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rich_hydell

06-19-2006, 02:12 AM

By the way I find you very amusing, I remember riding in the limo I bought from Hilcrest Cadilac in 1977. Tony wanted the Stutz Blackhawk, it started at $60,000, Sue got on the phone when she heard us talking and said Richard I want a black limo not a Stutz Blackhawk. So as sure as a squirel eats nuts, I have the limo that we paid $18,000 cash for over at American Sunroof where we got it customized. Sue wanted the car in 3 days (and Sue always got what she wanted) But while in the back of the limo with Ed Mick, he looked over and said to me Richard you are the apple of Tony and Sues eye. All they do is talk about what you have accomplished for the Lord.

Now lets see, I still wear Luccachi boots, still have my N Turk suit that Nathan made for me personaly, my North Beach Leather jackets (did you see my picture on Marcell's site), and my Malcolm Hall suits.

Now when I joined in Aug of 1970 and went down into the dungeon prayer room with Martin Howard and Bill Arkan to receive speaking in toungs (Martin looked like a crazy cave man LOL)

My first job after I was there for 2 months was pick ups with Sanford White, Jim Hunt, and Greg Packard.

So from here to the limo ride with Ed, I worked my tail off from when we first went to work for the Easter clothes (Ox Nard, Roses, Grape Vines) Now that was some hard freaking work but if you happen to think that going from that kind of foundation work to being with Tony and Sue constantly in day and out, talking to them on the phone constantly (you have no idea the kinds of things we talk about because if you did, there is a good chance you would have left in 1978 and spent the next 7 or 8 years fighting for the people left in there. If you have any doubt my dear friend, talk to Marty Stanton or others who know the truth.

My life in the foundation for some reason was different than most others. And my contact and relationship to Tony and Sue was also different than yours or anyone elses for that matter.

So Nunzio or whoever the hell you are, do what I did; pull yourself up by your boot straps and get the freakin chip off your shoulder. I love my life, before, during, and after the foundation. How bout you? I hope so. God bless you and your family.

internuncio

06-19-2006, 06:49 AM

Rich,

No doubt some had it better than others in the Alamo cult. No doubt Tony and Susie were some shady characters. No doubt you were happy before, and during your stay at the Alamo cult, and now since you have told us all, I have no doubt you have found hapiness after your stint at the Alamo cult.... All of these things are not negotiable.

The only question I have for you at this point is this here:
Where do you stand with Tony Alamo? Or perhaps the better question is, How does Tony Alamo stand with you?

As for who I am... it matters VERY little who I am. Trust me, I am no one important... I keep my identity private because there seems to be more power in the annonymous post.
Nuncio

no_stoppin_me

06-19-2006, 09:36 AM

Rich, I'm sure you can understand why some would think it suspect that you still converse with TA.

I can only hope that if you do speak to Tony with any regularity, that it is only to perhaps gain his trust and with some kind of plan to have him stopped from raping, molesting and abusing the little children. Anything else would be a slap in the face to those who have suffered at that monsters hands.

rich_hydell

06-19-2006, 01:55 PM

well ,lets not judge ole richie rich, i can see that in these words but its ok i can take it , so all i said was that when i spoke to him and i wont tell how many times because it really makes no differenc , the first time was when he was in the halfway house after jail ,yes the guy who headed up the whole thing years of collecting infomation ,then as people left bringing them on board ,i decided when i left that the same zeal i had in their (by the way those companys did not start and build them selves the alamo and the others)i put into putting tony in jail and we know the end result of that ...so i tell the truth no one not u .. sue .. tony ...nobody intimadats me so if for some reason u think ive changed well if anyone ever touched my kid i would cut them down ....got that joey ,or anyone elce who has left their kid their ...were are the parents ...kick the dam door down and take ur children ...when i felt i was wronged i busted every wall and got in everyones face .. i was tossed out of fedral court twice because i went for tony right in the court room ....sue told me i was worse then peter when he denieded christ ...worse then anna nia and safira ...the last words i said to sue was ur a lier ...so in the foundation people never got me because they never looked at my heart .. but i have 4 beautfull children a wonderfull wife so look did i talk to tony was that the question?? when i had a beef with him i took care of it its over for me ok he did his time like i did mine ....peace... fight ur fight and be an exampel to ur children ...rich

internuncio

06-19-2006, 06:07 PM

Rich,

Let me just make sure I have this right.

