I read the tract [Archive]

marcel

09-12-2006, 02:12 PM

Hi
I read the tract.

I think something like that should been added :

Tony and Susie Alamo started being used by God to bring to salvation many young people , former drug addicts, hippies, and others ...

Then Sue went to meet the Lord and Tony did stay alone to run the foundation.

The Bible warns us to do everything in the multitude of counselors, but Tony never did that. He was alone, chief of everything at the foundation : spending of finances, writing of treaties, teaching, preaching (only simple salvation message was allowed to us when he was not there) , , etc...

All this was done by a single man who didn't listen to the counsel of the Lord, , and the devil got hold of him.

And Tony started to be lord over God's heritage

1 Peter 5: The elders (elders: plural, Tony is alone, no elders to tell him when he is doing wrong ) which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:

2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre (Tony spent lavishly a lot of foundation money that the brothers and sisters were making working hard, asking nothing for themselves thinking everything was for the sake of the Gospel).

3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage (Tony is the perfect example someone being lord aver God's heritage) but being ensamples to the flock. )

Then Tony started to beat kids very hard with a board.

Then it was adultery, many , many times. And he is still living with many women , thinking he is some kind of Arab prince (I know he probably like to think that of himself. )

So Tony is fallen from his first estate and he is now a shame to the body of Christ.
He must repent, and not think that because he talk about the gospel that he will be forgiven if he don't changed.

In fact, it seems that the Gospel is for him his new business. He got a lot of yes-men, finances, and women to fornicate with. Also he bribes people when he needs them (I know for a fact that he did it to promote one of his worldly record album as “the World pastor” that he claims to be….He gave a lot a finance to an L.A. magazine to have his record as one of the best sale record of the time, but it was just fake, lies and bribes..)

Tony, you use to say "Repent or perish".

To day we have to tell you the same thing.
Eternity s a long time to spend.
I used to be proud to have been saved at the foundation, but I am not proud anymore because of what it has been turned to by you today.
With the help of God.
Marcel

redeemed_9131970

09-12-2006, 05:25 PM

Praise the Lord, Marcel,
You've said it quite well, and to what you've said I can only add a resounding, hearty AMEN!!!

All praises be to our soon coming King, Jesus Christ the Righteous...

Your sister in Christ,
Carolyn Pryor ie: cp - Redeemed: 9/13/1970

marcel

09-12-2006, 07:48 PM

Happy birthday my sister Carolyn (tomorrow you will be 36 years old ! )
God bless you and Ronnie.
How are you doing?
And you kid ?(I forgot his name, sorry).
Your brother in Christ
Marcel

redeemed_9131970

09-12-2006, 08:29 PM

We're praising the Lord and doing just fine.
Our children Rodney (31 yrs old) and Stephani (30 yrs old this month) are both fine too. We miss so many of our brothers and sisters in the Lord that we've not seen or spoken to in many many years, and we miss their kids, too. That bond is special and fortunately time just can't break it.

Yes, tomorrow is my spiritual birthday - who would have ever thought the Lord would have tarried this long, but it's for sure we are closer now than when we first believed - no matter how we add it up - soon and very soon we are most assuredly going to see The King. Til then, the battle will only get tougher and so must His saints!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

Love in Christ,
cp - Redeemed: 9/13/1970

saved_21570

09-12-2006, 11:42 PM

Marcel,
Thank you for continuing in Christ. It is always good to read your posts.
Yours in Christ, Tom

P.s. Happy Bithday, Carolyn!

redeemed_9131970

09-13-2006, 12:20 AM

Thanks, Tom.

I've gotta give God all the glory for keeping me by His grace these many years. Be sure to give our best to Abby and the boys.

Your Memphis brethren, the p's

the_fbi

09-15-2006, 10:46 PM

first of all Marcel. Who was Tony supposed to be under. Bill Levy? Ian Mann? Tony had a supernatural calling and was saved first. The multitude of counselors are the older bro's and sisters in a church that brings sound doctrine. try going to any church and just talk to the pastor. you can hardly ever do that. usually you get counseling from the ones who have been saved for many years.

Marcel, again I ask, who is Tony supposed to submit to as his counselor? He was under Susie for several years until she died and was more than qualified to handle the job as Pastor at that time. He did a good job and threw out the riff raff. anyone who gets thrown out can most often be able to come back if they're sincere. if they're not sincere that becomes manifest too cause they bring accusations against the pastor.

