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arkiebrian
11-14-2006, 12:35 AM
In case you haven't noticed, references to me have been removed from other sites also. If you have been attacked and would like to know how to get this stuff removed - send me an email.

arkiebrian
11-14-2006, 01:39 AM
http://redtape.msnbc.com/2006/05/bob_the_writer_.html

Above is an article about the inconsistencies of online "background searches." These services, by no means, guarantee the authenticity of the results.

expositor
11-14-2006, 05:46 PM
Hey, Arkie

On March 9, 2006, "the_truth" posted about Factnet and stated "Factnet has also conveniently provided a CIA moderator skilled in their mind control techniques, to censor any posts to their board that expose their evil deeds and objectives."

Arkie you responded and denied that you as the moderator had any such affiliation and challenged anyone to prove differently. The other day, someone posted something about you, arkiebrian, that prompted you to shut down and purge the board. By doing this you have proven what the opposition has said. Whatever you are trying to hide from the Factnet audience is surely available elsewhere on the Internet and anyone not under "mind-control" can find out for themselves by searching, so why don't you go by the same rules for everyone and allow all posts as permanent, unless you have something to hide???
Will you bump me for enquiring? I know the Vatican is heavy into censorship, are you part of the Vatican? You and Factnet have lost your credibility so come clean!!!

carolfryer
11-14-2006, 06:05 PM
lol dont listen to that mumbo jumbo arkie, they will do and say anything to stop you. If they cant controle you they will try to slam you. Soon they will start whining....well they already are. Its your job, you do it.

hollydolly
11-14-2006, 06:22 PM
lololololol...........taking personal info off the internet hardly proves a damn thing..........gosh whats the deal with these people and the vatican? lololo

no_stoppin_me
11-14-2006, 06:30 PM
I will not work for free!! The Vatican better send me my damn check already!! I am sick of waiting for it.

expositor
11-14-2006, 06:54 PM
For your information, for thousands of years the Vatican has suppressed and censored free speech. Factnet is doing the same and just curious if there's any connection? It's also interesting that hollydolly responds for arkiebrian? What are you hiding? You're right, it can be found on the Internet!!! no_stoppin_me, don't look for a check, you're too stupid. You do work for free!!! Arkie, "you got leaks, call a plumber"

weaned_child
11-14-2006, 07:24 PM
expositor:

I see you've been ‘hangin-out’ since March of '06, or at least that’s when you decided to register to post on this forum.

However, with everything that has surfaced on this board since that time, all the atrocities etc., only now do you decide to speak out.

Didn't anything else of all that's been posted tickle your fancy to chime-in and contribute at least two-cents? Obviously not.

So now you're offended at how some disgracefully indiscreet posts were handled.

Gee, that's tuff.

Well I'd love to say we'll miss you, but unfortunately, that wouldn't be true cause no one ever knew you were out there.

hmmmm… your tone is curiously beginning to sound like one of the TA Trolls. Your speech is betraying you, expositor. So I think it’s safe to surmise you have no intentions of going anywhere. You’re here to agitate and you’re here to stay. Am I right?

hollydolly
11-14-2006, 07:34 PM
i respond to what i want to when i want to........did it ever occur to your dull senses that arkiebrian doesn't care to respond? lolol

expositor
11-14-2006, 07:44 PM
Truth is only agitating to those who fear it. You can keep your head stuck in the sand if you want but I prefer an open forum with free speech which is evidently not to be found here at Factnet. By the way Arkie, where can I find a list of your "banned" books (and posts)? Or should I ask hollydolly?

cha_cha
11-14-2006, 07:44 PM
Is Holly the moderator or her husband? Expositor, I do not know who you are, but it is refreshing to hear someone that makes sense and is telling the truth! I will get labeled for that, but I am really seething about factnet and the purging of the board to stop my freedom to say what I want. Call me what you will but I will not ever go for what they did. I do not think they are capable of any truth!

hollydolly
11-14-2006, 08:52 PM
may i remind you alamo followers on this board that you are the ones that hide behind fake names not us! wheres the truth in that? if you hadn't known who we were you would have never researched our public records now would you? so then you turn around and blame others when they want their private lives hidden from the internet? whats wrong with you? are you really that dumb? go away if you don't like when certain posts are removed......nobody cares that you're mad get it? lolol

expositor
11-14-2006, 09:13 PM
Okay, now let's see; what can we call it now?

Hollynut ?
Factnut ?
arkiedolly ?
factdolly ?
Dollynut ?
Briandolly ?
arkienut ?
Falsenet ?
AdminNut ?
FakeNut ?
FakeNet ?
ArkieBrianDolly ?
HollyArkieBrianDolly ?
ArkieHolDol ?

This is a hard decision. If I choose the wrong one I'll probably be zapped or deleted!!!

hollydolly
11-14-2006, 09:38 PM
grow up better yet grow a pair of nutz and quit licking tony alamos..........lolol ciao!

iasmann
11-14-2006, 11:28 PM
Expositor,

Let's see. What can we call you?

Suppository! Yes I think that will do nicely.

You're just another anonymous mudslinger who knows he's a liar. It's easy to be an anonymous tough guy. It only shows how yellow you and your boss Tony are. He's so afraid of being sued for all his slander that he hides behind his followers and has them hide behind false names. Which suits them fine. That way when he's busted on rape and child molestation and abuse charges they can pretend they didn't know anything about it.

How different from Jesus who always preached in the open and was not ashamed of any of his beliefs even though he knew he would be killed. Tony and his followers hide their beliefs in forced marriage of young girls 12 or younger. If they really believe the Bible says it then why don't they preach it publicly? Answer: They are cowards! Jesus said that if we deny his word then he will deny us. So if they believe it is in the word of God why are they denying it? Answer: they fear man more than God.

Tony's the one who censors the truth. Try to put literature on any cars on cult property. You'll be run off. They did it to me. Tony even told all his followers that if anyone read my letter they would instantly be guilty of blasphemy of the Holy Ghost just for reading it. Talk about being afraid of the truth.
So the real censor is Tony. Not arkiebrian.

expositor
11-14-2006, 11:46 PM
Yea, Arkie and Hollydog will protect you and their other Fakenet cult members from seeing or hearing any truth. It's clear that you've been brainwashed by their cult tactics otherwise you would be incensed at their censorship. There has been plenty lying garbage on this board about TA but anyone try to post truthful info about who's running this board and they get zapped. Look at the advertisement button on the left (or on Factnet home page), it says "Stop Internet Censorship", "Free Speech Online", "Blue Ribbon Campaign". WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!! You're too stupid to see you've been duped!!!

brother_d
11-15-2006, 12:30 AM
Expositor, you are the one who is evidently duped if you're still following around after Alame-o. I can't tell you how to live but you should at least make your own decisions on how to live. The reason people show so much anger on this site is because Phony stole a part of their lives and they see that it is still happening...to old friends, to children, and to unsuspecting souls. If you are allowing Tonee to dictate your life's direction then you are partaker in his crimes, and have given your life for nothing. Flee from the very appearance of evil. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

iasmann
11-15-2006, 12:52 AM
Nothing I've said about Tony is a lie. And I'm not afraid to publicly state it. Tony is afraid to sue me because he knows the truth will come out.

Everything his gutless anonymous followers said about me is a lie. That's why they hide in darkness. Darkness is what's in theirs and Tony's hearts. So they hide like the Devil, like cockroaches. LOL HaHaHa ROFL.