You were out to get Tony when you felt you were personally wronged and after years of never giving up you saw justice dealt, when Alamo finally got to call a jail cell his home.

Now ... flash forward... You no longer have a personal beef with Tony Alamo so you speak to Alamo as you see fit. Your life - Your business....

I suppose if I have deciphered your post, then I understand where you are coming from...

I would like to implore you to please not be amused, enticed, or fooled by Tony Alamo. He is in danger of the judgment of the Almighty God. He is (among many things) a false prophet, a pedophile of the worst kind, equal only to the Catholic priests who molest little kids in their spiritual care... a liar, a thief, a womanizer, a wife beater, a child abuser, and last but not least a sad, sorry, blind man who is more Spiritually blind than he will ever be physically blind.

My concern is that Con Artist Alamo is unfortunately very intelligent, by reason of his extensive experience in conning many, innumerable, human beings. You think you are in control of a conversation, but you never really are; He is. Who knows what he does with the information you think you aren't giving him. This guy is a user. He will only give you the time of day if you are (intentionally or unintentionally) contributing something to his maniacal schemes or insatiable blood lust.

This is a man who takes little children from the safety of their homes and makes them his wives. He takes pleasure in teaching them sex ... not the art of "making love" just dirty old man sex. He beats them and twists their heads around so bad they don't know which end is up.

When they grow up to be women you end up with a twisted unit like Jeannette Orlando. What a beautiful child she was. Was is the key word here. Jeannette now is as guilty as Alamo is himself. Jeannette was taken when she was only 15 years old ... now at 28 (almost 29) Jeannette refuses freedom even when it is offered to her (oh, I know, her parents were no help at all). She chooses to go back. She is part of his sin, now as an adult ... she helps take care of the little child brides and who knows what roll she plays in helping them after they are raped, like she was, by Tony Alamo.

I don't know what fellowship any parent could ever have with the likes of Tony Alamo. You are a parent, Rich. This guy does unspeakable things to little innocent children. Despite the fact that he is on parole. Despite the fact that he KNOWS he will go to jail and never get out when he is finally caught (being caught is INEVITABLE). He still perpetrates atrocities on children.

If you are so good at getting your guy, Rich, Help us to finally end this sicko's reign of terror.

Nuncio

rich_hydell

06-19-2006, 06:35 PM

nucio, look were are the parents , orlando my former bro in law .joey is my oldest uncle, borik i understand he left his child their . are their any other parents out who still have their children their ... my point is its not about me ant tony or me and u ... were are the parents , i got in joeys face in court and screamed at him, how can u let any one fk ur child ... i told him he was a little man with no balls ... all he could do was call me a ••• , so i got back in his face till i was pulled off by the feds...when i was out side of the court room and tony and the big guys came out i looked at hih and said what are u looking at u sh*t head .. .. sorry im just skinny hydell but if u f with me or m kids i flip out .. im not afraid of going to jail for my children and at the time my brothers and sisters still in their ... come on u dont need me their are quite a few x members who still think im the devil for doing what i did . they saw me in fancy cloths in the foundation and for some crazy reason did not think i worked prayed ctyed as hard as them ... so this is how hydell deals with it ... so look come on down to the beach house crack a cold one and we can talk about it ...peaceand goog bless u and urs ....rich

rich_hydell

06-19-2006, 06:36 PM

i ment joey is my oldest childs uncle...my typing really stinks

smitty

06-19-2006, 08:29 PM

Rich..Tom Smith here, sorry I can't get to Fl. this year.The wife and I will be out that way early next year.I saw Marty in May during my nephews graduation and would like to bump into you and Jimmy and Ann G. then. BTW Good to hear you can still fit into those clotheshttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif can't say the same about myself.I've read all the posts so I don't worry about me,just save me a cold one sometime or look me up if you ever come out to Santa Barbara

internuncio

06-19-2006, 09:09 PM

Rich,

Joey Orlando and Mike Borek are as different as apples and oranges.

