Has anyone seen these people

[mimi]

nikki rodreguez,dorthy curry,cynthia reid(the 2nd)ann mann,tony way and wife,or the deckers,micle and kristine?

[raining]

Who are you?

[raining]

Who in the Decker family are you asking about?

I know where several of the people you've asked about are, but I don't know who you are.

Sue B

[mimi]

im miimi,who are you?

[wilma]

Mimi,
by asking who you are, I think she means when did you come to the Alamo group? who are you related to? what is your real name? are you friends with antavia or live near her?

Nobody I speak to has ever heard of miriam radelie, so we're just curious.

Were you at the alamo group when I was there?
Susie G

[mimi]

im just asking if anyones heard from those people,yes i used to be in the group,no its not my real name

[wilma]

Mimi,
Thanks for being honest. Yes, I am in touch with some of those people. I don't know where Cynthia Reid is though, sorry. Hopefully, maybe she will stumble across this message board someday and maybe you can connect with her.

Michael and Kristine, the Decker's, and Dorothy Curry all live in Ft Smith and should be easy to locate.

Best of luck to you.
SG

[raining]

Mimi - I lived in the Alamo foundation for almost 20 years. I left the alamo foundation in June of 1989, but stayed a loyal supporter of Tony Alamo until about June of 1997. I testified for Tony at his tax evasion case, while my son, Jason, who Tony Alamo commanded to be beaten 140 times with the board of education, testified against tony alamo about the brutal beatings he received while living in the alamo foundation.


For years after leaving the Alamo foundation I never spoke evil of Tony or told anyone about the polygamy, because after all I was convinced Tony was the Prophet of God.

The Lord really dealt with me and showed me how much He loved me and He died for me to live a blessed life. I started thinking for myself.

I had to line things up with the Bible. It was very hard for me to admit that Tony Alamo lies.

I knew for a fact that he had several wives and lives a polygamist lifestyle. In the courtroom I heard Tony Alamo invoked the 5th admendment when asked if Lydia was his wife. (I knew Lydia almost all of her life, since her sister Lynda got saved and her mother Ruth brought her to services, she was a young girl at the time). I knew she was Tony's wife and had given birth to his child Tabor.
If polygamy is so right - why is tony lying about it and saying that he only has 1 wife. I knew all of Tony's wives at the time of the Memphis court case. I knew Sharon - she was my baby christian, I knew Lydia, her sister Lynda was my dear friend, I knew Angel, I worked with her mon Suzanne Streit at TCB, I knew Lizzy and Jeanne, I was their 5th grade school teacher. Lizzy's dad, Bruce G - I worked with him everyday and he was a good friend to me. Jeanne's mom & dad, Joe & Lenore were dear friends to me.

So why all the lies tony?

Why lie about all the child beatings tony? Too many victims and witnesses have found their voices and are no longer afraid of you.

[raining]

Mimi
How did you find factnet? I came across it almost 2 years ago. Nikki R was posting on this site back then. That was really the first time I ever publicly said anything about Tony Alamo beating the foundation children on Georgia Ridge outside of Dyer Arkansas and also about all of his wives.

Take care,

Sue B

[mimi]

i looked up tony alamo and ran across factnet,does justin remember that horrible beating?how old is he now?i know for a fact that tony has more than one wife,ive never heard him deny it either,it seems he wont deny it but he doesnt want to admit it either,however he does deny beating children,was it tony who acctually did the beating?or some other person?what if tony didnt even tell anyone to beat him,what if someone said tony wanted him beat but he really didnt? im just curious

[no_stoppin_me]

Mimi,

I was raised in the Alamo "church" and I personally saw with my own eyes Tony beat children. I did not just hear about it from other people.

I also was in the Spec House several times when Tony was out of town and would call in and talk to the kids on the speaker phone & listen to the reports & then tell the brothers how many swats the child would get with the "board of education" as he called it. He would listen on the phone while the child was screaming & begging them to stop.

