy of the "Yiddish Renaissance" tactic that was developed by Kronberg and some of the other LaRouche Jews in the 1980s and 1990s (initially with good intentions, I believe) to develop some private space for themselves and encourage a more positive attitude within the organization towards Jewish history and the Jewish faith.

LaRouche allowed them to pursue their interest in the Yiddish Renaissance--a cultural and artistic movement that began among Eastern European Jews in the late 19th century--and even allowed a few articles on the topic to be published or circulated informally among members. Probably he figured it would be a useful safety valve and might serve as a smoke screen to help keep his organization off the German government's watchlist of far-right hate groups.

But he also began to twist and distort the research findings of the Yiddish Renaissance enthusiasts by devising a new brand of doublethink. Articles began to appear in his publications that urged Jews to dedicate themselves on this earth to promoting German culture and German music (hmmm...like in the death camp slave orchestras that played for the SS officers?) and to vehemently reject Zionism, striving instead to become--even after all that happened in the camps--good and loyal servants of the German nation.

In light of this grotesque perversion of what Ken Kronberg (the prime mover of the Yiddish Renaissance research program) had intended--and considering what ultimately happened to Kronberg, and what happened to Jeremiah Duggan (also a Jew)--it should be clear that the LaRouche org's anti-Semitism cannot be ameliorated from within. There will never be an epiphany through which LaRouche and his inner ring suddenly decide that they love the Jews. The only rational (and moral) path for Jewish and non-Jewish boomers still trapped in the LaRouche org is to leave--now, today, this hour--and tell the world EVERYTHING THEY KNOW about LaRouche's crimes, intrigues and hate-filled political agenda.

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[1] On Kronberg's desk, after his suicide, a letter was found addressed to the employees of his PMR Printing Company--most of whom where not LaRouche followers--explaining that he had no choice but to close the company. Within a week of his death PMR closed its doors due to the financial difficulties resulting from the LaRouche organization's unwillingness to pay its bills.

[2] In his 1973 essay "The Case of Ludwig Feuerbach," LaRouche used Karl Marx's infamous term "dirty-Judaical":

"Marx's 'dirty-Judaical' is emphasized here both to underline the characterization of Feuerbach's lapse in the 'Theses,' and to emphasize the epistemological significance of the infantile object-elation of the devoutly-alienated religious Jew. The significance of the brutally-sadistic moral castration of the Jewish boy by the domineering 'Jewish mother' is the basis for one of the most horrifying models of male sexual impotence, which expresses itself obsessively in the 'business Jew.' He suffers a hideous sense of secret worthlessness which would be revealed without power over the fixed object in its (fetishistic) commodity-form." (See note 78 on p. 37 here.)

[3] In Christian tradition, Judas the archetypal treacherous Jew suffers eternal damnation in Hell; in LaRouche's press release, Kronberg and various former high-level LaRouchians (and here LaRouche is not just talking about Jews) go to a "virtual Hell" (see note 5 below).

[4] LaRouche attacks Zionism and the idea of "what is good for Jews," but to my knowledge he has never questioned the right to national sovereignty, a national consciousness or a national interest of any states except the Jewish one, Israel, and the United Kingdom (which he believes is controlled by a Jewish financial oligarchy). LaRouche is a staunch promoter of German, Spanish, Paraguayan, Argentinian, Brazilian, and just about any other nationalism of an existing state (including, until the end of apartheid, the nationalism of South Africa's Afrikaners). As to the cultural distinctness and desire for freedom or autonomy of peoples trapped in someone else's sovereign (and usually authoritarian) state, the LaRouche org has often attacked such peoples in the most rabid and racist language in order to curry favor with the government in question. Targets of such rhetoric have included tribal peoples in the Brazilian Amazon, Mayas in the Guatemalan highlands, Christian and animist minorities in the Sudan, and the Tibetan people. For documentation of most of this, read my report on the LaRouche movement's history in the international shadow world of neo-fascism and human rights abuse here. For the LaRouchian attitude towards the Tibetans, who are seeking their freedom in the teeth of the Chinese communist regime's rampant brutality, read "Tibet Is a Tool of the British Empire!" (LPAC website, April 10, 2008).

[5] In a repulsively insensitive letter to Mrs. Kronberg on the day of her husband's funeral, LaRouche wrote that "in the storms of life, we [members of the LaRouche org] either cling to that dedication of our living, or we were no more than virtually beasts" (note the use of the past tense "were," which suggests that he means Ken Kronberg). As to LaRouche's choice of the word "beasts," I can't help noting that for several years prior to Kronberg's suicide, LaRouche had been referring to the mostly Jewish neoconservatives as "beast men." And his other epithet for the neocons, "children of Satan," also fits with his accusations against Ken Kronberg, since, according to the Gospel of Luke, Satan entered into Judas and caused him to betray Jesus.

[6] LaRouche asserted the core of this thesis in "Hitler: Runaway British Agent" (New Solidarity, Jan. 10, 1978; read the full text here) and elaborated it in later articles.

[7] This is LaRouchian Holocaust denial expressed indirectly through comparisons that trivialize Hitler's crimes to the point where they seem almost benign. Yet we should be clear on what Hitler's health care policies really were: the killing of mentally disabled and mentally ill patients (even "Aryan" ones) on grounds of eugenic necessity; the gassing of Jews at supposed public-health "delousing" facilities in the camps; hideous medical experiments conducted on Jews and other camp inmates (without anesthesia); the killing of slave laborers in the V-2 rocket factory at Nordhausen through starvation, beatings, overwork and disease (under the supervision of LaRouchian hero Arthur Rudolph); and forced abortions for supposedly inferior races. (For more on LaRouche's efforts to sanitize the Nazi record on health care, read here.)

However, in the eyes of the LaRouchians and of Tea Party extremists who adopted LaRouche's Orwellian language in 2009, Hitler's record on "health care" COMPARES FAVORABLY to the attempt of an African-American president, elected by a majority of American voters and operating within the law, to persuade Congress to extend health insurance to the uninsured, provide portability of plans from job to job, and prevent private insurers from denying people health insurance because of pre-existing conditions. It is appalling that the media never bothered to adequately explain just how repulsive this LaRouche/Tea Party trickery was, and that Democratic Party politicians never responded with appropriate outrage.

[8] The morning briefing of April 11, 2007 (a transcription by one Tony Papert of remarks by LaRouche) clearly referred to the "print shop" [Kronberg] as being the organization's "worst" failure, and then suggested that the Boomers [meaning Kronberg and other older Jewish and non-Jewish members regarded by LaRouche as useless or as failures] should shape up and become "human...[u]nless they want to commit suicide." In a follow-up statement later that morning, under his own name, LaRouche raved against "Boomer corruption" and said that "[s]ome among us [would] rather commit virtual suicide than admit I have been right on these matters."

