Tommy amp Susan Scarcellobs Testimony [Archive]

saved_21570

08-03-2007, 06:43 PM

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REVIST THESE TESTIMONIES FROM TOM AND SUE SCARCELLO. IF ANYONE HAS A COPY OF THE ARTICLE THAT TELLS OF THEM SELLING THE KATRINA DONATIONS FOR PROFIT, PLEASE POST IT.

Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 1:28 am:

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To the general public,
I have heard some of the false, warped, twisted 360 degrees, opposite of the truth accusations being spued out by these false reprobate human beings on the internet. Thier false statements have been proven to be false for years. However, Tony Alamo is guilty of the following truths: Tony Alamo with Susan were used by God to start the Jesus movement throughout hte world today. Winning millions of souls, Tony Alamo feeds, clothes, and helps anyone who sincerely needs it both with the needs of this world and the spiritual light and understanding of the Lord Jesus Christ. Tony Alamo is guility of not prefering himself before others, living a selfless life. Tony Alamo is guility of the seeking the Lord continually for His leading, guiding, and direction. I was Born again at the Tony and Susan Alamo foundation on May 1, 1970, 35 years ago where I found Christ, the peace that passes all understanding. I was taught by Tony and Susan Alamo
how to reach God through prayer and how God talks to us through the Word of God (KJV of the Bible) which is God.

I was raised by Tony and Susan to go to this lost world and bring the Gospel to them so they could be saved. I would like to address these lies. From the time I was saved I was told the rules were no guns, knives or weapons of any kind, no drugs, boose, or any thing that would make one drunk. And no pornography was allowed at the church or any of their living facilities. many of the people who are posting these crazy false accusations are the very ones that broke these rules in one way or another and were asked to leave. Becoming unhappy, they joined forces with the one-world Catholic anti-Christ Roman Government to come against the true body of Christ. They became anti-Christ and are a part of the great falling away spoken of just before Jesus returns to earth. the Bible says you can lock against a theif but not against a liar. Believe the truth, for I am telling you as one who has been there for almost 36 years. Don't let Satan, the father of all liars, take your soul to Hell. You have a choice to make. The Bible says that he that wineth souls is wise. Pastor Alamo has won millions. Recently in the wake of Katrina we were directed by Pastor Alamo and were first to help and we have letters of thanks to prove it.

Tommy Scarcello

Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 1:42 am:

saved_21570

08-03-2007, 06:45 PM

Our church is an open book. We hold services every night at 8, and at 3 and 8 pm every Sunday. We've been helping people for many years. Just recently after Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, our church was the first to respond with much needed supplies to the hurricane victims who were being transported to different locations, and we have the letters to substantiate that. Also, our pastor moved quickly to provide housing facilities to those in need coming into our city and we were right there ready to serve them meals when they came in. Truthfully, the only weapons I ever saw were the ones falsely pointed at us.
Susan Scarcello

Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 2:09 pm:

saved_21570

08-03-2007, 06:47 PM

An open book?

According to Tony Alamo, if someone does not believe in polygamy, they are not saved, and they are not to be allowed in your church!

saved_21570

08-03-2007, 06:55 PM

I LIKED SUE G.'S ANSWER TO TOMMY.


Tommy Scarcello says, "Recently in the wake of Katrina we were directed by Pastor Alamo and were first to help and we have letters of thanks to prove it."

You Foundation zombies really don't get it, do you??? You don't do anything without being DIRECTED BY PASTOR ALAMO. You can't see someone that needs help and do it on your own...it's only if TA gives his okay or directs you. And Tony ALWAYS gets the glory, not God. And you all don't do anything for anyone without getting a letter in return, to commend Tony and the ministry so that you can USE it at a later date. There are ALWAYS strings attached for anything kind Alamo does. Your game is so easy to see. We've all been there and played it too, remember?

Even years ago when Sonny B and Ray Arauz pulled a women out of a burning car, they got in trouble for not giving all the glory to Tony when they were interviewed. He just couldn't stand it when he didn't get all the praise.

We are out in the 'world" and we help people all the time without being DIRECTED by Toni Alamo and without needing a wheelbarrow full of praise. It just amazes me that you can't see how deceived you are, following this pervert.

Susie G

DO YOU THINK THEY ARE STILL SAYING THAT TONY ALAMO DIRECTED THEM? CONSIDERING THE MANY FELONY CHARGES BEING BROUGHT ABOUT BY "KATRINA GATE"?}

phahrrrt_detector

08-03-2007, 09:07 PM

POW !!!
ryte n da poop-troopz kissurz

buhl-zi Sue G n Tom A
u b bahtin em
ryte owt da pahrk !

cuz we dont wunt 2 4git !!!
Phahrrrt_detecter

heynow

08-03-2007, 10:45 PM

Congratuuuulashuns fart man. U haz dun it!!!! u haz don rittun a post wisssout mentishunin U know who. I knowwed U could doit if u jus tried. u got a long way fum dat dere record seees you mentchunnned "U know who" on all dem udder posts but, ahs has to give proper sinse u done posted one at leees. Keepumcommin.

