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thankfull4jesus
08-22-2007, 11:01 PM
About fore years ago why riding the greyhound bus through Texas, I met these the Jesuscrew. Thy was at a bus stop in abilene feeding anyone, praying and teaching those who would pray and lesion. They also passed out tracks. I took one and keep it tell about a year ago win I found there Email address. I emailed them and since have ben on there mailing list. They send me the best testimonials Ive ever heard and just wonted to share this with you.

Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:21 AM
From: Jose Muniz <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Club Update and something to think about.......
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Saints
Back in the early 80's I attended clubs on a regular basis......mainly during the drink specials.....
The clubs were also a good place to sell drugs.......when I got saved in 84' I started going back to the clubs handing out tracts and talking to people that come out.......many people often ask why
we don't go inside........obviously these people have never been inside a club....where the music
is going at over 100 decibels.......you would lose your voice having to yell to talk
throughout the years I've heard of church groups attending the night clubs all for just the sake of dancing and having a good time.......I know that in the metroplex area this is become a normal thing to do.......here in Abilene we have the same thing except not many attend the clubs where we're at.....maybe because
they know we're out here.........I know that many college students go to Oplin to dance which is just a watered down Midnight Rodeo......some would disagree with that but I know that if it's not about JESUS
it aint good........you have old men lusting after these young college girls....committing adultery in there
old hearts........but today the church in general has allowed alot of things to go on.....even though they are
contrary to the Gospel........millions upon millions of Church going people attend movie theaters every weekend....paying money to Hollywood......Yes! the same Hollywood that they complain about for all the nudity and blasphemy that it spues out........JESUS calls us to be in the world but not of the world and
for the most part the church is becoming more and more like the world it's suppose to be impacting........
Many will pay money to hear actors take GOD's name in vain and not even be bothered by it.......as a matter of fact.......church goers look at you weird because you see that as sinful.........and we want revival?

thankfull4jesus
08-22-2007, 11:03 PM
Did you know that there was a time when the entertainment industry was bound by a code that forbade them from using any blasphemy in a movie? The &amp;#147;Hays Code&amp;#148; stated:
Pointed profanity--this includes the words &amp;#147;God,&amp;#148; &amp;#147;Lord,&amp;#148; &amp;#147;Jesus,&amp;#148; &amp;#147;Christ&amp;#148; (unless used reverently), &amp;#147;Hell,&amp;#148; &amp;#147;S.O.B.,&amp;#148; &amp;#147;damn,&amp;#148; or every other profane or vulgar expression, however used--is forbidden.
Hollywood is no longer restricted by the code. Many of today's movies don't simply blaspheme the name of Jesus. They go one further. For example, the award-winning Blow, directed by Ted Demme, is a typical R-rated film. The name of Jesus Christ is blasphemed eleven times in the movie. Three of those times, for some reason, the "F" word is used in the middle of His name.
So, how can you (as one person), make a difference and influence the powerful Goliath of the entertainment industry? The answer is in your own hands. In 2005, roughly $8.8 billion was spent on movie tickets in the U.S. How much of $8.8 billion do you think came from those who call themselves Christians? According to The Barna Group, it was a massive $6.94 billion. Over 70% of the box office intake comes from people of faith.
With more than 170 million professing Christians in America, we have a sling that has the power to hit the &amp;#147;dark side&amp;#148; of Hollywood between the eyes and leave a deep impression on its money-making mind. Simply stop paying to see blasphemous movies and support the ones you know are good. My goal isn't to clean up movies. That will never happen unless there is a Christian revival in Hollywood. In the meantime, I just want them to stop their blasphemy. They are causing an entire generation to hate Christianity, and to use the name of Jesus Christ to express disgust. taken from the website
please watch this video clip.......The church needs to separate itself
from the world.........I pray that you will remember what the WORD of GOD says........
Psalm 101:3 (KJV)
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn
aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Psalm 119:37 (KJV)
Turn away mine eyes from beholding vanity; and quicken thou me in thy way.


