Past and present

[brd420311 (brd420311)]

From the past...

Hi everyone, some may remember me and some may not as I may remember u and I may not. I lived in the Alamo clut till I was 10 and my parents and us kids left when we found out about Tony and all his glory back in 86'. And to those that are still living there and hanging on to a pathetic cult life I just hope you realize that the belief of jesus and/or the lord is everywhere in the world without the molestation and corruption of old TA. But I degress....

I lived in Dyer the whole time I was there. My dad worked at the print shop (Gerald Achey) and was a gutarist at the resturaunt. My mom (Kathleen) basically took care of us (cooking/cleaning) as did all the women in the cult....thought is was a little sexist but whatever :P. I lived there, in Dyer, with my sister (Hannah) and my brother (Jeremy) and friends that I am tryin to remember. If anyone wants to help me find people that may remember me or spark my memory in anyway then just reply to this post and let's talk . Oh, my name....it's Josiah Achey....if u remember this name please reply. I do remember all the places in the cult (like the ridge, dyer, the churchs, the cafeteria, the school, the bastards mansion, etc...) I am just having a hard time recalling people as I was young when I left. I will say that the 2 people I remember most are Levi Willis and Jared B. If you two are reading this please reply as I will be watching this post frequently.

Well, I hope I don't get to many Bible quote replies from anyone in the cult cause I could really do without the useless reading u will bestow upon me and I will skim over it. And I also dont need any long "I am goin to hell" speeches from the cult either, save your strength for bowing to TA. One day u will see TA for who he truely is, I just hope u r not to old to live a TA free live before then.

Well, I hope to hear from some soon.....holla!

[starksk (starksk)]

Hey JoJo
This is Kimi Gamez, my parents were Oscar and Brenda. We were in the same class. Not sure if you remember or not but I remember you. Jared is on here. Give him time and he'll holla. I saw Levi a few years back but I still talk to Bobbi Jo who married his brother James. Ring any bells?? Well email me sometime .... spanish_kat@yahoo.com I prefer to talk off this board 'cause I can't handle all the scripture quoting either.

[double_j (double_j)]

JoJo,

What up?~ Sent an email to your sister...she has my personal email addy and contact info (Hanna) reach out to her to get my info. I live in Cali now, but it would be dope to talk to you. Damn..... Never thought we'd hook up again....CRaZy!!!!!

Jared

[holdol27 (holdol27)]

how cool is that! i remember my cousin carissa curry talking fondly of jojo!

[false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)]

The ten commandments revisited
2. Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto any graven images.
How do you make a "graven image" of Infinite Being? It is impossible. You can particularize an idea into form, but when you make an idea into form, you are the creator. So to bow down to what you have created and worship it as your creator is ridiculous. If you acknowledge what you have created as your source, then you become limited by that source. To do that is to deny your own being, to invalidate and hate that being for its inability. And so, if you invalidate your own being, you will be self-punished. "I will visit the iniquity of the third and fourth generations of them that hate me," which means that the results of the invalidations will persist as long as the invalidation. Or, in other words, the punishment of the sin will persist as long as people keep sinning. Obviously invalidationg your own being will bring about confusion and misery. In the Second Commandment we have the law, (thought is creative). The law is the law of righteousness (right thinking) which is the Truth. The law of iniquity (wrong thinking) is invalidationg the Truth. This Commandment illustrates that the Ten Commandments are not just ethical principles which you are supposed to practice, but are the laws of reality which you are practicing whether you like it or not. All reality consists of images graven out of Infinite Being by thought. It is obviously ridiculous to think the created reality is the source, and to think so frustrates satisfaction and definitely limits progress.

[mamacurry (mamacurry)]

Hey JoJo,
This is Carissa Curry. My parents were Bill and Dorothy. We were in the same class. I do remember you. When I heard that you and your sister Hannah got on here, I felt that I received the answer to a prayer I had prayed for. I remember the kindness and friendship you showed to me and others. I prayed I would hear from you someday. You can Email me at my parents, dorothy-curry@sbcglobal.net I hope to get on line soon. I'll try to send a picture of me and my family of six. If you can please send a picture to. Carissa

[forestbrain (forestbrain)]

Hi Carissa! umm..I don't know if people on the board know who I am yet, but you can ask your brother! How are you?