Suppository you are the mindless dupe who's too stupid to see it. HaHaHa LOL ROFL That's why you are ashamed to admit who you are. Coward, wimp, baby, momma's boy. You are totally unlike Jesus who stood up with courage and never hid behind a false name. But you are like your Lord and Master Tony who went around with Harvey Cochrans stolen ID. Hiding in darkness. Hiding in fear. Hiding and trembling like a gutless spineless coward.

carolfryer
11-15-2006, 04:03 AM
Everytime they whine just post another testimony.

christophr19
11-15-2006, 09:18 AM
To exposer(of one's self),

You mentioned mind controlled people. You do not think that you are under the influence of mind control, however you display EVERY symptom of one who is being influenced and programmed by a shadowy and secretive leader.

Here is the acid test to see if what I say is false or true......Ready for it??

Go to tony, sit down with him, look him in the eye and proceed to tell him that you have a personal and meaningful relationship with the Creator. That you need not any man to teach you, but that the Spirit will lead and direct you in all things. That you are a child of the Creator and washed in the blood of Jesus, and ON your way to paradise. Tell him that Jesus wanted you to tell tony to take all his comforts, treasures and leisure that he lives in, and give it to the poor, and to follow Jesus in His example of serving others and preaching the gospel of peace.
Now, go ahead. Run along and tell him all that.
See what he says, and then come report back to me, mmKay??
If tony's spirit is of the Creator, then it will witness with this.....if not.....then he is saying that his spirit is right and Jesus was wrong.
And there will be your answer and final warning.

hollydolly
11-15-2006, 03:17 PM
lolol........mmkay!

no_stoppin_me
11-15-2006, 07:50 PM
You are so ignorant, Expositor! Just keep posting your lies & slander. Since Bill Levy is not a public figure, I'm sure he has grounds to sue you.

iasmann
11-15-2006, 07:51 PM
Aren't you going to warn the people he supposedly threatened and tell us what he said. Oh, I see you're waiting for Tony to make it up for you. You are such a pathetic coward. Now you're going to use these made up threats as your reason for not telling us who you are. The problem is only Tony and his followers believe you. Everyone else knows you're lying.

The truth is that you and Tony and all his followers love darkness. Jesus loved the light. He was never afraid to tell who he was and he never preached anonymously. When Herod sent people to threaten him he didn't cower and hide. He told Herod openly where he'd be and what he's be doing.

The Devil is the one who operates anonymously and in disguises like Tony and his followers. Any one who reads the Bible can see that.

expositor
11-15-2006, 08:08 PM
From Missletoe in Ok City,

Thankyou for putting the information censored by the factnet monitors back up so people can read them. Factnet is a slanderous, dangerous, tool exercising censorship of the rebuttals made in reply to attacks made on their board. No credibility at all. Thankyou for telling the other side so I can have the freedom so cherished by our Christian forefathers to choose who and what to believe! It is called the freedom of speech and factnet absolutly hates that. They are destroyers of truth, HATERS of the true God, and haters of the souls of men. I stand corrected: THE TRUTH WILL NEVER BE DESTROYED and WILL IN FACT DESTROY THEM unless they repent. Who knowing the judgement of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same but have pleasure in them that do them. Rom. 1 v. 32. Alot of men died defending the freedoms we cherish. Factnet is a disgrace to them!! I hope that justice in some way will come to that wicked bunch!

<font color="ff0000">JUST BECAUSE I CAN.</font>

(Message edited by admin on November 15, 2006)

my2cents
11-15-2006, 08:51 PM
Hey expositor, go wipe your conscience and tell T.A. to do the same...

expositor
11-15-2006, 08:56 PM
JUST BECAUSE I CAN.

(Message edited by admin on November 15, 2006)

FactNet administrator,
Your censoring and editing actions show everyone that you are a liar and a phony and have a lot to hide.
On March 11, 2006 - 7:19pm: admin (board administrator){you} stated: "As the administrator of the FactNet Discussion Board I am here to emphatically tell you that there are no CIA plants in here as moderators. I challenge Don Sweat to present any evidence that he has to support his comment. Also, all Tony Alamo supporters are invited to share in the discussions here. Free speech is important to us."

Everytime someone like Antipas exposes you, as you challenged them, you censor or edit their post. So much for free speech!!! Everyone can see that you (admin), FactNet, arkiebrian/hollydolly and your whole bunch are liars and you have zero credibility with anyone that has a mind of their own. The only people that will listen to your garbage anymore are your little brainwashed FactNet cult members.

iasmann
11-15-2006, 09:18 PM
"Everytime someone like Antipas exposes you, as you challenged them, you censor or edit their post."

Perhaps if you and the other supporters of Tony would identify yourselves you might be treated differently. Everything you and your buddies posted about me was a lie. Everything! And I can prove it. If you'll identify yourself I'll be happy to ask arkiebrian to leave all the posts about me until after I win my slander lawsuit against you.

Freedom of speech is not freedom to slander and malign by posting lies on the internet. That's why we have laws against slander. You guys threatened to sue me and a bunch of others. But when we called you on it you backed down and made up lies to cover for yourselves. You all are such pathetic cowards hiding in darkness and false identities.

expositor
11-15-2006, 09:32 PM
Yea, yea, yea, iasmann (ian, ann &amp; scotty mann), now don't you slander me or you might get zapped by ol arki/hollydog. Your stupidity shows that you are just one of the brainwashed FactNet cult members.

hollydolly
11-15-2006, 09:35 PM
you preach freedom of speech but putting peoples personal records or addresses on the internet.... well thats slander you moron! now calling tony alamo a pedophile well thats freedom of speech! lolol you really should spend less time researching others because frankly scarlet you don't have a clue! you're nothing but an <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font>, we come on here with our real names which you nor any of tony's monkeys has yet to do and you use it against us then have the flippin nerve to <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font> about erased posts? lolol get over yourself......go put your tongue back up your master's arss

iasmann
11-15-2006, 10:02 PM
Since you are too cowardly to reveal yourself how can anyone slander you.
We don't know who you are because you don't have the guts to put your name on anything you say.
You are just a satanic voice of cowardice from the darkness.
You and your master Tony love darkness more than light that's why you are so afraid to reveal yourselves. Now you are making up threats to excuse your cowardice. But if you were actually Christians you would not be so intimidated by someone like me.
I have to admit that after all the garbage I took from Tony it feels pretty good to know that he and you are so afraid of me that you have to hide in the darkness.
As you can see I'm not afraid of you or Tony. That's why I post under my own name.
When you get up enough courage to slander me under your own name let me know. In the meantime everyone but Tony is laughing at you.
I know Tony won't let you tell who you are because he is afraid if you are sued you'll sing like a bird and he'll wind up in jail. His whole cult is built on fear and mistrust. He wishes he could trust some of you but he knows that you are too much like him now after all these years so he knows he can never trust any of you. LOL ROFL HAHAHAHA
Serves you right Tony!

fear_god_not_man_esp_a_little_man
11-15-2006, 10:03 PM
prayer works
Someone else mentioned it and I know I have mentioned it before.
Those of us who still pray who havent discarded the salvation handed to us so many years past. who would like to bind together and pray to see Gods judgement, Then lets do so. We are not fighting against flesh and blood remember. Lets be done with this mess for once and for all. We are getting so close to the end of time and there are so many things to prepare and fight for. Like our eternal souls and the souls of others likewise.
Im not ashamed to post this even tho im sure i will get a rebuttal from some.