People like Ian Mann and Susie Grouix are definately plants. Sue went on to be a major deprogrammer for a branch of CAN and Ian is a total heretic on some radio station and his son is a murderer in an illegal war. It just proves these people were plants. How can you support someone to fight in an illegal war and say you're a Christian? maybe a catholic but that's not Christian anyway.

mborek

09-15-2006, 10:59 PM

to fbi....you said "People like Ian Mann and Susie Grouix are definately plants. Sue went on to be a major deprogrammer for a branch of CAN and Ian is a total heretic on some radio station ..."....

I'm sure you have documented proof of this. Please enlighten us dim-witted cattle with some substantiated proof......(as to the cattle reference, ask your boss... he made that one up )

hollydolly

09-15-2006, 11:16 PM

illegal war.........lololololol.........you alamonites are flippin nuts man quack quack

mborek

09-15-2006, 11:25 PM

you people at toni's place don't have TV's, aren't allowed newspapers and can't listen to the radio. How would you know anything at all about what is going on in the world today? Oh I forgot, toni tells you what to believe.....

mborek

09-15-2006, 11:31 PM

and the saddest part of that is...you're all just too DAMN lazy to find out for yourselves. It's much easier to be TOLD what to believe than to find out for yourselves.....

the_fbi

09-15-2006, 11:48 PM

hey loser, I don't live in the church. I just happen to be supportive of his writings and messages. where's your proof about anything you're alledging tony is doing? you don't have any. I'm going by what comes out of their own mouth. add two and two together and you always get four. it's obvious what kind of people you are. assuming I'm living in the church and what not. and you haven't been there for how long? how do you know what they can and can not do?

you're own family came on here and called you a flakey liar!! and you have the nerve to come on here again? m. borek you straight up flake.

you left the ministry and your wife for an ex wh-o-r-e!!!

then you slander a poor little girl who doesn't even live at the church at all and say she's married to a 70 something year old man? you lying dirty devils is all you are. paid scum witnesses.

mborek

09-15-2006, 11:58 PM

took you long enough.... what??? couldn't get a hold of your boss to find out how to respond??

Brave man, hiding behind an anonymous keyboard and all.... please tell me that you've got something better than that...."a straight up flake"...how will I ever sleep tonight??...I'm crushed

as far as what you finished with
"then you slander a poor little girl who doesn't even live at the church at all and say she's married to a 70 something year old man? you lying dirty devils is all you are. paid scum witnesses""
.....toni must have told you that, because I sure didn't....oops, that must mean you lied. Didn't I read somewhere in your bible that ALL LIARS shall burn in hell? Yes I think I did... You better repent.....

iasmann

09-15-2006, 11:59 PM

I was not a plant. I am a person who got saved and loved the Lord and still do.

How many of my radio broadcasts have you listened to? None! You don't even know which station it's on. Just like your master Tony you judge without any evidence.

The fact is I read the Bible on my program. Is that heresy? I exalt the name of Jesus. Is that heresy?

Tony is the heretic. He's the one preaching salvation by works and not faith like the Bible says. He's the one saying we are under Old Testament law but not keeping it himself.

Judas had a supernatural experience too. So What! His supernatural experience and his real ability (unlike Tony's falsly claimed ability) to heal and raise people from the dead didn't make it OK for him to betray the Lord. Did it?

Tony's questionable but possibly true experience doesn't give him a license to sin. Being called of God doesn't make it OK to lie, steal, rape, commit adultery, beat children with 2X4's or any of the many other sinful things Tony does and condones.

Nowhere in the Bible does God tell his prophets and disciples to deny his teachings in Public. But that's what Tony does. He practices Polygamy in private and claims it's from God but denies it in public. He practices child marriage in his church claiming it is Godly but denies it in public as well.

He's a phony.

The Bible says "Yea, all of you be subject one to another," There is no dictatorship by individuals in the church. Christ annointed 12 apostles. He didn't put anyone of them in charge. There were other Pastors around that could have counseled Tony but the fact is Tony is too puffed up to listen to anybody. He wouldn't listen to Susie. She told him to leave the church and go to Europe when she died. Did he do that? NO!