Joey Orlando gave his daughter, with his blessing, to Tony Alamo to have and to hold, oh and to screw and beat... Joey was given the chance to save his beloved daughter Jeanette Marie, this AFTER the death of his other daughter Mia Angelina. You would think that losing a daughter to death would make a guy stop and think about how precious life is... but nah, not Joey. He and his wife "Auntie Norsky" personally drove thier daughter back to that mad man. Then in November 2005 their daughter Jeannette was back yet again! Do you think anyone got that twisted young lady any help? Nah. That would be far too parental! Instead they cited that Jeannette is a 28 year old woman and since Tony is all she has ever known it stands to reason she would want to be with him and far be it from them to stand in the way of her "happiness". Am I the only one vomitting here?

Mike Borek never gave his daughter to Tony Alamo. I can gaurantee you if Mike Borek's kid was in Tony's house he would go gang busters to get her out, regardless of the fact that she is a disrespectful, foul mouthed, little vixen.

facts are facts.

I have no beef with you Rich... just wish you would deffinitively pick a side instead of avoiding the real question.

razzor9

06-19-2006, 09:31 PM

Way to go!!! inter nuncio ? How do you say that.

DONT FORGET the guys who really had the balls to stand against THE FOUNDATION.

rich_hydell

06-19-2006, 10:03 PM

o k ... u couldent carry my balls .... any way . i picked a freken side do u understand history were the hell were either one of u ... look u want justas then get it like i and others with balls did ..TOM ....great to hear from u ...jim and i will keep one on ice .....by the way nuzino i just got in from my 12 year olds ball pratice and im sure some tomes he agrees with u whan ur true cocors came out that i"fly off the wheel once in a while " like i said razzor 69 .... get in a freken car and do what u have to do .... or keep ••••••• on this board ...ok rich

rich_hydell

06-19-2006, 10:03 PM

the word they bleepet out was pis*ing

no_stoppin_me

06-19-2006, 11:52 PM

I think people are frustrated that nothing has been done to stop Tony. How can this kind of thing be happening practically in front of our eyes and nothing can be done?? Why is it allowed to continue?

Alot of people want to help in any way possible, but just don't know how to help or what can be done.

Rich, you are right, it is not about you and Tony. It is not even about the adults who have chosen to continue to live there. They have chosen their paths. IT IS ABOUT THE CHILDREN! They are the ones who have no voice. They are the ones who's parents have forsaken them and given them up to be used and abused by Tony, in the name of the Lord, of course.

We are the lucky ones. We do not have to live in fear of being thrown out on the streets with no money and no where to go. Our children are safe, loved and happy.

Like you said, Rich, if anyone touched my child, I would go to the end of the world to make sure they were punished. We ask how can any parent can give their precious child to Tony? If we understood that, then we would be like them, wouldnt we? There is no excuse! None! Not brainwashing, not fear, not stupideness, not naivity, Nothing!

Every single parent that has consented to letting their child go live at Tony's house will be held accountable for that. I hope that they hear the cries of their children begging for Tony to stop every time they lay their head down at night. I hope that the sounds haunt their every waking moment.

rich_hydell

06-20-2006, 12:16 AM

Hello everyone, this is Rachel; Richard's wife. I never get involved in any of this but I know that all the heartfelt sentiments that are posted on here mean something to him.

I want to tell you no_stoppin_me that when he reads something like this it makes it worth taking the time to try and make people understand.

As an outsider to the foundation, this is the subject that keeps me beihnd my husband it whatever decision he makes on the subject of Tony and Sue because I know it is his heart that leads him.

I always enjoy meeting Rich's friends and aquaintences at the get togethers. They are some of the best people I have ever known.

So this is from one of the many I'm sure, wives and husbands who never lived in the foundation; but live through it now.

Bye,
Rachel

wilma

06-20-2006, 12:37 AM

No stoppin me,
It does seem crazy that nothing can be done. I think what it would take is for one of those little girls to come out of there and go to the authorities to press charges. How likely is that to happen??? Even if one of them got out, Tony has convinced them that the law enforcement is the enemy. Plus when they get out..they are a wreck mentally and emotionally, mixed up and afraid. The Arkansas authorities had all the information they needed when Jody got out and they never pressed charges against him then. Now Jody and Tami's information is too old to use for a criminal case, from what I've heard. For all Tony's talk about how the government is out to get him...they sure don't look to me like they care a rat's ••• about him. Also, the laws of this country are more to protect the perpetrators than to protect the victims. It's a sad situation and frustrating.