(Message edited by Fear God not man ,esp. a little man on November 15, 2006)

the_truth
11-15-2006, 10:21 PM
notice how arkie Brian posts the articles saying how unreliable the back round checks are while frantically trying to delete them all. then holly blows it and says it was accurate information and shouldn't be posted. "It's a matter of public record." right iasmann?

iasmann
11-15-2006, 10:27 PM
Except Holly never said the information was accurate. That's just another lie from the one whose name is a lie, the_truth. LOL

And it is a matter of public record. Just scroll up and you'll see.

the_truth
11-15-2006, 10:31 PM
and I quote "you preach freedom of speech but putting peoples personal records or addresses on the internet.... well thats slander you moron!" oh and holly, you shouldn't say moron, arkie brian, are you going to let her get away with that abuse? oh i guess you are. you're her husband.

hollydolly
11-15-2006, 10:35 PM
arguing and pointing the finger away from tony alamo who is an old pervert won't change the fact that the posts are deleted we will also continue to talk about alamo's sinful ways.......its in our best interest to just ignore you at this point..........its getting boring. does anyone else agree?

hollydolly
11-15-2006, 10:37 PM
blah blah blah blah mindless yapping on and on..........go pray.....work out your own salvation why don't you.........lol

no_stoppin_me
11-15-2006, 10:50 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, Oh were the Alamo clones saying something?

iasmann
11-15-2006, 10:50 PM
the_truth

That statement you quoted doesn't even come close to saying the information was accurate. You are so lame but you're right about one thing. No one should call you a moron. It's an insult to morons.

Come out of the darkness and quit hiding and we'll take you a little more seriously. Like I said slander me in your own name and I'll leave it up until after the lawsuit.

But Holly is right. All this does is take away from the true information about Tony that he is beating and molesting young children and that he is a liar, thief, homosexual, and adulterer who is hiding behind a false cloak of Christianity.
Who uses the Gospel of Jesus Christ as a cover for his sinful, wicked, criminal activities.
He no more believes the Bible than the man in the moon.
He gives all Christians a bad name.

carolfryer
11-15-2006, 11:13 PM
He is drunk with power and never able to be satisfied, always looking for something more. The only answer is in Jesus,,,,not some little girls pants.


NIKKI
" I lived in Tony's house for almost 3 years (12-15yrs old). I was forced by Tony and my family to live at his house.".
"
He used to have me sit next to him and tell me all sorts sexual tales and things that he'd like to do I actually learned about everything from threesums to how big black guys dicks are from Tony and he would always tell to promise not to tell anyone."

" So June of 99' I was fifteen and I made a phone call to a relative in Chicago to get me out and long story a bit shorter Tony found out and the consequences were horrific he nearly killed (no really) he knocked me unconscious but I was so terrified that he would kill me because I had seen the way he beat the others "

TAMI
"Shortly after Tony kicked my husband Randy out, he declared I was to become one of his wives. I resisted. I did not love him. I didn’t even believe in polygamy. I did not want to leave my husband."

" After his pressuring didn’t work, he hit me where he knew he would get me: If I didn’t marry him, I would go to hell. Something terrible would happen to me. I would die. I would get sick. My daughter would be demon-possessed. "

"On October 15, 1993, I married Tony Alamo. He asked me if I wanted to consummate the marriage. I said no."

" I felt like I was going to vomit. I kept praying for God to deliver me from this mess. "

" I was seventeen. He was sixty-three."

JODIE
"After hearing him say all this stuff, how I was going to die very shortly and go to hell. I finally told him crying that I lived my life for God and I wanted to do God's will.
He then made arrangements to take me to Palm Springs to "marry" me.I was terrified and asked to call my mom back in Arkansas. Tony told me I could not and he would make sure I never saw my family again unless I "consummated" the marriage. He even threatened to have some of the "brothers" drive me out to the desert and leave me there unless I slept with him. "

"I was dry heaving and couldn't sleep for days. I would cry the whole time. "

"Tony was very careful when he took me for a wife. He didn't want the church to know because the idea of polygamy wasn't accepted by his following yet."

" He then told me about Lizzy and because she was so small, it took her three days for him to break her in.

raining
11-15-2006, 11:43 PM
who cares about what holly, Brian, Carolyn, Ronnie, Ian, Ann, Sue, or anyone else did - it pales when compared to the self-proclaimed, self anointed "world pastor" Tony Alamo!

To this day he tells lies on his radio broadcast!

*Tony Alamo - stop lying and trying to convince people that you did not beat children, and that you, Tony Alamo also gave the command to have the children beaten on Georgia Ridge!

The truth is - Tony Alamo has beaten and has commanded children to be beaten bloody! My own eyes saw the beatings, my own ears heard tony alamo give the command and the number of swats to be inflicted, he also choose who was to administer the beating! TONY ALAMO YOU ARE A LIAR! Too many of us have left your foundation and are no longer afraid to stand up to you and proclaim to the world the what really happened up on Georgia Ridge!

bill_l
11-15-2006, 11:50 PM
This is Alan, Bills partner.
Holly, a very slanderous post was issued against Bill today. Why has it not been deleted ? It is in this category.
When all of this slanderous posting started, Bill was the first one. He e-mailed arkiebrian and asked to have it removed, at least the addresses, phone numbers and SS numbers.
Arkie never responded
He finally got a different moderator who did respond, but only X'd out the SS #
At this point he is totally disillusioned with Factnet, not to mention you and Arkie.
If somebody is truly going to moderate this group, knowing the things that TA keeps posting, they have to stay on top of the job, and that might mean daily housekeeeping.
Since the post I mentioned above, refers to him as a very dangerous, armed person, and tells the police to be aware, I don't see why this post was not immediatly deleted. I would apreciate your attention to this matter immediatly.
Thank You

<font color="ff0000">I CAN'T SPEND ALL MY TIME MONITORING EVERY POST ON THIS SITE. REGARDLESS OF WHAT SOME PEOPLE THINK, THIS IS NOT MY FULL TIME JOB - I DO THIS ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS. I KNOW WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE AND I WILL MONITOR THAT THOSE ARE NOT CROSSED...ARKIEBRIAN</font>

(Message edited by arkiebrian on November 15, 2006)

raining
11-15-2006, 11:53 PM
To this day Tony Alamo tells lies on his radio broadcast!

Tony Alamo says he only has 1 wife! LIAR -

If you don't claim all the under-age girls you have taken to your bed for the past 12 or so years, then what do you call them?

The night I went to dinner with you and several of your "wives" at the Peabody Hotel" in Memphis, you proudly declared them to be your wives! That night at dinner with us was me, Tony alamo, Sharon, Lydia, Jeanne, Lizzy, and Angel! (Jeanne &amp; Lizzy were 15 or 16 years old at that time) By taking them to your bed at that age - that would make you a child pedophile.

so what is it ton? are you a liar or an adulterer-? cuz either all those girls are your wives or you are a fornicator.