Last night was the first Bible Study at the club.......we had 25 people that showed up
including a lady that we invited on Saturday night that was coming out of the club.......she said she would be back and is going to bring her daughter next week......the club owner also sat in on the study
it was good to be on the inside preaching the word of GOD......this next Saturday we'll be inviting
all the people who attend the club handing out flyers along with the tracts.......please keep this in
your prayers......love you all


Jose &amp; Amy
Matthew 6:33

thankfull4jesus
08-22-2007, 11:17 PM
Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:23 PM
From: Jose Muniz <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Finishing Strong
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Saints
Its crazy how fast the summer has been going by us......the LORD has been taking us to several places this summer Austin, Ft. Worth, Midland, Belgium, Mexico and Israel........but its not over yet.....we still have work to do.....tonight will be the first Bible study at the Club......the owner told me on Saturday night that he is planning on attending.....please keep that in your prayers.......this will be for Believers and specially the lost.....we will be handing out flyers to all the people who exit the doors of the club every weekend inviting them to come on Tuesday nights at 7:00PM at the Midnight Rodeo at the corner of South 2nd and Sycamore St. Caddy corner from the City Link Bus Station...........JesusCrew Israel is on the way
We had a great time working with Mr. &amp; Mrs. Jase (Melissa) Wilson in Haifa....we went to the beach, Malls and Streets and made a trip to Tiberias.........what a time.......it was very good........we stayed at the same hotel in Jerusalem that we were in last year and I got to share the Gospel with two of the same waiters from last year.......they actually took a Gospel tract about the coming MESSIAH!.........as we were eating dinner one night two of the waiters were talking to each other about my Tabasco sauce whether or not it was kosher.....can you believe that......after they argued for a minute one of the waiters came over to tell me that I needed to put up my Tabasco sauce.......I asked him why and he explained to me that it was not kosher........the other waiter picked up the bottle and read the back label......to his surprise(and mine too) it had a small -k- on the back....which means it was good to go........I could legally put it on my food.......thank GOD for that.......well a few days later we were eating in Tiberias and a customer complained about the Tabasco......the waiter came over and told me that I needed to put it up.......I asked him why and he explained to me that at that restraunt it was not kosher.......I them began to tell him that it had been approved by the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem(I'm just kidding).......as I was explaining to him that it had been approved in Jerusalem the customer came over and told me that the standard in Tiberias is higher than Jerusalem.......that's strange........Please keep the Team in Israel in your prayers
cus it is different there..........but the Gospel still has power to convert the lost.....even in Israel

thankfull4jesus
08-22-2007, 11:23 PM
OK....so now we're back in Abilene.......we're done with the easy stuff.........Yes......I said easy.........It's easier for Christians to do Mission work in other parts of
the world......but when it comes to doing it here in our own city..........that's a whole other ball game....please pray for laborers in America.......it seems like they all want to go around the world.....does anyone want to see Americans hear about JESUS!!!.........Is anyone hearing about JESUS through YOU?
If you live in Abilene.....we invite you to come out and preach the Gospel to the lost in our city
below you will see some places that we go to here in town

so here is the way it looks for us
Tuesday Nights 7:00PM Bible Study at the Midnight Rodeo
Wednesday Nights............................................ .................9:00PM Greyhound Bus Station.Abilene, TX
Saturdays Mall Missions.......................................... .........3:00PM................................... ....Abilene, TX
Saturday Nights Midnight Rodeo..................................11:55PM.... .................................Abilene, TX
Friday Night................6th Street.......................................10:00 pm...................................Austin, Tx
Sunday.......Iglesia Bautista.......................................... .....11:15 am...................................Wichita Falls, TX.
September 6-15...........West Texas Fair &amp; Rodeo............7:00 pm nightly.....................Abilene, TX
September 28-29th.....Way Of The Master Conference.....Holy Epidemic..................Brisbane, Australia
October 5-6th..........Way Of The Master Conference.....Holy Epidemic..................Melbourne, Australia
October 31st...........Halloween Night............................................. .................................Austin, TX
November 12..............Baylor University........................................ ......................................Waco, TX
November 30..............6th Street............................................ .................................................A ustin, TX
December 31..............6th Street............................................ .................................................A ustin, TX
January 31st......February 3rd.........Mardi Gras.............................................. ...............New Orleans, La.
February 5th.............6th Street...........Fat Tuesday........................................... ................Austin, TX

We want to thank everyone who supports us with prayer and financially
love you all..........please let GOD use you today
It's as easy as inviting someone to church!