[helives (helives)]

debra copeland we all know who you are.

If you want to talk to the other kids that are grown up adults now - go to the kids board.

thanks
sue balsley

[forestbrain (forestbrain)]

ah, so you do. I just find this all VERY interesting. I didn't really know anybody, but it is my life history, part of it anyway. BTW, where IS the kids board?

(Message edited by forestbrain on November 14, 2005)

(Message edited by forestbrain on November 14, 2005)

[helives (helives)]

yes I think the kid's board is called "born and raised in the foundation."

I don't know if there are many in your age group that have been on this site. You may find some of your old friends. It was hard for all the kids to be ripped away from everything and everyone they knew and love


I'm sure you do find it interesting, you were just a little girl when lots of the beatings were going on.
However I think Sarah and Rebecca saw some of the beatings at the spec house along with your mom and dad.

I don't know what year you all left the foundation so you may have known about the multiple wife thing with Tony.
He married Sharon, then he married Lydia Willis a few years later, and then he kept going. He took as his wives Jeannie Orlando, Lizzy Gutierrez, Angel Streit plus more.

Some of the kids, who are now grown up, are still trying to deal with all the baggage that followed them when they left the foundation.

Some are so turned off from the Living God, thanks be to Tony and the way he showed the compassion of the Lord, that it is going to take a miracle to heal their hearts, minds and even their bodies.
It is hard to put oneself in someone elses shoes, however, if from the time you were little, and you were beaten bloody and were told that Thus saith the Lord, would you be inclined to want to have any fellowship with a lord that is so cruel to children?

Tony Alamo's destructive ways have followed these kids their entire lives. Lots of them have went on to be successful and happy in spite of all the chaos tony tried to cause. However there a still some that are still trying to find their way.

I think all the adults who have had their struggles after leaving the foundation understand these kids and want nothing more than for them to find their way.

Sue B

(Message edited by Helives on December 31, 2005)

[forestbrain (forestbrain)]

Well, goodbye.

(Message edited by forestbrain on November 15, 2005)

[ivy (ivy)]

Tony does not hide out. He is always out in public. He has no reason to hide. He is not abusing or molesting anyone.

[iasmann (iasmann)]

Yeah, but whose name is he using Harvey Cochran's?
Oh, that's right he already used that one. Is there anybody else over there in the hospital who he can declare a weasel and steal their name?

[helives (helives)]

Ivy
Tony did use Harvey Cochran's name, go check it out, his arrest in florida is a matter of public record

Then come back on this site and say Tony didn't hide out or use someone else's identity

[msweezell (msweezell)]

Harvey Chockran was lying in a bed helpless; the car accident that he and his wife were in was so serious the Jaws of Life had to be used to release them from under the dash board of the car where they were practically crushed to death. Harvey’s injuries were so acute he was critical and comatose. Tony declared that the accident was because old’ kind hearted Harvey was a weasel and God did that to him for his disobedience. Harvey would never be able to drive again so it only made sense for Tony to order certain “older brothers” go and visit Harvey, not to pray over him or visit the sick and afflicted or comfort his family but for one purpose and one purpose only and that was to physically steel Harvey’s driver’s license from his personal belongings while his family was out of the room. I know this as FACT. Tony at the time was on the run from federal agents who had a warrant for his immediate arrest. Tony was as happy as a pig in Poop when the mission was accomplished; he jumped for joy, it meant his freedom to roam and to go up and down the face of the earth. So Tony quickly disguised himself as the graying man, Harvey Chockran he had condemned only to justify steeling his identity to buy himself freedom from federal prison. The authorities did eventually arrest Tony and his false Identity was made public record. That is the express representation of The Lord working in Tony once again, Pathetic? Absolutely, ramble on, maybe one day you will catch on that God gave you a brain.