I say you are a LIAR, A FORNICATOR, AND AN ADULTERER! There are so many commandments you break- you are a false prophet!

the_truth
11-16-2006, 12:02 AM
this is such a joke already. you have to be the most ungodly people to pour out your delusions on a site such as facnet. a totally antichrist organization. and then for it to turn out that arkiebrian the moderator is none other than holly's husband. ha ha ha! what a joke. you people are really wacky. you get 'witnesses' of total lying reprobates on here spewing nothing but lies. ha ha ha! what a joke.

come on iasmann, give me your best shot with the slander suit. iasmann, for all this to be supposedly lies told about you you sure are upset. watch your blood pressure though. you know you got a bad heart. and I mean that more ways than one.

iasmann
11-16-2006, 01:14 AM
HAHAHA - the_truth - still hiding in the darkness. Wants me to sue but won't reveal his name. What a joke.

Don't worry about my blood pressure. Someone misinformed you about my heart. I had a stress test last month. No blockage, not even 5%. BP 130 over 70.

Looks like you need a new investigator. The one you got now is pretty lame. I've been legal since 1984 and a US citizen since 2003. He's telling you I'm an illegal alien.
The house he said I had built last year was actually built in the 80's. Now he's saying I've got a bad heart and high blood pressure? I hope you're not paying him for this info because you're being robbed if you are.

LOL

the_truth
11-16-2006, 02:21 AM
No, I mean you just look fat and unhealthy. I heard the back of your neck looks like a package of hotdogs. thats not good.

bill_l
11-16-2006, 02:22 AM
Alan Here;
I hope you all read ARKIEBRIANS response to my request. He doesn't have time to monitor this board properly. He has a full time job.
How many posts a day are averaged on this board. You can go thru them all in less than 1/2 hour, but he doesn't have the time.
I think you should all be concerned about this. This man has no business being moderator.
Wait till TA makes up new stories about ya'll. Telling the police to watch out for you. That you're armed and dangerous. And he thinks it is proper to leave this up. He knows, I assume, being married to Holly, that what the ex-members speak is the TRUTH. By rights he should also be aware that what comes out of tiny's mouth is lies,(ie-slander). But he chooses to leave it up.
Bill and I are both done on this board. We will not read it anymore.
If you people really want to do something about TA, go to the topixnet board and work with the people from Fouke. They have the greatest interest in him as he is plaguing their city.
I have spoken to several residents there who desperatly want to help. I have been copying posts from here to there. The testimony stories from the girls. They hear the screams coming from the compound at night. The girls who have shared their testimonies here, need to be willing to come forward and talk to theses people.
Ones you can trust are Sherry Potts and PACA. Leave a message on the stopping Alamo topic and help them to help yourselves.

I'm outa here

<font color="ff0000">EXPECTING ME TO SIFT THROUGH EVERY POST AND WEIGH WHETHER OR NOT IT IS TRUTHFUL IS RIDICULOUS. IF THAT IS THE CASE THAN EVERY "OPINION" POSTED BY THE PRO-ALAMO PERSON(S) WOULD HAVE TO BE DELETED SINCE THEY ARE ALL LIES. I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. FAIR OR NOT THAT'S HOW IT IS.</font>

(Message edited by arkiebrian on November 15, 2006)

raining
11-16-2006, 02:28 AM
Tony Alamo is the Liar - on his radio broadcast he claims he was operating out in the open while opening "Wild Childs" in the Tampa area. Tony Alamo lies when he says on his radio program that he did not flee from the law.
Read one of the many articles printed about Tony Alamo's arrest by the FBI in Florida!

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Los Angeles Times July 22, 1991


Article: Alamo's Life as a Fugitive Was Spent Out in the Open Religion: Untraceable cellular phones and taped radio shows helped the fundamentalist minister hold the reins of his church and businesses while federal agents tried to track him down.

"Although hunted across the nation by federal agents, religious cult leader Tony Alamo lived an open, if not completely public, life before his capture this month in Florida... Alamo was using the name Harvey Cochran!

"But it was Alamo's high-profile lifestyle and reliance on his followers that ultimately led to his capture and may result in the end of his Holy Alamo Christian Church. A task force of federal agents monitored the gathering in Tampa of Alamo followers from across the country and then ultimately followed them to him.

"At the end of his run, the flamboyant preacher seemed surprised. Handcuffed and sitting on the driveway outside his waterfront home, he looked up at the federal agents who had just arrested him and said: "How'd you guys find me?"

"Divine guidance," he was told.

"Controversy has followed Alamo since the early '70s when he and his wife, Susan, began taking busloads of young dropouts, drug addicts and drunks from the streets of Hollywood to a compound in Saugus, where they were treated to fire-and-brimstone admonitions that included Alamo's anti-government and anti-Catholic beliefs...

"But the growth was accompanied by allegations that children were abused in the communes, that Alamo's followers were brainwashed and forced to work for little pay, and that he lived luxuriously off the profits. Alamo received widespread attention when his wife died in 1982 and he predicted that she would be resurrected. He reportedly placed her embalmed body on display in an Arkansas commune for six months.

"In 1985, Alamo's church was stripped of its tax-exempt status after the Internal Revenue Service determined that it was a profit-making enterprise. Three years later, the preacher with a penchant for Western-style clothing disappeared as Los Angeles County authorities investigated the beating of an 11-year-old boy alleged to have occurred at the Saugus commune. Authorities said Alamo directed the beating via telephone from another location.

"Now, in the wake of his capture, federal authorities are trying to document the holdings of Alamo and his church, collect more than $7 million in back taxes, and retrace Alamo's trail as a fugitive.

"Fuchs, part of a 10-agent task force that tracked and captured Alamo, said investigators believe that Alamo settled in the Tampa Bay area almost immediately after fleeing California.

raining
11-16-2006, 02:28 AM
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Los Angeles Times July 22, 1991


"Authorities said Alamo had a core group of followers that helped him elude capture. Prosecutors have described these followers as bodyguards-"Christian soldiers" ready to protect their pastor with weapons, if needed.

"They assisted him; they protected him," FBI Agent Donald Geisler testified this month in a Tampa courtroom where Alamo was seeking bail. Geisler said former followers of Alamo have told investigators that the group has access to automatic weapons and that "Mr. Alamo and his bodyguards should be considered armed and dangerous."

"The contention that Alamo's group is armed or violent angers church followers. They point out that numerous searches have never turned up weapons on church property.

Albert Krantz, 40, a gaunt, soft-spoken former drug addict who credits Alamo with saving him spiritually two decades ago, came to Tampa last year to work with Alamo on clothing designs. FBI agents identified him as an Alamo bodyguard.

"It is completely and utterly ridiculous," he said of the idea that a phalanx of Alamo soldiers is ready to commit violence to protect Alamo. "I don't think anyone would consider me a bodyguard."

"Ray Arauz, a Los Angeles follower of Alamo who the FBI said is also an Alamo bodyguard, scoffed at such a contention.

"I am nobody's bodyguard," said Arauz, 41. "I have my own family to watch out for. This just shows the government harassment that is going on here. The whole thing is very unfair."

"Aside from the dispute over bodyguards and weapons, it is apparent that Alamo-nearly blind from glaucoma and unable to drive-was routinely in the company of several followers while he was a fugitive.

"Alamo has remarried and has a 9-year-old stepdaughter. Federal agents said they believe that the family moved often from house to house in the Tampa area. They say they have documented that he moved from a house in Madeira Beach, near Tampa, earlier this year when a neighbor complained to police about the large number of people who stayed at the home and the late-night comings and goings of the entourage.

"Billy Johnson operates a private postal box store next to the Big Time Discount hardware store that authorities said Alamo-using the name Harvey Cochran-opened in Pinellas Park, across Old Tampa Bay from Alamo's rented house. Johnson said Alamo made several visits to the hardware store each week, always arriving in a van with four or five other men. Alamo always carried a cellular phone, Johnson said.