Jose &amp; Amy
Matthew 6:33
4009 Beltway S.
Abilene, TX. 79606

thankfull4jesus
08-22-2007, 11:41 PM
Date: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:16 AM
From: Jose Muniz <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Club Comparison Chart
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Saints
This past Saturday as we were out at the club.......one of the local strip bars in town came out and
they were handing out their tracts........They had the dancers out there with very little clothing............their message was how you can save money by going to their club.......here is what their tract said.......

CLUB COMPARISON CARD
GOLD CLUB TOPLESS BAR
* NUDE * JUST TOPLESS
* 12 PACK OF BEER $12.00 * 12 PACK $ 66.00
* PINT OF LIQUOR $8.00 * PINT OF LIQUOR $ 75.00
* COVER MAX $20.00 - $3.00= $17.00 * COVER $10.00
TOTAL = $37.00 TOTAL = $ 151.00
TOTAL MONEY SAVED $ 114.00

Now what do you think?.........Big savings huh?.......well have you ever wondered
what it would look like if we had a church comparison chart from the first church and
today's churches

thankfull4jesus
08-23-2007, 12:18 AM
I tryed to copy the chart he made for you, but win I would paste it,it mixed it all together were you couldnt understand it,becouse on the left side of the page he had todays church on the right side he had the first centry church. so I had to skip that part.

I know that not all churches are like this......but sad to say most of them are..........
Today's churches need to get back to the basics of Christianity.......and bring back the standard of
GOD and do away with man's standards and opinions.......please pray for your church today.....and consider this......in the end it will be between me and GOD..........and you and GOD
Summer time is not for relaxing....and sadly many let their guard down and take a break from an already
easy lazy walk with GOD.......
Upcoming Ministry Schedule.......please take time to pray for us
July 6 2007................................Austin, TX. 6th Street
July 13-19..................................Ghent, Belgium......Street Outreach with Prepare International http://www.prepareinternational.org/index.html
July 22-28..................................Reynosa, Mexico.............Big Heart Orphanage
August 10-11............................Midland, TX......Rock the Desert http://www.rockthedesert.com/
Amy will be taking the team out.....
August 4-17..............................Israel.......handi ng out tracts in the Holy Land with the Wilson's
August 24..................................Austin, TX 6th Street
September 6-15.......................Abilene, TX.......handing out tracts everyday of the Fair
September 23- October 9.....Australia....will be speaking in Melbourne and Brisbane Way of The Master Evangelism Conference http://www.wayofthemaster.com.au/
October 31................................Austin, TX........about 70,000 people at the halloween party
November 30...........................Austin, TX. 6th Street
December 31............................Austin, TX. 6th Street.....New Year's Eve Party(biggest in Texas)
Love you all

