Why all the LIES Tony

[raining]

Holly & Chris did you see Dot's letter to UNSOLVED MYSTERIES posted on the alamo site under FALSE ACCUSERS AGAINST TONY ALAMO.

Dot wrote this letter while still living inside the foundation, while she was still FOOLED into thinking Tony Alamo was a man of God. Her letter is 95% a "praise you, thank you Tony" letter.

Those who lived in the foundation during this time frame know what really happened to Carissa!

It is a FACT that Tony Alamo had her beaten for having Epileptic seizures. Tony said to beat the demon possession out of her.

What Jim Griffin told UNSOLVED MYSTERIES about Tony Alamo commanding Carissa to be beaten for having Epileptic seizures is 100% the truth!

Jim Griffin saw the beatings, and many others saw the beatings Carissa was given via orders from Tony Alamo!

For those who did not have the opportunity to know Carissa - she is the sweetest, kindest, and most forgiving young lady you could have the pleasure of knowing.

Holly is Carissa's cousin, and Chris is her brother. They can also testify about Tony Alamo commanding Carissa to be beaten.

TONY ALAMO YOU ARE A LIAR!

[raining]

Posted on Sunday by Double J November 13, 2005 - 2:00 am:

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Tony Alamo ordered my brother to be beaten (Bob Streit was the one who hit him) 140 times with a board. He got 70 swatts at a time. All for liking a girl. His butt was bleeding when we got home. I will never forget that.

The following are just some of the names I can recall of people who were beaten at the orders of Tony Alamo at the "Spec house' on the ridge in Arkasas back in the late 80's. Aaron Willis, Tylon Willis, Sevon Green, Eric Ondersak, Johnny Way, My self - Jared Balsley,

Carissa Curry (for having epileptic seizures ),

and Rodney Pryor. These are just some of the names of peple who were beaten that I can remember off hand. I wont sit here and quote sciptures, and will not get into a debate with any of you either pro or non pro Alamo supporters, However there were many children beaten.

[raining]

Tony Alamo commands children to be suspended in mid-air, spread eagle while a brut beast with a board beats them bloody 1-140 times!

Justin Miller was removed from the Alamo Foundation by the LA country sheriff's department after suffering one of these horrific beatings commanded by Tony Alamo, (the self annointed "World Pastor")

This kind of a beating was inflicted upon many of the foundation children. However the Justin Miller beating was was the only one that leaked outside of the foundation.

There were lots of children who were commanded by Tony Alamo to be the receipent of a beating just like the one justin miller got!

Tony Alamo's dirty secrets are now being exposed!

[jackrussell]

C'mom guys, we believe you, but 'what have you done for me lately?' Inquiring minds want to know. There would be no reason to even think this kind of stuff has stopped this century since year 2000, but the DA needs current material evidence, testimony, etc. Anyone coming forward with similar accounts of happenings this calender year would sure be helpful. Fresh evidentiary material would be most helpful.

[raining]

When people finally leave or get "kicked out" of the Alamo foundation it takes years to come to grips with what really happened to them. The "Don't touch my anointed" doctrined has been driven in so well that most are too scared to say a word about the world pervert,Tony Alamo!

Tony's followers lie about the child beatings, and the multiple wives saying it is untrue. They've been taught that it is okay to lie to the devil. The Alamo's consider the world and those outside the Alamo Foundation as "devils". Therefore in their minds they are not lying, they are defending the prophet (profit)!

It can take 5,10, 15 or more years for people to begin to understand what really happened to them during their time inside the foundation, under Tony Alamo's control.

Everytime Tony Alamo says a lie on his radio broadcast - I'm going to expose the lie. He has been telling some of the same lies for almost 40 years now, so as long as he tells those lies I will keep exposing him for the LIAR that he is.

[jackrussell]

Raining,
Not trying to put you guys on the spot, just playing the devils advocate, as would be the position of TA's defense attys. Do understand what you are saying about the aftermath damage and time it usually takes to be able to come forth. Everyone, with any human interest, applauds you as heroes for enlightening the entire world concerning this atrocious situation!! But if someone freshly rescued out of there could come forth and corraborate the same kind of crimes against children and women, it could be like a nail in the coffin.

And also, any men with children and women in there should be working on a good ruse to get them out, and get their loved ones 'deprogrammed.' Ohhh, such a scary word!! No, the scary 'word' is the lies Alamo is telling you, and the spell he has put on you.

[saved_21570]

Jack,

You're right it would be great for people fresh out to be willing to testify. Perhaps, the abundunce of testimonials from others will enbolden them to tell the truth.

But, it does take time to digest. It takes time to be honest with yourself, that the things you saw, that were wrong, are not just mistakes, or character flaws.

To accept the reality that Tony is wicked in the core of his soul is what is hard, and that is what someone has to acknowledge, in order to begin posting what they know.

Even though they aknowledge, in their own minds, that the deeds, actions, the orders, and the lies, were evil. They have spent many long years justifing these things in various ways. ofen times taking the blame on themselves, or putting it on the "U" people, or just minimizing it in their minds.

[hollydolly]

I wasn't an eye witness to Carissa's beating but i was waiting at Dot's house and will never forget how disturbed she was afterwards........Carissa has seizures to this day........and has the purests heart of anyone I've ever known.