BS detector

worm_can_opener

08-04-2007, 03:15 AM

Tommi and Sue,
after reading that hoax, I just HAD to respond. So toni feeds and clothes and helps anyone who sincerely needs it??? tommi, you KNOW that toni always had us eating food that was discarded from grocery stores, that's why all the years of R.G.B.'s, we sometimes ate ROTTEN FOOD. Connie H. was eating a box of crackers one time,in the dispatch room, and when she got to the bottom of the box, there was a big grey RAT, with a LONG, PINK TAIL, curled around it !! we always had to SMELL the MILK, because it was like water with cottage cheese in it, half the time. I was afraid to eat the food that was sent to the jacket-production room, ( the old alamo restaurant bldg. ) because I got food-poisoning from it, 3 times !! when you had us working on your "potato machine", at the C.B., the potatoes were so raunchy, it looked like yellow mashed potatoes were oozing out, and maggots were all over our hands, and they were sent to our houses, to be used for food, once you had sold the rest. As for your idol, toni, clothing us... HAH !! he was so cheap that he had YOU, tommi, go out and buy the brothers ORANGE PATENT LEATHER DRESS SHOES, and you bought the sisters all those pairs of giant stove-pipe pants (2 of us could have fit into 1 pr.) Is that what you refer to as the "needs of the world being supplied ??" LOL you said toni is GUILTY of not preferring himself before others, and living a SELFLESS LIFE !!! tommi, you must have LOST your everloving mind- toe-knee is the most self-absorbed, narcissistic beast, so completely self-centered, that he sneers down his snout at all other human life. He's a tight-fisted, money-grabbing, greedy, SLAVE DRIVER !!! get REAL, tommi ! toe-knee is "guilty of seeking the Lord continually, for his leading, guiding and direction" ??!! the only leading , guiding and direction toni knows of, is when he tries to direct lots of little girls to his " bed of polygamy " how can you LIE like that, tommi ?? just call a spade a spade, o.k. ?? you say toni doesn't allow pornograhy- the things toni DOES with all those girls IS PORNOGRAPHY...hello ??? every word you said was dictated by the world pedophile, anyway ! when we read " you joined forces (meaning us) with the one-world catholic anti- christ Roman government " who do you think you are fooling, anyway ?? those were, are, and will be the words of toni alamo,( til the LORD puts an everlasting END to that foul, raping, disgusting pedophile !!) who blames every thing imaginable on the catholic church. you are not dealing with any dumb clucks here, tommi, but people who know your whole story, and toni's whole story. you obtained donated mattresses, meant for hurricane victims, from tempur pedic, and sold them, instead, to make your master richer- you are being sued by that company- so don't try and do the "big playoff", tommi.

heavensangel

08-04-2007, 06:38 AM

tony is a wonderful person,the reson you people(SG)hate him is because of the lies that you heard about him,so you pass the lies on to others and they pass them on,and,like he said,twist them 360%,ive been in the church my entire life and i used to stay at his house,he considered me,"the worst child in church history" but i promise you i have never been beat,neither has any other child there,if so prove it!otherwise shut up!
Antavia Reid

worm_can_opener

08-04-2007, 07:00 PM

antavia reid,
like mother/ like daughter !! LOL. get a life, why don't you ? you know good and well what toe-knee's all about,( especially if you really lived there with the sex-slaves ). toe-knee the pedophile dictated every word to you, didn't he ?? you don't have to waste any more of your life, licking that scumbag's boots- and trying to lie to us, just pack up your few material possessions, go to the door, wave, and say "bye, everybody !!!!" a LIFE is waiting out there, for you to take possession of (just think !!, doesn't that sound heavenly ?? of course it does.
Worm Can Opener (free as a bird, since 12/22/92) no more false profit trying to control every move I MAKE)

heavensangel

08-04-2007, 07:23 PM

nobody dictates my every move,and you dont even know my mother,my mom is like you people,im not.
god wants you to serve him with all your heart mind body soul and strenght,not to be "as free as a bird" you obviously dont read the bible,jesus sacrificed his life for us,so we could have a chanch to make it to heaven,if your "as free as a bird" theres no sacrifice,and your lost. i dont worship tony,im just saying wheres the proof? there is none. i know the truth and the truth makes me free.john 8:32
and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

mimi

08-04-2007, 09:34 PM

my little sister is 18 now,she has been living at tonys house since she was about 9,and she has never been touched by tony,not once,
also when i was about 11,tony wanted me to go to his house,when i got there he asked me,not forsed me,but asked me if i wanted to stay and live with him and all the others,i said yes,i wasnt forced to say yes,i said it on my own,i didnt stay long because i got in trouble for somthing,i didnt get beat,tony just sent me home,so i dont believe tony forces girls to do any thing,anyone can leave whenever they please,nobody in the church is forced to do any thing.and nobody gets beat.
children do get corrected by thier parents for wrong doings,nobody gets beat bloody.
my mom used to hit on my 5 yr old sis in her stomache and elsewhere,but when tony found out he took the kids away from her,for theyre safty,tony loves kids,not in a perverted way either!