Jose &amp; Amy
Matthew 6:33

d_eddy
08-27-2007, 06:58 AM
JOSE AND ANN I WAS JUST TRAVELING THREW ABILENE AND SOME OF THE BROTHER''S AND SISTER'S FROM YOUR CHURCH WHERE AT THE GRAYHOUND STATION THEY GAVE ME A SACK LUNCH AND TRACTS AND WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT JESUS AND SALVATION I
TOLD YOU AT ONE TIME I WAS APART OF A CHURCH AND THAT THE PASTORS SEEMED REALLY OF THE LORD AT ONE TIME LIKE I TOLD YOU ALL I WAS 16 WHEN I ACCEPTED JESUS INTO MY HEART AS MY SAVIOUR. BUT AFTER SUSAN ALAMO DIED TONY ALAMO REALLY WENT OFF INTO THE DEEP DARKNESS OF SELF. LIKE I TOLD YOU IM STRIVING DAILY TO ENTER IN.I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT YOUR GROUP WAS THERE AT THE RIGHT TIME AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE TRUE SPIRIT FILLED CHRISTIANS DOING A WORK FOR GOD.ALSO WHILE TRAVELING THREW BENTONVILLE ARK I RAN INTO SANFORD WHITE WHO WAS PASSING OUT TONY ALAMOS NEW TRACT. I HOPE THAT SOME DAY SANFORD IF YOU ARE ABLE TO READ THIS. GET AWAY FROM THAT EVIL DECIEVER TONY ALAMO I COULD'T READ THAT GARBAGE TONY PUTS OUT. AND IT SICKINS ME TO KNOW TONY BEAT MY NEICE AMY. SO TO ALL YOU THAT ARE STILL THERE AT THE FOUNDATION THERE ARE SOME TRUE BIBLE BELLIEVING CHRISTIANS OUT HERE AND I KNOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP YOU GET ON YOUR FEET. TONY IS A FALSE SELF PROCLAIMED PROPHET HE SAID IN 1989 GOD WAS GOING TO KILL ME REAL SOON BECAUSE I HAD A HARD TIME GETTING HIS STEP SON KENYA TO TAKE HIS PRAYER HOUR.TO ALL YOU PEOPLE STILL THERE AT THE PHONEY ALAMO FOUNDATION YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT MUSTARD SEED OF FAITH TO LEAVE THAT PLACE YOU ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND SOON THE WORLD WILL SEE AGAIN THE LIES AND MANIPULATION HE HAS ON YOU ALL. ITS SO SAD THAT YOU ARE BIENG TRICKED BY HIM AND YOU DON'T EVEN SEE IT. SO JUST PRAY FOR GOD TO DIRECT YOU AND THE DOOR WILL OPEN DONT FEEL SHAMED BY SATAN BECAUSE IT TOOK SO LONG TO FINALY SEE THE LIGHT. ITS TRUE TONY IS EITHER GOING TO PRISON OR HIS DAY IS COMMING WHEN HIS BREATH WILL DEPART FROM HIS BODY.THE GOVERMENT WILL TAKE THE PROPERTY YOU WILL BE HOMELESS AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEN YOU WILL SEE GODS HAND DID THIS AND YOU CAN COUNT ON SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL BE TRUTHFULLY THERE TO HELP YOU IN YOUR TIME OF NEED. IM PRAYING FOR ALL OF YOU TO BE DELIVERED FROM THE CLUCHES OF DECEPTION. AND ALSO JOSE AND AMY THANKYOU FOR YOUR HOSPITALITY. MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS AND KEEP YOU.

worm_can_opener
08-27-2007, 12:53 PM
d_Eddy
It's so nice to hear from you, after so long a time !!
I discovered this board around Feb. 6th, and also found my son, Harald, through some posts that people had put up. He's married now, with 2 kids !!
Yes, I also have felt so terrible, concerning Amy. When she was 1 year old, I used to babysit her, Monty and Nina, in a trailer at # 5. How is Amy, now that she escaped out of the world pedophile's cluthes ??
None of that garbage should ever have happened !!! such a sick pervert !!
welcome to Factnet ! hope we will all be hearing from you. Claudia Chervyakova (formerly Kellogg)

anchored
08-27-2007, 02:50 PM
Don, is the Amy mentioned with Jose &amp; Amy your Amy? Or is that just a coincidence?

d_eddy
08-27-2007, 07:29 PM
WCO &amp; Anchored my neice amy is fine. The other Jose&amp; Amy live in abilene tx. A group of there members feed the people that are passing threw on the grayhound bus and pass out tracts and minister they are very sincere and you can really see there zeal for souls it's fantastic They put me on there prayer list and it was just perfect timing. I have always had a burden for souls and they really rekindeld A even more desire. I had the Blessing to sit By a Man and his wife and the doors just opened so I took out the Holy Bible and showed them the scriptures on salvation . They are from sydney aus. visiting the states. well thanks for your concerne for Amy. I'll keep you in my prayers.

no_stoppin_me
08-27-2007, 07:52 PM
d_eddy, email me at julescpa1@aol.com.

Thanks

floridian
08-28-2007, 01:37 AM
Hey d_eddy,have you called Gilbert vincent lately?

d_eddy
08-28-2007, 02:07 AM
no can't say I have nor he me why are you so concerned and who are you I'm NOT HIDING WHO I AM?INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 03:06 AM
d_eddy I noticed your post (Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 1:58 amhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif Seems to be to jose and Amy and I wonted you to know I Dalt they are reading this board I coped there emails thy sent me and posted myself. you can contact them at <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net
God Bless you brother

