Apparently the exmembers won the argument

[havebrainwilltravel]

Judging by the names of the last poster on each thread, the ex-members had the last say. Hmmmm.

[iasmann]

That's because we don't have to check with Tony to find out what we are supposed to think. We use our God-given minds and think for ourselves. The way God intended. Otherwise He wouldn't have given us minds.

We are able to respond quickly for that reason. But Tony's minions have to wait until he raises his sceptre before they can tell him what we said and get their answers. This sometimes takes days. I think Tony let a few of them give their own answers a while back. But they started putting stuff on here (that he was telling them) about how twelve year old girls are only thinking of sex and should be forced to marry older men so they won't become promiscuous. They posted a bunch of stuff about how Godly it was for Tony to have all these wives. And a whole lot of other very bizarre stuff. Tony made them erase it all. Now he controls very closely what they say.

Tony's minions like it better that way. Their inability to properly respond to these posts makes them feel even better about their decision to place their eternal souls in the hands of the monster.

Tony's followers believe that God was not able to give them minds that are capable of understanding truth. They believe that God gave them Tony instead. The Bible says the Holy Ghost will show us the truth but they reject the Holy Ghost. They are not even allowed to use the name of the Holy Ghost in their cult. Tony does not want them knowing the truth about him.

Tony's followers don't have enough faith in the Bible to believe that they can communicate directly with God themselves. They preach against the Catholics for going to the Pope but they turn around and do the same thing going to Tony.

And they don't have the faith to believe that God can speak to them even though the Bible is very clear that God will speak to them and answer them if they'll call upon him instead of Tony.

[rich_hydell]

how about that idiot minion joey who lets his kid live their ..we were all minions at one time or another ..or was that onions,,hummmmmmm

[hbananna]

She isn't a kid anymore but they (the parents) are still to blame for condoning and encouraging the union. Shame on them.

[until_the_redemption]

hey ian you are wrong!

I'm not a minion, perhaps you made yourself that way... and the only way to satisfy your troubled self is to accuse others.

the devils are really having a hay-day with you aren't they!

oh by the way....for those of you that don't know.
Tony Alamo Christian Ministries IS a Full Gospel Church.

[rich_hydell]

until <im dont know who you are and really you dont need to answer my thought here ,You make a very good point and one of the great things about humans is we can change our mind and life direction.Really i never thought of myself as a minion in the ministri .I was a person who knew what he wanted their and worked very hard to get it.I left because first of all i dont believe i was saved their ive made that clear i believe it was a road to the truth which i feel i have not found and things were going in a direction i thought was not something i wanted. my point to ian was when someone sees things that they feel are in their mind wrong then early on speak your mind .I believe my time with tony and sue was because of a number of reasons but i always told them what i felt.when i disagreed then well the rest is history.I kinda knew ian years ago he seamed like a likable guy.Did he want to be a printer im not sure but for me i wanted to grow to learn and although i did many jobs my eye was on the top ,I wanted to be near our pasters because why would anyone want to be any other place then next to gods chosen..A lot of exmembers have their own religon ..their own truth that seems to exclude me ...So they should have the balls to pull the mote out of their own eyes, before, they reach for the one they belive is in anyone elses ...so on this i agree with you... if he felt he was a minion why did he stay so long ...

[no_stoppin_me]

Well it would depend on what your definition of "Full Gospel Church" is...

If you think that it means you can lie, steal(as in someone identity), rape little girls, have more than one wife (and lie about it), abuse children and adults, pledgarize other peoples writings, then I guess you would call it a "Full Gospel Church"

[no_stoppin_me]

Rich,

See, there's the problem. When people were "in" there, they most likely didnt think of themselves as "minions." They thought they were doing what God wanted them to do.

I personally do not think I was a "minion." Of course, I was a child there, so I just did as most children do and did what I was told. When I got older and saw that Tony was a liar, I got out.

The things that are going on there now are far different than what was going on in the past (as far as the polygamy and child-wives). Even leaving God out of it, they know that it is wrong.

[rich_hydell]

Well look i have made it clear its not my fight or cause .I have made my peace with it all i hear a lot of people talking about jody .Well were is jody.From what i understand she was 17 when she was their and i believe the law in ark is 14 or 15 to get married so my guess she is that knocks her out of the legal picture..If their ever was one with her.Now if anyone thinks they can talk about any church and not expect a fight well their just kidding themselfs .One thing we never did their was let anyone push us around and that included exmembers ...The world has a lot of needs my sugestion is people either do what i do and post on the remember post or do something or hit the road ...i hate hyopcrits and their seems to be a few on this site.thay would rather get mad at me for thinking about recording my next cd their then do something for the children of this world ....to them i say ...f ......u....

[hollydolly]

i think its wrong of you rich to judge why people are on this message board........

[no_stoppin_me]

Hmmm, I hate hypocrits too, Rich

[rich_hydell]

read my words holly molly...ok no judging here...just a heart full of me ...if u knew me u would git it ....so how are yall down their in no mans land huh.richard hydell and wrecked

[rich_hydell]

read my words holly molly...ok no judging here...just a heart full of me ...if u knew me u would git it ....so how are yall down their in no mans land huh.richard hydell and wrecked

[hollydolly]

i'm aware of where i live rich but honestly what does that have to do with me or what we are talking about on this board? can you be alittle more original when you make fun of people?

[rich_hydell]

i was making fun of ur hick town not u suger,im from brooklyn we know how to rank people out. and we make good hit men to ...know anyone u want wacked...hay goomba can i make u some pastafazool...og should i make u some chicken fried steak . with gravy...and black eyed peas and corn bread ...huh

[cha_cha]

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