[ivy (ivy)]

Listen!! Did I say "Tony never hid"? NO! I didn't. I said, he is not hiding.

[ivy (ivy)]

I was answering "forest brain"... she asked 'where Tony was hiding' and I said he is not hiding.... who's rambling?

[iasmann (iasmann)]

So you do admit that Tony did hide out. Tony denies it and says he was operating out in the open in his own name. That he never hid. Are you calling Tony a liar?

[twopilgrims (twopilgrims)]

MSWEEZELL

YES A BRAIN, THATS WHAT I SAID , THE GIRLS AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE FOUNDATION MUST AND SHOULD NOW USE THERE LONG SLEEPING BRAIN.
WAKE UP WAKE UP SLEEPYHEADS.

[skeptik (skeptik)]

If he wasn't in hiding and wasn't on the run, why'd he need an alias and why'd it take the law a couple of years to fianlly get him? And why go on the run if he was in the right? Innocent people don't run.

[rattlesnake (rattlesnake)]

Amen to that!!!

[skeptik (skeptik)]

And one may also learn not to confuse following God's Word with arrogantly flouting the laws they find inconvenient.

I see it all the time, people doing all manner of outrageous things-often illegal-and claiming that was done in the service of a Higher Authority. I'd respect them more if they just came right out on national television and claimed that they considered themselves above the law; somehow, it is so much more honest than running.

Personally, I think if Tony Alamo wanted to draw attention to his case, if he thought his cause was so righteous, he should have surrendered to the authorities and simply pled his case for the record. Instead, he turns tail and runs, leaving us all to wonder what's up. If he's only serving God, why all the spin-control and secrecy? Why hide? I'd look so much more favorably on him if he just faced the charges like a man and took it from there.

[ivy (ivy)]

No I am not calling Tony a liar... I don't even know who Harvey is...I made a simple statement that is relating to this decade...

[twopilgrims (twopilgrims)]

well skeptik you do know that the bible says: whats done in secret shall be shouted from the rooftops.
one way or another its going to be out there.
There is no hiding place from God.
just like the song goes.

woe sinner man where you gona run to
run the the rocks the rocks they cant hide you
run to the moon the moon will turn to blood
woe sinner man where you gona run to on the judgement day.

[summer4ever (summer4ever)]

Here is an article about Tony using the name "Harvey Cochran." He was able to live a pretty open life, pretending to be other people.

Newspaper: Los Angeles Times
Article: Alamo's Life as a Fugitive Was Spent Out in the Open Religion: Untraceable cellular phones and taped radio shows helped the fundamentalist minister hold the reins of his church and businesses while federal agents tried to track him down.
Date: July 22, 1991

"Although hunted across the nation by federal agents, religious cult leader Tony Alamo lived an open, if not completely public, life before his capture this month in Florida...

"But it was Alamo's high-profile lifestyle and reliance on his followers that ultimately led to his capture and may result in the end of his Holy Alamo Christian Church. A task force of federal agents monitored the gathering in Tampa of Alamo followers from across the country and then ultimately followed them to him.

"At the end of his run, the flamboyant preacher seemed surprised. Handcuffed and sitting on the driveway outside his waterfront home, he looked up at the federal agents who had just arrested him and said: "How'd you guys find me?"

"Divine guidance," he was told.

"Controversy has followed Alamo since the early '70s when he and his wife, Susan, began taking busloads of young dropouts, drug addicts and drunks from the streets of Hollywood to a compound in Saugus, where they were treated to fire-and-brimstone admonitions that included Alamo's anti-government and anti-Catholic beliefs...

"But the growth was accompanied by allegations that children were abused in the communes, that Alamo's followers were brainwashed and forced to work for little pay, and that he lived luxuriously off the profits. Alamo received widespread attention when his wife died in 1982 and he predicted that she would be resurrected. He reportedly placed her embalmed body on display in an Arkansas commune for six months.

