Emerge

[heynow]

Someone posted this youtube link here awhile back
Maybe it would be good for review and comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

[smitty]

I found it a while back. This has GOT to be the definitive guide for wannabe cult leaders. These guys pegged it on the nose

[wilma]

heynow,
Thanks for the reminder and thanks for bringing that video back to the forefront, so that any newcomers can watch it.
That is the alamo cult to a T!
susieg

[floridian]

Jesus Christ says,John 14:6,Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 15:5,I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
I know that I am and can do nothing without this Leader,Jesus Christ,the perfect Leader. John 16:23,And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
1 Corinthians 9:16, For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
I emerged out of darkness about 30 years ago when ther where some faithful witnesses on the streets passing out Gospel tracts,saying to me and others,repent or perish,oh yes those witnessers where being led by Spirit of the leader,God.I was not drawed unto salvation,by any other leader,save the Spirit of the leader,God. God is God and do not forget it.

[smitty]

Prov. 26:4

[anchored]

Floridian said:

"Church services starts in Arkansas at 7 PM,In saugus at 8 pm,you should get there about 5 minutes till,and please have it set in your heart to hear and then leave after services,say hello,you confessed that you said the sinners prayer,so now just a little fellowship then you are off back to your home,then lets talk about it,REMEMBER JOE,we all wait to hear back from you,I will speak with you later,and thank you for becomeing a Brother in the Lord as you have confessed here on this board."

[floridian]

I have never denied saying that yet there is more to that post that anchored is leaving out.read it yet anchored insists that I have done it many times,and yes it is my fruit and Yes I did exactly what God wanted me to do and he found his sister and she was not there and he thanked me for being used by God to lead him to rededicate.I know that I handeled him the way God wanted me to do,hey read the whole post.I beleive very much that anchored is very bitter that I was used,if you read his post be fore you will see how the bitterness in most of the folks on this board drove the man away they attacked this poor man that was trying to find the light,and after anchored and quite a few others seen God used me they began to attack me.It is not funny,it is your soul that you are playing with George

[d_eddy]

IGNORE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[dyann]

You are so full of yourself. Re-read that a couple times, then go pray for humility.

eight "I's" five "me's" and only one "my" MY FRUIT... waaaa, *stampiing my feet*

And no one attacked that poor man. you are a liar.

[floridian]

That is rightI have never denied that.that is right I have been accused many times,and now you are accuseing me of being a liar,Dyann,yes I am the one God used,and so on,you should find the post and then you will see how the man was attack,you are answering a matter before you find out dyann and that is folly dyann.

[modesto]

Thanks G, that pretty much met the challenge they put to you and clears it up for me.I know who I'm dealing with now (although I really did before too).

John

[floridian]

Today is the 1'st so do not forget to read Proverbs chapter 1

[anchored]

Prov. 26:4

[d_eddy]

Les wood AKA FLORIDIAN I heard your song today thougt Id play it 4 ya
OH LORD ITS HARD TO BE HUMBLE WHEN YOUR PERFECT IN EVERY WAY.
ITS SO HARD TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR CAUSE I GET BETTER LOOKIN EACH DAY.
TO KNOW ME IS TO LOVE ME I MUST BE ONE HELL OF A MAN
OH LORD ITS HARD TO BE HUMBLE
BUT IM DOING THE BEST THAT I CAN
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[fred_osborne]

Hello,everyone,I have been watching for some time now and applaud Don for his efforts and hope and pray the Lord free the people from the satanic activity of Tony Alamo.
I am not afraid to make my name known like Les Woods,I have worked with him and listened to his reasoning as well as his personal beliefs and I am sure Floridian is he.
Also I know for a fact he believes in polygamy and wishes he could be one.
I see his posts about praying people through and exalting himself under the pretense of humility.
I too witness and pray people through but don't see the profit of boasting in this forum,but rather just want to say hello and I hope everyone that is striving to serve the Lord be strengthened and those that are fallen remember that there really is mercy in the Lord and there is hope for you and I pray you find the peace of the Lord through the wonderful mercies of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,I remain your friend,Fred Osborne
P.S. I would be willing to help anyone that wants to escape Tony's evil control,I am not afraid of him or what he might want to do to me or say about me,I am set free and I praise the Living God through his only begotten son Jesus Christ for my salvation.
I know there are many people that will atack me but I am willing to address anyone with wittnesses and do all things according to the holy scriptures not someone's personal agenda,it is so sad to see so many people that the only way they know to deal with life is how Tony taught them please come out from among them and allow the Lord Jesus Christ to set you free from the bondage of lies and sin.
Remember one thing that God allowed Abraham to marry his sister and it is forbidden in the Holy scriptures,so read,study and learn the real truth before you just do the only thing you know and that is to believe Tony Alamo and his twisted doctrine,God will show you if you really want to know.