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 03:15 AM
Date: Thursday, August 2, 2007 10:23 AM
From: Jose Muniz <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: The 10 Commandments are for America............
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Saints
It's good to be back from Belgium and Mexico........It has been great to see
a new country.......the sad thing is that the church is no different there than the one here
in the USA.......it's lacking big in the area of Evangelism.........the church all over the world
has very few in it that are obeying our LORD's command to........
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.......Matthew 28:19-20 (KJV)
I don't know why evangelism is pushed back to end of the line to.......when it's our primary
reason to even exist..........it is easier to get the American church to go over seas than to go across town........although they do have less help there......
I met a man name Steven who spoke English at this festival in Gent that we were at......there were hundreds of thousands of people there........I only saw one other team there passing out Bibles and Gospels of John.......the team had about 8 people.......we had 19 people on our team......so 27 Christians
among half a million people........I stopped Mr. Steven and asked him if he could name the 10 Commandments..........
me: Excuse me Sir do you speak English?
Steven: Yes I do!
me: could I ask you a very important question?
Steven: go ahead
me: can you name the 10 Commandments?
Steven: those are not for Belgium......they're for America
me: Is this your wife Sir? (his wife was with him)

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 03:17 AM
Steven: Yes it is.... (with a smile on his face looking at his wife)
me: is it OK with you if that man(I just pointed at a random man walking by) has sex with your wife? (with a smile on my face)
Steven: Of course not!!!! (with a frown on his face)
me: so you have sure changed your mind about the Commandments really quick Sir!
Steven: I haven't gave that much thought.......
the conversation went from him being really mad to him opening up for me to share the Gospel
of CHRIST.......he even asked me about what Church I went too........summer is going by so fast
and most Christians are more focused on taking their vacation than they are about reaching lost souls
going to hell..........On the way back from Belgium GOD put me right next a lady from Lubbock
and the daughter went to Trinity Christian School.....they had been touring Europe.....we had a great
talk about walking with GOD.........it was really crazy......the team that I was helping and training
in Belgium was from Lubbock and the youth on the team......most of them go to Trinity Christian School!....
please remember why GOD saved you........if you are saved and attending church......and that's all you
are doing......you are not doing GOD's will.........there's more......we have to go tell the lost
about our LORD JESUS and what HE has done for them on the cross.........we all have to go......
JESUS didn't send 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 of HIS disciples.......HE sent them ALL! and if you call yourself
a disciple of JESUS then you must obey HIM.......you might not go to Africa, Belgium, China or South America......and that's OK......make yourself available here.......this is where we live and this is where we need to do the work HE has called us to do........we are always on a mission everyday and that's the way we need to think!
Yesterday I was standing in line at Wal-Mart......a young man was buying a 30 pack of beer......
I got to share the Gospel with him in line.......opportunity is all around us but if we don't make an
effort to talk to people.....we'll just continue to disobey what JESUS told us to do........and if you think
that's not your calling........you have missed it big time.........GOD didn't save a ex-drug dealer, addict like me to stay in church!........that would've been so boring.......HE saved me to go tell others......being born again is just the beginning.......and yet in churches all over the world people are getting saved but they
are not being trained to go into the world they live in........the focus

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 03:18 AM
yet in churches all over the world people are getting saved but they
are not being trained to go into the world they live in........the focus is mostly over seas........last night we got to share the Gospel with two prostitutes an the Northside of town........it's all around us.........
On Saturday I will be going again to Israel to help Jase and Melissa Wilson start a JesusCrew Team
there in the Holy Land........they have been with us for over 8 years and GOD has placed them
where they have wanted to be........please keep it in your prayers........here are a few questions
that we all need to ask ourselves........
Why did HE save you?
Have you shared the Gospel with anyone in the past week?
Are you ashamed of the Gospel of CHRIST?
Are you going to disobey our LORD again?
It's not that hard.....whenever HE tells you to speak......speak......I know you can do it
I have the perfect book for you to read......The BIBLE.......it has all you need
Amy will be going out to the local clubs here in town while I'm gone
please pray for her......she is a good wife.......hard worker in the Kingdom........
I have been blessed........so if you're a wife that likes to boss your husband around
I feel sorry for you..........being whiny comes from being self-centered......and husbands
if all your wife sees you doing is watching the TV.......no wonder she is they way she is
turn the stupid TV off and spend time in the Word of GOD............ let's all get busy
sharing the Gospel