"They did no advertising; some days they didn't even open," said Johnson, who became suspicious of his neighbor. "It was like they were in business but they didn't care if they got any business."

raining
11-16-2006, 02:29 AM
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Los Angeles Times July 22, 1991


"The store has been closed since the arrest, and church followers have begun removing its inventory.

"Investigators said Alamo's frequent moves of his household and his use of cellular phones-which are untraceable-mail drops and numerous aliases were the chief impediments to his capture.

"The FBI said Alamo made calls from Tampa using cellular phones registered in New Jersey. This allowed him to frequently call newspapers and a Nashville radio talk show hosted by his brother, Dan Hoffman, without fear of giving away his whereabouts.

"As an example of how he tried to prevent his mail from being traced, investigators said Alamo sent tapes to be broadcast on radio station WRFA-AM in nearby Largo to a post office box in New York. A follower would pick up the tapes, then remail them so that they arrived at the Florida radio station with New York postmarks.

"Investigators said they know of at least seven aliases used by Alamo while he was a fugitive.

"Known as Harvey Cochran at the hardware store, his name was G. Elmo Justine at the waterfront home he rented in Tampa. After Alamo was arrested, agents found a business card in his wallet from a restaurant called Wild Child's in Temple Terrace, northeast of Tampa. The card belonged to H. Colling, general manager of the restaurant.

"Federal agents went to the restaurant and learned that H. Colling was Alamo, who had orchestrated the opening of the restaurant two weeks earlier, making all the decisions right down to the design of the restaurant's logo and menus. The agents also learned that several of the restaurant's employees were followers of Alamo's church who had moved to the area in recent months to be near their pastor.

"One employee is Jennifer Colbeck, a 17-year-old waitress who was born in Saugus and lived in Alamo church communes until she moved to Tampa this year. She said she came with her husband, John, also an Alamo follower and a dishwasher at Wild Child's. Like other followers who would talk to the media in Tampa, she recited, seemingly by rote, a denunciation of the pursuit and capture of the preacher she called "Papa Tony" while growing up.

"Tony's been my pastor all of my life," she said. "He is the only preacher I know of. He preaches the gospel and some people don't like that. They know he is telling the truth and they just want to shut him up. It's unfair. He's done nothing wrong."

"Investigators believe that profits from the businesses started by Alamo and operated by his followers helped the fugitive preacher finance new ventures as well as avoid capture.

"Johnson, owner of the shop next to the hardware store, said Alamo had expressed interest in buying his postal box business but was arrested before serious negotiations began.

raining
11-16-2006, 02:30 AM
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Los Angeles Times July 22, 1991


"Harvey-that's what I knew him as-told me he was looking for businesses to buy because he had a lot of people to put to work," Johnson said.

"Alamo's high-profile activities were unusual for a federal fugitive, authorities said. They concede that had he divorced himself from his church and its followers, he might still be free.

"He thumbed his nose at federal authorities," Assistant U. S. Atty. David Jennings said. "Not until the task force was put together did he see that he couldn't keep doing that."

"The federal task force was formed in May after authorities received information that numerous Alamo followers were flocking to Tampa, said Mike Blevins, chief deputy marshal in Fort Smith, Ark.

"We thought that the probability was good that these people were going there because he was using Tampa as a hiding place," Blevins said.

"The migration of followers to Tampa had in part been spurred by the seizures of numerous church properties in Arkansas and Tennessee to satisfy IRS tax liens. A lien has been placed against the property in Saugus, which has been boarded up and unused for several months.

"Other properties were seized to pay a $1.8-million court judgment won against Alamo by a family of former followers who claimed that the preacher had abused children, alienated family members and violated labor laws. That case prompted more criminal charges against Alamo when he called up a Fort Smith newspaper and allegedly threatened the life of the judge who heard the suit.

"But some followers of Alamo said their arrival in Tampa was coincidental to Alamo being there.

"Rick Tiner, an Alamo follower for 20 years, said he moved there without knowing that Alamo was nearby. "Other brothers of the church said it was a good area to get a new start," Tiner said. "And I had never been to Florida before. I didn't know Tony was here until after I got here."

"Federal authorities have dismissed such claims, derisively referring to the gathering of followers in Tampa as "miraculous." Prosecutor Jennings said the followers came because they are part of Alamo's "nationwide support group, . . . people who would abandon their lives to come to Tampa to harbor him."

"Blevins said task force agents located many of Alamo's known followers by checking applications for Florida driver's licenses.

raining
11-16-2006, 02:31 AM
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Los Angeles Times July 22, 1991



"That started nearly two months of surveillance of the followers as the agents waited to be led to Alamo. The plan paid off July 3 when agents followed a church member from the Big Time Discount hardware store to the Tampa neighborhood of Palma Ceia where comfortable houses line a network of man-made canals.

"The man they followed pulled into a driveway on San Rafael Street, where behind a sweeping front lawn stood a ranch house with a red brick facade.

"When the man left, the agents stayed. They secretly watched the house for two more days until the morning of July 5, when an overweight man with an unkempt gray beard and thick, dark glasses stepped out the front door and picked the morning newspaper up off the driveway.

"That's our subject," one of the deputy marshals whispered into his radio, a low-key report that signaled the end of Tony Alamo's run.

"A few hours later, the task force moved in."

raining
11-16-2006, 02:45 AM
The truth about Tony Alamo is that he did flee from Calfornia to avoid being arrested on child abuse charges. Tony Alamo gave the command for Justin Miller to be beaten 140 times with a board. Tony did not beat these charges of child abuse. The charges were dropped after Tony Alamo was sent to a federal penitentiary for 6 years for tax evasion. The prosecutors went for the sure thing. People knew Al Capone was guilty of crimes &amp; murder. However Al surrounded himself with liars, who would cover and lie for him. So the government got him on tax evasions. That is exactly what happened in the case of Tony Alamo. He can surround himself with liars, but the Lord didn't deliver out of the enemy's hand. You went to prison and you served your entire sentence - they didn't even letTony Alamo out on good behavior!

During the tax evasion trial Tony Alamo was asked about his polygamy marriages, and having sex with under-age girls. Tony Alamo plead the 5th amendment 10 times!

raining
11-16-2006, 02:47 AM
read the one of many articles that were printed about tony alamo's tax trial


Newspaper: The Commercial Appeal
Article: Alamo Found Guilty of Tax Evasion, Jailed
Date: 06/09/1994

"...U.S. Dist. Judge Jon McCalla ordered Alamo held without bond after a government witness testified that Alamo may have committed bigamy and statutory rape in the past 18 months."

The Witness, IRS special agent David Kimbrough, quoting one of Alamo's ex-wives, said Alamo took as many as nine wives, mostly teen and some as young as 15 years old. Kimbrough said some of the teenage wives were forced into the church marriages by threats of being thrown out of the church. At least one woman told agents she was forced to have sex with Alamo.

McCalla said anyone hearing Wednesday's testimony would be concerned due to "the very great control Mr. Alamo has over a great number of people.

Justice Department attorney Christopher Belcher also pointed out that Alamo was a fugitive between mid-1989 and mid-1991, when he was wanted on several criminal charges. He still faces felony child abuse charges in California, where he is accused of ordering the beating of the child of a follower...