This was not the first time that LaRouche and the more fanatical of his followers had discussed in a harsh or mocking manner the real or possible suicide of supposedly unworthy or evil people. And the anti-Semitic (and generally totalitarian) outlook beneath this rhetoric was made crystal clear in a 1983 New Solidarity editorial on the suicide of Jewish writer Arthur Koestler ("Koestler Takes His Own Advice; Kissinger to Follow?") which ends with the following Nazi-style quip:

"[W]hy should the worthwhile vast majority of the human race settle for attempts to solve its antisocial problems on a case-by-case basis? Why not get organized to settle with such characters all at once?" (Read full text here.)

Since LaRouche is pretty much the absolute dictator of his publishing empire, I doubt the unsigned editorial re the Koestler suicide would have been published without his explicit personal approval. Certainly he has never repudiated it. Nor has Nancy Spannaus--the editor of New Solidarity in 1983, and the author in 2007 of a treacly "In Memorium" for Ken Kronberg (celebrating him not as an independent human being but as a servant of the Jew-hater who drove him to his death)--ever repudiated this call for mass killing of Jews and other "characters" on the LaRouche movement's enemies list.

[9] See Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., "The Truth About German 'Collective Guilt,'" Part I, New Solidarity, Oct. 10, 1978; and Helga Zepp-LaRouche, "The Zionists' Holocaust Today," New Solidarity, Jan. 26, 1979.

The other side of this is to think about how the cult has to accept this as their Gospel as part of a never ending descent into lunacy. Clinical studies indeed for our future thesis writers on cults, daily life as usual for the cult.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

chator 02-16-2010 08:03 PM

Is LaRouche economically literate?
 
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Originally Posted by sancho (Post 383974)
"It's a breakdown crisis," [LaRouche] concluded, "and they're all lying their heads off. And they're silly, on top of everything else!"

Indeed.

I've been reading a chapter out of a book that describes and defines terminology used to describe economic phenomena. Based on that, i have to ask, Is LaRouche economically literate? Here are some examples;

Crisis: a brief period of acute disturbance in the business world, the prevailing features of which are the breakdown of credit and prices, and the destruction of confidence.

Crash/Collapse: used as descriptive of the sudden breakdown which marks the advent of a crisis

Depression: describes a condition of much longer duration than a crisis, or panic; and cannot be designated as financial. It pertains to industry and commerce, and includes the whole field of production and exchange.

Poverty: describes a permanent loss or abatement of prosperity.

If there is one term LaRouche abuses too often it is crisis, a real crisis is like the one Henry Paulson, Ben Bernake, and George W. Bush faced in September 2008. A crisis doesn't happen every couple of months for years on end, neither does a collapse. It seems Lyn often cann't make up his mind which adjective to use, so he uses them all, interchangably, with variation. The U.S. has not been collapsing for 30+ years, either it has been in a depression for that long, or it hasn't. BTW Depressions usually, historically, have not lasted that long.

sancho 02-17-2010 12:09 AM

The Pavlovian Crisis
 
The word "crisis" is one of those stimuli which set the LaRouchians salivating.

I know the so-called boomers are brain dead and biding their time waiting to die and be processed into Soylent Green crackers for Helga's mutts, but I cannot believe that after last year's October prediction failed miserably to materialize, there is a single person under the age of thirty remaining in the LaRouche organization.

Let's review: a tale of two arguments.

(1) Real World

Lyn said x would happen no later than y.

Months after y, still no x.

Lyn is wrong.

(2) LaRouche World

Months after y, still no apparent x.

But x did occur no later than y in some manner that escapes ordinary mortals.

Lyn said x would happen no later than y.

Lyn is right.

A brain under thirty should be plastic enough to snap out of (2).

*c r i s i s*

chator 02-17-2010 06:24 AM

Neo-Nazis join the Party! Tea Party, that is.
 
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Originally Posted by chator (Post 383788)
Sorry Lyn, the 'tea party' movement has just been hijacked...by Sarah Palin! http://politics.nashvillepost.com/20...arty-movement/

While the corporate neo-cons try to capture from above the momentum of conservative political resurgance that was the grass-roots tea-party movement. Neo-nazis and anti-government "patriots" also want in.


Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs Crash Ron Paul’s Tea Party

By Casey Gane-McCalla, February 16, 2010


The Tea Party, which started off as a Libertarian protest against taxes and government, has turned into a right wing, corporate sponsored, racist hate-fest. Three groups have joined the Libertarian founders of the Tea Party movement to add money, racism, hatred and conspiracy theory based paranoia to the Tea Pot.

The first group is the Neo-Cons. The same people behind the Bush administration have decided to use the Tea Party movement to put the Republicans back in power. They are doing this, using the former mouthpieces for the Bush White House, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and conservative radio.

Neo-Cons like Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin have had prominent roles speaking at Tea Party events, and Neo-Con pundits, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck have been prominent cheerleaders for the movement.

Tea Parties are funded by FreedomWorks, which is run by Dick Armey. Armey is the author for the contract for America and was house majority leader for the Republicans during the nineties. He worked closely with Tom Delay and Newt Gingrich in congress.

The Neo-Con infiltration of the Tea Party is also known as astro-turfing. When well-funded political insiders try and pass off a well-orchestrated political movement funded by lobbyists as a grass roots, people’s movement it is called “astro-turing” (fake grass-roots).

The next group that has managed to infiltrate the tea party has been the Neo-Nazis. The white nationalists have seen the anger over a Black President and the mostly white make up of the tea party protesters and have decided to use the Tea Parties as a vehicle to spout their racist views and recruit new members.

Neo-Nazis speak openly about their involvement and support for the Tea Party movement on the White Supremacist Site, Stormfront. Here are some quotes from white supremacists regarding Tea Party events.
One thing I noticed about the Tea Party crowds is that they are 99% WHITE!
These are my people and they are your people as well. Just because they haven’t fully awakened doesn’t mean that they are our enemy. The polls on these people is that they do not support any (R) or (D) candidate, but instead support the person who is more constitutional.
My suggestion to all you do-nothings is that you join your local Tea-Party at make changes from within instead of criticizing from the outside. I love my fellow white neighbor and deep down these good Tea-partying white folks want the the basic same freedoms and rights as we all do. I say we establish ourselves in there before the filthy frikin joos do.
I don’t give 2 ****s about the RINO’s or the libs but the majority of the tea party people I’ve met are now at least willing to listen to the WN viewpoint. I’ve converted several of them (especially on the Jew issue) and the immigration issue is a no brainer.
I’ve attended a few of the Tea Party gatherings and have found quite a few racially aware folks in attendance. I use these gatherings to wake folks up to the ‘Jew’ problem in this country with many leaving say “Hmmm” and following up with me via email for further mentoring on the subject.There are people I met during the Ron Paul campaign who were “clowns”, and now are active White Nationalists. I’m not willing to pass up any opportunity I have to make more of them. It only takes me a few minutes a day to make either subtle or blatant racially-aware posts on forums filled with Tea Partyers. If I make even one new White Nationalist, it was worth it.
After a Neo-Nazi caused controversy by pulling out a Hitler flag at a Tea Party event, Neo-Nazis began commenting on Stormfront that White Nationalists should not use their Hitler and Swastika flags for fear of scaring off potential White Nationalist recruits because the Jews have sullied the image of their proud Fuehrer and the Swastika and instead should use Confederate Flags and “Don’t Tread On Me” shirts.

