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twopilgrims (twopilgrims)
11-20-2005, 09:03 PM
<font color="aa00aa"> It must be that TA pulled the plugs on the computers because there hasnt been posting done from them since sinner stopped posting..
In that case I have a bunch of pictures from the 1st reunion and a bunch from Arkansas if anyone wants to see some of the brothers and sisters now that we've aged a bit...... http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif if you do I can send you the link or i can just email them ..
connie</font>
beccasue1975 (beccasue1975)
11-21-2005, 04:51 AM
CONNIE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM... LINK ME PLEASE. BECCASUE1975@AOL.COM
twopilgrims (twopilgrims)
11-21-2005, 05:52 AM
Ok Ive got lots that Im downloading now.
when there finished i will send..
connie
summer4ever (summer4ever)
11-21-2005, 07:06 AM
Connie,
I would love to see the pics as well http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif
My email address: jfryer4@cox.net
Thanks,
Jody
marcel (marcel)
11-21-2005, 10:01 AM
Hello everyone
I just made quickly this morning a web page with some pictures for the fun.
Just go to :
http://photosfoundation.neuf.fr/
If you have some you pictures too that you want for everyone to see them, just send them to me Marcel77@free.fr and I will put them on that site (put names if you can remember them ?)
The Lord bless you
Marcel
safenowinspite (safenowinspite)
11-21-2005, 01:39 PM
Thanks, great pictures. I have some but they are not on the computor. Jody can show me how to do that at christmas time...lol. She may already have the ones I had though. Funny, you look at them and recognize them but it seems so far away. Guess thats a good thing.
marcel (marcel)
11-21-2005, 01:53 PM
You need a scanner and you scan your old pictures (format jpeg), then you can send me by email the one you want I put on line.
If it is not your will, I will not put names on pictures.
Who are you by the way safenowinspite ? With all the nicknames I forgot who is who if I ever knew it ?
neasie (neasie)
11-21-2005, 02:57 PM
Connie
Please link me p0g0sgirl@yahoo.com
By the way, which Connie are you?
Neasie(Denise)
marcel (marcel)
11-21-2005, 03:02 PM
Connie, why you don't send me your pictures from "the 1st reunion and a bunch from Arkansas" so I can put them on my website for anyone to see them ?
Marcel marcel77@free.fr
jewels81475 (jewels81475)
11-22-2005, 03:34 AM
I would like to see some pics..jewels81475@yahoo.com
Jody-are you coming here for Christmas, or is your mom going there? If your coming here get ahold of me i'd like to see you!
safenowinspite (safenowinspite)
11-22-2005, 02:57 PM
Connie you put a beautiful one of my grandbaby with Mona, or the Boss as I referr to him as...lol so many neat pics.
smitty (smitty)
11-23-2005, 01:24 AM
Connie: Please e-mail the pics to me as well. I think I lost the ones you sent a few years ago
thomas.v.smith@netscape.com
twopilgrims (twopilgrims)
11-23-2005, 04:13 AM
<font color="0077aa"><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica"><font size="+1">HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE
CONNIE & BARRY</font></font></font>
twopilgrims (twopilgrims)
11-23-2005, 04:15 AM
CAROL TELL MONA HELLO FOR ME.. DOES SHE HAVE EMAIL? I COULD SEND HER THE PICTURES.
windycity (windycity)
11-23-2005, 11:32 PM
hmmmmmm...we are not backsliders but we condone adultery and fornication... HOW IS IT THAT MONA COLE HAS CAROL FRYER'S GRANDSON????? Oh I fogot.. when you all became reprobate you started your own religion...
theguests (theguests)
11-24-2005, 01:24 AM
Mary had a little lamb it's fleece was white as snow and everywhere that Mary went, the lamb was sure to go.
wilma (wilma)
11-24-2005, 01:32 AM
Windycity,
How is it that Sharon Krooph, Lizzy Guitierrez, and Lydia Willis all CURRENTLY live together with TONY ALAMO and have ALL had babies by Tony Alamo since 1991????????? How do you in your warped version of Christianity spin that?? Is it fornication? Adultery? Polygamy? Statutory rape?? We all know that Lizzy did not want to become Alamo's "wife". She was threatened by Alamo that she and her family would burn in hell if they didn't comply with Alamo's vision. Please enlighten us.