Back in Ft Smith in March when the authoriites went to the Alamo compound to break up that wedding between 13 yr old Leah Willis and the 34 yr old ex-con the cops probably didn't realize that they have at least 8 cameras and monitors casing the place..their so called church....so it was easy for them to slip out the back door.

If any one does get out of there they should probably go see those same police officers. Or if any one has a legitimate complaint, like username "Thankful", that still has kids in there.

I agree, if I had kids in there I would round up a posse and go get my kids.......whatever it would take. I would go to the media in Ft Smith, Los Angeles, Texarkana, ABC, NBC, CBS , People Magazine, etc. I would cause such a darn stink that he'd be begging me to take my daughter out of there. I sure as heck wouldn't be just wringing my hands hoping that someday my kid is gonna come to their senses.
Susie G

wilma

06-20-2006, 12:52 AM

Hi Rachel,
Didn't see your post before I sent mine. We're looking forward to seeing you guys this weekend. Fun in the sun.
I have met and in some instances become good friends with quite a few of you, that were never in the Foundation, but who have husbands or fiance's who were (Rich/Rachel, Abby/Tom, Gorbz/Livia, Kitch/Deborah, etc). I see how hard you all try to understand these crazy beliefs and this crazy bizarre situation that your spouse used to be in. I have to really hand it to you all! You love your husbands and have enbraced their friends. You all add some great perspective and insight to the discussion too.
Thanks to all of you for being the great women that you are!
Susie G

until_the_redemption

06-20-2006, 04:53 AM

We just found out Susie Groulx is an illegitimate child.

It causes her so much humiliation that she has eaten herself into obesity.

A couple of people from the church saw her in a restaurant. They were sitting right next to her, and she didn't even recognize them. She was sitting there with Ann Elmore.

They said she was huge. She used to be thin, but now she is mammoth.

She has the semblance of a swine and Ann Elmore looked like a wrinkled up old hag. Her face was so wrinkled, and Susan Groulx was so obese that they barely recognized them. Ann's hair was very white with gray in it.

Susie's last name really is appropriate...Susie Grew!

This is what you get when you lie about dignities of the Lord.

You're ruined forever.

no_stoppin_me

06-20-2006, 09:06 AM

Geeze, is that all you got?? Just like your master, Tony, all you know how to do is call people names instead of facing the truth. He has taught you well. I guess it makes you feel better about your decision to follow that monster.

I'd rather be fat instead of a child rapist, child abuser, liar, thief, false prophet, pledgarist and all the other disgusting things that Tony Alamo has become.

internuncio

06-20-2006, 12:36 PM

No Stoppin Me

They aren't like their master Tony Alamo, you were close but off a little bit... They are like their master SATAN!

By the way, in case you all haven't figured it out yet... That was Tony Alamo's dictated response, to Susan Groulx.

It has been said by several (who still speak to Rich Hydell) that Alamo told Rich Hydell (during a telephone conversation) that he is the one who tells them what to write on FactNet and that he sits back and laughs when ex-members on the message board send desperate pleas to their loved ones. He never will and never has let them read what is said. (Except the very few who actually get on and read and respond for T.A.)

One day, Tony Alamo will stand alone, naked, and trembling before the Lord, God, Almighty, and he will be the one to beg for mercy.

All of the sick twisted things he has done and the wickedness of his heart shall be revealed. Just wait and see.......

rich_hydell

06-20-2006, 12:53 PM

no nuzino we never sopke about that ..rich and nuzinoo i do know who u are now and since i deal with the truth not child bable and gossip i will say that in every compamy or church whatever their is a person or two that are at the bottom , losers etc u know who and what u are and like i said history is yesterdays news See u never amounted to anything at the founation and from what i know now im suprised u can afford a computer to even be on line .. I was a success in the foundtion .. i used to by ur shoes remember and since i left in 78 im a great success now to ... so come on get on with it but i guess once a slugart always a slugart .. did i not ask for ur item on the ask tony .. and ur still mad .. or was it me in my sexy north beack leather suit the drove u to ur little baby talk huh ... rich .. the fuma lacha chunga hydell

rich_hydell

06-20-2006, 01:00 PM

internuncio

06-20-2006, 01:17 PM

Hydell,

Don't look too close to the water at that skinny reflection... you might just fall in and drown!