One time, a friend of mine was getting beat so bad that he actually urinated on himself. The brothers told Tony & Tony said that he obviously didn't "receive" his reproof and to start all over.

I only say these things because I saw them myself. I have absolutely nothing to gain by lying. I am not being paid by the Catholic Church, the Jesuits, the FBI, the CIA, the Cult Awareness Network or any other organization that Tony would like to think all ex-members are involved with.

These things did happen. If you never witnessed it, then you are lucky, but that doesnt mean that it didnt happen.

[wilma]

Mimi,
as a matter of fact, on his radio program Tony does repeatedly deny having more than one wife.

He is such a pathological liar!
SG

[jackrussell]

Heavensangel,

I get what you are saying, 'how could it be so that wonderful things could happen in an ungodly environment.' Such as the glory of God, salvation, born again experience, anointings, healings. Well, it took a lot of us a long time to come to terms with this kind of confusion. Putting it succinctly, 'the wheat need grow up with the tares' and does a fountain send forth both blessing and cursing? Yes, for awhile. But, brethren these things ought not so to be. The wonderful works did not happen because of Tony Alamo, they happened in spite of him....my 2cents G

[wilma]

Mimi,
In response to your question about Justin Miller. He was 11 years old when he was brutally beaten so, of course, he would remember it. I'm sure it traumatized him for many years. His adopted mother, Carol Danielle-Miller-Landgarten stood there consenting to Tony's orders via speakerphone to have him beaten 140+ swats. Tony was in Saugus in the house next door giving the orders while Justin was being beaten . He was TOTALLY aware of what he was ORDERING to be done to Justin. He wanted as many people as possible there to watch, including children 3-15 years old, so that it would instill FEAR of Tony into them...knowing that if they stepped out of line in any way they could be tony's next victim.

Tony is an evil evil man.
SG

[raining]

Any of the foundation kids can tell for a fact that papa tony ordered the beatings and the number of swats each child was to be given. When Tony Alamo called and it was "kid report" night - almost all the kids were brought over to the spec house in the middle of the night and listen to every report read to tony via the speakerphone. Then they all sat and listened as tony decided how many swats the child would get, and heard the names of the holders that tony appointed and who tony appointed to be the swatter. The room was full of kids, their parents and other adults that witnessed these brutal acts of child abuse and heard tony alamo order them via the speakerphone.



Tony has said on numerous radio broadcasts that he is married to only 1 women. He also denies beating any children.

I'm sure chuch, april, carlos, miguel, elishah, Jason would testify to the fact that Tony Alamo is a child abusing monster. Who likes to inflict pain on others while he sits and listens. Tony didn't just stop at the children. He started having adults smite each other. Does that still go on there?

[heavensangel]

mimi,kristine and micheal are not together any more,kristine dumped him for a voodoo preist,it happened about a month ago.

[no_stoppin_me]

Heavensangel & Mimi post from the same ip address, anyone notice that? And yet, heavensangel answers a question posted by mimi??? Whats up with that???

[anchored]

Very suspicious. Thanks NSM for pointing that out. Why can't people just be sincere, instead of being deceitful??? If they're being cautious because of Tony, i.e., hiding out, I'm sure the PERVERT and his camp could also figure out that they have the same identical ip address.

Like you said NSM, "What's up with that???" Maybe somebody can offer an explanation.

[heynow]

they are sharing the same computer

[no_stoppin_me]

That is obvious, heynow. The point I was making is that mimi asked a question & heavensangel answered the post. What would be the reason to do that?

Neither one has posted anything today, hmmmm.....

[anchored]

I think what she meant was, what's up with using the same computer and having a question and answer dialogue amongst themselves? Something's "rotten in Denmark," or, at the least, disingenuous, not straightforward, since it's obvious now they were trying to leave the impression that they were at separate locations and PCs.

[anchored]

LOL. No_stoppin_me, I guess we were on the same train. Both posted at exactly the same time. Now that was a coincidence.