Kimbrough said members of Alamo's church told IRS agents that they feared for their own daughters because Alamo recently had begun marrying girls as young as 12, and even suggested that he would marry his own stepdaughter, who is 11...

For the jurors, Alamo's testimony worked against him, she said: “He said we were sitting in the building of the church of Satan," in reference to his theory of a one-world church...

Among the 40 witnesses called by the government were former followers and three of Alamo's ex-wives who detailed his extravagant spending for himself and his wives.

An Arkansas banker testified that Alamo alone controlled more than 20 bank accounts in the name of various businesses under the Music Square Church.

Alamo took the witness stand himself to deny that he had any income in the years in question. He said that as the pastor, he was supported by the church, and that everything he did was to further his ministry.

He expounded on his theory of a conspiracy by the "Lucifer-worshipping" forces of the Vatican, IRS, FBI, Mafia and the new media, which he said was trying to create a "one-world" church/government to rule the world.

He invoked the Fifth Amendment 10 times when Belcher asked him whether he had multiple wives

raining
11-16-2006, 02:51 AM
Read this article out of the LA Times, where Tony Alamo lies to the court and says he does not know where Susie's body was at.




Los Angeles Times/February 20, 1997
By James Ricci


Cult Leader Loses Ruling Over Dead Wife's Body

The Arkansas Court of Appeals on Wednesday dismissed on a technicality religious cult leader Tony Alamo's appeal of an order requiring him to produce the missing body of his long-dead wife for burial.

The body of Susan Alamo, who died of cancer in 1982, disappeared from a Dyer, Arkansas mausoleum owned by the cult in 1991, shortly after federal authorities moved to seize church assets for tax irregularities.

In 1995, a lower court found that Alamo was responsible for the theft of Susan Alamo's remains. The couple had built a religious cult and business empire from a storefront effort to reclaim drug users and teenage runaways in Hollywood during the 1960s.

The court ordered Alamo to return the body so its identity can be verified by an Arkansas medical examiner prior to a "proper and legal entombment."

The court order resulted from a suit brought by the dead woman's daughter, former cult member Christhiaon Coie of Reseda. It ordered Alamo, who is nearing the end of a six-year federal sentence for tax evasion, to produce the body or be jailed for contempt of court upon his expected release from federal prison in Texarkana, Tex.

"I'm just so happy today," Coie said Wednesday. "He had no right to do anything like this. This is so perverse. So insane."

Alamo, a flamboyant evangelist who acted as his own attorney on the appeal, has alternately confirmed and denied he knows the whereabouts of the body.

Coie's lawyer, Charles Karr of Fort Smith, Ark., said the appeals court threw out Alamo's appeal because it wasn't filed in a timely manner. He said decisions of the appeals court are rarely reviewed by the Arkansas Supreme Court.

Karr said he wouldn't be surprised if Alamo approached the high court nonetheless. "That would be his next step if he wants to take another one, and, knowing him, he probably will."

hbanana
11-16-2006, 02:53 AM
Maybe Alamo should change his profession to palm reader. He will get the same amount of hits and misses when he predicts things as he does as a False Prophet and I hear it is more lucrative. Then he can impress all of the jews in NY, not just 144,000! What a pathetic end to a worthless nobody. I guess he isn't as business savvy as he leads everyone to believe. Tsk-Tsk, another lie.

PS - I have checked out most of the slander being spammed all over the place on some of these people by the Alamoites and have found, after speaking personally to police departments, friends, family, and neighbors (of the accused), the accusations are completely unfounded and false (I know, another big surprise, but considering the source...) So The Manns, The Pryors, The Leaches, Bill and Alan, The Groulxs, and myself are completely exonerated from these charges. (You see I don't rely on a computer or a “False Prophet” to tell me anything about people. I am what you would call a hands-on investigative type person. I like to be sure the information I am receiving is accurate).

TO ALAMO MINISTRY FOLLOWERS: If Tony Alamo or any of his followers would like to see the proof I have gathered to dispute their accusations on these good people, just let me know. However, it will be based on the condition that you reveal the identities of the accusers, as well as issuing a written apology to all of those you have wrongfully slandered. If, on the other hand, you would like to back up your strong beliefs, regarding the above mentioned individuals, by providing your factual sources (and an internet research site is not even considered when applying for a job so it will not be used to establish credibility for this purpose) then you will be able to prove that YOU are telling the truth and we can all stop playing these pathetic, childish games. I also invite you to provide factual proof positive about the “accusations” you claim are false pertaining to your leader, Tony Alamo and his perverted, and lying behavior in order to gain any credibility. If you can do that, then perhaps you will get some apologies of your own, after all most people posting on this site are Christians.

In short; PUT UP OR SHUT UP. You will not be taken seriously, going forward, unless you can act as mature adults and stand by your convictions as “Warriors of God” and not the “Cowards of Darkness” you have been exhibiting over the last several months on this forum.

Otherwise, it is our duty as human beings to put an end to these atrocities and expose Tony Alamo and anyone who supports his abusive behavior so that the cycle is not continued through the innocent children being raised in such a destructive environment. Our prayers are our strongest weapon and God will answer them, one way or another.

PS - I am flattered that you all are accusing me of being the Child Advocate on the Fouke Forums. He/She sounds like someone I might actually try to contact, if he/she is living in Pennsylvania...or anywhere else. Thanks for showing us all how much he/she was getting to you. Perhaps he/she has some info that we do not that could be helpful. Wouldn't that be interesting to find out? Does anyone on this board or in Fouke know anything about that person? Email me please to discuss.

Hannah

saved_21570
11-16-2006, 03:20 AM
Hannah,

Tony Alamo is not interested in the truth. The truth is his mortal enemy. That is why he had his group of toadies carefully mix their batch of lies with a few provable facts. It is an age old Tony tactic. It's sole intent is to deceive, obscure the truth, and cause confusion and disention.

I get a kick out of how afraid he is of you. From the time you were 12yrs. old he was making up stories to smear you! What a f@g. He was probably angry that your parents got you out of his reach. LOL

Tom

(Message edited by saved_21570 on November 15, 2006)

raining
11-16-2006, 04:28 AM
The few faceless, yellow cowards, spineless, creeps from the darkness that follow Tony Alamo's every order will never post their name!
The Alamo followers come on here and say they are trying to give a rebuttal to facts we have posted about Tony Alamo. In case you don't know a rebuttal is an answer or explanation to what was said. A rebuttal is not a bunch of slanderous lies about the person who posted it and their entire family!

So here is your chance to exercise your freedom of speech, and to give a rebuttal regarding Tony Alamo.

*Tony Alamo wrote a tract called "Polygamy", why is that tract now removed off Tony's website? (Rebuttal means - respond to this statement!)

*Tony Alamo has commanded children to be beaten, suspended spread-eagle in mid-air while the beating is being administered by an adult other than the child's parent.

Several children, who were the victims of Tony Alamo's beatings, and adults who either witnessed the beatings or they were the administrator of the beatings have stated numerous times these beatings did happen.

On Tony Alamo's radio program he denies the children being beaten! (Rebuttal means - respond to this statement)

*Tony Alamo claims he was operating out in the open in Tampa while opening "Wild Child's", and other businesses. Why was he using Harvey Crochran's name and why did Tony Alamo have Harvey's ID on him. Poor Harvey was in Arizona in a near coma like state.

