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[richie (richie)]

well were do you start..first of all i do not type so the hell with all the english lessions i never took any way..so richard hydell here some peaple call me a saint and aome call me the devil...as my teen daughter would say whatever...lol..and by the way if any grown man messed with any of my kids i would break the sob in two then shoot the joker...the joker is from mike stokel..lol..yes im old school foundation,,joined aug 21 1970....a couple years ago i call tony and we talked for a while ,he had just gotten out of prison,,and was in a half way house...he had done his time and i just felt we needed a chat..see i left in 1978 i was very close to him and sue ,,,when the lord needed things done ...weather it was sues clinic douple pedal eye lashes or a outfit for the stamps ...i kicked •••....and im very happy about that..i was in my heart doing it for jesus who i still love and pray to many times a day....not for tony or sue...when i felt in my heart that what was going on was not right i left....after a while i could not stop thinking about my friends...jim ,ernie gorbea,,,,ann jennie...and so many others i felt i needed to do something,,,,,wow ,their is so much i could say..i would be here for days....i dont think ill be doing much posting so please both sides be kind i hate friggen typing.....ha...should i hate tony and sue...well for my 8 years i was their its not the same as it was for any one else ...i always spoke the truth even if some one said something about tony and sue that i knew was wrong,,,the truth always wins..at least in my heart..go with your heart be angry if you feel pain,,,cry ....talk it out...and email me... destinyrh@aol.com..if you want ill give you my phone#..and we can talk...ok so much for me...by the way i have a new cd at www.wreckedband.com (http://www.wreckedband.com) ..send me your address and ill send you a copy its rock and roll ..and getting some dam good reviews.....peace...richard

havebrainwilltravel (havebrainwilltravel)

[iasmann (iasmann)]

Tony did change his name after he was saved but not legally. He changed his name when he was in hiding to Harvey Cochran.

Harvey was a brother who got permanently disabled in a car wreck while out distributing Tony's literature. He had been at the foundation for about 20 years. After he was injured Tony didn't want to pay for his care so he dumped him in a nursing home and abandoned him. He said he was a weasel for having the accident. That's Tony's idea of Christian love.

Then Tony stole his ID when he went into hiding.

Nancy Ross says, "On July 5, 1991, Alamo was "captured" in Tampa, Florida where he and other church members openly operated a hardware store and family-style restaurant."

The coward was openly going under the name of Harvey Cochran and using Harvey's ID. Again this is indisputable fact that is backed by arrest records and court records. He was not going around under his own name like Nancy alleges.

Have you noticed the pattern yet. Everything Tony accuses everyone else off he is actually guilty of himself. The evidence he uses against them is based on hearsay and unprovable allegations. But God has arranged for the evidence against Tony to be 100% verifiable by sworn court testimony or other public records.

Of course Tony will say it's all a Vatican or Can plot blah, blah, blah. But think about this.

What are the chances that all these people from around the country are CAN members or Jesuit priests. You've got Jury members in Memphis, police officers in Tampa, a truck sales company in Arkansas, a bankruptcy court, his own website, a book written long before he got saved, a car dealer in Nashville, his own tax returns etc. The list goes on and on. They can't all be plants working for CAN or the Vatican but that's what Tony keeps saying. It's like a broken record. Just read Nancy Ross's story.

Not to mention dozens of people who have personally known him and have seen real atrocities far worse than anything mentioned here.

He wants to know why I don't talk about the altar calls full of souls with tears streaming down their faces. Because that hasn't happened over there in almost THIRTY years. That's why. All he has now is 15 year old testimonies from Chalais and Demoulin. It's pathetic. The scribes and pharisee's searched land and sea and got a proselyte. Tony's so pathetic he searches land and sea but can't come up with a new proselyte in 15 years.

Tony did destroy the foundation. It says so right in the Nancy Ross story. Tony gave up 52 million dollars worth of the Lord's property to the devil. Property that God had given to the church to use in winning souls that Christ died for. Tony gave it all away in a fit of uncontrollable rage when he had a little boy beaten 140 times with a 2 by 4. And when he lied on his tax return.

The bible says "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper:" that's why the Lord took away everything he had and threw him in jail.

We helped him to cover his sin that's why we ended up on the street as well. But we took heed to the second half of that scripture, "whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy" and Tony hardened his heart to it.

Tony is still covering up these sins decades later. I know many of the people posting for him are doing so because they are coerced. The Lord knows that and will have mercy. But some of you are grown men and women who know better and are in a position to stop what's going on just by going to the police and reporting it. There is no statute of limitations on child molestation. That's why all these catholic priests were busted 20 and 30 years after their crimes. It will never be too late to report this stuff until Tony is in the grave.

His greatest claim to fame is a bunch of letters from foreign countries from people who've never even met him. He writes tracts and preaches messages about stuff he doesn't practice anywhere but in his own mind.

Susie always used to say "if you want to know how to do something ask someone who's never done it." That about fits the bill for Tony's tracts.

[smitty (smitty)]

Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 10:19 am:

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Being somewhat klutzy w/ the computer, I can't seem to contact the Moderators of these threads. Would someone else who can PLEASE get ahold of them and get this crap cleaned up.