[heavensangel]

her name is hillary,she uses my computer,how was i soposed to know she calls herself mimi? i told her about that today.ha ha

[modesto]

Not sure I'm going for that one.

[heavensangel]

i realy dont give a s***.

[wilma]

Antavia, You have to admit that you and mimi/hillary posting from the same computer looks a little odd (especially since neither of you mentioned that you had anything to do with each other) and people are just inquisitive about it. We've had several of Tony's worshippers come on here and pretend to be someone else. There's no need to get uptight about it.

I think we should give antavia and mimi the benefit of the doubt and continue our dialog with them. They have posted a lot of good questions and seem to want to really know what is going on.
SG

[alanb]

NSM and Modesto and Anchored
Have to agree with ya'll. I think this is a new Alamo tactic, just to aggrevate. I wouldn't waste time with either one of them.
After all the LIES and deceptions posted by Heavens Angel, on another thread today she says she still has three sisters there, and seems concerned about their welfare. But she has also posted that TA never did all the atrocitites we know he did.
She and Mimi are the liars here.............
Nice try TONY............gettin desperate, Huh!

[anchored]

AlanB, I totally agree.

[alanb]

Funny,
I just got an e-mail from an old friend of Bill's who I have become friends with also. I was telling her about some of Bill's history, and gave her links to Factnet. She is reading it as we speak, and without mentioning their names, she opicked up on HeavensAngel and Mimi, and said she thinks they are "moles". This, from a total stranger to the Alamo cult and it's history!

[anchored]

I agree. There are too many inconsistencies in their speech. One time they seem to be concerned for the welfare of their sisters and the next time they defend Tony Alamo. I think that it's just Tony's futile attempt, once again, to play all of us like a violin. You'd think he'd know by now that he "ain't" gonna get away with that. He's pretty stupid, or as you say, "getting desperate."

Another thing, they come here as being so righteous and use a name like "heavensangel" and then come in and use swear words. Sounds like MR. PEDOPHILE himself, Tony Alamo.

[worm_can_opener]

that TITLE, "heavensangel", I don't know, it was a little too "HOLY","SMOKESCREEN", AND "FACADE" for me... remember the song we used to listen to, back in the early 70's, all the time ?? ;"you're no earthly good, you are no earthly good, you're so heavenly minded, you're no earthly good" sung by some hill-billy- sounding group ? for the FIRST time, EVER, I felt a severe personality clash with someone else, over the internet. I have never before felt that, other than with people who I have met or known, face to face. I tried to be nice,(really !) after realizing I had come on too strong,I apologized, and still got the cussing, name-calling, put-downs,"you people salutation",sticking up for the devil(you know, toe-knee ugh-LAME-ohhhh) the unfounded accusations against all of us, the unbridled hatred of Susie Groulx (who other than the preaching pedophile would they have gotten that from ??) Susie has been like ten thousand billboards, spread out over the country, exposing the world hyocrite !! all he feels is contempt for her, and it sound as if he must go on, unceasingly, with RANTS, amongst his minions, against the outspoken Suuuzzzeeee GREW !! WOOOOOO (LOL) shame on you, Gruesome, get in the corner !!!!! how COULD you say such things about a 72 year old pedophile, who rapes, molests, tricks 7 year olds into joining a harem, beats up children and adults, with boards and (I have heard, HORSEWHIPS, also) steals matresses from Katrina victims, has a bunch of teenage and young wives (but no marriage certificates) lies, constantly, blasphemes God, by anointing himself with the pompous title...(toot toot toot) WORLD PASTOR (he's such a preposterous JOKE !!!!) Worm

[heavensangel]

i never said i was concerned about my sisters welfare,somebody posted to me that my sister is living in tonys house,i simply said,all 3 of my sisters live there,and so what? i dont care,even if i did care im there sister not parent,i cant take them away from the church,ok?
heavens angel isnt a sighn of rightiousness,its just a name i thought up,i defend tony not becouse i think im rightious,but because ive never seen the s*** happen that you say happened.
once again tony has nothing to do with me being on here,he doesnt give me orders,im not in the curch,hello? i thought i mentioned that.
you expect me not to get mad? you all have the right to tell me your oppinions about how you feel about tony,but when i say something,one thing in defense,you jump all over me,and critisize me for my language.i have the right to speak just like you.
worm,dude/chic,whoever you are back off.
ancord give me a ******* break!
im not getting on this site anymore.mark this

[modesto]

Oh well please take care that the door doesn't swing back and bump you on the way out.