Rather than avoiding the question and attacking someone, could you please answer that simple question. After all, this message board is about setting the record straight about cult leaders such as Alamo.
Thanks,
Susie G
summer4ever (summer4ever)
11-24-2005, 02:59 AM
Windycity,
Out of total curiosity, how would you know that Mona isn't married to my brother? I don't believe it was discussed on this site. Why???
I don't believe anyone is claiming to be perfect on this website. I definitely know I have made my share of mistakes, and will most definitely make more in my short time on this earth.
You know what I said about Tony is true. You do know it. Attacking others will not change the truth.
Jody
holdol27 (holdol27)
11-24-2005, 03:18 AM
i'm a backslider! yes! hallelujah! lolololol
twopilgrims (twopilgrims)
11-24-2005, 03:37 AM
Fornication and adultery is wrong, as are beatings. The only ones condoning it are the people from the foundation. And dont lump US all together . We havent started another religion together like the people in the foundation have. you are the ones doing the condoning of the sinful lifestyles that are being lived there. What we do now with our lives , we do separately. I dont know that Mona isnt married and if she isnt thats something she will deal with. No one is condoning it. What hypocrites you are. Here is a place where mothers and fathers are giving there young 12 yr olds to marry. And where the "pastor" is taking all the pretty young girls for himself. If that dosnt tell you something , nothing will, because your all acting brain dead. According to the reports of those who were there , there are beatings and a great deal of fornication going on. And as far as "us" starting a "new" religion. Lets look at it more closely. Who changed the word of God? Is wasnt "US" The Bible I read still has the FATHER,SON, AND HOLY GHOST in it.
Granny used to say point the finger at someone and there is 3 fingers pointing back at you.
skeptik (skeptik)
11-24-2005, 04:06 AM
methinks theguests is deranged.
helives (helives)
11-24-2005, 06:14 AM
WindyCity
Start our own religion? Most of the people on this board I haven't talked to since I left the foundation in 1989.
My posts are true facts!
If you live in the foundation, or are living outside the foundation, but still defend tony alamo, then you are the one who has a self appointed world pastor who has given the command to have children beaten bloody and has taken several wives, even under age virgin daughters of members, who tony tells them that god is telling tony to take them as his wife, and if they don't comply then they will burn in hell. (according to tony alamo)
So don't group us together, I am an individual who found out about this posting site and posted facts about tony alamo.
As far as you saying I am backslidden, I will respond by saying that you don't know me!
You attack people who have posted on this board. They have told about hideous incidents that have happened to them at the hands of tony alamo. They also have had the courage to sign their names.
What about you, windycity, are you going to sign your name?
(Message edited by helives on November 24, 2005)
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-24-2005, 07:28 AM
hey windycity what you need to do is have a bible bar-BQ and then you can start your own religion to
and for your information its fun to believe your own lies instead of some one elses like t&a's
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-24-2005, 07:32 AM
yeah thats right i said burn your bible and then the next time you pick it up to read it, it makes a whole lot more sense, and believe me you wont offend god, god would have to be quite the homo to get offended over anything your puny brain could come up with
windycity (windycity)
11-24-2005, 02:54 PM
Oh my how we all got so riled up.... Miss Fry, I will address you first. Well, there is a certain friend of mine who happens to live in Arkansas, and who is NOT A FRIEND of you. And YOUR BROTHER IS NOT MARRIED TO MONA COLE! Yet they had a baby together???? At least that is what Carol said on a previous post... oh and it a well known thing in Ft. Smith area. You know how you backsliders love to blab....so blame one of them for letting out your dirty little secret.
Wilma, Please don't take it upon yourself to tell me what I do and do not know. I know you think that you are the almighty wilma but believe me you don't know everything.
Holly, Let's see... what do you call yourself....Oh that is right "HOLLY HOE". Now folks that is not me name calling. She calls herself "hoe". That is probably the most honest thing she can say about herself.
false prophet,
Are you serious?? You are one of the most deranged,reprobates on this board. You are blasphemous and not worth wasting my time.