mixter1

08-04-2007, 11:13 PM

Tommy,
To quote you "I have heard some of the false, warped, twisted 360, etc." 360 degrees putt's
you back at where you started. You must be tail spinning, I feel pity for you. You side track allot. Watch that tail spin I say. Get a GED and take some Math. I guess full moons affect some people. It's like you are being driven. You should be the pastor there. Not Tony I mean it. Your testimony seemed real to me. Tony sounds like he is making all that stuff up.

worm_can_opener

08-05-2007, 01:14 AM

antavia,
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FREE" Jn.8:32. "If the son therefore shall make you FREE, ye shall be FREE INDEED" Jn.8:36. "As FREE, and not using your LIBERTY for a cloak of maliciousness, but as the servants of GOD" ( NOT toe-knee) I peter 2:16 yep, we are free, and loving it, are you jealous or something, because toe-knee has brainwashed you into thinking you have to LIVE THERE in the tony alamo church ?? and what makes YOU a judge of what we are doing, now that we are "tony alamo escapees" ?? are you saying we don't win souls ? that we are backslidden, just because we are not OWNED by toe-knee the pedophile, anymore ?? if so, you need to open your mind a lot wider, and realize there are millions of Christians in this world- they don't need to be under the evil influence of toe-knee- but GOD (remember HIM ????)

modesto

08-05-2007, 02:03 AM

Mimi,

Many years ago a very nice lady we called "Granny Cook" lived in the Alamo Foundation when Susie was still alive.Granny got in trouble one day when she said over the pulpit in Saugus that she had gone somewhere "After I asked Susie's permission."Granny was I think in her late 70's or early 80's then.She innocently let the cat out of the bag about the oppressive nature of our lives there, by revealing she had to ask Tony or Sue's permission to go places(it was true but we weren't supposed to talk about it in public).

I'm afraid you may be in hot water now for much the same reason.If I understand you properly,your mother had her children taken from her by Tony Alamo?Regardless of the reasons you give , the fact that Tony Alamo can take somebodies children away from them is really, really weird.Who the heck is Tony Alamo to take someone's children from them for any reason?!You sound like a nice person to me,Mimi, I hope you don't get punished too badly for this.

heavensangel

08-05-2007, 02:14 AM

worm can opener,tony is not my god,or master,nobody says you have to live in his church or your backslidden,thats not true,im not defending tony because i worship him,ive been there my whole life,you probably have never even been there before,i dont know,but i have never been beat or abused or raped or heard of any one else going through that,i believe they are a bunch of twisted things to make tony look perverted,when in reality all he cares about is the lord.if all that is true then why didnt they go to the cops?nobody ever answered that yet,but it doesnt matter what i say,you will only come back with your little childish sarcastic remarks,so bye!
A R

modesto

08-05-2007, 02:45 AM

Unfortunately,one of the prices we pay for the protections afforded us under the American legal system is that the guilty can and do go free all the time.That's just the ones who the prosecutor thinks she/he can build a case against(getting admissible evidence to prove their case sufficiently is very often difficult if not impossible and if they try just anyone they'll get in big trouble for wasting the taxpayers' money on unwinable cases).Most of the guilty never go to trial.The Mob,other organized criminals including crooked corporations,politicians and the like depend on this problem for their wicked livelihoods.So do crooked evangelists and cult leaders like Jim Jones and David Koresh.Not having absolute proof that can be taken in to a court of law is certainly no evidence at all of innocence.

Thank God that to counteract this sad price we pay for freedom, the freedom to speak freely is also afforded us!!That's what goes on in here.

jackrussell

08-05-2007, 06:36 PM

Whats strikes me as amazing is the Scarcello testimony, as of being frozen in time. This is a microcosm of all of us. Whether we stayed 3 years or 30 years, the tree remained fallen where it laid, until the time when the tide turned and we began to come to terms with the guise we were all under. True, it is shocking to realize what you thought, felt and lived was so right, is soooo WRONG! Giving up your will to such mediums and familiar spirits, the likes of Tony and Sue just gets harder to loose as vast amounts of time goes on (see testimony of T. Scarcello). But in the name of Jesus, you must be loosed!