Being saved first doesn't mean anything. The greatest apostle - Paul - was saved last. But for the fleshy lustful type of sins Tony is commiting the Bible says the least in the church should judge. So Tony should be subject not to someone who has been saved for a long time but to the youngest baby christian. Even they know that adultery, lying, stealing, child abuse and rape are wrong.

Who did my son murder? Do you even know what he did in Iraq? NO! You don't care either. You're like Tony. You love to rail on others. It makes you feel big. Who cares if it's a lie. They came against the mighty world pastor therefore anything goes.

You are so predictably pathetic. By the way if you can produce one cancelled check to me from the FBI, CIA, NSA, or Vatican I'll eat it with salt and pepper. HAHAHAHA LOL BMG

iasmann

09-16-2006, 12:04 AM

Correction. At the end of my last post I meant to say HAHAHAHA LOL BMGL ROFL HEHEHEHE HOHOHOHO HAHAHAHA.

the_fbi

09-16-2006, 12:09 AM

you preach murdering innocent Iraqis is the work of God. that's the worst heresy you can preach and you sent your son over there to do it. that proves your some sort of plant. no-one in their right mind, or as you say 'love the Lord' would have allowed that.

do i have to go back and pull out your old posts about how you support skull and bones, bohemian grove member, jesuit puppet, murderer Bush and his illegal war?

you're saying you read bible scripture on the air. ha ha! what a lie!! like, that's all you do right? is read Bible scripture? you don't comment and add your heresy right? ha ha!! come on!!!

catholics say they love the lord too. only they mean the Pope.

mborek

09-16-2006, 12:13 AM

Ian, I have to correct you one one point.... At one point when toni first started beating kids, it was a 2x4....but as things got worse and toni's lusts got stronger, he had one of the carpenters make a special oak 1x6, about 48"-54" long and had this particular carpenter drill a series of holes in it to make it hurt even worse. It had a handle and even a polyurethane finish on it. It used to be kept behind the chair in the basement at toni's house. The basement is where most of those beatings took place. Some took place in the school, but most were administered in toni's basement.

mborek

09-16-2006, 12:17 AM

fbi....you said...."catholics say they love the lord too. only they mean the Pope."

You say you love the Lord also, but you mean toni.

hollydolly

09-16-2006, 01:12 AM

nobody in their right mind would allow their kid to go and fight in a war for his country?? hmmmmmmmm how many wars were there in the bible? can't count........the bible is used only for tony alamo when he needs to back things up but other than that you people just skip over the rest huh? lolol you don't live in the church? bull****

hollydolly

09-16-2006, 01:19 AM

speaking of lying didn't someone say recently that tony performed miracles? lololololol

mborek

09-16-2006, 01:26 AM

this is typical toni "logic"....fbi said...."you preach murdering innocent Iraqis is the work of God. that's the worst heresy you can preach and you sent your son over there to do it. that proves your some sort of plant."

Let's take this statement and dissect it. These "innocent" Iraqis have killed around 2,000 American men and women. Just whose side are you on anyway, fbi??

That is not the worst heresy you can preach (another lie). And if one did indeed preach that, that would in no way PROVE THEY WERE SOME SORT OF PLANT.

First you adamantly affirm he IS a plant, then you use some ridiculous twisted logic and change your statement to say because his son is a soldier in the military that that proves he MUST BE "some sort of plant"....

You must be the only one that can't see how ignorant you sound...(you and your boss)

hollydolly

09-16-2006, 01:36 AM

lolol...........ignorant is saying it nicely

the_fbi

09-16-2006, 01:42 AM

I might kill you too if you came into my yard and tried to hurt my family. the iraqis are trying to defend themselves. they have a right to. we shouldn't be there. it's amazing how brainwashed you people are. and holly dolly you are what you accuse others of. Jesus and Paul said in the new testament that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal and the Lord told Peter, 'he who lives by the sword, dies by it' and holly dolly I say you accuse others of what you're guilty of because you admittedly claim you're not a christian yet you're trying to teach out of the Bible. The wars in the OT were always God doing it anyway? remember? this isn't God in making our troops go over there retard. remember how Bush lied to everyone to go over there in the first place? You people are so lost!

I just have to come on here and show everybody that.