[dyann]

Don't forget:

Drop those dimes
Tony needs to do time for those crimes

Matthew Flemming, Assistant US Attorney
(479) 783-5125

[modesto]

Hi Fred,

Good to hear from you again.Hope all is well with you.

John M.

[floridian]

Fred osborne you are coming on this board,opening up with lies,I know of a fact that Les wood does not beleive,nor endorses polygamy,I know that you also tried to get him to go againest his older christian in bowling greene kentucky,you tried to get him to take jobs away from Gilbert Vincent,you were a liar and a thief then and you are a liar and a theif now,if any of you doubt what
I am saying about les wood not being a polygamist and if you doubt that fred osborne isn,t a thief and liar,call Gilbert vincent.I hope you will stop your lieng and make it to heaven, I see that you have not,so just simply repent,thats all you have to do fred,you do not have to admit to me ,Gilbert or les,you just stop your lieing and make a very serious commitment to God,do it fred do it for your own good,please,do it,and stop the lieing and just carry on,carry-on in a true christian life,fred please,do not reject your mercy,you do not have to ever talk to me again,just please make your calling and election sure.

[d_eddy]

Thats funny at one time gilbert vincent preached to me about how polygamy was right.and that was in 1994-95 somewhere in ther and les wood was all for that too from what my nefew mark blau told me. hhhhhmmmmmm

[floridian]

Well don your nephew is wrong,And I know of Les wood saying that it was wrong when we where all at a get together in texas over at Dale garris's house,it is possible that your nephew is making a innocent misstake.if you get a chance to talk to alot of brothers and sisters who do not post on this board,you might get the facts easyer,and we are people that have nothing too lose to tony,you or anyone else.

[d_eddy]

Les NAME SOME NAMES AND PHONE#S IWILL CALL ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate Things THat lerk in the dark hidden shadows.

[floridian]

your song is catching on Don

[fred_osborne]

For those that want to reach me I have setup a temporary email address so i won't be bothered by certain people.
If you write me I will send you my permanent address.
P.S. Les,I know the sinners prayer.
In fact I have prayed through about 4 people last week but that is mute,leave me alone,I have spoken the truth and you are a coward and won't address the truth but rather choose to hide behind your illusion of false salvation and care for my soul.
just last night you were calling me a liar and thief,produce your evidence or shut up,hipppocrite
my email for those that care is temporary92@yahoo.com hope to hear from you all.
Praise the Lord

[floridian]

fred you not what day it is,so you can work out your on salvation.and their is nothing wrong with prayer fred,just mocking it!

[dyann]

prov. 24: 7&8

[fred_osborne]

fred you not what day it is,,,,,,What?
Is it just me or does this not make any sense?
Floridian posted this,he got me. I don't get it.

[open_mind]

im not saying who,but there was this girl in the church who got married at 15,and had a baby boy at 16,her son was born with wat seemed to be breathing problems,she brought it to bonnies attention,(bonnie is the church mid wife)anyway bonnie said he was fine,so weeks went by waiting for an answere from tony about the problem,she finnally took her baby to the hospital as he was 4 weeks old and only gained 2 ounces since birth.as soon as she got to the hospital the doctors admitted her 4 month old to little rock childrens hospital,ans said if she would have let him go on any longer he would have died.anyway,so after about 2 months in the hospital that poor baby finnally got realesed.
tony took the baby away from the girl forsibly,saying that she was trying to kill him,and saying that her baby had those problems because of her,and that she was being cursed by god,and the baby needed to be taken from her sinful hands.
the little girl wept,saying how much she wanted,and loved her little baby and shed never hurt him,but tony had no mercy.she even said she would leave with the baby but tony threatend her with dhs.she didnt get her son back until he was 2 and a half.hes 3 now. it was one of the most cruel things i have ever seen.
(oh,and she didnt get him back because tony let her,she and her husband ended up leaving,so they took there son with them)

[open_mind]

PS.the same person had another little gir wich tony took away for the same reason as the above,even though the little girl had no problems and was very fat,tony took her away by force,then two days later for no apperent reason gave the baby girl back,but still kept the boy away from her.isnt that totally sico?
you may ask,well why didnt this 16 year old girl call the police or something,well those of you who used to be in that mind controlling place,she was made to believe it was gods will.