Now, as being on the outside looking in, thank God, it is objectively difficult to comprehend how Alamo followers could still be deceived in view of the progressive atrocities and speech Alamo has committed. But understand, we all had our part as 'members' on the inside looking out in a very hypnotic trance because we put our eyes upon flesh and believed their every word, and became frozen in time. Sadly, there is nothing we can all do or say that won't go over the head of any Alamo follower, because the trance of heavy deceit keeps them from seeing the forest thru the trees. But we keep trying, because we truly do care for their souls. So pleeease, ALL ALAMO SUPPORTERS,AND SYMPATHIZERS, with the freedom of internet access and capability, do some research on the profiling, characteristics and personalities of reknown sexual predators, and some maybe not so reknown. I have found that the 'mentor' of Jim Jones, that of 'Father Divine,' reminds me a lot of 'papa Tony...my 2cents, .. G

worm_can_opener

08-06-2007, 12:04 AM

Jackrussell,
thank you. I, personally, needed to be reminded of that. Right after raid # 2, (the 1991 raid), when toe-knee caused all of us to flee from our homes, because of his failure to pay taxes (and of course, blaming US for the government seizing our many homes) We went to Lufkin, Tx. and stayed in the trailer of a couple who had been kicked out(still there, in the perv's org.,such a shame) the mother of one of them kept on prodding us, for information on toni alamo ( before all this polygamy and perversion) ALL OF US had been trained for YEARS to immediately counter all innuendos and slightest inkling of any accusation against toni, and, of course, Susan Alamo also,from the time we joined up. this did not happen overnight, we were taught, programmed, and indoctrinated, to INSTANTLY come back with "toni-exonerating-answers".(cover-ups) apparently, my ex-husband secretly told the mother what toni was REALLY all about, even told her,on the phone, years later, about the polygamy !! her daughter and son-in law were HIDING toni's polygamy
from her) All 3 of us, who justified tony, thought that we were doing the right thing, back then... what we were doing, much to my regret, was LYING to her mom. deceitfulness is just another form of lying, and that's ALL THERE IS TO IT !!! her mom THANKED my ex-husband, when he told her about the polygamy, and said; "you are the only one, out of the four of you, who was honest with me, concerning toni" it made me feel like a lying creep. it's good to do a little reflecting, on the way it used to be-that way we can sympathize with the ones that he's fleecing right now. No matter what individual trip we were on, it all falls under one category: sticking up for the devil. worm can opener

modesto

08-06-2007, 02:34 AM

LOL,

Foundation slang remembered:VIs=Vain imaginations,tripping,going off on tangents.

Yingyanging=indecisiveness.

Roopdoopshootminthegroup=Punish him/her for an infraction of the rules.

Fumalakachumba or main fuma=Boss.

Rgbs=Profoundly uncomfortable gastrointestinal distress characterized by nausea,abdominal cramping and malodorous oral flatulence.

Now we got a new one.

Tia's=Tony-exonerating-answers.

Good one WCO!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

modesto

08-06-2007, 02:39 AM

Scuse me that's"Tea's" sorry.

no_stoppin_me

08-06-2007, 03:06 AM

We should all remember what it was like those first few days, weeks or even years (for some)that you we were out of the cult.

The questions we had to ask ourselves, "Did I do the right thing by leaving?","Am I going to hell?", "What if T&S were right?", "Will I become 7 times worse, like T&S said?" "How will I make it out in the "world of sin?",etc. etc.

It takes time before you finally realize, that you did indeed make the right decision and that there is nothing like real freedom, both mentally & physically.

Heavensangel, I too, used to run up to "Papa Tony" and "Grandma Susie", a child is so innocent & trusting. We didn't know the evil that really was going on. It was all we knew.

It is sometimes hard for people to realize that they have been duped or lied to, especially if you have given 20 plus years of your life to something. We don't want to face it, so we sometimes find excuses for it or talk ourselves into believing that it "wasn't really that bad" or even worse, "defend it".

We were all there at one time, so lets not "pounce" on somebody that may be in that same place right now. All we can do is hope that in time (their own time), they see the truth about TA.

saved_21570

08-06-2007, 05:24 AM

I also, have been thinking the same thing. I just posted on another line how I defended Tony.

To repost part of it:
" There was a time my whole assignment for a few months was calling into talk radio programs across the United States.
I told what I thought was the truth. That sure we believed in spanking, but no one was ever beaten bloody. I was mainly a tree crew brother, so, I guess I was a pretty convincing witness. The problem is, I was not an actual witness at all."

I have nothing personal against Tommy Scarcello. Having said that, he has been an insider on alot of shady dealings for a long time, so his name is bound to come up.

I hope Tommy and Sue see the light. Tony will defend and hide him, up to a point, because Tony is on the line too. If the going gets too hot though, LOOK OUT!, Tony will throw him to the wolves if it will save his neck.

raining

08-06-2007, 03:04 PM

Tay Tay - I don't know if you still go by that nickname. You were so tiny when you and your mother came to the foundation. Did she ever tell you about the 1st brother she married inside the foundation? Freddie Bell was a good guy and loved the Lord. After Freddie died your mother married Al Reid.

You may not know about the children who were beaten bloody by the command of Tony Alamo but I do and so do many others who have left the Alamo foundation.

I got saved at the T & S Alamo Christian Foundation back in the early 70's. I didn't get saved by Tony or Sue. I cried out to the Lord from my heart and HE heard me and saved me and has kept me by His mercy all these years.

My sons, Jason & Jared were both beaten by the command of Tony Alamo. At Tony Alamo's tax evasion court case in Memphis, Jason testified about the beating he received ordered by Tony Alamo.