"In 1985, Alamo's church was stripped of its tax-exempt status after the Internal Revenue Service determined that it was a profit-making enterprise. Three years later, the preacher with a penchant for Western-style clothing disappeared as Los Angeles County authorities investigated the beating of an 11-year-old boy alleged to have occurred at the Saugus commune. Authorities said Alamo directed the beating via telephone from another location.

"Now, in the wake of his capture, federal authorities are trying to document the holdings of Alamo and his church, collect more than $7 million in back taxes, and retrace Alamo's trail as a fugitive.

"Fuchs, part of a 10-agent task force that tracked and captured Alamo, said investigators believe that Alamo settled in the Tampa Bay area almost immediately after fleeing California.

"Authorities said Alamo had a core group of followers that helped him elude capture. Prosecutors have described these followers as bodyguards-"Christian soldiers" ready to protect their pastor with weapons, if needed.

"They assisted him; they protected him," FBI Agent Donald Geisler testified this month in a Tampa courtroom where Alamo was seeking bail. Geisler said former followers of Alamo have told investigators that the group has access to automatic weapons and that "Mr. Alamo and his bodyguards should be considered armed and dangerous."

"The contention that Alamo's group is armed or violent angers church followers. They point out that numerous searches have never turned up weapons on church property.

Albert Krantz, 40, a gaunt, soft-spoken former drug addict who credits Alamo with saving him spiritually two decades ago, came to Tampa last year to work with Alamo on clothing designs. FBI agents identified him as an Alamo bodyguard.

"It is completely and utterly ridiculous," he said of the idea that a phalanx of Alamo soldiers is ready to commit violence to protect Alamo. "I don't think anyone would consider me a bodyguard."

"Ray Arauz, a Los Angeles follower of Alamo who the FBI said is also an Alamo bodyguard, scoffed at such a contention.

"I am nobody's bodyguard," said Arauz, 41. "I have my own family to watch out for. This just shows the government harassment that is going on here. The whole thing is very unfair."

"Aside from the dispute over bodyguards and weapons, it is apparent that Alamo-nearly blind from glaucoma and unable to drive-was routinely in the company of several followers while he was a fugitive.

"Alamo has remarried and has a 9-year-old stepdaughter. Federal agents said they believe that the family moved often from house to house in the Tampa area. They say they have documented that he moved from a house in Madeira Beach, near Tampa, earlier this year when a neighbor complained to police about the large number of people who stayed at the home and the late-night comings and goings of the entourage.

"Billy Johnson operates a private postal box store next to the Big Time Discount hardware store that authorities said Alamo-using the name Harvey Cochran-opened in Pinellas Park, across Old Tampa Bay from Alamo's rented house. Johnson said Alamo made several visits to the hardware store each week, always arriving in a van with four or five other men. Alamo always carried a cellular phone, Johnson said.

"They did no advertising; some days they didn't even open," said Johnson, who became suspicious of his neighbor. "It was like they were in business but they didn't care if they got any business."

"The store has been closed since the arrest, and church followers have begun removing its inventory.

"Investigators said Alamo's frequent moves of his household and his use of cellular phones-which are untraceable-mail drops and numerous aliases were the chief impediments to his capture.

"The FBI said Alamo made calls from Tampa using cellular phones registered in New Jersey. This allowed him to frequently call newspapers and a Nashville radio talk show hosted by his brother, Dan Hoffman, without fear of giving away his whereabouts.

"As an example of how he tried to prevent his mail from being traced, investigators said Alamo sent tapes to be broadcast on radio station WRFA-AM in nearby Largo to a post office box in New York. A follower would pick up the tapes, then remail them so that they arrived at the Florida radio station with New York postmarks.

"Investigators said they know of at least seven aliases used by Alamo while he was a fugitive.

"Known as Harvey Cochran at the hardware store, his name was G. Elmo Justine at the waterfront home he rented in Tampa. After Alamo was arrested, agents found a business card in his wallet from a restaurant called Wild Child's in Temple Terrace, northeast of Tampa. The card belonged to H. Colling, general manager of the restaurant.