The Tea Party’s founder, Ron Paul has his own problem with white supremacist and Neo-Nazi supporters. Paul has received extensive support from Stormfront and other Neo-Nazi groups and has yet to distance himself from these Nazis groups, even taking a picture with Stormfront founder, Don Black and his son Derek. (see above picture)
Bill White, the commander of the Nazi group, has alleged that Paul’s ties to neo-Nazi groups are deeper than campaign contributions and photographs.
I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.
Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia
Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.
The last and perhaps most dangerous group to crash the Tea Party is the Neo-McVeighs. This group subscribes to many Neo-Con talking points and many members of this group subscribe to neo-Nazi beliefs but the Neo-McCveighs are characterized by militia based anger, a fierce devotion to high powered weapons an a strong belief in anti-government conspiracy theories. Another term for the Neo-McVegihs is the “patriot” movement.
The Neo-McVeighs believe in a New World Order conspiracy of a secret society that will turn the world into a one world socialist government while setting up concentration camps for dissenters and taking away the guns of true patriots in the USA.

Many of the Neo-Cons have adopted Neo-McVeigh code words to incite paranoia in the Tea Party. Sarah Palin has spoken about death panels, Glenn Beck has discussed FEMA concentration camps on his show and Pat Buchanan has openly talked about the New World Order, saying:
The West is disappearing into a New World Order, and against globalism, the Tea Party folks may represent our last best hope.
Right Wing Christian fundamentalist, Pat Robertson wrote a book the New World Order which was based on the Jewish/Mason conspiracy to take over the world.

One example of the Neo-McVeighs are the Oathkeepers, a group of militia based ex-military and policemen who have taken an oaths to not cooperate in the “New World Order.” One prominent Oathkeeper, Charles Dyer was recently arrested and charged with raping a seven-year-old girl. Authorities found a grenade launcher and explosives residue in his apartment. Here’s a quote from Dyer on the New World Order.
They’re trying to bring in the new world order and destroy our sovereignty. That means they are the domestic enemy I swore to defend and fight against to defend my constitution. And, I’m willing to put my life on the line to defend this country. And, I’m asking anyone who’s taken the oath to do the same.
The Neo-McVeighs have very similar ideologies and backgrounds to their namesake, Timothy McVeigh, who was responsible for the largest domestic terrorist attack in U.S. history. They both use a lot of pro-constitution and pro-gun rhetoric, often come from a military background and they are extremely anti-government and paranoid about a new world order.

Both Newsweek and The New York Times both wrote pieces about the high level of New World Order conspiracy theorists and the paranoia and anger they are creating in the Tea Party, claiming that “the party movement is dominated by conspiracy kooks” and that Tea Party court jester, Glenn Beck “frequently echoes Patriot(Neo-McVeigh) rhetoric, discussing the possible arrival of a “New World Order” and arguing that Obama is using a strategy of manufactured crisis to destroy the economy and pave the way for dictatorship.”

The Neo-Cons maybe creating a Frankenstein they cannot control with their constant funding and Fox News promotion of the Tea Party. The Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs hold Neo-Cons in the same contempt as they hold the government. The Neo-Cons have tried to say the protests are against taxes, which is unlikely given that Obama has only proposed raising taxes on the riches one percent, which only applies to the Neo-Cons themselves not their followers and the Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs.
The Neo-Cons differ greatly with the Libertarians, Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs on foreign policy. While Neo-Cons strongly support Israel, believe in continuing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and starting a war with Iran, the Libertarians, Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs are anti-Israel and against foreign wars.

The Libertarians have begun to speak out against the Neo-Cons. Will they speak out against the Neo-Nazis and the Neo-McVeighs? Will the Neo-Cons address the New World Order paranoia they are putting into the Teabaggers heads? Will anyone in the Tea Party stand up to the both blatant and subtle racism that the Ne0-Nazis and regular old racists are bringing to the Tea Party? Will the Neo-McVeighs turn on their Neo-Cons sponsors or create another Oklahoma City massacre? Is there any voice of reason in the Tea Party at all? If so I’d like to hear from them.

Source: http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane...uls-tea-party/


Should Lyn and LYM be included as part of the Neo-McVeigh "Patriots"? Based on their rhetoric, perhaps they should be. Or maybe their proper categorization is in the Neo-Nazi white nationalist camp? Since they are still willing to brandish Hitler and Nazi imagery, while even the Neo-Nazis themselves are shying away from this.

xlcr4life 02-18-2010 05:03 PM

Larouche Palooza 2010!



Our direct march to world power continues!!!!



-We have seen in the past where the cult's card table shrines have been called "Hate tables". If 1984 or Animal Far, are ever rewritten with Lyn and the cult in it, I see a cameo role for them. The article is funny in that we see an "information table" which gives no information when asked.



http://theguardsman.com/2010/02/laro...f-hate-speech/



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LaRouche posters spark charges of hate speech
Posted on 11 February 2010 by Greg Zeman, The Guardsman
Shields for Congress campaign spotlights college speech policy
By Greg Zeman
The Guardsman


Summer Shields for Congress campaign staff operate an information booth at Ocean campus on Feb. 2. Some materials displayed by the campaign stirred controversy among City College faculty and staff. RAMSEY EL-QARE / THE GUARDSMAN

Campaign materials printed by the LaRouche Political Action Committee and distributed at an on-campus information booth by the Summer Shields for Congress campaign have inspired controversy at City College.

Shields is a self-proclaimed “LaRouche Democrat” running in the 8th Congressional District for the seat currently held by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.

Joelle Wright of the LPAC said Shields receives political support from the committee and that they endorse him as a candidate.

One particularly incendiary poster depicts President Obama drawn as a parrot with the words “Obama is a cracker” emblazoned across the bottom. Shields insisted the meaning of the poster is purely political and not at all related to race.

“He’s a puppet. He’s not his own man,” Shields said of Obama. “This man is working on behalf of an entity that is against a large portion of this population, and that is the recognition coming out across the board inside the United States.”

While Shields did not say explicitly that Obama is a cracker, he did say, “I consider him a parrot.” When pressed to explain why the word “cracker” was used instead of “parrot” on his campaign materials, Shields said, “You know what it is? It’s Obama saying, ‘I’m a cracker! I’m a cracker!’”

Delante Bess, an LPAC activist and Shields campaign organizer, was less equivocal in his explanation of the controversial image.

“If you really want to get into the history of it, you look at slaves and slave masters,” Bess said. “Masters used a house slave to whip into shape the other slaves — to put them into order. It was a way of controlling those slaves.”

Bess added that he views Obama as a puppet.

Shields’ campaign staff, while operating an information booth on Feb. 2, refused to comment on the image or any other aspect of the campaign, claiming they did not “give interviews.” They directed questions to the Web site, but did not specify whether they meant the Shields for Congress Web site or the LPAC site.