So why did Tony Alamo have 10 other aliases when he was arrested.. (The rebuttal would go to this question.) (Not some slanderous blurb of lies about any of the posters or moderator)


Please exercise your freedom of speech and give your rebuttal to the above questions!

Tony- you want so badly to be world pastor - this would be a great opportunity for you to come on and explain to the entire world your doctrine about 12 year old girls needing to be married to 30 year old men- so that they don't commit fornication. Don’t forget to include that you are so special in the eyes of God that he has given you many under-age girls to deflower and then deny they are your wife.

hbanana
11-16-2006, 04:45 AM
Thanks Tom,

My parents were on to Tony Alamo years before we were forced out. My father recently shared a very interesting story about how he got us "put out" and again it goes back to Tony Alamo's ego. Dad was putting in request after request to speak with Tony about his concerns in the direction the church was going since Susie's death. Tony wouldn't give him the time of day, of course so my dad decided he would have to get put on report somehow in order to get an audience with him. He chose to play a movie to us kids at the pink nursery during a sleepover for my brother's birthday. He chose the movie "Aliens" (rated R) knowing he would get in trouble and be able to get an audience with his Majesty the king, Tony Alamo.

Sure enough, it worked and my father was able to speak for 3 minutes via speaker phone to discuss his concerns and ask Tony what his vision was for the future of the church. Well, Tony never even answered him. He simply said "Get this joker out of here". That was the appreciation Alamo showed him after 15 years of dedication and slaving for Tony. I guess it didn't make his sentence any lighter since my father witnessed Tony picking up prostitutes and drugs on the streets of Nashville when he was his limo driver, as well as a number of other indiscretions not becoming of a man of God. So it was truly a blessing from the Lord that he released us from that den of iniquity. We are all the happier and healthier for it.

The rumor of me being a prostitute in TN was told to my parents, from an ex-member who was recently set free themselves; while we were living in Pennsylvania and I was 13 years old at that time. (My parents chose not to share that one with me until I was much older) So that accusation was not a shock when I heard it on this board. It just surprised me that the followers still believe that kind of garbage from Alamo. So many people have gotten out of there and the followers were told that they died some terrible death or where homeless or drug attics, or in my case, prostitutes, and many other insane imaginings created to instill fear in the remaining followers. Fear that they can not survive without the group or Alamo’s charity. It is simply a spiritual journey to find the truth for ones self and they are simply not mentally equipped to take on the task. We will continue to pray for them and God will release those who see his word for what it is and not Alamo’s distorted fear tactic version of the scriptures.

anchored
11-16-2006, 02:04 PM
If you want to read a great blog that has details and eyewitness accounts of the REAL Tony Alamo and the abuses in the Alamo cult, go to http://tainformation.blogspot.com/

anchored
11-16-2006, 02:21 PM
Thanks hbanana for the info. More great details and eyewitness accounts of how this FALSE PROPHET, PEDOPHILE PERVERT, LIAR, CHILD/ADULT ABUSER, THIEF, DESTROYER OF SOULS operates.

Thanks again for sharing that.

saved_21570
11-16-2006, 04:06 PM
Hannah,

That is a great post regarding your Dad.

An interesting note I can add to that story. I was in Nashville passing out literature one night on Broadway. It was an area were there was bars and a few protitutes were in the street.

I was talking to one girl who seemed very bitter and angry, but was still open to the gospel. She then said to me, and I'm paraphasing, "I could tell you some things about Tony Alamo." When I inquired further, all she would say is "He rides in a limo right?" Then she desribed the limo and grinned.

I was a bit bewildered. There was a part of me that understood what she was saying, but at that time I never allowed myself to put 2 &amp; 2 together.

True story.

Tom

BTW- Anchored, great web site. I would like to see that passed out every where Tony Alamo has a presence.

carolfryer
11-16-2006, 06:07 PM
Anchored, I went to that site and it was awesome. Right on target. It also brought back a few more memories to me of time I was" ministering in missions in Chicago." Gary and Mary Morganflash had a gold van and we had an old junk car that emitted so much smoke people would curse and yell at us going down the street. The car finally broke down and we had to walk throughout the city distributing a quota of tracts daily. In most places the tracts were already stuffed under bushes and all over the streets where people had thrown them or members had hidden them to get their quota out. We were not given money for drinks or lunches and it was really hot. I guess it wasnt neccessary to eat for us.
Another memory was walking into Tonys house on the ridge and I was 8 months pregnant. I really wanted to sit down and was told I couldnt sit on the furniture. I had to sit on the floor and couldnt get back up..lol.Yet Tony in all his pompous glory swung himself around the room and plopped down on any piece of furniture that pleased him. go figure.
I do count myself very lucky to not have lived in the converted dog kennels in Saugus, I never went there.
I have to be honest. I felt there were some precious memories that I would not trade in for anything. Again in Chicago in the mission when Cynthia walked in with her baby Ta Ta. She was 2 months old and Cynthia had nothing else with her but one bottle and the teeshirt and diaper on the baby. She moved into the church and we had the most wonderful time caring for that precious bundle of joy. We shopped for clothes and prepared a room for her up on the third floor. Do you remember that Carolyn? Ta Ta was such a doll. Not everyone there is like Tony. They are just people like us. But they really make themselves beleive him. Often over the bible.

bill_l
11-16-2006, 06:22 PM
hbanana-
This is Alan. Even though I said I would not post anymore here, I wanted to thank you for you last post. Child Advocate has been very vocal on the Topix board that I started.
Here is the address:
www.topix.net/forum/city/fouke-as/THOK829RABLD7UE55 (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/fouke-as/THOK829RABLD7UE55)
The forum is called Shutting Down Alamo.
I urge everyone on this board to start looking at that board too. As I stated in my last post here yesterday, The people of Fouke are your best help in stopping Alamo, as they have a vested interest in him.
It seems here on Factnet, therre is just a lot of release of pent up anger and hostility towards TA. But this will not stop him.
There are people in Fouke who want him gone. Work with them. Especially Sherry Potts and PACA. Log on to topix and read the threads on this forum and make contact with these people.
If you all seriously want him stopped I think this is your best bet. He is doing his best to TAKE OVER the town of Fouke. It will become another Alma.
Work with them please, I urge you

carolfryer
11-16-2006, 06:39 PM
Allan, also many of the things weve experience are long past. Fouke is now. I would agree with you. The now backed up by the past is a good strategy.

carolfryer
11-16-2006, 06:54 PM
Alan I cant locate that forum shutting down Alamo. Is it supposed to be on there now?

carolfryer
11-16-2006, 07:53 PM
Ok Im confused, I finally found that thread and posted to it and got a post from Alan that the entire thread was discontinued. What did I miss?

bill_l
11-16-2006, 08:13 PM
Alan here;

Carol,
You're post is on there. I was referring to another thread that had been on Topix called "surrounding Alamo Ministries". It got pulled down yesterday. Had been up for quite a while. It was started by Sherri Potts, but with all of Alamo's slander on there, Topix pulled it down. The link above is active.
At the very bottom of every Topix page, you will see a heading "Other Fouke Forums", and under that a list of the other ongoing forums devoted to Fouke.
Alamo also pops up in the Mayor forum as well as several others, But I started my forum specifically for the purpose of talking about tiny, and ask everyone, as much as is humanly posible, to NOT respond to alamoites. I know sometimes it is hard, and I have done it myself. But maybe, just maybe, if we all ignore them and don't respond to their lies, they will give up posting, because the game will not be fun anymore. The same should be true for Factnet.
Why waste time replying to their posts. It accomplishes nothing, except letting them know that we are riled up. As long as they know that, they will keep posting.