To all,
Being that YOU do condone this Eric Ondrisek, and Mona Cole etc.. you are saying that it is okay to do the things that God explictly forbids. Now you sit here on this message board and act like you are one big happy family with your exchange of pictures and "kissing up" to eachother. Meanwhile while you were in the church you couldn't stop backbiting eachother etc. You try to make eachother "feel comforted" about your decisions to become "Judas" well that was the choice you made folks. You all remind me of the people in the times of Noah. You started to help work on the Ark, but you thought God was not going to send the rain and you were just wasting all your important time helping with the Ark.... so you went on with your little lives and ...after time when you all got nice and comfy... OH NO!!! HERE COMES THE FLOOD/WRATH OF GOD. YUP!! YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
wilma (wilma)
11-24-2005, 03:05 PM
Windycity,
How is it that you could be part of the Alamo "church" and not know the following information?.........That Sharon Krooph, Lizzy Guitierrez, and Lydia Willis all CURRENTLY live together with TONY ALAMO and have ALL had babies by Tony Alamo since 1991????????? How do you in your warped version of Christianity spin that?? Is it fornication? Adultery? Polygamy? Statutory rape?? We all know that Lizzy did not want to become Alamo's "wife". She was threatened by Alamo that she and her family would burn in hell if they didn't comply with Alamo's vision. Please enlighten us.
OR IS IT RATHER THAT YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO IGNORE AND AVOID ANSWERING???
hmmmmmm,
Susie G
windycity (windycity)
11-24-2005, 03:10 PM
You see Wilma, I am not part of the "foundation". I have been affiliated with it in the past...but like I said you assume I know this or that and I know no such thing. I know that my experiences at times I was there were good. I am not into telling all my business like you folks. I just want you to know that people think you are nuts. People who have not set one foot in the church think you all are watching too much tv
twopilgrims (twopilgrims)
11-24-2005, 03:38 PM
<font color="0000ff">
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
</font><font color="000000"> Windy City, Can that be said of the present alamo foundation?
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Windycity, Read the New Testament, the world wont be destroyed by a flood this time.
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day
Windycity, Can the testimony of the foundation be believed in that day?
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power
That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
WindyCity, How can that pray be prayed for those who seem far removed from the truth?
Alot has been said on this board and it has opened MY eyes as to how far removed the people in the foundation have become. Maybe there are some still in there that want to come out, and dont know what to do. They are dying spiritually. I will keep praying for those people. I dont see the need to keep on posting.
STILETTO HAS LEFT THE BUILDING</font>
safenowinspite (safenowinspite)
11-24-2005, 03:47 PM
Well Windy....all I said was that there was a picture of Mona with my grandbaby. And you got all that out of it...wow. Assumptions are lies you know. Dont say everyone condones one thing because they dont have a six foot board to beat little children bloody with. Tony has done it many many times with underage girls and your worried about Mona. Tony has taken them against their will and intimidated the whole church into giving him what his filthy mind wants, and your worried about Mona. That is what I really call a smokescreen....lol. Sorry that didnt ruffle my feathers....just showed me what condition your in while your straining at a knat and swallowing that camel. Hugs to you for the Holidays, I think you need it. Peace.
Carol Fryer
helives (helives)
11-24-2005, 06:15 PM
WindyCity
You sure know how to name call, just like Tony. One thing he really knew how to do was to call people names and mock them.
Just because I post on this board doesn't mean I condone all that is posted here.
This board is called factnet, a place to post facts about Tony Alamo! He who tries to make the world believe he is the "world pastor".
His public image and words appear to be holy, that is the exact image he is trying to portray. However his private life is filled with cursing, polygamy,pedofile, raping and beating children bloody.
You must have not been trusted at all if you didn't know about all of tony's wives! I lived outside the foundation and Tony's own lips told me about Jeanne, Lizzy, Angel, Lydia and sharon being his wives!
The beatings - I witnessed them with my own eyes!
So call all the names that you want, they are only a smokescreen. It doesn't change the facts about Tony Alamo and his evil ways.
The more smokescreens and name calling you do, the more I will post the facts about that perverted person you try to defend.
Tony is making a big mistake by not letting you back into the foundation. After all you are truly one of his big time supporters.
Consider this: Maybe God allowed you to be removed from that place so He could open your eyes to His personality.