Shields said as a general policy, lower-level staff do not speak with reporters. Both Shields and Bess maintained that the policy was nothing more than a “delegation of responsibility.”

But some City College students, like Marquis, who declined to give his last name, also tried to get answers from the booth staff and received none.

“Don’t you think it’s kind of weird for a white person to call a black person a cracker?” Marquis asked the campaign staff, who looked at him and said nothing.

“Leave it to a white person to make a hierarchy of blackness,” Marquis said.

City College trustee Chris Jackson is not happy about the posters, but said there is little that can be done about them. Under City College’s current policy, outside groups only need to sign a form to distribute materials on campus.

“There really is no policy to kick people off the campus for doing hate speech. We had a policy that would actually remove these people, but we were sued by the Jews for Jesus,” Jackson said, referring to Jews for Jesus v. Fotch, which decided City College’s current free speech policy.

“I did not vote for that, not even to settle, because I thought it really sent the message to everybody: come one come all. Do what you want on campus, if you get kicked off, then sue. It’s kind of like inviting all the agitators to our campus to do the most outrageous thing possible to get a payday,” Jackson added.

Shields claimed the controversial posters, including a picture of Obama with a moustache added to resemble Adolf Hitler, are useful tools in building a political base for “The LaRouche Plan,” a massive, New Deal-like economic map for America.

The grand scope of the plan includes a youth-based workforce, like the Civilian Conservation Corps, and the construction of a magnetically-levitated super-train from Alaska to Tierra Del Fuego, the southern tip of South America.

“We have the potential to put in place policies we never imagined, and it’s typified by the rail-link,” Shields said, adding that other economies like those of Russia, India and China were reshaping the world. “The U.S could be playing a crucial role in that, and if I have my way with the campaign, we will be.”

The general stance of the campaign on the posters is that they are protected free-speech and intended to be humorous.

“You provoke irony to get the population to move,” Bess said. “If you want to communicate the highest, profound, insightful conceptions to human beings, they are more willing to assimilate ideas when you use comedy.”

Jackson isn’t laughing. “We cannot kick them off, we can only ask them to sign the form — which calls into question: Why would anybody ever sign a form when there is no penalty for not doing it


-Some anger at the carpetbagging and kinship here.



http://www.texasgopvote.com/blog/cry...theories-02131



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have said before that crypto-libertarianism is not real Libertarianism, nor is it Republicanism, no matter how hard they scream it or hurl insults at those who disagree. What is; however, true is that they are a peculiar coalition of Ron Paulistas (wacky on their own), LaRouche types, bigots and other government conspiracy theorists. The more they talk the more they expose themselves. They believe in global conspiracies fomented by radio talk show host Alex Jones. Their theories range from bizarre to so wacky they make UFO abductions seem believable by comparison!


-http://www.rightsidenews.com/201002138654/politics-and-economics/friday-afternoon-roundup-the-fall-of-the-house-of-kennedy.html



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This kind of thing is not limited to just the Paulians, as the following Gateway Pundit story reports, but the Paulians are the most aggressive in the 911 Truther/Far Right sphere.

Like Lyndon LaRouche's followers, their goal is to worm their way into any political organization and then hijack it for their own agenda. They will keep saying that their agenda is conservative, when in fact it's something else entirely. And if you haven't noticed it yet, the media has.


-MySpace brings in the cult.



http://forums.myspace.com/p/4730645/...orums.viewpost



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Most of the 9/11 Truthers type were the far-right libertarian CTer fringe who don't really fit in with the GOP.

No actually they are Lyndon Larouche nuts, but don't worry, that statement wasn't partisan at all.


-More carpetbagging of the tea party.



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eaparty16.html



http://the-reaction.blogspot.com/201...move-over.html



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Listen, when the far right aligns itself with Lyndon Larouche, we are just a few steps away from insanity.


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Further complicating matters, Tea Party events have become a magnet for other groups and causes — including gun-rights activists, anti-tax crusaders, libertarians, militia organizers, the "birthers" who doubt Obama's citizenship, Lyndon LaRouche supporters and proponents of the sovereign states movement.


-Here is something with Lyn in the usual place.



http://againstcommies009.blogspot.co...hree-even.html



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in answering to question 23, it seems even anti-Semites are admitting that it's their lie that they crafted to make it look like Israel is "behind" Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaeda terrorist network. This has been repeated lies by Ron Paul whom himself in Congress had made these very same comments. Even one of Ron Paul's strongest Internet supporters, pseudo-Libertarian and anti-Semite also stated the anti-Semitic libel of Israel "controlling" Osama. This lie has been repeated on white supremacist websites, along with also by the Lyndon LaRouche crowd.


-Maybe this very long blog reprinting of a Paul Gallagher article is part of a plan to make Lyn a Saint when he dies? Does the Monk know the sins of Paul Gallagher and the prison time involved and if there was any attempt to right these wrongs against the vulnerable?



http://fatherdavidbirdosb.blogspot.c...gallagher.html



-We mentioned Summer, now we see a thread about Rachel's takeover.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ne.../posts?page=12



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To: geologist
lol. Ask anyone who has worked at the Pentagon and walked past the guy with the goofy eyes passing out LaRouche pamphlets!!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche


-The cult gets a mention on a Soccer forum.



http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showt...php?p=19909530



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Originally Posted by superdave
Democratic candidates have never gone around currying favor with Larouche supporters.
Exactly. The Larouche people are just a moronic fringe cult with no significance in the Democratic Party. Hell, the Dems routinely have expelled and ruled ineligible would-be Larouche convention delegates for years now. On the other hand, the GOP goes around courting Glenn Beck and the Tea Party nuts.


-This is funny for the disclaimer. What is also interesting is that it looks like Lyn was cribbing from the NY Times. You can do this cheap parlor trick if you have a cult of nobodies who do not read or watch any news except what is fed to them.



http://forums.wallstreetexaminer.com...ode=linearplus



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This from Lyndon Larouche, so if you think him nuts may as well read no further:

-I first laughed at this connecto jabroni, but this is what I was doing a few decades ago with the Rockefellers and what ever was the big news of the day. On the other hand, it is spooky that this jabroni is actually telling the truth about how bad the cult income is and the end of health ins for many members.



http://www.dirkbradshaw.com/?p=1322



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Lyndon LaRouche is calling for a new Pecora Commission

Healthcare crisis is being used as a smokescreen to cover up the crimes/problems in the financial sector


-Lyn is supposed to be somewhere in the movie.



http://www.theamericanbookofthedead....ist-the-movie/



-When you read this PRAVDA forum notice the cartoon our Larouche Jabroni Tesla uses.



http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?p=3062366



-Lyn makes this blog and I smell a great button for the LYMsters to sell.



http://www.newstrib.com/articles/new...9EAA5C69773E5A



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Faletti talked about buttons for Lyndon LaRouche, “who ran for everything and won nothing,”


-What we have here is a person named "Topaz" who writes about "The Jews" and uses a 2004 Larouche press release for his proof .



http://groups.google.com/group/talk....225c975da94284



http://groups.google.com/group/talk....25c975da94284?