[rattlesnake (rattlesnake)]

I am sure that even God is cringing at this so called Christian language and behaviour that you alamo supporters use.
Probably even Tony would be disappointed in you because for an outsider to sit and read all of this, they would definately not believe that a leader who allowed his followers to speak and behave in such an outrageous and rude manner would be a leader led by God.

All the time that you spend trying to convince outsiders how righteous and godly Tony Alamo is, is blown to bits by all your nasty posts.

Seriously think about it from a mature point of view if you will. The Alamo supporters are the ones trying to prove that Tony is led by God and that everyone else is just trying to destroy Tony, for whatever reason.

If you, alamo supporters, had never heard of Tony Alamo, and you were seriously trying to get some sort of answers about whether or not he was truly led by God, would you find what you are saying very convincing?

I know you will come back at me with something rude, at this point I expect nothing less, but I think that if you really search your heart, deep down you know this is true.

If you truly believe that Tony is who you think he is, then do you not think that he is capable of defending himself?

And if you are truly worried about someone getting turned off from following Tony because of what the non-supporters are saying, consider this: If Tony really is chosen by God and God wanted to choose someone to be a follower of Him through Tony, do you not have enough confidence in God to see his will be done regardless of what is said on here?

Why don't you let God and Tony fight this battle instead of coming on here and making Tony and his ministry look like such an unattractive ministry?

Please really give this some consideration. Right now things don't look too attractive and as a "mostly" outsider, I have to tell you ... they ain't getting any better.

[false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)]

When you learn what this world is, how it works, you automatically start getting miracles... what others will call miracles.

[forestbrain (forestbrain)]

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


You really don't need to say a five minute prayer to be saved.

[rattlesnake (rattlesnake)]

Do you think that people really need to quote a sinners prayer in order to be saved? I find that a lot of people would find it a lot more real to just call out to God from their own heart and they would know what they need to say.

Tony is not the only one who has written a sinner's prayer. A lot of groups, cults, churches etc. have their own version of a 'sinner's prayer'.

I just really believe that it is what is in your heart that really matters. I also don't think that you have to say it out loud or have it witnessed by others. It should be a very personal experience and it will be very real.

Sorry, I know this is off topic, but we have read an awful lot of sinner's prayers the past few days..

[rezleok (rezleok)]

Right on forestbrain. I had been crying out to God by myself for three days to show me the truth. When I got saved I said just 5 words to myself on Redondo Beach, CA, "Of course, Jesus IS the truth." Immediately I felt the Spirit of God enter my body and I knew beyond any doubt that I was saved. Hallelujah!

[safenowinspite (safenowinspite)]

rezeok, When I got saved I just answered a simple question. A girl asked me after a fire and my life was devestated and I had no hope, and I was so alone with no freinds, and I told her God was telling me He was alive, "Wouldnt you like Him to be there all the time?" All I could answer was YES!!...and the most dramatic instantanious change came over me. The room lit up and I literally felt Gods spirit come into me and fill me with such hope and peace I had never experienced before, and I knew God was with me. He never left me again.
Its amazing too how if we stay in contact with him and abide in Him ..He is able to do changes in us we can never do ourselves....from forgetting to ever smoke again,,,to cleaning up our thoughts and giving us revelation of Him and His love. And His love really does cast out all fear.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif
God is good all the time

[rezleok (rezleok)]

A big AMEN to all that you said safenow. It was a tangible experience I had too. There's just nothing like when you got saved, when you first realized that God is really there and Jesus Christ is (and always has been) the truth. I also thank God that he never leaves us nor forsakes us, as you said. There's been times in my Christian life that I have been down really low and He was always there to lift me back up. I thank God for His longsuffering and patience after we're saved when, as you mentioned, "He is able to do changes in us we could never do ourselves." He is able to keep us, if we just stay with Him by picking up our cross daily and trusting in Him only (not man). What a wonderful promise! He never fails us.

It's a shame Alamo treats people in the body of Christ the way He does. It's so contrary to the Word of God and the way Jesus treated His people when He was here. I have never read where Jesus molested little girls, beat children until they were bloody, used filthy language, lied to anyone about anything (including Satan, etc. On the contrary, He went around in His compassionate and merciful ways saving and healing people, and the only people He would blast were the scribes, pharisees and HYPOCRITES who would go around preaching righteousness but doing evil things (wonder who that could be? -lol). Again, Thank you for giving your testimony. I really enjoyed reading it.

[forestbrain (forestbrain)]

I gotta reply from Mr. George. Wow.
And what's up with that pervert "Sinnersprayer"? Can some please ban him from this board? He is saying filthy, blasphemous stuff that DOES NOT need to go through people's minds. Somebody, please BAN HIM!!!

[safenowinspite (safenowinspite)]

Thank you rezleok, I have always found God more loving and patient then people. And even when He had ever corrected me it was always in such love. He knows our hearts and our intents and deals with us thus. Such mercy I know cannot be gotten by man without God and such love, they are from His Holy Spirit alone, and for those who walk in His Spirit. Thank God for His mercy. forest, Ive been pretty much completely ignoring those who I know are posting filthy and intimidating posts. Just converse with those of us who are not. Pass right by them.
Carol Fryer