"Federal agents went to the restaurant and learned that H. Colling was Alamo, who had orchestrated the opening of the restaurant two weeks earlier, making all the decisions right down to the design of the restaurant's logo and menus. The agents also learned that several of the restaurant's employees were followers of Alamo's church who had moved to the area in recent months to be near their pastor.

"One employee is Jennifer Colbeck, a 17-year-old waitress who was born in Saugus and lived in Alamo church communes until she moved to Tampa this year. She said she came with her husband, John, also an Alamo follower and a dishwasher at Wild Child's. Like other followers who would talk to the media in Tampa, she recited, seemingly by rote, a denunciation of the pursuit and capture of the preacher she called "Papa Tony" while growing up.

"Tony's been my pastor all of my life," she said. "He is the only preacher I know of. He preaches the gospel and some people don't like that. They know he is telling the truth and they just want to shut him up. It's unfair. He's done nothing wrong."

"Investigators believe that profits from the businesses started by Alamo and operated by his followers helped the fugitive preacher finance new ventures as well as avoid capture.

"Johnson, owner of the shop next to the hardware store, said Alamo had expressed interest in buying his postal box business but was arrested before serious negotiations began.

"Harvey-that's what I knew him as-told me he was looking for businesses to buy because he had a lot of people to put to work," Johnson said.

"Alamo's high-profile activities were unusual for a federal fugitive, authorities said. They concede that had he divorced himself from his church and its followers, he might still be free.

"He thumbed his nose at federal authorities," Assistant U. S. Atty. David Jennings said. "Not until the task force was put together did he see that he couldn't keep doing that."

"The federal task force was formed in May after authorities received information that numerous Alamo followers were flocking to Tampa, said Mike Blevins, chief deputy marshal in Fort Smith, Ark.

"We thought that the probability was good that these people were going there because he was using Tampa as a hiding place," Blevins said.

"The migration of followers to Tampa had in part been spurred by the seizures of numerous church properties in Arkansas and Tennessee to satisfy IRS tax liens. A lien has been placed against the property in Saugus, which has been boarded up and unused for several months.

"Other properties were seized to pay a $1.8-million court judgment won against Alamo by a family of former followers who claimed that the preacher had abused children, alienated family members and violated labor laws. That case prompted more criminal charges against Alamo when he called up a Fort Smith newspaper and allegedly threatened the life of the judge who heard the suit.

"But some followers of Alamo said their arrival in Tampa was coincidental to Alamo being there.

"Rick Tiner, an Alamo follower for 20 years, said he moved there without knowing that Alamo was nearby. "Other brothers of the church said it was a good area to get a new start," Tiner said. "And I had never been to Florida before. I didn't know Tony was here until after I got here."

"Federal authorities have dismissed such claims, derisively referring to the gathering of followers in Tampa as "miraculous." Prosecutor Jennings said the followers came because they are part of Alamo's "nationwide support group, . . . people who would abandon their lives to come to Tampa to harbor him."

"Blevins said task force agents located many of Alamo's known followers by checking applications for Florida driver's licenses.

"That started nearly two months of surveillance of the followers as the agents waited to be led to Alamo. The plan paid off July 3 when agents followed a church member from the Big Time Discount hardware store to the Tampa neighborhood of Palma Ceia where comfortable houses line a network of man-made canals.

"The man they followed pulled into a driveway on San Rafael Street, where behind a sweeping front lawn stood a ranch house with a red brick facade.

"When the man left, the agents stayed. They secretly watched the house for two more days until the morning of July 5, when an overweight man with an unkempt gray beard and thick, dark glasses stepped out the front door and picked the morning newspaper up off the driveway.

"That's our subject," one of the deputy marshals whispered into his radio, a low-key report that signaled the end of Tony Alamo's run.

"A few hours later, the task force moved in."

[fooled_no_more (fooled_no_more)]

Thank you summer4ever, for publishing that.

I must concede that I did not know alot of these things about Tony, as I became involved in 1992.