[wilma]

Open_mind,
There is something I would like to ask you (not on the message board).
Please email me at wilma200@gmail.com whenever you can.
I hope everything is going well for you.
SusieG

[no_stoppin_me]

Another example of the kind of control that TA has over them. He thinks nothing of taking someone else's children away and giving them to someone else to raise. This is nothing new!!

Just like Tony can make you move out of your house if it is not kept to his liking, & move someone else in it to make an example of you.

Its all about control!!!

[wilma]

Open_mind,
Former members believe you. That is so typical of stuff Tony would do. It is crazy that he has that kind of control over people's lives. It is sad that that little boy didn't get medical help right away. Even within the group the midwives should be doing extensive follow-up and assessments within days of the birth to make sure that the babies are thriving. Everyone is so afraid of getting "in trouble" that they have forgotten to be human and caring towards one another.
No matter what the health problems ever are Tony always blames the person and says it's their sins or disobedience that is causing it. That young girl must have been heartbroken to have had her baby ripped away from her and then had Tony's damnation heaped upon her too.
He is such a cruel and evil person. His judgment is coming.

[d_eddy]

d_eddy
Member
Username: d_eddy

Post Number: 98
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 4.224.213.210
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:00 pm:

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Yes it will get covered. which reminds me of the 1st time my heart stopped im sure some of you will remember I was 18 years old and working on the tree crew. I was on brad wheelers crew. we were in prattsville alabama. Tony wood ,Gordon mcgregor, jimmy mac dont talk back, marvin paineless,bill repent or parrish we all were haveing some brotherly compition Who could plant the most trees. well at 12 noon I had big woody in my back pocket but then as I went to get a drink of cold water ( boom I was out) the brothers loaded me in the van and prayed all the way to town I believe it was about a 45 min drive. The Dr came in and told me that he wanted to keep me to do more study on what would cause a 18 yr old to have a heart attack. But that they had me stabalized and no one would eccept the responcibility for the testing . thanks T.A.
All that blood sweat and tears and you wouldn't even pay for the testing .Now show me where the Love of Christ was in that whole experince?
more to come
wilma and NSM just thout this could fit in to the mercies of T.A.

[modesto]

Reminds me of some of the people who used to split then put Tony and the Foundation as a job application ref.Boy were they in for a rude awakening!

Tony is really a piece of work.

[phahrrrt_detector]

will kehp u
& yer nees Amy
n mah pray-erz
bro Don
& ahl doz
hoov suf-furd
undur da hanz
uv toe-knee

b-leevin God 4 miracles & mytee movz
Phahrrrt detecter

[d_eddy]

Thankyou Phahrrrt detecter
anyone that was around toe-knee recieved punishment: Tony wood aka woody, marvin paine aka marvelous and myself aka kid were in miami visiting the outpost for the weekend. There was a clothing show going on and tony told us. Some guy was refusing to pay for some jackets that he was at this show and gave us Instructions on how to get the jackets. woody and marv were to grab the jackets after I got the guy sidetracked. tony said to me over the phone you are not lieing when this guy is a devil. He told me to come up with a story that I was in a rock band and come up with some crazy logo for the group.
I was so brainwashed back then I thought I was
going to really be blessed for doing this.
well in the process we took some jackets that belonged to this man. I saw this man at the show in NYC and he explained it all to me . Tony begged this guy to sell the jackets and he would recieve a comission. In other words jackets to keep for sell. Tony had already been paid. the jackets we took for ta did not belong to ta they were this mans comission. I told him how sorry I was for bieng apart of that whole scene and he said dont worrie about it its not your fault but I will never do bussiness with tony again.
woody, marvin and myself were just doing what we were instructed to do. looking back now I can see why Jesus warned us :
Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
STAY AWAY FROM TONY ALAMO! DONT BE DECEIVED!!!
HE IS NOT OF CHRIST!!!!!
AND THE CONGO SAYS AMEN

[mixter1]

Thank you heynow,
To think they used Christianity. Let's face it. The material in that mpeg has been around almost forever an not just the 20'th century. Here we are several decades into our lives before we realized it. It took me almost 7 years into that place to see what they were doing. If Susan had not been honest and at least let a few words slip I would have been gone 6 years into that place. Thank the lord its the 21'st century.

[thankfull4jesus]

sicksicksicksicksicksicksick it all makes me sick