Jason was suspended spread eagle in mid-air, a brother holding each on his limbs and Bob Streit had the board of education and beat him bloody. Yes Tony alamo ordered 60-70 swats and then as they neared the end of the beating, tony alamo ordered another 70 swats. Jason was beaten bloody, Justin Miller was beaten the same way. Many of the foundation children were beaten by tony alamo's command.

Sue B

raining

08-06-2007, 03:06 PM

Here is parts of an old post that was posted by Becca Sue Levy: Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005

My name is Rebecca Sue (Levy) Gay. I was born February 26.

When I was two my family was moved to Arkansas. The first few years of my life are kind of uneventful. I do remember my dad having to leave in the middle of the night for night watch. Also, I remember my parents being called to Tony and Susies house in the middle of the night because of reports.

I remember when I was 5 and in kindergarten in Dyer, Arkansas (1980) Tony and Susie would make frequent visits to the school. Tony was our principal. I remember his paddle. It was big and had holes drilled in it. I was told the holes made the paddle move more air and was supposed to make it sting more, which was the goal. I remember TONY ALAMO, himself coming and beating kids severely for everything from talking back to a teacher, to bad grades (C's, D˜s and Fs), to lying or cheating on tests. I think it was at that time when I consciously realized I was not safe. I saw other kids beaten and I was terrified. In addition to being scared to death of the beatings,

I remember Carlos and Miguel getting beaten with an actual horse whip¦ I recall sitting in the cafeteria eating dinner when Erik Ondersak came back from the Spec House (Tony's mansion). We moved over for him to sit down and he physically was unable to even sit down. He was beaten so severely with a wooden board that he was unable to sit for days! I was there, I saw that with my eyes.

In 1986 and 1987 I was at the Spec House (in Arkansas) SEVERAL times when Tylon Willis, Aaron Willis, Tyrone, Benji Risha, Jarred Balsley, Jason Balsley, Katie Decker, Angela Greiner, Kimberly Ondersak, (and maybe a few others who at this moment I cannot recall) were ORDERED to be beaten BY TONY ALAMO. (they were beaten for disrupting class, making jokes during teaching time, bad grades and talking) Now when I say beaten¦ let me just paint a picture for you¦.

One large man would get on each kids limb. That's right one person holding each arm and each leg¦ For those who can't count, that means FOUR adults holding these kids, suspended in mid air, while yet another adult takes a board and beats them the number of times issued by Tony Alamo. Oh, and in case you want to know how count was kept, the kids had to count their swats and if they lost count the count would start over. Tony had a thing for the number 40.

He issued lots of 40 swats.

continued next post

raining

08-06-2007, 03:07 PM

continued from above post by Becca Sue Levy: Posted on Thursday, November 03, 200.

One night this poor black kid, who was drug into the church by his parents who were eager to serve God got beaten. He was weeping and told Tony he was sorry. Tony said that God told him Tyrone was lying and Tony said, 40 more! So poor Tyrone got 40 more swats! Tony then had Aaron and Tylons mom take Tyrone and Aaron and Tylon who were also beaten in to the bathroom and these boys had to pull down their pants. If they weren't bleeding they got more swats.

Bethany Decker who was 14 or 15 at the time started to cry because the screams and the sound of the board hitting these kids was just unbearable, Shelly Borak told Bethany Decker that if she did not stop crying she would tell ALAMO that Bethany was crying for the bad kids, and crying meant her loyalty was to them and not to God. Shelly told Bethany it would be her next.

I was there, I was personally right there when this was said and done. UNFRIKKEN REAL huh! What is hard for most people to fathom is that when Tony Alamo gave orders, they were followed. It wasn't even a matter of, Do you want to obey? you just did. Everyone obeyed. Tony controlled everything. If you needed clothing you had to ask Tony. If you needed to go t a Dr. you had to ask Tony. If you wanted to get married you had to ask Tony. If you saw someone who was not conforming completely to all of the ever changing rules you had to report them to Tony. There was a whole system for the cult to run properly, by Tony. He had everyone under his direct authority. The adults obeyed like they were little children. They never questioned Tony and they never said no. I watched grown men stand and watch other grown men literally bloody their children's bottoms and the dads would stand there and not lift a finger to help their own yelping children. WHY you ask???? Because they were conditioned to OBEY orders! Conditioned by fear, fear, and more fear, of yeah and twisted scriptural references. That also played a role in the obedience factor.

What must be established here, on this board is a pattern of Tony giving orders and people who are so brain washed they follow even the most absurd orders. Keep reading, I'll show you what I mean. Later on in 1987 (or 88) Tony really started to push his control. I believe he wanted to see how far he could go. I think he was testing the limits. He began to have the adults beaten with the same boards that the kids were beaten with¦ Pete Kortez, Pam Kortez, and several others were literally spanked. These were full grown adults, mind you. These adults were so obedient and loyal to Alamo they physically bent over and did not move while they were SPANKED by a board to the number of swats that was issued. Also, at this time Tony decided to start SMITING people. He would have them stand and not move while another person literally hit them in the face as many times as ALAMO issued. These are not rumors. I saw this with my own eyes.