(Message edited by the_fbi on September 15, 2006)

weaned_child

09-16-2006, 01:51 AM

on a personal note FBI: {Blah-blah-blah…

I just have to come on here and say that to you.

the_fbi

09-16-2006, 02:11 AM

weaned_child, dont try to talk down to me cause you have two more posts under your belt than I do. I'm up and coming. remember that, yeah, remember THAT!

weaned_child

09-16-2006, 03:39 AM

FBI – I’m not here to contend with you. There’s much bigger fish to fry on this site

your posting 'breath' comes off just like rhinoceros pizzle

you're going to have to do a lot better than your previous posts to prove you're ready for the big leagues

your postings reek of teeny tinyism* and grossly smack of retardation

Here’s a clue,
you’ll never be a poster worth reading cause your posts don’t make a lick of sense. Further more, small fry, you’ve spewed them all over this site evidencing the obvious – you just really can’t think for yourself and you’re too dumb to realize it!

Polly-parrot, polly-parrot
Now run along and ask your puppet master how he wants you to crush those cookies

*Tony Alamo’s tired rhetoric

weaned_child

09-16-2006, 03:54 AM

PS: FBI

For your own good...

GET A LIFE!!!

iasmann

09-16-2006, 04:21 AM

FBI, Please pull those posts out. I've never said any thing like that. I've never erased any of my posts like Tony's followers because I'm not ashamed of what I have to say. Every one of my 262 previous posts is on here. If I've supported those things then tell everybody the post number and thread it's on. Put up or shut up. I'm calling you out. Remember the only reason I post on here is so that people who get Tony's tracts and google him will be able to find out the truth. So if I have said those things then for their sake show them where to find it. If you really are telling the truth and you really do care about their souls then you'll do it.

Of course since you are the liar you'll either ignore this post, or come back with some more of your bizarre leap frog logic.

By the way 30 more innocent Iraqi's were found dead today in Baghdad. None of them killed by U.S. soldiers. All of them killed by the terrorists you love so much. Muslim terrorists are responsible for 100% of the innocent deaths in Iraq. Not U.S. soldiers. You are a dirty traitorous liar and so is Tony. He only likes the Muslims because they allow wife beating, polygamy, and forced child marriages. They are far closer in doctrine to him than any Christian church.

iasmann

09-16-2006, 04:23 AM

FBI, Please pull those posts out. I've never said any thing like that. I've never erased any of my posts like Tony's followers because I'm not ashamed of what I have to say. Every one of my 262 previous posts is on here. If I've supported those things then tell everybody the post number and thread it's on. Put up or shut up. I'm calling you out. Remember the only reason I post on here is so that people who get Tony's tracts and google him will be able to find out the truth. So if I have said those things then for their sake show them where to find it. If you really are telling the truth and you really do care about their souls then you'll do it.

Of course since you are the liar you'll either ignore this post, or come back with some more of your bizarre leap frog logic.

By the way 30 more innocent Iraqi's were found dead today in Baghdad. None of them killed by U.S. soldiers. All of them killed by the terrorists you love so much. Muslim terrorists are responsible for 100% of the innocent deaths in Iraq. Not U.S. soldiers. You are a dirty traitorous liar and so is Tony. He only likes the Muslims because they allow wife beating, polygamy, and forced child marriages. He is far closer in doctrine to them than to any Christian church.

iasmann

09-16-2006, 04:32 AM

FBI, I've got my salt and pepper out. I'm waiting for those cancelled CIA, FBI,NSA,Vatican checks. Even a cancelled check from skull and bones will do.

Incidently, I apologize for taking so long to answer your post. Just like you have to check with Tony about what to say, I have to wait for word from Benny. With the time difference between here and Rome you can imagine what it's like. Although I've noticed Benny gets back to me a lot quicker than Tony does to you.

Another nice thing is that Benny has my responses typed for me. All I have to do is cut and paste.

wilma

09-16-2006, 03:53 PM

fbi,
Sorry I haven't had a chance to read your posts and respond until now. I'm just getting back from my long vacation at the Vatican where I was spending all the checks I've been raking in from the CIA, FBI, NSA, BATF, CAN, CFR etc LOL ROFL LOL LOL HA HA
(because you're such an idiot, I better explain that that is a joke)

Tell me fbi, do you REALLY believe all those delusional lies Tony Alamo tells you??????? When Tony isn't busy raping and beating little girls he is busy deceiving and being deceived. I think he's so far gone that he might actually believe some of his own lies.