This isn't about you, Hydell. This is all about Tony Alamo... so back off and try not to hurt yourself trying to figure out who I am. You really don't have a clue. In fact you aren't even close to being close.

Nuncio http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

rich_hydell

06-20-2006, 01:40 PM

if thats a threat buddy i am always armed and sleep with a 12 gauge next to my bed so i would be carefull ...ok get a life u made it about me ok all i did was put a little post up about the beach house ,, who i talk to is my freken busness ok ...dip s*it ....rich the fuma lacha chunga HYDELL

raining

06-20-2006, 02:13 PM

until_the_redemption-

There you go- back to true foundation tactics! Name calling and trying to degrade people based on their looks!

What someone looks like doesn't make what they say untrue!

Just because Toni Alamo, papa perv, dyes his hair - doesn't mean everyone else has too, white hair and wrinkles come with getting older (so does getting bald!)

Toni is up to his old tricks - degrading and tryng to humilate someone into submitting to him or shutting them up.

Your tactics don't work anymore - we see you, Toni Alamo for who you really are!

I'd rather be fat,white headed and wrinkled instead of being a child rapist,child abuser, liar, thief, false prophet, pledgarist and all the other disgusting things that Tony Alamo has become.

hollydolly

06-20-2006, 06:25 PM

HEY UNTIL U BURN!--

WHAT KIND OF GODLY PERSON WOULD ATTACK SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY ARE OLD AND HAVE WRINKLES? OH INCASE YOU ARE TOO DUMB TO FIGURE THIS ONE OUT MY MOTHER {ANN ELMORE} IS THE SAME AGE AS TONY ALAMO PUT ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS THAT SHE CAN'T AFFORD ALL THE PLASTIC SURGERY AND HAIR DYE THAT ALAMO USES TO STAY LOOKING YOUNG BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HE IS OF THE FLESH AND CARES TOO MUCH AT THE AGE OF 71 HOW HE LOOKS.........OH AND ALAMO CAN AFFORD SURGERY BECAUSE HE STILL HAS DUMBASSES LIKE YOU WORKING FOR HIM AND PAYING FOR IT! LOLOLOL I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU'D LOOK LIKE AT 71 CONSIDERING HOW ••••••• UGLY U ARE IN YOUR YOUTH! LOLOL JUST CHECK OUT MARCELS PICS AND SEE WHAT MY MOTHER LOOKED LIKED 43 YEARS AGO ..........ALOT LIKE MY PICS..........NOW WHAT ARE U GONNA SAY BIATCH?

hollydolly

06-20-2006, 06:30 PM

OH AND WHATS THE DEAL ABOUT BEING ILLEGITIMATE???? WHAT MAKES ALAMO ANY DIFFERENT WHEN HIS DAD RAN OUT ON HIM AND HIS MOTHER.........INFACT EVEN MOMMY DIDN'T WANT TONY AFTER AWHILE JUST ASK ALAMO WHERE HE SPENT MOST OF HIS TIME? YA LIKE HE WOULD TELL YOU DUMB IDIOTS HIS CHILDHOOD SECRETS.........

hollydolly

06-20-2006, 06:46 PM

MAYBE I'LL JUST MAKE A TRIP OVER TO BENSON'S GRILL AND ASK THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY ALAMO PEOPLE THERE BOTHERING THEM RECENTLY! LOL THEN WE WILL KNOW HOW ZELOUS YOU PEOPLE REALLY ARE TO WIN SOULS!

internuncio

06-20-2006, 07:29 PM

Hydel,

Here are "quite a few"
I will only name the children who are confirmed which your pal has molested, raped, and taken as "wives".....

Oh and Kojak, when you say you want proof, are you asking for semen samples or will their word and the word of witnesses work for ya? Oh and by the way 007, do you ever watch Dateline or CBS evening News or any other news on television? There are MANY cults just like the one Alamo runs where the cult leader takes kids as wives and they are never found out. It is hard to get "evidence" because cult members are in fear for their lives and their immortal souls! It's not like some silly college •••• who gets date raped because she was showing her panties at a party. These people are BRAIN WASHED and severely oppressed!