I was personally smitten 4 times for asking a Bible question.
God told Tony I was mocking him by asking the question. Oh and by the way, Tony Alamo never was able to answer my question.

Everything I said is true, not hear say, not a rumor, it is 100% unadulterated truth. I can stand before God knowing that I did not lie, at all.

heavensangel

08-06-2007, 07:43 PM

prov.23:13) withhold not correction from the child:for if thou beatest him with the rod,he shall not die.
v14thou shalt beat him with the rod,and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
whatever happend to those verses?
i know i know your going to say,well the bible doesnt say to beat them bloody!
well if that did happen it was wrong and i feel sorry for the poor kids,but its not a sin to give a kid a spanking.

modesto

08-06-2007, 08:25 PM

I don't think a light tap on the hand or something is the issue.We're talking abuse with sometimes serious physical injury.No way that can be justified by the Bible or any other way.

mixter1

08-06-2007, 09:12 PM

Antavia,
Why do you think TA has them using a board instead of the rod which is like a cane and less harmful?
Why does TA hate the Pope so much when the actual
anti-christ is supposed to be jewish or one
claiming to be jewish?
Tony Alamo has been preaching against the Catholic Church for over 40 years. He says it controls goverments, the world, etc.
If what half of the things he states about it are true then why isn't he dead?
-Mix

mixter1

08-06-2007, 09:33 PM

pacanfouke

08-06-2007, 11:50 PM

Heavensangel; I am not an ex-member. I did hear Alamo on a radio broadcast #240 or #241 say " We dont even spank our children. We may take their candy away from them but thats all. We never spank them ". So I ask you does he believe in spanking or not?

heavensangel

08-07-2007, 04:31 AM

no i didnt hear those broadcasts,wher can i find them so i could here it for my self.

raining

08-07-2007, 05:40 AM

heavensangel,

I agree with you and the Bible - it is not a sin to spank a child.

What Tony Alamo ordered was child abuse and it was dead wrong.

I saw tony hold tryon d's head down on the ground with his high heel boot. Tony Alamo was grinning and smiling as he was pushing Tryon around on the ground trying to scare the daylights out of the kid.

Sue B

wilma

08-07-2007, 01:14 PM

Heavensangel/Antavia,
The child, (Tyrone Demoulin) "raining" is referring to was one of Gerrard Demoulin's children from a previous wife, Marian, (before he married Sally/Azalea).
After that beating Marian had the sense to get out of there with all her children.

Tony's demented radio programs (if you can stand listening to them) are available on his website at alamoministries.com.

Antavia, if you listen to radio show #423 you will hear your little sister, Elsandra Reid, giving a short testimony along with a bunch of Tony's "wives". You can bet, if I knew my sister was at Tony's house I'd move hell and high water to get her out of there!!! Just the thought of some kin of mine being in the home of that raping, pedophile, abuser is horrible.
SG

pacanfouke

08-07-2007, 01:39 PM

There are people in Fouke that will help anybody that wants to leave Alamo's. Anybody that does want to leave ,please dont leave your children behind. There are people that will go there and help get them out with you.

heavensangel

08-08-2007, 02:48 AM

all three of my sisters live there,and wilma why do you even listen to his tapes if you hate him so much? hmmmmm?

smitty

08-08-2007, 02:56 AM

I belive the reason is "Know Your Enemy"

modesto

08-08-2007, 07:37 AM

Paca,

There's me in California who will too.

Johnny Modesto

wilma

08-08-2007, 04:27 PM

Antavia,
I don't usually listen to his disgusting, boring, scripture twisting rants (he refers to as sermons) on his radio broadcast. Someone else listened and mentioned that a bunch of people were giving their testimonies so I decided to listen to it. I noticed that Elsandra was one of them and thought you would appreciate knowing that your little sister was in alamo's house. That would be a very big cause for concern for me if it was my sister.

Instead of showing any concern for your sister you rail on me for listening to his message? Many people have testified on this message board of the rapes and child abuse that have happened in tony's house. why are you so intent on defending tony? are you hoping to be invited back to the group?
SG

modesto

08-08-2007, 06:13 PM

I'm sort of thinking we might have people fishing in here to see just how much people actually know about who is where in the Alomite Org.That might help explain these peculiar reactions from recent posters.

alanb

08-08-2007, 06:53 PM

Pay attention to the spelling and grammer also. Some posts are perfect, and others are written like by an unschooled ignorant hillbilly, yet they have the same name.

worm_can_opener

08-08-2007, 07:00 PM

I, also have never listened to the "ranting-reprobate-radio show" I heard enough of the perv's false interpretations of every blessed thing, upon the face of the earth, for FAR TOO MANY YEARS !! why would I vex myself, by hearing the voice of that hateful, sex-obsessed, •••••, bloodthirsty megalomaniac ?? forget it !!!
worm can opener (not interested in the contents of THAT CAN !!)