If, as you say, you don't live at the church than how do you know Tony isn't raping and beating little girls??? (Since you are such a strong supporter of Tony, WHY don't you live at the church??)

You said, "Show me the proof." Well, Jody and Tami have posted first hand accounts of being raped by Alamo. CindiJo and NikkiF have posted on Factnet that they were subjected to his vile sex talk in prison. Tracey witnessed that she sent her daughter to Colo to be a playmate for Becky and Tony named Katrina as a wife and subjected her to vile sex talk in prison. NikkiF and Piper witnessed Alamo brutally beating Jordan, Tabor, Lydia, Amy, Nikki, etc. Jared, Eric, Mike B, SueB, Ian, Carolyn, Simon, myself, and many others have witnessed the beating of children and adults that went on for many years. So there's the proof! you asked for!!
SG

raining

09-16-2006, 04:02 PM

Newspaper: The Commercial Appeal
Article: Alamo Found Guilty of Tax Evasion, Jailed
Date: 06/09/1994

"...U.S. Dist. Judge Jon McCalla ordered Alamo held without bond after a government witness testified that Alamo may have committed bigamy and statutory rape in the past 18 months."

The Witness, IRS special agent David Kimbrough, quoting one of Alamo's ex-wives, said Alamo took as many as nine wives, mostly teen and some as young as 15 years old. Kimbrough said some of the teenage wives were forced into the church marriages by threats of being thrown out of the church. At least one woman told agents she was forced to have sex with Alamo.

Justice Department attorney Christopher Belcher also pointed out that Alamo was a fugitive between mid-1989 and mid-1991, when he was wanted on several criminal charges. He still faces felony child abuse charges in California, where he is accused of ordering the beating of the child of a follower...

Kimbrough said members of Alamo's church told IRS agents that they feared for their own daughters because Alamo recently had begun marrying girls as young as 12, and even suggested that he would marry his own stepdaughter, who is 11...

Among the 40 witnesses called by the government were former followers and three of Alamo's ex-wives who detailed his extravagant spending for himself and his wives.

An Arkansas banker testified that Alamo alone controlled more than 20 bank accounts in the name of various businesses under the Music Square Church.

the_fbi - Wake up and see the real monster of Fouke!

PS: Here is a clue - The monster is a midget that wears elevator high heels and beats little children, practices polygamy and rapes under age girls. He is a known pedophile -- it's Tony Alamo!

(Message edited by Raining on September 16, 2006)

phahrrrt_detector

09-16-2006, 06:51 PM

Ooh-wee
til_da_ademption

looks lahk yo compadre fbi
ben gettin hiz haid whipped up on

y aint u jumpin n
to hep him out o dis mess
he dun got hiself into?

ol Shmoni mus be hunkerd down somewhar
(mabe hiz boinkroom
u jes nevah noes wif Shmoni s hectic schedul n all)

cuz po fbi ben lef jes a dangling
on da hook
wif hiz pants down (umm sos t speek)
yup its looking purty bahd fo da home teem

end_time

09-16-2006, 08:10 PM

Let’s not evade the issue, Tony knows that Jeff’s arrest and soon prosecution has marked the end of his barbaric era, Tony is now franticly trying to cover his insanity, within the past two months Tony went to the County Clerk’s office and attempted to get a marriage license. He had 3 different ID’s but none of them were credible. He told the clerk registrar that he was Tony Alamo. (Big Deal) When he failed to produce proper ID she refused to give him the license. He simply laughed at her and walked out. Tony perhaps you could find another Identification to steel from someone like you did to Harvey Cochran. Imagine for a moment right now there is a place out in Arkansas country beyond most prying eyes where Tony Alamo, keeps several underage wife’s or secretaries as he refers to them, corralled under the guise of representing a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible, when in reality it is a strange and sordid display of Tony Alamo’s delusions brought on by his inflated ego and lust. Tony alone considers himself to be the ultimate moral mediator, and presents himself as the "Ultimate One": a vehicle of god, a genius, the leader of humankind, but in reality is his grandiosity is insignificant because he so thoroughly disregards the basic precepts of the laws of life.

no_stoppin_me

09-16-2006, 08:54 PM

Until and FBI are probably the same person.