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Support me actively on this issue. If you are serious about the
security of our nation and its people, I should be able to count on
you.


<http://www.larouchein2004.net/pages/pressreleases/2002/020918isrblack...>_
prt.htm


-While in the LYM, one must view themself as a "Larouche Organiser". In one article I read the cult member is not described that way, but as a "Larouche Disciple". Click here to see a happy disciple at a California Post Office.

http://theenterprisereport.typepad.c...7ab1e86970c-pi

"Tavistock Grin" anyone?


Also notice that this is one of many recent photos where there is no lit and thus no card table shrine to display bundles of Larouche Gospels. Is there something wrong in the fundraising?


http://theenterprisereport.typepad.c...as-hitler.html



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Tuesday, February 16, 2010
EXCLUSIVE: LYNDON LAROUCHE SUPPORTERS MOCK PRESIDENT OBAMA AS HITLER



By TER Staff

Supporters of Lyndon LaRouche and his Political Action Committee today were stationed outside a U.S. Post Office in Newport Beach, CA holding posters depicting President Barack Obama as Adolph Hitler.

Photos taken this afternoon show two men outside the U.S. Post Office on Camelback Street in the affluent Southern California seaside town. The men were also handing out LaRouche political literature at the same time.

When asked by The Enterprise Report if this was something new, one of the men told us that they had been doing so at other locations, including additional U.S. Post Offices in the city on other occasions.

One of the men, who declined to be interviewed when requested by TER to do so said 'that they were too busy trying to get the word out". When asked if there was a local contact for the group we could speak with, one of the men provided a phone number and the name of a female press representative for the LaRouche group in Washington, DC and told us "all media must go through her".

Richard Maher a spokesman for the U.S. Postal Service in Southern California told TER that any such solicitation on U.S Government property is prohibited by law.

EDITOR NOTE: UPDATE 3:49 PST:

According to an updated statement by USPS spokesman Maher, the distribution of the LaRouche literature at a U.S. Post office MAY NOT be in violation of federal law:

According to Maher:

I don't think it is correct to say these guys are breaking the law.


The Code of Regulations does prohibit commercial advertising, soliciting, gathering signatures or electioneering anywhere on postal property.

But leafletting, picketing, demonstrating, and other similar conduct by members of the public is prohibited only in lobbies and other interior areas of postal facilities. So as long as these guys are not causing a disturbance or impeding customer access and are outside the building, they are not in violation of Title 39."

EDITOR NOTE: : The LaRouche supporters were in fact on U.S. Postal Service property when the photographs were taken. They we also observed handing out the literature on the property as well for a period of time. TER takes no position on their right to do so, we are just reporting the news of them doing so. -Ed.

-More evidence of taking over youth.



http://theoutlawjosie.blogspot.com/2...n-twitter.html



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You don't always want them near you but they certainly make you think about how the world is. None of them, however, have any bearing on the news. News is supposed to be informative, and then your kid sister, the weird neighbor, your obnoxious drunk relative, the hippie at the corner and the Lyndon LaRouche people can all comment on it...on their own time. Their commentary is not news. I have a serious, sincere request for you:


-Another example of a Larouche Jabroni (LOPM)meets the a search of Larouche.



http://www.topix.net/forum/world/cuba/TP871P36BTERTDVE3



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LigerOmniPotentMaxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the Commie Passionate One! The same one that used sexual verbal abuse towards minors!
Yep! Deflect - cchange the subject! LaRouche is a has-been douche bag!!!!!!!!!!
-Doctor Webster Tarpley gets trapped by Lyn.

http://www.meetup.com/WeSurroundThem...hread/8594321/

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I use to listen to his show on the radio and hes on Alex all the time and use to be on coast to coast all the time.

but I had heard it all before. Then I read something that hit and I looked it up!

Webster Tarpley was a spokesperson and press agent for the Lyndon Larouche organization for years. He held various positions, including host of an in-house TV program, finally branching out more on his own in 1996. Now Webster Tarpley also has a radio program on GCN, where he lashes out at the Zionists, and compares President Obama to Hitler, and worse. The program is called "World Crisis Radio"

Why do I name Webster Tarpley as the grand master? Because it makes as much sense as Jesse Ventura's ultimate target of Maurice Strong. Maurice has been a whipping boy of Larouche, Alex Jones, and Webster Tarpley for years. Ventura is buddies with Alex Jones, and the whole thing just passes on by osmosis, a good opportunity for a fake reality cable series.
-More cult play time in California and a very familiar theme about the cult.

http://www.newburyportnews.com/puopi...047223446.html

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No place for hate 'speech'


To the editor:

I was very saddened when I came out of the Newburyport Post Office the other day to find a table set up by Lyndon LaRouche supporters with two huge pictures, one of Adolph Hitler with his little mustache under his nose and one of President Obama with a similar mustache colored in.

Maybe those young people do not really know what they are "saying" with their poster, in terms of the pain and evil that Hitler imposed on the world. More than 400,000 Americans soldiers died in the Second World War to preserve our right for freedom of speech — and those of Lyndon LaRouche.

But when we in the community are trying to counteract bullying and bring more civility to our national discourse, these tactics are hateful and disrespectful to the office of the president. Hate "speech" has no place in Newburyport and citizens need to speak up.

-More anger at the carpetbagging, or is it carpetbegging?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2453394/posts

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2) Lyndon Larouche supporters.
You’ve seen their information tables outside of post offices equally bashing Republicans and Democrats. You’ve seen them infiltrate Tea Parties and Town Halls with their provocative signs that draw news cameras like flies on you know what. If they’re not holding a sign they are still easy to spot by the black sharpie in their pocket, used to draw Hitler mustaches on any politician that’s not Larouche. Remember the Obama Hitler mustache signs? That will be them.


-Hillarious picture of Keesha Rogers and funny comments.



http://juanitajean.com/2010/02/11/how-not-to-do-it/



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How NOT To Do It
February 11, 2010 By: Juanita Jean Category: Goat Rodeos

Kesha Rogers is running for the Democratic nomination in CD 22 – Tom DeLay’s old seat now occupied by empty suit Pete Olson.

Ms. Rogers showed up with her supporters last night at the Democratic primary candidate forum looking for all the world like a cross between a Teabagger and a Scientologist.



Needless to say, she didn’t pick up any votes.

“You know,” starts Juanita, “I can call myself a Junebug, but that don’t make me a Junebug. Kesha can call herself a Democrat but if she supports impeaching Barack Obama, she might as well be a Junebug.”

“Personally, I think she’s taken a few too many trips on that spaceship thingy.”