He is also a God of mercy, love, peace and joy unspeakable. He blesses the righteous - the bible doesn't say he blesses the foundation people, it says He blesses the righteous.
Now that you are not part of the foundation, does the Lord answer your prayers? I would say, "Yes" if you are calling upon Him in truth. He is faithful to His word, He said to call upon Him and He will hear and He will answer.
Take care and I am praying for you. I lived outside the foundation for years being a Tony Alamo supporter, always trying to go back to the foundation, however the Lord always closed the door. It took awhile for the Lord open my heart and shine the light inside regarding Tony and his evil ways.
I thank God that He is full of mercy and of great power to keep that which I have committed unto Him.
summer4ever (summer4ever)
11-24-2005, 07:30 PM
windycity,
I am so glad you addressed me first. I feel sooo special.
Just because someone acknowledges and loves their grandbaby does not mean they condone fornication. How do you jump to that conclusion?
You are using rumors to judge people. Last I knew, God doesn't judge people by rumors that people say. Hmm.
Please be realistic! And please actually read the posts before jumping to conclusions.
I can only hope you realize how strange and twisted you are actually sounding.
I have friends that have read this board as well. We probably all do. And you know what, they think you are not taking your medications like you should be. But that doesn't matter, does it?
You and I both know the truth. Yes, you do know.
It wasn't TV. It wasn't Oprah. It was the Alamo Foundation. And I survived what happened to me, despite the odds.
Changing your screen name does not change who you are...
What is all this about us getting a life? You are chatting on this board as well. Are you saying you don't have a life?
Anyway, I am off to a friend's house for a wonderful turkey dinner, to enjoy my friends' company, and to watch some football. Hopefully, the Drew and the boys can find a way to beat the Broncos http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif
I wish you the best...
Jody a.k.a. Miss Fry http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-25-2005, 12:07 AM
actually its quite fun to see how you all take life so seriously. who cares that tony alamo is molesting people. the bible clearly states that those wasters of energy dig a ditch for themselves. and if the blind lead the blind then they both will jump into the ditch, off a cliff, etc. the funniest thing to me is how your wasting this precious gift called life following some lame ideology that doesnt ever produce anything positive. f+ck your god and your ideology that only brings death. thats right i live my life exactly how i want to and i have found that automatically brings a happy state of being. your a miserable wretch and id rather burn in hell for all eternity, screaming and retching in agony, than hang out with you or your graven image TA
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-25-2005, 12:11 AM
burning burning for all eternity
burning burning so much fun to me
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-25-2005, 01:02 AM
or perhaps its easy to defend someone until all the perversions are happening to you. then your like all us other unfortunate humans that dont know how to handle such crazy behavior. yeah thats right i dont know what to think about my sister alys ondrisek being married to a 70 year old man. and as soon as people are talking about it she gets sent back home. oh she was just visiting the holy man and his monstrous family. tony alamo is a little b-i-che that screams when she doesnt get her way. and everyone around her starts to try to make things back to what they were before she started her tantrum. yeah this is erik ondrisek yeah i was beaten at 6 years old and it really shifted me. im not afraid of the big bad wolf anymore. because its more of an act than a real threat. just wait till you see
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-25-2005, 01:05 AM
F U you little worm windycity. my god can kick your gods buttocks. lolhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/proud.gif
jewels81475 (jewels81475)
11-25-2005, 04:40 AM
eric, how old are you now? I'm just trying to figure out if I know you or not?
jewels81475 (jewels81475)
11-25-2005, 04:43 AM
I thought you were Justin Miller.
windycity (windycity)
11-25-2005, 07:50 PM
justin miller does not want to talk to you. get over it. i told you he is in florida. believe me. but he is not somewhere where you can talk to him.
safenowinspite (safenowinspite)
11-25-2005, 09:11 PM
Someone still needs a hug....lol
holdol27 (holdol27)
11-26-2005, 04:01 AM
lololol
theguests (theguests)
11-26-2005, 04:53 AM
Shine on, shine on harvest moon on me.