[anchored]

No, you give me a break! We're supposed to believe anything you say?

heavensangel posted Saturday, Aug. 4, 2007 -
"who said i left?nobody said i left."

heavensangel also posted Saturday, Aug. 4, 2007 -
"tony doesn't know im on here, im not there any more, these are my own words."

Mind games!! Who ya tryin' to kid???

[heynow]

Just some kind helpful pointers for current foundation members posting here:
If foundation folks post here use a different computer for each username.
Also, please refrain from vulgar language on the board. It really is distracting and it really does not help your argument.
Another thing is it would be nice if you would explain in detail the benefits of living in the foundation.

Peace
Heynow

[pacanfouke]

You know Heavensangel really has a filthy mouth to have come out of a place where it was religiously serene with a holy pastor. Shame on you!

[wild_dream]

pacan, I would like to meet you some time. I've read your posts on here and on topix for a long time. I appreciate your maturity, discernment, sincerity, and concern. Lord bless you, Bill Wilde

[pacanfouke]

We'd have to do it secretly. Tony probably has a hit out on me by now. It is just appalling to me that he thought he was going to come into Fouke and do the things he's trying to do. The people in there that want out and cant because of he's threats of their salvation. He's a spinless, old, has been of a preacher. And as I always like to remind him , he's message is weak. - PACA

[wild_dream]

my mail is, billraywild@yahoo.com, it would be good to chat.

[exmember10]

Did Nikki R leave the foundation? Just woundering, she caused me some personal pains under the directions of Tony. If she did I think I can truly forgive her. I'm new to this board but I can truly relate.

[wilma]

Welcome exmember10,

Nikki R left the Foundation many years ago. Seems she was still a supporter of Tony and polygamy for quite some time even after she left. If you go to the bottom thread OLD POSTS you will see many things she posted under the user name Nikifly. I think she no longer supports tony now. I heard that her daughter, Jamie, got out of tony's house sometime last year. I bet she would be sorry now for causing you pain under tony's directions. A lot of people obeyed tony thinking they were following orders from God. What delusion.

so you must have left quite a long time ago, right? I hoope you have support from family or friends. How did you hear about Factnet?

I hoope you will continue to post and tell of your experiences at the group. were you born and raised there? Did tony speak evil to you?

SG

[exmember10]

Wilma, Thank you so much for the warm welcome.

Good for Nikki R, although I am very surprised to hear she left, it gives me a bit of courage. She testified in my custody hearing and said all kinds of false things about me. There were about five sisters in my custody hearing each just saying unbelievable staff. Susan S was one of them as well. That woman is simple a space case. I was only in the foundation for about four years. I joined in the early 90’s and left on Dec. 1998.

I just sent my son off on the plane last Sunday because I only have joint custody right now. I’ve been crying every night since he left. This happens every time he has to go back. I was just online looking for something to help me when I go back to court for custody. I am not giving up no matter what they put me through.

[joe_n_bama]

wilma i thought my sister was with tony but my wife said she studys with those 7 day people or some group like that we saw a bunch of those papers about tony on her table and a bunch of litrature about van buran ark thats what made me belive she was with them hey thanks for helping me with info do you think that compound in moffet has alot of people and exactly how do ya get there i 40 over the bridge or i think its off wheeler its ben a long time since i have ben to ft smith we used to live on blair ave and before that we lived in cabana estates mobil home park in VB back in the late 80s thanks