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june says:
February 11, 2010 at 10:43 am
Juanita Jean, you’ve got me upset now. My brain just can’t understand the stupidity of that sign, particularly from a Democratic candidate. She’s a Democrat about as much as I’m a beauty queen (well, I could be according to the teevee show “Toddlers and Tiaras”). How in he// would anyone think she would be an effective representative? All the signs about impeaching our duly elected president really gets this granny riled, and that ain’t a picture you want imprinted on your mind. The only grounds they have are the ones found in their coffee pots.

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cactusflinthead says:
February 11, 2010 at 11:12 am
Why does that banner remind me of ones I saw on the Midway at the State Fair? Is it the imperative statements or the eerie portrait?
It is going to take several more beers and a lot better corndogs to get me to go in that fun house.

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Chairman Meow says:
February 11, 2010 at 11:30 am
There’s a whole lot of crazy goin’ on there!

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Kellybee says:
February 11, 2010 at 11:34 am
So she’s a “LaRouche” Democrat, huh? Wow, I thought they’d all disappeared to the same place where Pet Rocks, Betamax videotapes and the Ford Pinto went…

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Carol says:
February 11, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Juanita Darlin’, I know we Democrats pride ourselves on having a “Big Tent” but it does have it’s limits.
She’s makin’ Joe Lie-berman look like an insider.

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Juanita Jean says:
February 11, 2010 at 6:57 pm
I forgot to tell y’all. When I told Ms. Rogers to get out of my face because she had kool-aid breath, she didn’t get it. I think that’s the first thing you have to do when you join up with Lyndon LaRouche: a humorectomy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ress=180x62551

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Holy Controlled Demolition Batman! You can't just buy that kind of crazy off the shelf. They have to special order it.
-Remember when we used to talk abut "Hegemony" in the LC? Lyn has achieved that.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/...772bf84b4b03e0

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anyone can show up to a tea party btw... even those larouche (sp?) people who i think most will agree are nuts... but they also did the same thing to bush. they come & stand outside my store...
-Using Lyn as an insult. what else is new?

http://www.thecitizen.com/~citizen0/node/42134

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Where do you get this stuff from SL?

Submitted by JeffC on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 6:16pm.

Lyndon Larouche's web site?


http://forums.thestranger.com/showthread.php?p=175287



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So you are taking the Palin - LaRouche 50 state landslide as a given, and you are claiming to have "credible sources" about the sexuality of the Secretary of State. Do you ever ask your credible sources more interesting questions that the US Secretary of State may be holding in confidence, like, I don't know, diplomatic strategies with China, Pakistan, Iran, and France?

You amuse me.


It took a whole week to let this accumulate, but we find that Lyn and the cult are basically known for hate and laughter and carpetbegging.



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

howie 02-18-2010 05:20 PM

http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/s...setts_primary/

Googly-eyed, Nazi-comparison machine Rachel Brown has “something to put on the table” in her bid to take down “Bailout Barney Frank” (catchy!) and impeach Barack Hussein Obama. It’s steamy and it attracts flies and sometimes she makes pictures out of it! Then she heads off to the LaRouche compound, eats fistfuls of graham crackers, and giggles about people’s “fart holes.” THE END.


Ahhh, a LaRouche Douche.

I expect Barney Frank to issue an apology—to Ms. Brown’s dining table for impugning its intelligence.
Comment by Allan on 02/18/10 at 08:37 AM


The funniest thing is that she apparently thought her encounter with Frank went well! It’s like the cavalry putting General Custer on a recruiting poster for the Indian Wars.
Comment by Betty Cracker on 02/18/10 at 08:51 AM


Dining Room Tables are now 75% Off in the Google ad sidebar.

This woman has totally crashed the market for brain-dead home furnishings.
Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 02/18/10 at 09:18 AM


Her website says she wants to impeach Obama for ending the NASA moon program?! That’s the meme?
Comment by David Stephenson on 02/18/10 at 09:30 AM


She says “here’s what I’ve got to put on the table” and then offers nothing but her name. A list of her psychoses would have been helpful.
Comment by Glix on 02/18/10 at 09:36 AM


@Polly—Ironically, she sounds like she’s getting most of her scientific notions here and here.

In any event, LaRouchies don’t really care about the noble adventure of space exploration. They just want the damned Helium-3 from the moon. They’re afraid the Chinese will get it first.
Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 02/18/10 at 09:52 AM

.................

chator 02-19-2010 08:41 AM

Impeachable offenses
 
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." --US Constitution. Article II, Sec. 4.

According to the latest statements coming out of LYM and LYN; such as in Lyn's latest webcast, the most recent DWTT video, and the recent "Impeach Obama," video on LPAC; Obama's offense, for which he should be impeached, is cancelling NASA projects that intend to return man to the Moon within the next decade. This act of his is being touted as treasonous, and therefore an impeachable offense. Nevermind that space exploration was not even conceived of as possible when the U.S. Constitution was drafted. The LaRouchies could care less about the actual intent of this clause, they are not by any means, constitutionalists. Being constitutional to them means following dictator LaRouche's flights of fantastical interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, without ever reading the document itself to check that his logic is "on target." The U.S. Constitution to them, is really just another rabbit they pull out of their top-hat, in order to uuooo and ahhh, as they try to add some credibility to their insane ideas. Yes, LaRouche first announced that Obama should be impeached two months back, at his December webcast, in order to give his LYM candidates a platform they could run and lose on. But the real reason why Obama should join the ranks of Aaron Burr in the history books has now been revealed by prophet LaRouche. :D

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tJRgPDnqU8

xlcr4life 02-19-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chator;384066Yes, LaRouche first announced that Obama should be impeached two months back, at his December webcast, in order to give his LYM candidates a platform they could run and lose on. But the [I
real[/I] reason why Obama should join the ranks of Aaron Burr in the history books has now been revealed by prophet LaRouche. :D

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tJRgPDnqU8



Chator This is all so funny because I wrote several times in 2008 that it will be dejavu time for the cult based on what we did in the late 1970s. What Lyn does is to send the cult to forage where there is some anger. It does not matter what it is or what side of the political fence since he has a ready made supply of cheap parlor tricks to redirect everyone. Quicker then you can say "Connecto" the cult is busy phoning and deploying in new waters.



Lyn is just following the Jimmy Carter script where it also began with Lyn's 4 Horsemen of the Apocolypse.

-Nuclear war

-Economic collapse

-New Dark Ages.

-Nazis everywhere but in the mirror.


Lyn tries to outdo the right wing conspiracy people and calls for impeachment while trying to appear as friends of the right.This also works if you have the GOP in office as the cult went through 8 years of the same thing with Bush.

If you are a LYM or LYMette, doesn't it feel sort of goofy that we can pretty much know how your lives our determined?


Larouche Palooza 2010!



We start of with something to show just what Lyn's 330 million dollar delusion has produced for a legacy. I took the name of the guy who crashed a plane into a Texas office building and googled Joe Stack with Lyn.