havebrainwilltravel (havebrainwilltravel)
11-26-2005, 07:08 PM
Hmm-even the great brain doesn't get this convo
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-26-2005, 09:29 PM
ten commandments revisited
VIII. THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.
You are well aware by now that by the use of affirmations, by improving the quality of your thoughts, and by having a prosperity consciousness, you will aquire anything you need or want. Stealing is primarily motivated by the need to acquire something not otherwise obtainable. Since you now have all the means of acquisition you will ever need, there is no need to steal. If you take another person's possessions, you are invalidating that you are Infinite Being. So, therefore, stealing comes from breaking the First Commandment. To take another person's possession or steal from them is to steal from yourself (i.e. if you are stealing from your own power, your own authority, your own happiness, and your own Divine Identity) then don't be surprised if people take your possessions to symbolize what you are doing to yourself. So if you are stealing from yourself, don't be surprized if other people help you and rip you off. If a person did take a possession of yours and you were not stealing from yourself, then you would consider it to be a gift and it would come back to you multiplied. The thief would be activating the spending law for you!
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-26-2005, 09:46 PM
ten commandments revisited
VII. THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY
The superficial definition of adultery is sleeping with a guy's wife or a woman's husband without their permission. Adultery really means the adulteration of your own thoughts. If you adulterate the First Commandment, then all you can do is commit adultery. As long as you honor yourself as God you are not adulterating the truth and then everything is OK. Because if you are God, you can decide that you are married today and that you are not married tonight ( so you could sleep with another woman) and then you could decide you are married again tomorrow. If you are a woman, you can sleep with your husband last night, go out today and be a hooker and when you are through hooking, you can go back and be married again if you want to. If you are God, you have the right to do that. However, the other people are Gods also and when you mess around with other gods like this the consequences can be very heavy.
Adultery in human relations has to do with keeping agreements; and so, since you are the Pope, you have the power to give yourself absolution and the power to change agreements. Obviously, if you have the power to make agreements and you have the power to change agreements, you have total absolute power over your agreements. You can do anything you want with them. Things work out between two people however they decide it will work out. If they are two people who keep breaking agreements, then they are two people who keep their agreement to break their agreements.
In regard to sex, God makes love to everybody. Therefore, one person is as good as another. If a person has a spirit, a mind, and a body they are practicing the truth ultimately and all differences are ultimately a matter of personal opinion and taste. Of course, personal taste is OK. It has always been our personal policy to not seduce or be seduced by individuals who are married or in heavy relationships. With us this policy is based upon respect for simplicity and their divine power.
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-26-2005, 09:56 PM
ten commandments revisited
IX. THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS.
The Bible implies that God cannot lie because everything He says becomes true. By applying the First Commandment, the same is true of you. You cannot lie because everything you say is true, as long as you believe it to be true and desire to manifest it. And so there is no such thing as false witness. So if you say something to one person about another and if the person you say it to believes you, then it is true for that person and he creates it for himself. But even though it is true for him it may not be true for the person you told it about. If it is not true about the person you told it about, then there is no lie there.... so where is the lie? The only lie is in believing there is a lie, that there can be such a thing as a lie. The person who believes the lie has to live with it, not the person it was told about. The way I apply this practically is to not believe anything anyone tells me unless it is for the highest good of myself and everyone concerned.
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
11-26-2005, 10:00 PM
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gifOH MY!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/crazy.gif
christophr19 (christophr19)
12-04-2005, 07:12 AM
EO....I can't get enough of your posts!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif
I think it is funny that some people don't get your sense of humor and dry wit. I soo get it!
clearly they are taking themselves too literally, seriously, and need to stop trying to make God do their will.
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 09:16 AM
i know you all have been waiting for #6 so here goes
ten commandments revisited
VI. THOU SHALT NOT KILL
It is impossible to kill. From the standpoint of murderers and victims, you have to have victims in order to have murderers. So if the victim is a person who desires to be killed, then the murderer is victimized by the victim. The murderer is the servant of the victim. On a higher plane there is no such thing as death, because your physical body goes into the earth and it becomes fertilizer, dertilizer nourishes the apple tree and somebody comes along and eats the apples. The apples become a body and the cycle continues forever.
To kill means to deprive of existence something that wants to exist. If you are destroying something that wants to be destroyed, you are giving life to the desire to be destroyed. And you realize, ultimately, that the thing that is doing the killing is Infinite Being and Infinite Being is not killed and cannot be killed.