pacanfouke

08-09-2007, 01:00 AM

Who you calling a ignorant hillbilly, Alan?? lol Your right Modesto, we do have you out West. There are alot of people that are willing to help people who want to leave Alamo. All they have to do is make that decision.

modesto

08-09-2007, 05:32 AM

Paca,
I assume the church in Saugus is still there and many of the Caliornia properties.If someone wants to leave from there Here I am.But that isn't all,Anyone who wants to leave Tony, I'll do everything in my power to put them up until they get back on their feet no mater where they're from. They won't be in luxury, but I'll put a roof over their heads and feed them and I won't ask for a penny in return.

exmember10

08-16-2007, 10:48 PM

I have my little guy still living in that cult. I’ve tried everything to get him out but since his father still lives there I was only granted joint custody and he spend half of his time being brainwashed. Once you get in it almost impossible to get out because you leave family and friends. I am praying for a huge wonder from GOD.

jackrussell

08-17-2007, 01:24 AM

Exmember10, you were there 10 years? Just guessing. If you have current access to the inside via visitation communiques, etc, learn and remember all you can of the layout and particulars of the different structures and grounds as all info would be helpful to the powers that be that endeavor to release any there that so desire to break free. Regards...G

exmember10

08-17-2007, 04:35 AM

I was only there for 4 years but it felt like a life time. I was a caged bird. Plus I worked like a slave doing financial staff. I tried my best to fix issues that I knew would not sit well with the IRS. and I can't believe this is the way I get repaid.

brother_d

08-18-2007, 02:24 AM

Didn't Tommy S used to set his face on fire during his stage act? This was before he began stealing mattresses from homeless people.

modesto

08-20-2007, 07:29 AM

I,m still here.

exmember10

08-20-2007, 04:09 PM

I never heard anything about Tommy S setting his face on fire while I was living with him and his wife but you never know..

modesto

08-22-2007, 02:52 AM

I'm, still here.

mixter1

08-22-2007, 03:38 AM

To quote Scarcello he denies everything by saying
"that's a 360 degree lie." Imagine him standing on the perimiter of a circle (point A). At that point 360 degrees takes the point to the very place he is standing. ha ha. Is that an Alamo? or what? A pearl of truth!
-mix

no_stoppin_me

08-24-2007, 03:01 AM

Yesterdays paper, 8/22/2007
Judgment Entered In Mattress Suit

By Wanda Freeman

TIMES RECORD • WFREEMAN@SWTIMES.COM

An area businessman with purported ties to a cult leader failed to respond to a lawsuit alleging he and others illegally sold high-end mattresses intended for donation, so a judgment as to his liability will be entered by default, a federal judge ruled last week.

Thomas Scarcello, believed to live in Moffett, was one of the original defendants named in the lawsuit, Tempur-Pedic International v. Waste to Charity Inc., filed in February in U.S. District Court in Fort Smith.

The mattress maker accused several groups and individuals of selling more than half of the 8,000 mattresses it had donated to aid people hit by Hurricane Katrina.

The plaintiff also stated that convicted felon and purported cult leader Tony Alamo is a “known associate” of Scarcello’s.

In April, Tempur-Pedic filed a second amended complaint adding Scarcello’s business, Action Distributors, as a defendant and detailing further allegations.

According to the lawsuit, Tempur-Pedic contracted with Waste to Charity, a New Jersey not-for-profit agency, to distribute its mattresses, slippers and pillows — with a stated retail value of $15 million — to charitable organizations working in storm-stricken areas.

The contract expressly prohibited selling the goods or distributing them for sale.

But Tempur-Pedic alleges in the April complaint that Waste to Charity and owner Jack Fitzgerald did sell and improperly distribute the goods. He allegedly sold 5,500 foot comforters for $7,400 and 490 mattresses for $49,000 to a warehouse in Bowling Green, Ky.

Fitzgerald also delivered 4,000 donated mattresses to Scarcello and Action Distributors, the complaint states.

Tempur-Pedic alleges that Scarcello owns or controls the same semitrailers that picked up five or six truckloads of the mattresses from Waste to Charity in Greenville, S.C., and delivered them either to his South Fourth Street warehouse in Fort Smith — where they remain parked — or to a Booneville warehouse that formerly housed the Ace Comb factory.

Tempur-Pedic’s April complaint states that the warehouse is owned by Sharon Ast-Kroopf-Hoffman and Elizabeth Mercado, both “believed to be espoused to Tony Alamo.”

Scarcello is alleged to have gone to the Booneville warehouse Feb. 5 in connection with a sale of 3,000 mattresses to an undercover operative for Tempur-Pedic. When the operative counted only 2,650 mattresses, one of the other defendants told him the missing 350 were in a warehouse in Fort Smith.

According to court documents, Tempur-Pedic filed a motion on June 28 reporting that it had attempted to serve Scarcello with a summons, a preliminary injunction and its second amended complaint on April 20, May 5 and May 10; that a warning order was issued by the clerk of court on May 22 and published in the newspaper May 27 and June 3; and that a certified mailing to Scarcello was returned “unclaimed” around June 18.

In response, the court issued a notice of default as to Scarcello.