Hee is what we got.


http://www.philly2philly.com/politic...ide_mission_ru


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This type of rant reminds me of something you'd hear from a Lynden LaRouche supporter or someone who speaks of the Illuminati

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2454327/posts


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Joseph Stack has a unique knowledge of literature to make this quote. It is also interesting if he studied Fairlie where his mindset came from. Anti-Business, pro-FDR type policies. Somewhere between a Liberal and a Larouche nut.
http://letters.salon.com/tech/htww/2...iew/index.html

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Sometimes Libertarians are Glenn Greenwald and never say they are 'left' or 'right'. Sometimes though if you poke at them you find they have a long track record working with and for Pat Buchanan and espouse Lyndon Larouche causes including defending far right, even neo nazi organizations.

http://shortformblog.com/chatter/pla...off-crazy-dude


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Per*son*ally, we’d stick him with the Lyn*don LaRouche com*pany just because we need to stick him some*where.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us

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By the way, just judging from his bizarre online screed, Mr. Stack sounds to us more like a Lyndon LaRouche supporter than a Tea Party conservative.


-Jakarta Larouche Jabroni or Billington contact or both?

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...uns-world.html



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Letters: Who runs the world?
Thu, 02/18/2010 11:34 AM | Reader's Forum

It is a popular myth that governments of countries run the world. However, the truth as exposed repeatedly by Lyndon LaRouche, the world’s most accurate economic forecaster for over 50 years, is that an international financial oligarchy has for 3,000 years run a succession of empires that control national governments.......


-Ahhh the old days where our direct march to world power was based on battling the Krishnas and Moonies for card table shrine floor space at airports.


http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/...ower_7821.html



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Since the 1970’s, nuclear power has been a lighting rod for progressive and environmental opposition. In fact, for decades the chief public proponents of nuclear power were followers of cult leader Lyndon LaRouche, whose pro-nuke signs were commonly seen at the tables they staffed in airports.


-Bad PR for the Tea Party. You should have fumigated them from your rallies.

http://timescheck.com/2010/02/18/tea...ndon-larouche/

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Nation, John Birchers, Lyndon LaRouche
Tea Party Activists Interlinked with Aryan Nation, John Birchers, Lyndon LaRouche

Further complicating matters, Tea Party events have become a magnet for other groups and causes — including gun rights activists, anti-tax crusaders, libertarians, militia organizers, the “birthers” who doubt President Obama’s citizenship, Lyndon LaRouche supporters and proponents of the sovereign states movement,” the report shrieks.

There are no interviews here with LaRouche supporters or “birthers,” which is not to say they did not invite themselves to certain Tea Party events


-Little bit of Rachel here and some anger at the carpetbegging of the cult.

http://hillbuzz.org/2010/02/18/thurs...ary-18th-2010/


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BKennedy Says:
February 18, 2010 at 4:38 am

I had just discovered a primary challenger for Barney Frank’s seat, and I’ll be delighted to spread knowledge of her everywhere I can, just for the sake of making Barney have to put up a fight in a primary. The higher profile MA-4 becomes, the more Barney will have to answer, and the more his crude, ugly personality will come out.

Hopefully HottieMcAwesomemania will continue and the Republicans will gun for his seat as well. He’s infected by district with his inanity long enough.

http://www.rachelforcongress.com

If you deem her worthy, maybe we can all help roll Frank out of office too!

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IAmDagny Says:

February 18, 2010 at 11:25 am
Lyndon LaRouche is quoted on her website. Scary. Hopefully someone else will jump in the race.

Reply
Also this from Ace of Spades:
Tea Party Imposters: Truthers and Other Mutants File to Create “Tea Party” In Nevada
—Ace
The Truthers, Paulites, LaRouchies and general cranks are hell-bent to hijack a movement about limited government (which most of them don’t really care all that much about) as a vehicle to advance their own fringe agenda-items.


-Here we find a lot of Rachel "Dining Room Table" Brown. She could leave the cult and do a singing lounge act with that name in Biloxi before Vegas.



http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/s...setts_primary/



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Dining Room Table Running Against Barney Frank in Massachusetts Primary
Best. Campaign. Video. Ever.*

Rachel: She’s just crazy enough to run for office! hItLeR! [insert wacky sound effects here]

Googly-eyed, Nazi-comparison machine Rachel Brown has “something to put on the table” in her bid to take down “Bailout Barney Frank” (catchy!) and impeach Barack Hussein Obama. It’s steamy and it attracts flies and sometimes she makes pictures out of it! Then she heads off to the LaRouche compound, eats fistfuls of graham crackers, and giggles about people’s “fart holes.” THE END.

UPDATE: Here’s Bailout Barney’s full takedown of Dining Room Table (D-MA)...

* Okay, that’s not true. I think Mike Gravel will own that title until the end of time.

Posted by Kevin K. on 02/18/10 at 08:15 AM • Permalink


Categories: Politics • Election '10 • Barack Obama • Nutters • Skull Hampers • YouTubidity •

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Ahhh, a LaRouche Douche.

I expect Barney Frank to issue an apology—to Ms. Brown’s dining table for impugning its intelligence.

Comment by Allan on 02/18/10 at 08:37 AM
The funniest thing is that she apparently thought her encounter with Frank went well! It’s like the cavalry putting General Custer on a recruiting poster for the Indian Wars.

Comment by Betty Cracker on 02/18/10 at 08:51 AM
Ahhh, a LaRouche Douche.

I think we’ve settled on CockLaRouches.

Comment by Kevin K. on 02/18/10 at 08:53 AM
The dateless combover hobbit’s blog? I didn’t tip you about this and I don’t even have a blog.

Comment by Lawnguylander on 02/18/10 at 09:00 AM
I’d drive the ten hours to Boston to see these two debate.

Comment by Tom65 on 02/18/10 at 09:14 AM
Rachel haz mad writing skillz:

Join with me now to remove the failed leadership in Congress, and enter a generation to bring in a new era.

Comment by Tom65 on 02/18/10 at 09:18 AM
Dining Room Tables are now 75% Off in the Google ad sidebar.

This woman has totally crashed the market for brain-dead home furnishings.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 02/18/10 at 09:18 AM
Her website says she wants to impeach Obama for ending the NASA moon program?! That’s the meme?

Comment by David Stephenson on 02/18/10 at 09:30 AM
PS: What is up with the cross-eyed jugendfuhrer in the “Impeach Obama” video on her campaign page? Yikes.

PPS: Wasn’t “Bail-Out Barney” a famous aviator/hero in the old Republic serials?

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 02/18/10 at 09:30 AM
The difference is that a dining room table would have a leg to stand on!

Kevin, we really need some sort of little button or script for a rimshot or slide-whistle sound effect. Maybe replacing the never used but often confused “@”?

Massachusetts voters, forget about federal highway funding and whether or not Rachel can name the Red Sox: where does Barney Frank stand on gravitation?

This will begin the age of relativistic space flight. This is something mankind has never done! We have domesticated the principle of light, harnessing its powers for our own activities, likewise for electricity, magnetism, and heat, but with gravitation? Not yet. What will happen to physical space-time as we induce brand-new phenomena into the Universe? We don’t know.