The superficial reality of this Commandment is that, if you destroy other people's bodies, then you are asking for your own body to be destroyed.
(he that lives by the sword dies by the sword) The reason people kill other people is because of their own death urge. They are symbolically asking somebody to kill them. The Commandment means that to destroy human flesh will ultimately create the destruction of your own.
You can take this principle to its extreme. When you breathe, you inhale microorganisms that may get killed; if you are against killing to the extent that you stop breathing to save the microorganisms, then probably your existence won't be very meaningful. This Commandment has meaning only on an absolute level of the unity of Being: it is impossible for Spirit to destroy itself. The interpretation of this in regard to particular forms is totally arbitrary. when you eat plants and animals you are killing those forms.
Death is only possible in the sense that you can create or destroy particular forms. But you can't destroy your ability to recreate your form, or other forms, then nothing is gone further than a thought away! To indulge in the thought that you can kill something keeps you from recreating it.
If you take the Commandment literally, then God is a murderer because he kills everybody. However, God really is not interested in destroying your physical body. If your physical body gets destroyed, it is your own fault. The idea that death is inevitable has killed more people than all other causes combined. This belief has no practical value if you are interested in the aliveness of your mind, spirit and body. The belief that death is inevitable is passing away like other universally held beliefs. (Example: that the world was flat and the center of the solar system.)
On the other hand, believing in physical immortality (or that death is NOT inevitable) can in no way harm you, if it is inevitable. If you are going to die anyway, caused by some force outside your control, it doesn't matter what you believe.
The practical value of the Commandment is to teach us not to indulge in a mortal mentality. There is a lot more to be said about this Commandment, but since you are God, you can figure it out yourself.
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 09:17 AM
i know you all have been waiting for #6 so here goes
ten commandments revisited
VI. THOU SHALT NOT KILL
It is impossible to kill. From the standpoint of murderers and victims, you have to have victims in order to have murderers. So if the victim is a person who desires to be killed, then the murderer is victimized by the victim. The murderer is the servant of the victim. On a higher plane there is no such thing as death, because your physical body goes into the earth and it becomes fertilizer, fertilizer nourishes the apple tree and somebody comes along and eats the apples. The apples become a body and the cycle continues forever.
To kill means to deprive of existence something that wants to exist. If you are destroying something that wants to be destroyed, you are giving life to the desire to be destroyed. And you realize, ultimately, that the thing that is doing the killing is Infinite Being and Infinite Being is not killed and cannot be killed.
The superficial reality of this Commandment is that, if you destroy other people's bodies, then you are asking for your own body to be destroyed.
(he that lives by the sword dies by the sword) The reason people kill other people is because of their own death urge. They are symbolically asking somebody to kill them. The Commandment means that to destroy human flesh will ultimately create the destruction of your own.
You can take this principle to its extreme. When you breathe, you inhale microorganisms that may get killed; if you are against killing to the extent that you stop breathing to save the microorganisms, then probably your existence won't be very meaningful. This Commandment has meaning only on an absolute level of the unity of Being: it is impossible for Spirit to destroy itself. The interpretation of this in regard to particular forms is totally arbitrary. when you eat plants and animals you are killing those forms.
Death is only possible in the sense that you can create or destroy particular forms. But you can't destroy your ability to recreate your form, or other forms, then nothing is gone further than a thought away! To indulge in the thought that you can kill something keeps you from recreating it.
If you take the Commandment literally, then God is a murderer because he kills everybody. However, God really is not interested in destroying your physical body. If your physical body gets destroyed, it is your own fault. The idea that death is inevitable has killed more people than all other causes combined. This belief has no practical value if you are interested in the aliveness of your mind, spirit and body. The belief that death is inevitable is passing away like other universally held beliefs. (Example: that the world was flat and the center of the solar system.)
On the other hand, believing in physical immortality (or that death is NOT inevitable) can in no way harm you, if it is inevitable. If you are going to die anyway, caused by some force outside your control, it doesn't matter what you believe.
The practical value of the Commandment is to teach us not to indulge in a mortal mentality. There is a lot more to be said about this Commandment, but since you are God, you can figure it out yourself.