Anyway Carol, thanks for going there. I urge EVERYONE to start posting there, especially any testimonies. I was already told by PACA, that he was printing out the testimonies I published there, and going to seek council, to see if anything can be done.

Keep up the good fight

hbananna
11-16-2006, 08:42 PM
Your welcome, Alan. I can see from the posts that they think I am Child Advocate. Oh well, he/she seems to be handling them okay on their own. I won't interfere. I also see that they are still calling me a prostitute. They are so clueless.

Take Care,
Hannah

fear_god_not_man_esp_a_little_man
11-17-2006, 04:17 AM
Ive been on this forum since the beginning.
It would be good to see that some good has come about because of all the exposure given about alamos.(I cant call it a church anymore).It would be nice to here that some or all of the followers have left because they are sick of what they are linked into because of tony. But now we find our moderator isnt the moderator we thought we had. Just something else alamo needs to divide everyone over.
alamo keeps posting garbage instead of admitting what is really happening there inside the walls of the alamos. (didnt really expect any change from their end) but alamo and cohorts keep getting more bazar with there lies.Plus all the personal information he posts about everyone. Who does that digging into peoples personal business. And how they twist it to suit there purposes. Its just utter tripe coming from alamos. who does that? is it don sweat? streit? Johnson? who are these morons? what a waste they have become.
It wouldnt surprise me at all that he sends some of his people out just to get on the inside of the outside. It sure smells fishy to me when i here about stuff. I dont trust not a one. I wouldnt believe anything coming from in there from anyone of them involved with tony. Its between them and God now. If the Righteous scarcely be saved where do the sinner and ungodly stand. Answer that alamos. But you wont answer honestly , you cant anymore..

carolfryer
11-17-2006, 05:10 PM
Thank you Alan. Do I type in Fouke forums in the search bar? All I see is forums at the top and it brings me to a never ending list. Theres a really interesting one on Terry Shaivo. Well Ill try again and putter around some more. Thank you again.

bill_l
11-17-2006, 05:31 PM
Carol
If you use the link to the forum I started, and go down to the bottom of the page.
YOu will see a heading Other Fouke Forums, and a list of the most recently responded to forums underneath. If you click on the heading itself(other Fouke Forums), it will bring up all of the forums pertaining to fouke. In terms of other foruums on Topix, your guess is as good as mine. I have not really explored Topix that much.
Hope this helps some.

anchored
11-17-2006, 05:42 PM
Carol,

On the News Front Page scroll down half way &amp; right underneath the article "<u>Ark. professor produces e-book on Bigfoot legend."</u>

You will see in small print:

More Fouke, AR News -- Forums -- Classifieds -- Real Estate

Click on Forums and it should take you right to it.

anchored
11-17-2006, 06:52 PM
Carol,

I thought you were looking for the Forum topic "Shutting Down Alamo."

I'm sorry if I sent you in the wrong direction.

I read the post you just wrote about an hour ago on Topix.net and was moved by it. I knew you went through a lot because of Tony Alamo's cruelty but didn't know to the extent that you described. Especially the part about Jody.

My heart really goes out to you. You are a dear child of the Lord and sure didn't deserve such treatment. You know you and Jody and all of your family are in our prayers.

In Christian love

carolfryer
11-17-2006, 11:28 PM
Thank you Anchored for your encouragement. I had posted but it seemed to dissappear at first. I did locate it though. Yes Jody was his first underage victem. He lied to her and told her God would kill her, then later told her his minions would drop her off in the desert. I didnt even know what was going on. I sent her there to keep her away from the problems I was having at home and sent her into a wolves den without knowing. Larry wanted her out of my house because she was witnessing things he didnt want her to either. She was so scared though that she never let on to me even after she was allowed to tell me. And it ended up giving her stomache problems and ulcers. This is the only place and now that other site that I ever even deal with this stuff. Untill I came here I completely left it all behind to a great degree. But if it will help stop him, Ill bring it all back up again. We are out now and I thank God for it. Jody is doing so much better then I had ever even hoped. Shes smart and dilligent and he could not destroy her for sure. And God did work everything out for us and always will. Hes been so faithful.

pobox398
11-18-2006, 12:13 AM
Praise the Lord, Carol

Thanks for sharing that. Nothing is as revealing as first hand accounts.
The telling part for me was where Jody used the Word against Tony to expose the his unscripturalness and the error of his ways. You have to know the Word to be able to use it correctly and skillfully. Jody couldn't have done that if she hadn't studied it.
Of course Tony didn't like that and sent her packing. Tony obviously wanted her away from the rest of his 'harem' pronto-quick before they began to get a clue and follow suit.

cp redeemed: 9/13/1970

carolfryer
11-18-2006, 01:40 AM
Well that was her job at Tonys house or at least part of it. She was to look up verses for him....but what he didnt like was what she looked up ended up showing him wrong. He wanted what he wanted and she was in his way. So yes she became very dangerous to him.

anchored
11-18-2006, 08:37 AM
I've been reading accounts of how Tony Alamo told husbands to leave their pregnant wives and then Tony would kick the pregnant wife out on the street like a piece of trash destitute of money, transportation, or any place to go.

That was real Christ-like A-lame-O.

You must be real proud of yourself macho man. I'm sure your rewards will be great when your epistle is read.

Little did you know (because you are not only legally blind but spiritually blind too) that this is what you did to the Lord Jesus Christ. Because Jesus said, "whatever you do do unto the least of mine, you've done unto me also."

Scoundrel!

(Message edited by anchored on November 18, 2006)

(Message edited by anchored on November 18, 2006)

jackrussell
11-18-2006, 04:02 PM
Factnet quiz of the year! The first 20 winners will be eligible to give the mystery character a great hawaiian punch!

Can you name the character of the famous Beatle song of 1965,

He's a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
singing lots of nowhere songs for nobody

Contestants, start your engines!

saved_21570
11-18-2006, 04:14 PM
OOhh I know I know, Tony!

I won right?

jackrussell
11-18-2006, 04:33 PM
Yes, but no last names please, remember the Alamo, er, I mean slander. Was that a punchline? Well foukes, we got got plenty of punches left for the paunchy one.

For the next winner its an uppercut, then, a left hook, but then finally from our absolute Mediator, the Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, the STRAIGHT RIGHT HAND!

bill_l
11-18-2006, 09:53 PM
Alan Here;
Suggestion to everyone. Phony has started forums on several of us on Topix, those he is really <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font> at. It would behoove you to check on yourselves.
address should be like this:

www.topix.net/forum/city/st-petersurg-fl (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/st-petersurg-fl)

obviously substitute the name of your city hyphen 2 letter state abreviation.

I have gone to my city and started a forum called Tony Alamo of Alamo Ministries is a PEDOPHILE. I have been posting cult history and testimonies there.

Lots of action going on in Fouke. I really feel for the residents of that town. They are being put thru the wringer.

jr7global
01-16-2007, 06:51 PM
If any one is interested, Glenn Beck on CNN is doing a special on Religious Extremest, they did a segment on the abotionist that kill in the name of God, you can email your views at glennbeck@cnn.com

carolfryer
01-16-2007, 07:02 PM
I only found one bill that was labeled Billy levy, but it only had one post in it that said testing. lol If you found anymore can you give me the name of them and their location.