Prime example The root of the problem

[saved_21570]

Nuncio,
UTR has given me a perfect example of how a church that was once filled with songs of praise, and hearts filled with joy, victory, and the fruits of the Spirit; has become an empty desolate place filled with dark and lonely souls. A place of great sadness and fear.

In a word, it would be, accountability.

In regard to your last posts on the Remembrances thread. UTR wrote "I can’t believe all of you think Internuncio is someone to be reckoned with. " And then launched into a barrage of innuendo and accusation that never legitimatly addresses anything you have said or asked.

The problem? There was never any legitimate format for addressing problems within the government of the church.

Tony and Sue where the pastors and the final authority.

This worked when we were all young and needed direction. Brothers should have been brought into the process within a year or two at most.
Without accountability any church is destined to fail.

I don't want you to get the impression that the way it is now, is anywhere near like it was then. The seed was there. Simply because Tony and Sue were not accountable to the anyone, that was the fertile ground where pride was able to flourish and to grow.

What I (and I am sure most people) view as legiimate questions by you, Tony views as a threat. "someone to be reckoned with." Instead of trying to answer your questions (but then again what can he say," you become a Catholic, homosexual, psycho analyst." Isn't that a wonderful Christian response?

We can use with the Word of God with authority, it is the truth. Jesus said about false accusers "What they say, they say about themselves".

Until the redemption admits to not knowing who you are "3. acts as if HE/She or It, was in the ministry," Therefore, with all the authority of the Word of God and Jesus Christ our Lord, without any waver we can say that the spirit that answered you on the remembrances board is homosexual.

We don't run from homosexuals we rebuke them.

I guess you can see why I started a new line for this response.

Love in Christ, Tom

[internuncio]

Well thought out and valid!

I have joy in knowing that although accountability is seemingly non-existant in the Alamo cult, one day Alamo WILL be held accountalbe before God for every word he spoke and every action he took against God's precious people.

[saved_21570]

Amen

[hollydolly]

all that was just said on this thread has already been said is already known! is this the intelligent conversations you are talking about nuncio? give me a break we know the scriptures we know how it was in the beginning and now in the end do you really think just because chris and i choose to behave the way we do on this board that we are ignorant of all of this? are you retarded? my parents were one of the first in the very beginning do you think they haven't told me all the old stories all the good and bad? i knew susan alamo until i was 6 yrs old very well my folks weren't baby christians they had close personal interaction with tony and sue!My dad knows all about accountablity, he did the paperwork why do you think alamo accused him of talking to the irs after the raid? who cares about all this? why should i have to explain any of this to you? you are an idiot and I have every right to be here and act as i choose ok? shut it!

[hollydolly]

nuncio- did you ever consider that the "kids" from the foundation like chris and I who were born there don't you think we have a completely different interest and feeling while on this message board? think about it we were read every scripture over and over for 12 or 15 years do you remember how vulnerable and different a child perceives things? were you a child or adult in the church? but besides my own experiences i have knowledge of why my folks were there how it was for them from beginning to end so would you please keep your opinion about how chris and i act to yourself? i am far from ignorant about all of this and the way i choose to behave is my business!

[habadasher]

Holly, why don't you and Chris just E-Mail one another? Then you would'nt have to read these threads. Just a thought.

[hollydolly]

now what fun would that be?

[until_the_redemption]

No Tom, we're not in sadness and fear but you and those that left can not find happiness, you show that in your posts of rememberance.
You have to go back over, and over, because you have not found the happiness you left for: remember when you heard from people?

Dear Pastor Alamo,
May God's grace and wisdom shower you to continue fighting this good fight of faith with Jesus Christ living and working in you leading sons to glory.
The Lord is using you in a mighty way to save some from the fire and thousands of souls depend on God's holy ministry through you.
I pray that God's will be done and that soon Jesus returns to destroy all the works of darkness that are ruining mankind.
The Bible says,"Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God." Philippians 1:11.
The Bible also says,"Not because I desire a gift:but I desire fruit that may abound to your account." Philippians 4:17.
May God continue fulfilling this scripture so that much fruit {saved souls) abounds to the account of the saints."For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night." 1 Thessalonians 5:2.
"Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober." "But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation." "For God bath not appointed us to wrath but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,' "Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. "Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do." 1 Thessalonians 5:6,8-11.
These are the last days and the return of our Lord is at hand so let us be strong and continue this good fight of faith because this is the victory that overcometh the world even our faith and if God be for us then who can be against us? Amen. Even so Lord Jesus come quickly. "Faithful is He that called you, who will also DO IT." 1 Thessalonians 5:24.
Your labor in the Lord is one the most important wakeup-calls-get right with God-turn away from wickedness in history and I pray that more laborers be added daily_ I also request literature and a medium sized T-shirt and a large sweater and I thank you for it before I receive!
The Bible says, "Brethren, pray for us." 1 Thessalonians 5:25. Would to God every TRUE Christian Church prayed as a group of prayer warriors in the Spirit with groans that cannot be uttered and lifted their voice unto God - how much good would be done!
God continue blessing you and the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all as well as every other Christ-honoring, born of the Spirit Christian. Amen.
Nicholas, New York,NY

[no_stoppin_me]

Until_the_redemption, is that all you know how to do is post stupid a&& letters from people who have no idea of the real "pastor" Alamo?

Can't you use your own brain and post your own thoughts? Or is your brain completely used up by filling it with TA's garbage all these years?

Seriously, those letters dont mean diddly. We used to stay up all hours of the night mailing out copies of those letters to people who really didnt give a crap about them. Another waste of our hard-earned money, just so TA could beat his chest again and say "Oh look at me! Aren't I wonderfull? See all the great works "I" am doing? Oh praise you Tony, thank you Tony"

It really is actually scary that people are still duped by him. They will so be held accountable for allowing his perversions to continue and the abuse of little children to gon on.

[iasmann]

Anybody can quote scriptures. All you have to do is copy and paste. So what if some guy in New York that has never met Tony writes a letter quoting scriptures. He's only been fooled because he's never met Tony. There aren't any new people coming in and staying. Even the bums won't go there anymore. They'd rather go hungry than listen to Tony Tapes and the praises of "WORLD PASTOR."

[saved_21570]

UTR,

Well, I am glad that you did not try to resist the Word of God. You did not deny that the spirit that answered nuncio was a homosexual spirit.

As far as being happy, I have a place of rest that you have never seen. I understand that you (UTR) are probably more than one person, but my hope, desire, and prayer is that any of you that are able, would truly turn to Jesus Christ the Lord and find the peace that the Father gives me, and all who love him in sincerity.

If God has not given up on you; You know you don't have peace. You know that Tony has had sex with other men's wives. You know how he has lied. When was the last time you heard Tony lie?
If he tells you to post that you have never heard him lie, will you lie?

If you do have peace, knowing what you know, odds are your conscience is seared and God can't reach you. I pray that is not the case.

Sincerely, Tom

[saved_21570]

UTR,

May I presume that your silence is a confirmation of my last post?

Tom

(Message edited by saved_21570 on July 09, 2006)