(NOTE: i will not be including grown adult women who Tony Alamo also took)

Jody Fryer 17 years old Feb 15th 1993
Tami 17 years old October 1993
Michele 18 years old and pregnant with another mans baby 1993
Angel Streit 18
Lizzy Jan 1994 newly 16
Jeannette 15 years old Jan 1994
Eliza 8 years old in prison fondled her and dirty talked
Katrina 11 years old
Cindi Jo 17 years old
Alys Ondersak 11 years old
Amy Eddie 11 years old
Pebbles Rodriguez 12 years old
Desere Kolbek 9 years old (parents love to brag about their daughter being one of Tonys gilrs)
Jamie Rodrigues 10 years old (moved in to TAs house 2000-2001)
Summer Hagen under 11 years old
Sierra Dawn Sweat (Don Sweats under age daughter)

rich_hydell

06-20-2006, 07:42 PM

i dont want proof stupid .... take it to the d a like i did brains get off ur as* off the couch like i did ..u dont hold a candle to me bud ...i spend 7 hard years getting "proof and when i was done well u know the rest so get off my case and help these people like i helped u .. ok .....rich

rich_hydell

06-20-2006, 07:58 PM

and what about joeys kid huh is she not brainwashed ....huh lets just string her up along side tony .. u seem to be judge and jury here ...get off ur big fat gross as* and do something bossman ... holy cow ....

until_the_redemption

06-20-2006, 08:04 PM

nuncio is too scared to tell you who he is,

although you said you already know, "losers etc u never amounted to anything at the founation"

why don't you tell everyone here who nuncio is?

your not the only one he's harassed off this board

rich_hydell

06-20-2006, 08:15 PM

well thanks for the support do i know u my friend .. its so cheap to hide here ... i wont say now but who ever it is their also just as guilty as tony if he is ... just sitting their and letting this happen .. how can any one who know for a fact ... a fact just let it happen wow .... rich

raining

06-21-2006, 12:42 AM

Now back to the "illegitimate child" topic!

How is Tony's son, Sion, going to feel about all of Toni alamo's illegitimate kids?

Toni Alamo is the father of Tabor, (Toni Alamo's son w/ Lydia) and Antoinette (Toni Alamo's daughter by Lizzy)

The wives lie about sharing the bed with toni alamo!
Toni Alamo doesn't claim any of the under-age girls he has taken and defiled as his wives!

Therefore that makes his offspring bastards and illegitimate children!

How are these kids going to feel when they find out what a pervert they have for a father?

internuncio

06-21-2006, 12:43 AM

Hydel,

Let it suffice to say, the authorities have been contacted at several govornmental levels, by myself and others. I have always and will always do all that is in my power to alert the proper authorities to Tony Alamo's lawlessness. As you know from experience, it is a constant uphill battle.

Nuncio

rich_hydell

06-21-2006, 12:56 AM

ok so this is it, I made a decision after that Horn post to back off this whole situation. I hadn't planned on putting anything on this board again, that decision was made during a lot of soul searching. Obviously there are a number of subjects on this board and I just don't have enough knowledge and I guess the personal connection that I had years ago.

I will continue to pray and hope that peace comes to the hearts of everyone here. Sometimes it seems and I'm not really sure why because once you get to know me, I am a pretty decent guy.

If I offended anybody then it is too dam bad. I'm not in the foundation anymore, I dont' wash anybodys feet and I don't ask for forgivness. If anyone has any questions, thoughts, concerns or just wants to chew the fat, I'm sure you can find my number somewhere. Give me a call.
Peace and God bless everyone
Richard Hydell

internuncio

06-21-2006, 01:25 AM

Fair enough...
Thanks for your uncompromising honesty.

hollydolly

06-21-2006, 02:43 PM

hey until why don't u say who u are????? didn't have a comeback huh about the old wrinkled hag? looked in the mirror did ya?

internuncio

06-21-2006, 02:54 PM

Holly Dolly

Don't you see that they say that kind of stuff to intentionally hurt people? Please, if they succeed in hurting you, or ticking you off, don't let them know. There are better ways to get them back. Tell all their filthy secrets. That is the only thing that they "feel".