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 09:21 AM
so much fun
yay
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 09:22 AM
i just love being alive
what a gift
yippee
horay
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 09:29 AM
check out this new idea
if you count backwards when your birthday comes around you actually activate youthing in your own body.
the only reason you get old is because the universal belief that you have to.
did you know that a 50 year old woman can get pregnant and create a bran new baby.
if your body can create youth for someone else then why not yourself.
did you know that your cells replenish every 11months. so you are never more than 11 months old. because of your belief your body creates new old cells. your old wrinkles r only eleven months old. go figure
i cant wait to be a kid again
yippee
christophr19 (christophr19)
01-07-2006, 09:32 AM
the only thing I have is not a thing at all.
the only thing I own has no monetary value.
What is it??
It is the only thing I was born with, and will be the only thing I take with me when I pass on.
All the wealth in the world cannot buy it back if I have given it away, but it is always free.
What is it??
It is my choice.
I choose to live, to die, to love, to hate, to hurt, to heal, to create or destroy.
Thank you for this greatest gift and largest handicap.
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 09:34 AM
remember a lie told often enough becomes the truth. so start telling everyone that your younger than you are and it will be true
(example when somebody was blind and came to jesus to be healed jesus would lie to them and tell them that they werent blind and they would believe it and there belief made them whole because he had enough energy to make that lie the truth) since we arnt nearly as energetic as he was we have to continue the lie for awhile but believe me it becomes true.
horay for creative liars
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 09:38 AM
what up homie
icu
false_prophet_detecter (false_prophet_detecter)
01-07-2006, 07:03 PM
its kinda like the good witch and bad witch in the wizard of oz
jc is the good witch
tony (satan) is the bad witch
summer4ever (summer4ever)
01-08-2006, 07:01 PM
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Article: Stepdaughter Testifies About Rape by Alamo
Newspaper: Los Angeles Times
Date: 1993, April 28
"Evangelist Tony Alamo's stepdaughter testified Tuesday that he raped her, and a former wife said he beat and sexually assaulted her, but a federal magistrate said that was not enough to keep Alamo behind bars pending trial on tax evasion charges and set bail at $50,000.
In an extraordinary hearing that lasted well into the night in U. S. District Court in Los Angeles, Alamo's stepdaughter made public for the first time her claim that he raped her in 1966, when she was a teen-ager.
The former wife testified that Alamo broke her nose in a fit of rage and routinely beat her and forced her into sex in 1986, when they were married.
Both women also testified that they feared Alamo still.
U. S. Magistrate Kirtland L. Mahlum ruled, however, that there was no evidence linking their unproven allegations to the prospect Alamo might do the women harm if he is released on bail while he awaits trial in Tennessee on the tax charges. Without that evidence, Mahlum said, he had to set bail-although he added that he had serious reservations about doing so.
Alamo's lawyer, Jeffrey A. Dickstein, said he expects to post the $50,000 bail in a few days, adding, "We're going to win this tax case."
Alamo, 58, breathed a sigh of relief at Mahlum's ruling. Dressed in jail-issue blues, he rarely looked at either woman during their testimony.
Alamo, who for years has had a running battle with the Internal Revenue Service, was indicted April 19 in federal court in Memphis, Tenn., on one felony count of filing a false income tax return for 1985 and on three misdemeanor counts, alleging that he failed to file returns for 1986, 1987 and 1988.
If convicted, Alamo, a former country singer whose real name is Bernie LaZar Hoffman, could draw up to eight years behind bars.
Alamo and one of his wives, Susan Alamo, built a large religious following during the 1970s and 1980s. Church-owned businesses, relying on the labor of their followers, produced expensive, rhinestone-studded denim jackets and other clothing.
The IRS stripped the Tony and Susan Alamo Foundation of its tax-exempt status in 1985 and has been trying to collect back taxes ever since.
Alamo was arrested Friday while appearing in San Fernando Superior Court in an unrelated felony child-abuse case in which he had earlier been released on bail. He has been in jail since, and federal prosecutors sought at the hearing Tuesday to keep him behind bars pending the federal trial later this year in Memphis.
Susan Alamo's daughter, Christhiaon Coie, 42, testified that her stepfather raped her in 1966, when she was 16. She had not seen him since leaving his house in 1971, she said.
In recent years, Coie said, she had been helping the IRS to investigate him and suspected he knew of her help."
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