hollydolly

09-16-2006, 09:31 PM

i am so ••••••• sick and tired of idiots repeating over and over again that president bush lied wahwahwah.....just like a ••••••• democrat saying its not fair........lolol if all the wars in the ot were by God than how the hell do you know the wars now aren't? things happen for a reason this war was allowed by God just like hes allowing girls to be molested and raped in tony alamo's house!!!! nobody knows why nobody knows the master plan...........our country is doing its best to retaliate and keep our freedoms......i suppose you would be much better suited for the presidency better meaning what? bill clinton? lolol

rich_hydell

09-16-2006, 09:39 PM

holly, let me ask u a question ..if two born again football teams were pleying a game of ball and both pray before the game for god to let them win ...whos prayer will god answer and let win ........answer ..the team with me on it because jesus knows my heart ..and he cares for me .......see these people get so off the reality of what this board is about ....a team wins ...but this is no team ........sex drugs and rock ...see it was easy for me i not only believed but i got off my arse and made things happen

the_fbi

09-16-2006, 11:11 PM

Ian, first of all, we killed almost 100,000 innocent civilians (mostly children) over there because of what? Saddam? the one we put in there in the first place? you underestimate the CIA and other covert groups like them. They are probably the ones killing the arab civilians in Iraq and making it look like there's an enemy, or civil war going on.

The Iraqis have stated that the student has been removed and the schoolmaster is there now.

even the UN seem like the merciful ones who traded oil for food because they were starving to death because of the embargo against them. there's no excuse for this. we're supposed to be preaching the gospel to people and giving them food, not withholding food. is that the 'gospel' you preach on your radio station? it must be because why would it be any different than here unless you have a split personality which is possible.

the big picture? this is a strategic move because the Pope is going to be put into the third rebuilt temple of Solomon and need to clear a lot of these Muslims out of there. It's a religious war, an inquisition.

all these other 'reasons' are smokescreens but they will be clearing that area of muslims, bringing in nato and UN troops all over that place to supply total control of the area for the Pope.

weaned_child

09-16-2006, 11:51 PM

Pssst, fbi
In case you didn’t notice, you’re on the wrong site.
You need to move your action to:
Political, Governmental, Military or Terrorist Organisations
Who knows, you might get better reception in a forum that’s not hip to your mental inadequacies.
But your stuff is played out here so why don’t you be a good ol boy and take your trash elsewhere – we ain’t interested and we ain’t buying into your feeble-minded ‘distractions’
In other words, this ain’t the place for your so-called 'end of time' political enlightenment.
so-o-o-o...

TAKE A HIKE!!!

wilma

09-17-2006, 12:11 AM

the-fbi,
Are you Tommy Richards...come out of hiding...to accuse and try to change the subject? Tommy Richards also used the screen name tlthe5th, alamosupporter, etc.

Tommy, you still haven't gone back to the Alamo compound to kiss the Fouke Monster???

This thread/category is about Tony Alamo. You asked for proof of his crimes against children and we provided plenty of proof. Why do you ignore the proof by ranting on about the war? There are plenty of evils in this world besides Tony Alamo, agreed, but Factnet provides an opportunity for people to speak up about the evils of spiritual abuse, and people who manipulate and control others in the name of God. Like weaned_child said, you're on the wrong thread for discussing the war. Could it be that you choose to ignore the truth of the atrocities that Tony Alamo has committed??
SG

christophr19

09-17-2006, 12:27 AM

Fbi...
the fact that you know your history(somewhat)and you can see what is coming down the pike for our world; doesn't make you right in all counts.
If we look at the facts(the real facts and not what is presented to the sheeple by the media), you would be right and Ian and all others who support this war....(supporting any war is comepletely contradictory to anything Jesus ever spoke about...but that is a whole other issue)...would be misinformed and guilty by association. Sorry Cuz, you know I love you and all, but we do disagree when it comes to this.

However, none of that makes you(fbi)right in regards to phony and his cult of sheeple....which we were all part of, at one time.
So you can read and understand history and agendas of the elite; how does seeing evil in the system of Mammon, excuse what phony does? It doesn't! Trying to deny that phony is guilty of all that he is accused of, is ridiculous and you know it! So let's not go there....again.
You really should stop trying to convince these people of what you know of history and agendas, they don't care, and aren't going to listen to anything you have to say; especially when you defend phony's madness and deviancy. Look at how they make fun of me for passing on information....and I am on their side!