Your mom is not an old wrinkled hag. She is a wonderful, wise, Godly woman... She knows it, you know it, and her friends know it. No need to deffend her honor.

Nuncio

hollydolly

06-21-2006, 03:09 PM

hey rich if you knew tony and sue so well could you tell us the childhood secret about tony? what really happened in that boys home? what initaly started alamo's perverse mind.

habadasher

06-21-2006, 03:16 PM

Susie Groulx is not big and fat!! She does not look like a swine. What would you say about the apostle Paul if you saw him sitting at a resturuant when he had aged a bit. That stuff really turns people off. I do not think the guy in the bible the dogs were licking puss off looked really nice and cute. How stupid and childish can you get. What is the the wieght and look one has to be to make it? I see alot of really so called nice looking people dying every day. If they would have just gotten plastic surgury!! If they only had been skinny!!

iasmann

06-21-2006, 04:00 PM

That's how Tony thinks. He's as vindictive and spiteful as a bratty kid. They say Sion is just like him.

Tony is the guy who would always take his football home if he couldn't play quarterback. You know the type.

skeptik

06-21-2006, 09:46 PM

I'm no Psychologist, and don't even believe in the craft. But I do believe that one can look at an individual, observe their actions, and can make an informed guess or two about their background. And I've observed Comrade Alamo: I have met him in person, I've read his literature, listened to his sermons, I have read about him, and perhaps I can make a few guesses to his background.

skeptik

06-21-2006, 09:47 PM

I've long held that those with a considerable number of personal problems and interpersonal shortcomings should never be in a position of authority. It's best that they work on that before they even aspire to be in a position like that.

(Message edited by skeptik on June 21, 2006)

skeptik

06-21-2006, 10:00 PM

First, I'll concede that he's definitely an autocratic personality. I can imagine that he was probably bullied at home and at school, was never popular, and never had much in the way of authority. Indeed, he probably had a big problem with authority figures. Put someone like that in a position of power, and they abuse their position and the people around them. It also may account for that whole persecution complex he likes to spout off about. Someone shouild point out that the most persecuted churches on the planet were the ones in the Soviet-bloc nations during the cold-war era, while his church wasn't suffering the kind of trouble they were. But I digress.

As for the alleged issues concerning his dealings with women, It has been alleged that Comrade Alamo's dealings with women today, has some roots in how his mother dealt with him as a child. And when we read about how Susan Alamo kept him in check, that could only reinforce his behavior, I think. And I think between his mother and Susan, he's gotten a resentment of women and thus must dominate them if he should interact with them at all.

I suspect that he was the kind of clumsy guy who couldn't get a date on Friday night, and resented it whenever they didn't succumb to whatever advances he may fly their way. Get him into a position of power and invest him with nigh-infallible credibility, and he can get whatever he wants. In some cases, the fathers and husbands are so dazzled by the presence of Comrade Alamo, they'll happily hand their wives and daughters to him.

skeptik

06-21-2006, 10:08 PM

With that in mind, TA put out a tract in the late 1980s explaining why he and then-wife Elizabeth would not submit to Psychological testing. It would have been fascinating if he had sat for something like that.

What amazing insights we would have had were we to hear him in his own words try to rationalize certain statements and attitudes and not be able to hide behind the Bible! By that I mean that it would be interesting to study him, and find out where he's really coming from. Because I do not believe that it's coming from a biblical place at all, but rather from something internally twisted and wrathful.

skeptik

06-21-2006, 10:11 PM

The individuals who'd assigned thgemselves the role of OCs as I was a visitor painted him as a phenomenal man of God, a man of wisdom and integrity. He was given nigh-mythological attributes and majestic deeds were ascribed to him.

And when I get to meet him, he comes off as little better than a swaggering, trash-talking little punk with self-delusions of grandeur. In other words, a legend in his own mind.

skeptik

06-21-2006, 10:17 PM

Among things, it's said that he was asked to run for President of the United States, but declined the invitation, as being a minister was a more higher calling. He managed musical performers and was an executive of a health club chain. He was asked to work on Bobby Kennedy's Campaign for the Democratic nomination back in 1968. He also supposedly led Elvis to Christ.