Thursday, the court granted Tempur-Pedic’s motion for a default judgment with respect to Action Distributors’ liability in the case, stating that Scarcello as its agent had never responded or offered a defense to the lawsuit. According to Judge Robert T. Dawson’s ruling, the amount of damages will be determined at or before trial.

smitty

08-24-2007, 04:51 PM

And of course, Tony will claim that this is all part of a Vatican, FBI, CIA, Campfire Girls plot to attack him....

exmember10

08-24-2007, 06:08 PM

I worked so hard in fixing the mess with Action Distributors and Armful of Help and still they managed to mess it up again. Oh well I guess whom the Lord has cursed is truly cursed.

jackrussell

08-24-2007, 07:26 PM

Exmember10, you present a fresh perspective because you left the group just lately. When were you last there? So glad you post here.

So many of the testimonials of the rabid and violent abuse of Tony Alamo and his close associates go back before 2000, the last most notably, the 1998 beating of 4 year old Jordan, just around the time of Alamos' release from prison. He would now be about 13 years of age.

Share with us whatever you would, if you did witness any outbursts, violence, cursings, etc. displayed by TA after 2000. Just trying to establish if TA has calmed down any in his old age, or worked to keep his psychoses more under wraps or what, if any. TIA....G

raining

08-24-2007, 07:29 PM

Like father, like son - so the saying goes. How about like "leader, like follower".

Tony Alamo failed to show up in court to answer the charges of felony child abuse which had been filed against him in the Justin Miller case. Tony Alamo lost that case by default because he didn't have the courage to show his face in court because he knew he was GUILTY of that crime!

Now his follower, and devout supporter, Tommy Scarcello has done the same thing!

Tommy Scarcello has failed to show up in court to answer charges of stealing mattresses from the poor and needy. Losing millions of dollars by default!

Tommy Scarcello, you know you are guilty as charged!!!

The court documents state that Tommy Scarecello can't be found to have papers served to him?

Tony where are you hiding tommy? Canada? New York?

Tommy if you have any brains left in your head - turn states evidence and get away from tony alamo before he leaves you hanging with the whole mess.

I can hear tony now, "I never told that weasel, tommy to steal from the poor and sell those mattresses".

Tony, when it comes to the money that the brothers and sisters make and turn into you - we all know there is not one thing that is done without you knowing about it.

I worked closely with Tommy at TCB and 1 of my jobs every week was to figure out the expected income for the next week and what was being shipped and have the report ready for Tommy to read to Tony!

YOU KNEW ALL ABOUT STEALING THOSE MATTRESSES AND SELLING THEM TO LINE YOUR POCKET TONY ALAMO!

jackrussell

08-24-2007, 10:26 PM

Exmember10, forgot you had a child still inside of there, yes, as others say you do need to be careful what you say on here. You can relay any discreet messages to wilma, raining, wco. They are such trusted allies.

Sometimes, honest posters seek anonymity for obvious/various reasons such as the WPP(Witness Protection Program) and other valid issues. Only those that need be called out for identity, are troublemakers, counterfeiters, trap setters and the like. Its kind of obvious to anyone with even a lick of sense whom these might be.

saved_21570

08-27-2007, 02:37 AM

Tommy Scarcello, Sharon Ast-Kroopf-Hoffman, and Elizabeth Mercado:

Tony Alamo is leading you all into more trouble than you want to be in.

This is not the little leagues any more. If you flee and refuse to show up for court, when (not if) you are caught you will be sent away for a very long time.

Here is some council from the Lord: First, cooperate. "Agree with thine adversary quickly."

Second: Just be honest! Tell the truth. The truth will be what sets you free.

Judge for yourself. Do you really believe that God will send you to hell for telling the truth! Has your judgement become so skewed that you believe God wants you to lie, FOR HIM?

Just be honest! Tell the truth! The truth will set you free.

Who will you serve? The Truth? or the Liar?

dyann

09-25-2007, 09:28 PM

modesto
Intermediate Member
Username: modesto

MODESTO!!! ~~~ PLEASE EMAIL ME! GRANNY COOK WAS MY GRANDMOTHER!

Post Number: 136
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 70.134.107.116
Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:03 pm:

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Mimi,

Many years ago a very nice lady we called "Granny Cook" lived in the Alamo Foundation when Susie was still alive.Granny got in trouble one day when she said over the pulpit in Saugus that she had gone somewhere "After I asked Susie's permission."Granny was I think in her late 70's or early 80's then.She innocently let the cat out of the bag about the oppressive nature of our lives there, by revealing she had to ask Tony or Sue's permission to go places(it was true but we weren't supposed to talk about it in public).

I'm afraid you may be in hot water now for much the same reason.If I understand you properly,your mother had her children taken from her by Tony Alamo?Regardless of the reasons you give , the fact that Tony Alamo can take somebodies children away from them is really, really weird.Who the heck is Tony Alamo to take someone's children from them for any reason?!You sound like a nice person to me,Mimi, I hope you don't get punished too badly for this.