The more I read, the more grateful I am to God, for the discernment He blessed me with, and all the years He protected me from the treachery that is TA. As bad as I thought I and my husband had it, it dims in comparison to the abuse so many others were afflicted with, and remain to (be) to this very day.

I am so incredibly sorry to all of you for the years of pain (afflicted by TA). I wish I could've been a friend to you in some small way...to help you.

This just breaks my heart.

Deceit....how well Tony knows how to deceive and manipulate a situation to his liking. A master liar who has managed to convince even himself of his lies.

Pray, pray, pray...that is all I can do, but I do so hoping that one day, those who remain faithful at TA's side, will one day wake up and see TRUTH.

God bless you...all of you.

[theguests (theguests)]

Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton. Old times there are soon forgotten. Look away, look away, oh dixie land!

[false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)]

chapter
1. There was a Master come unto the earth, born in the holy land of Indiana, raised in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne.
2. The Master learned of this world in the public schools of Indiana, and he grew in his trade as a mechanic of automobiles.
3. But the Master had learnings from other lands and other schools, from other lives that he had lived. He remembered these, and remembering became wise and strong, so that others saw his strength and came to him for counsel.
4. The Master believed that he had power to help himself and all mankind, and as he believed so it was for him, so that others saw his power and came to him to be healed of their troubles and their many diseases.
5. The Master believed that it is well for any man to think upon himself as a son of God, and as he believed, so it was, and the shops and garages where he worked became crowded and jammed with those who sought his learning and his touch, and the streets outside with those who longed only that the shadow of his passing might fall upon them, and change their lives.
6. It came to pass, because of the crowds, that the several foremen and shop managers bid the Master leave his tools and go his way, for so tightly was he thronged that neither he nor other mechanics had room to work upon the automobiles.
7. So it was that he went into the countryside, and people following began to call him Messiah, and worker of miracles; and as they believed, it was so.
8. If a storm passed as he spoke, not a raindrop touched a listener's head; the last of the multitude heard his words as clearly as the first, no matter lightning nor thunder in the sky about. And always he spoke to them in parables.
9. And he said unto them, "within each of us lies the power of our consent to health and to sickness, to riches and to poverty, to freedom and to slavery. It is we who control these, and not another."
10. A mill-man spoke and said "easy words for you, Master, for you are guided as we are not, and need not toil as we toil. A man has to work for his living in this world."
11. The Master answered and said, "once there lived a village of creatures along the bottom of a great crystal river.
12. "The current of the river swept silently over them all-young and old, rich and poor, good and evil, the current going its own way, knowing only its own crystal self.
13. "Each creature in its own manner clung tightly to the twigs and rocks of the river bottom, for clinging was their way of life, and resisting the current what each had learned from birth.
14. "But one creature said at last, 'I am tired of clinging. Though I cannot see it with my eyes, I trust that the current knows where it is going. I shall let go, and let it take me where it will. Clinging, I shall die of boredom.'"
15. "The other creatures laughed and said, 'Fool! Let go, and that current you worship will throw you tumbled and smashed across the rocks, and you will die quicker than boredom!"
16. "But the one heeded them not, and taking a breath did let go, and at once was tumbled and smashed by the current across the rocks.
17. "Yet in time, as the creature refused to cling again, the current lifted him free from the bottom, and he was bruised and hurt no more.
18. "And the creatures dowstream, to whom he was a stranger, cried, 'See a miracle! A creature like ourselves, yet he flies! See the Messiah, come to save us all!"
19. "And the one carried in the current said, 'I am no more Mesiah than you. The river delights to lift us free, if only we dare let go. Our true work is this voyage, this adventure."
20. "But they cried the more, 'Saviour!' all the while clinging to the rocks, and when they looked again he was gone, and they were left alone making legends of a Saviour."
21. And it came to pass when he saw that the multitude thronged him the more day on day, tighter and closer and fiercer than ever they had, when he saw that they pressed him to heal them without rest, and feed them always with his miracles, to learn for them and to live their lives, he went alone that day unto a hilltop apart, and there he prayed.
22. And he said in his heart, Infinite Radiant Is, if it be thy will, let this cup pass from me, let me lay aside this impossible task. I cannot live the life of one other soul, yet ten thousand cry to me for life. I'm sorry I allowed it all to happen. If it be thy will, let me go back to my engines and my tools and let me live as other men.
23. And a voice spoke to him on the hilltop, a voice neither male nor female, loud nor soft, a voice infinitely kind. And the voice said unto him, "Not my will, but thine be done. For what is thy will is mine for thee. Go thy way as other men, and be thou happy on the earth."
24. And hearing, the Master was glad, and gave thanks and came down from the hilltop humming a little mechanic's song. And when the throng pressed him with its woes, beseeching him to heal for it and learn for it and feed it nonstop from his understanding and to entertain it with his wonders, he smiled upon the multitude and said pleasantly unto them, "I quit."
25. For a moment the multitude was stricken dumb with astonishment.
26. And he said unto them, "If a man told God that he wanted most of all to help the suffering world, no matter the price to himself, and God answered and told him what he must do, should the man do as he is told?"
27. "Of course, Master!" cried the many. "It should be pleasure for him to suffer the tortures of hell itself, should God ask it!"
28. "No matter what those tortures, nor how difficult the task?"
29. "Honor to be hanged, glory to be nailed to a tree and burned, if so be that God has asked," said they.
30. "And what would you do," the Master said unto the multitude, "if God spoke directly to your face and said, 'I COMMAND THAT YOU BE HAPPY IN THE WORLD, AS LONG AS YOU LIVE.' what would you do then?"
31. And the multitude was silent, not a voice, not a sound was heard upon the hillsides, across the valleys where they stood.
32. And the Master said unto the silence, "In the path of our happiness shall we find the learning for which we have chosen this lifetime. So it is that I have learned this day, and choose to leave you now to walk your own path, as you please."
33. And he went his way through the crowds and left them, and he returned to the everyday world of men and machines.