And I had to roll up my pantlegs and ask myself where I put my waders, because it was getting pretty deep....

saved_21570

06-21-2006, 11:14 PM

Ian is right on when he says that it is as simple as him being a bully. Why? Anyones guess. Maybe because he was the b#stard son of a polylgamist father. Maybe, because of what his mother did to him.

In Christ, he began to put his hand to the plow but turned back. The old man could have died but he could not relinquish his ego. First it killed him, then it grew until it killed that church.

This new kick about people being fat. For most of the years I lived in the church Tony was a rolly polly short guy, who had thick glasses, wore lifters, and dyed his hair, and no one ever held it against him. I suppose he lost a few pounds now so this has become his new righteousness.

The sad part is, now he is bringing it up constantly. If you know Tony, that means, that being fat is now is now a reason to be brutilized, berated, dagraded, and/or openly humiliated; especially if you are his property. Of course, only Tony is holy enough to determine if your flesh is lean enough to be aceptable to God or not.

How sad.

internuncio

06-22-2006, 12:13 AM

There is something to this "fat issue"
It should be dually noted that Alamo (currently)has NO fat wives. All of his bed partners are teeny tiny girls. His biggest wife is Michele but she isn't fat she is just tall. I hear that they fast there more than they eat so there is no chance they can gain weight.

skeptik

06-22-2006, 02:16 AM

So TA has a quirk about overweight people?

internuncio

06-22-2006, 02:37 AM

http://www.myspace.com/teenytinyalamo

THIS IS A MUST SEE
I WAS SURFING THE WEB AND CAME ACROSS THIS.
KUDOS TO WHOEVER THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS!

phahrrrt_detector

06-22-2006, 03:09 AM

Hey UTR there aint nybody out here who finds Susie Gs n Ann Es looks of ny concern, u sic weazle. The hole point of this frickin board is to nail Sorry Alamo for the weazle he is for the damnable practices hes been carryin out at his many personal hell holes an to deliver them poor under age innocent deceived kids held there against Gods laws an our countrys laws too.

Yup UTR theres for sure sumthin rotten in that hell hole cant u smell it >whew< all the rest of us sure can.

For cryin out loud wuz that post about Susie G an Ann E supposed frighten nybody away from putting the truth out here about how Tony Sorry Alamo preys on nyone weak enough for him an his present day baseball bat brigade to bully an man handle. Real tuf guys that Sorry Alamo an his crew of goons.

In case u an the rest of Sorrys goons didnt notice UTR this sites about exposing cults and there leaders like Tony Sorry Alamo who take full advantage of nybody to weak or unprotected to defend themselves and stand up for themselves. Who postin on this board besides Sorry Alamo an his goons really gives a flyin rip about Susie G an Ann E or nybody elses size age or looks ??? Nobody duz !!! Thats who u stupid weazle.

Didnt all yall Sorry Alamo heretics know rape an assault an lyin an abusing urselves with mankind are against the laws in this country an how much more are such deeds against the laws of the one true livin God u didnt know that ??? Well thats real tuf luck UTR cause ignorance of the law is no excuse in this country an it dont count for nothing at the judgment bar of God neither. That means when u finally get caught in this country for helping with Sorrys awful practices u pay the price on this side an on the other side u get to fry in hell now thats smokin dont u think.

Looks like Sorrys sold u a crock UTR yeah hes got u right where he wants u defendin him an postin tripe from pathetic ignorant unsuspecting peons who sadly couldnt even get a clue cause they havent lived it an I mean they havnt lived not one stinkin minute of it. An til they do they dont know zip! There so called testimonies are a stench in the nostrils of God just like u an all Sorrys other goons an all yalls actions are. U must be about brain dead UTR spewin Sorrys garbage all across this board like it wuz holy writ. If u dont wake up an fess up an denounce that weazle ur gonna find out too late its gonna be hell to pay an Im talkin about the on fire burnin kind of hell the one God made for the devil an his angels an the likes of u scumbags. O an I wouldnt want to be n ur shoes in prison either. Just in case u havent heard what they do to child molesters and child abusers in the clink it sure aint pretty.

IMHO UTR
With all ur dufus posts u dont seem to have much smarts so Ive probably cast my pearls bfore the swine tryin to give u a heads up here. Gotta admit u wont be able to say u werent warned will u UTR

(Message edited by Phahrrrt_detector on June 21, 2006)