Comment by Mrs. Polly on 02/18/10 at 09:33 AM
She says “here’s what I’ve got to put on the table” and then offers nothing but her name. A list of her psychoses would have been helpful.

Comment by Glix on 02/18/10 at 09:36 AM
PUMA/NAG/Effluence endorsement in 3…2…1…

Comment by Tom65 on 02/18/10 at 09:37 AM
@Polly—Ironically, she sounds like she’s getting most of her scientific notions here and here.

In any event, LaRouchies don’t really care about the noble adventure of space exploration. They just want the damned Helium-3 from the moon. They’re afraid the Chinese will get it first.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 02/18/10 at 09:52 AM
The dateless combover hobbit’s blog?

That’s a very inside joke. *cough* DickSpuzz *cough* I just took it out of the post because I didn’t want to confuse everyone.

Comment by Kevin K. on 02/18/10 at 10:13 AM
Well at least she’s cleared something up for me.

As President Obama has not only failed to hear the population asking for him to change his ways, but has pushed even harder for the policies requested of him by London, it is time for him to go. He is conspiring with a foreign enemy against the interests of the United States, and this is an impeachable offense. Join me now, to demand a real solution.

I thought Obama was being controlled by Rahm and I was a little ****ed off about it. Learning that it’s London has come as a relief.

Comment by marindenver on 02/18/10 at 10:24 AM
She reminds me of that chick from the new V TV series.

Comment by jeffinfremont on 02/18/10 at 10:24 AM
London—a “foreign enemy”?

Rachel, isn’t that just what Hitler would say????

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 02/18/10 at 10:30 AM
@ Strange: KUGELBLITZ!

Now if it had been KNISHBLITZ, nothing would have been left of London.

Kevin, DCH’s EMOporium of vinyl-coated McCarthyism just won’t wipe clean! But I’ve been applying stain-remover, and have great hopes.

Comment by Mrs. Polly on 02/18/10 at 10:31 AM
Her website…wow. She claims Obama should be impeached because he hasn’t laid out a plan for a moon base and mission to Mars. Simply wow.

Comment by OC on 02/18/10 at 10:36 AM
She uses an excerpt of a video in which she looks like a complet idiot and gets schooled by Bailout Barney for her campaign video? That dining room table needs a new campaign manager.

Comment by kathequa on 02/18/10 at 11:52 AM
It is time for President Obama to be removed from office. Before, he was impeachable, now, he must be impeached…

She has such a way with words. Me thinks she is her own campaign manager.

Comment by kathequa on 02/18/10 at 12:01 PM
Wait, is that Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin? Female candidates are all so hard to tell apart.

Comment by Hunger Tallest Palin on 02/18/10 at 12:07 PM
Wow, just ... ****ing ... wow.

I’m pretty sure I met her last year as she was thumbing her way down the 101 trying to hitch a ride to Reggae On The River. I felt badly for her because it was a Monday morning and the weekend party had already ended. She then asked me for my essence.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 02/18/10 at 12:26 PM
She then asked me for my essence.

That made me laugh very, very hard.

Comment by Kevin K. on 02/18/10 at 01:21 PM
I’m starting to think that this is part of the Frank campaign “black ops” to ensure he gets re-elected by comparing himself to crazy.


-Rachel has a release here which is funny in that Rachel may only have health coverage because she lives in Mass and not because but despite Lyn. Unless she has deluded herself into the ":Volunteer" section and the cult skips paying for her.



http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2010/...er-candidates/





-More Rachel coverage on the web.



http://knowyourgovernment.wordpress....s-this-happen/



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How does this happen?
February 18, 2010 at 4:20 pm | In House of Representatives, elections, politics straight up | Leave a Comment
Tags: 4th District/Massachusetts, Barney Frank, LYM, Lyndon Larouche, Massachusetts, politics, Rachel Brown

Apparently Rachel “dining room table” Brown plans to run against Massachusetts Representative Barney Frank (4th District) in the next election.

Ms. Brown is a member of the “Larouche Youth Movement.” She made quite a splash at Frank’s August town hall meeting.



It doesn’t matter how beyond insane you are, as long as you’re registered to vote as a Democrat, you can get on the ballot. Larouche supporters are unsuccessful in establishing any electoral success on their own and have a history of attempting to co-opt the Democratic Party label.

Consider making a contribution to or volunteering for Barney Frank’s reelection campaign. One Brown nut is plenty for one state.


-Interesting writing about Lord Monckton and DDT where "The Larouche Method " is shown.



http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...b2538d52f34cb6



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The bizarre claim about saving "more lives than anyone else in the history
of the planet" comes from a wacko claim of the Lyndon Larouche cult,
apparently based on a typographical error in a 1980 book from the National
Academy of Sciences.


-Lyn shows up in a physics forum.



http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...e624e25fefa445



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is as obvious as the idées fixes of the insane are to themselves.
I am the reincarnation of Spinoza, but Lyndon LaRouche is trying to
kill me, and if I took off my tinfoil hat they'd find me within
minutes.


But the difference is that the insane are alone in their assessments
of what is obvious


-This is something I have always thought about since reading the book "Bare Faced Messiah" about L. Ron Hubbard and noting how similar he and Lyn are. The LC/LYM and Scientology share a lot when you read that book and know our history. It is on the Washingon Redskins forum of all places and is based on a discussion of Scietnology as a religion vs a criminal emterprise. The person here is quoting from Scientology: Religion or racket? by Dr. Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi in the Marburg Journal of Religion.







http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?p=7306871



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In the context of United States cultural history, Hubbard seems like a combination of the best-known qualities of Roy Cohn (Von Hoffman, 1988) and Lyndon LaRouche (King, 1990). The similarity between Scientology and the LaRouche organization in terms of ideology and activities seems far from than trivial, but has never been noted.


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howie 02-19-2010 09:05 PM

The interesting bit in this essay...

http://www.themodernbeast.com/your-n...eadership.html

... is explaining why Larouche is not Martin Luther King, Jr.

... as though that weren't self-explanatory in any number of ways.

sancho 02-22-2010 06:07 PM

The Medium Is the Message
 
OK, I confess, I did spend time this weekend getting my news from LPAC-TV. (It gladdened my heart to hear that the word "Delphic" was still in circulation.)

Anyhoo, is enyone ever encouraged to visit the "boomer" site, www.larouchepub.com? Go there and note that, even if the grizzled elders are as fruity as their frumpy juniors, the site presents written words in recognizable attempts at rational discourse, whereas the LPAC site presents a complete poverty of content and intelligence in video format a la well-known creations of Orwell or Bradbury.

I did get a hoot out of the crossgenerational interchange between some cult cupcake and the bony erstwhile cult leader J. Philip Rubenstein. If anyone's satanic bona fides are in order, his are - but that did not prevent the youngster from mispronouncing his once legendary name. O tempora, o mores.

Reportedly, LPAC-TV presenters get their training at various children's museums throughout North America, such as

http://childrensmuseum.com/about-mcm/galleries/our-tv/

Have fun! And Ring Dings!


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