wow just think how many other masters there are but we dont see them because of our busy lives

[hbananna (hbananna)]

Hey JoJo,

I remember you! Hiding stuff from our parents... laughing 'till we pi$$ed ourselves... scaring the $hit out of each other...

Good times...Good times...

Sis

PS - I tried to reach you yesterday to wish you Happy Turkey Day but no answer..new girl? You better spill it when we hook up. Oh, and call MOM!

[havebrainwilltravel (havebrainwilltravel)]

Ivy-
To prove that Tony isn't hiding, why don't you give out his address? That way, since everything is hunky dory over at his place, a few of his "ex-wives" can pay him a Merry Christmas visit? I'm sure he'd really like that. We could tell him how bad we miss him and how wrong we were for leaving.
Just give us his address and phone number so we can be on our Merry, Merry ways.

[windycity (windycity)]

Here let me answer for the little gal... Tony's address is PO BOX 398, ALMA, AR. 72921 Now write him and ask for his phone number.

[false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)]

Here let me pretend that im a gal... Tonys having a party and im invited. No i wont give you his #

[jules11468 (jules11468)]

Tony lives in a box? Wow, he has lowered his standards now hasn't he!

[false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)]

so where did you live on the ridge julie i cant quite place you
EO

[false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)]

or is that julie levy? im getting levy and armstrong confused

[jewels81475 (jewels81475)]

Julie Levy is Becca's sister, that's Jules11468, Julie Armstrong (jewels81475)-I never actually lived on the ridge, we never actually asked Tony if we could move into the foundation, but I attended the school for two years (part of 3rd and 4th grades,1983,1984) and my parents worked on the ridge and we lived in a rental property in alma owned by Tony. I can't place you either, how old are you? Well hope I helped w/the confusion.

[helives (helives)]

hey jojo and Hbanana it is great to see your names on this board. Tell your mom hi for me

sue b

[rezleok (rezleok)]

lololol.......good rebound eric. probably much too subtle for wind to catch