[nuncio48]

Holly,
You don't remember when Carissa would have siezures and everyone would all gather around her and "plead the blood" against her and say "bind the devil" and Aunt Dot would like slap her in the face or slap her leg or butt and call her name loudly to bring her out of her seizure. I can see it to this very day, in my head, she would stare blankly and turn a shade of pale grey and she would clench down real hard and maybe drool a slight bit. Then she would come to after a little bit and we would all be around her and she would say, "What, what happened why are you all around me?" and she would laugh in that sweet Carissa laugh. She really is a doll and never deserved to be mistreated. I know that Aunt Dot never meant to hurt her child. She only did what she was told to do. It was so foreign to any of us, the whole epilepsy thing. No one knew what was happening to Carissa and in a cult environment there is no room for the unknown. It causes the leader to lose power and authority because in a cult setting everyone looks to the leader to fix everything. When Tony could not fix Carissa through beatings, pleading the blood, diet control, and Dr's I'm sure he blamed the sins of the parents or some such nonsence. Such a shame....

[hollydolly]

like I've said before, I spent more time at the Curry's and Orlandos than my own parents home.......I'm well aware of Carissa's seizures........I was present for most of them........why did you ask if I remembered? seems like an odd question

[jackrussell]

U people DOUBT, and are SINFUL, explains all failure in the Alamo Correctional Institute. Why the sick can't be healed, why Carissa could not be exorcised, why Sue could not rise from the dead, why the devil stole the finances, why TA went to prison, why there is no revival here in this place. The Lord calls for repentence so guilt can be laid at the cross. Tony then takes that guilt off the cross and gives it all back. What heresy!!! What bondage!!! Come out of that place and you will start leaving your guilt behind.

[nuncio48]

Holly let me first address you:
I asked if you remembered the seizures because I figured if I jogged your memory back to those early months when she had them, maybe you would recall your Aunt Dot slapping Carissa and spanking her for having seizures. I was just trying to kind of jog your memory. I think you were very young at the time. Maybe that is why you don't recall... also, your mom may have kept that from you. I know that if I was a mom I would not want my child to know about that kind of awful thing.

JackRussell, WOW what a fantastic post! I completely and totally agree with you 100%. You should re-post that on every thread!

[nuncio48]

Holly let me first address you:
I asked if you remembered the seizures because I figured if I jogged your memory back to those early months when she had them, maybe you would recall your Aunt Dot slapping Carissa and spanking her for having seizures. I was just trying to kind of jog your memory. I think you were very young at the time. Maybe that is why you don't recall... also, your mom may have kept that from you. I know that if I was a mom I would not want my child to know about that kind of awful thing.

JackRussell, WOW what a fantastic post! I completely and totally agree with you 100%. You should re-post that on every thread!

[hollydolly]

I remember it all........just don't care to talk about it.

[nuncio48]

You said in an earlier post that you didn't recall Carissa being beaten for having seizures. I wasn't trying to dredge up old memories. I was simply responding to your earlier post. I'm sorry if all of this talk about Carissa has caused you hurt. Some things, sadly, hit closer to home. For you, I'm sure this is one of those things.

[nuncio48]

<font color="ff0000">I had a thought today... If Dorothy Curry no longer feels the way she once felt (in the letter posted on Alamo's web site) WHY doesn't Dorothy Curry call Tony Alamo and DEMAND that he remove her letter from his web site??? </font>

[hollydolly]

in an earlier post i said i wasn't present when the beatings happened and that i never saw it happen but i know that she was beaten............anyway enough

[raining]

I know for a fact this was and still is very painful for the entire family, including Holly. Everyone who knows Carissa - loves her.

Tony Alamo is such a LIAR - if he would admit what he did, then I would leave him alone. As long as Tony Alamo KEEPS LYING - then I will continue to repost to refute lies he is currently telling.

I'm so sorry for any hurt or pain this has cause you Holly. I love you and all who are hurt by these posts. I just can not believe tony alamo stoops so low as to put lies up on his web site for all to see he is plainly lying.

[nuncio48]

If you want to hear all out lies you have to get on Phony Bloney's web site and go to the link about how he is being persecuted for righteousness' sake. His mouth drips with his father's (saten's) lies. You can hear his harem say "amen". Not a single male voice in the bunch... just a bunch of girls amening him to death. One of them sounds like their mouth is full... I will leave it up to you to guess what is in her mouth.

[raining]

I heard the same thing - not a male voice except toni's - all females voices saying a very flat "Amen" to toni almighty. (OF COURSE WE ALL KNOW THOSE ARE THE VOICES OF HIS WIVES, CONCUBINES AND SEX SLAVES)

The flat "Amen's " came in behind Toni's praise of himself! He gives himself all the glory saying he now has power to make it rain and to stop the rain! The gospel according to toni - he has raised the dead. His great swelling lips are powered by his ego, those lips will say anything that floats into his mind, ie buddies with Bill Clinton! LIAR

His broadcasts are FILLED WITH LIES! Phoney Toni - I promise you as long as you keep telling your lies - I'm going to keep posting what really happened! Stop LYING!

[jackrussell]

What is with all these radio stations giving this putz all this airtime. Don't any of the owners read the papers, or is an Alamo gift in the bosom to them so much they are willing to look the other way. No matter, let him spew. He is putting so much foot in mouth, may catch a cow disease. Give him enough rope and he will hang himself.