we love you all
please keep us in prayer........pray for Mr. Dieter in Belgium who is praying about starting
a JesusCrew Team in Belgium....also pray for Jase &amp; Melissa Wilson who have been
with JesusCrew for the past 8 years......GOD has sent them to Israel and they've been there
for over two years and they will be starting a JesusCrew Team there in Israel and we will be
going out to share the Gospel and get it kicked off next week.......I will be going to Israel on Saturday
Also Miss Monica as she starts a JesusCrew Team in Puerto Rico.....she has a few churches that will be helping out........thanks to you guys that support us as we go spread the Gospel to the lost....we start
here first.....then we take it to the other side of the world..........

Jose &amp; Amy
JesusCrew Street Ministries
4009 Beltway S.
Abilene, TX. 79606
Matthew 6:33
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thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 03:11 PM
Date: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:24 PM
From: Jose Muniz <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Bible Study at the Club........
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Saints
Last night at the Bus Station we had a great time as always........there were about
30 of us out there and we even had 3 members from the CMA (Christian Motorcyclist Association)
they also came out with us to the club Saturday night.........Mr. Brian &amp; Lydia Seals from
Morning Star Church.........its good to have different people from the body of CHRIST
coming out and doing the work GOD has called us to do.........we've been working the night
clubs.....starting August 21st....we'll be starting up a Bible Study at a local club for the Christian
and also for those lost souls that hate going to Church............
please keep that in your prayers........the LORD has given us favor and has opened the door for us to do this
I leave in the morning and will stay in touch
through email if I can..........Amy will be here and will be at the club this Saturday night
pray for the people of Belgium who have only less than 1% Christians....I will be here next Saturday
and will leave for Reynosa on Sunday the 22nd.............please pray for us

love you all
Jose &amp; Amy
Matthew 6:33

wilma
08-28-2007, 07:12 PM
thankful4jesus,
In all due respect, since this (jesuscrew) has nothing to do with the alamo foundation I request that you not fill up this Alamo Foundation Forum on Factnet with their newsletters. You have given their link if any one has any interest.

I mean no criticism of them, but bear with me a little bit here. A lot of us have all become a bit more skeptical and are much more careful consumers of anything "religious". Anyone, including the alamo group, can witness, pass out tracts, tell about salvation, pass out sandwiches, help the needy, etc. It's only after REALLY getting to know these people that you would know what their REAL purpose is.

So, please, let's get back to the topic at hand, which is that Tony Alamo has falsely preached the Bible to gather subservient followers. He has become inflamed and intoxicated with the power he has over these people who joined up with him ONLY to serve the Lord. Instead of teaching the gospel and sending these people out to live their own lives and glorify God, Tony has created in them an unhealthy DEPENDENCE. They think they must rely on tony to hear from God. He has convinced them that they are stupid, incompetent, and that they can't make it on their own. We have all proved him wrong but those on the inside only believe his lies.

Tony, in his delusional state, has spiraled into the most horrific of sins: raping and beating little girls, all the while claiming that he is the "world pastor" and spewing out Bible scriptures and damnation to those who will not follow him.

SG

no_stoppin_me
08-28-2007, 07:55 PM
Well said, Wilma!

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 08:40 PM
Wilma/ No-stoin me/ I have read your post throughout factnet and I have much respect for all of them and you as well, but I felt the Lord has layed it on my heart to do this. Besides I'm not interrupting other threads. this is just another thread within.
God Bless

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 08:42 PM
Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:56 AM
From: Jose Muniz <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Fw: Super summer...JesusCrew Israel &amp; Puerto Rico!
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Saints
We pray all is well as you minister in these last days.......we've been busy preaching the words
of our LORD and seeing GOD raise up Disciples with a heart to love the LORD and reach the lost
One of the main reasons JESUS discipled HIS disciples was to spread the Gospel of our
LORD........I pray for all you who GOD has placed in areas of discipleship......to remember why
we disciple believers......................tonight we have the bus station.....we have been rained out for several
Wednesdays back to back.........but today seems like we'll be able to minister there........on Friday
I will be leaving to help train a team in Belgium........we'll be witnessing on the streets of Gent, Belgium
Our prayer is that everyone who goes over seas will come back and do the same in their own cities.....
While I'm on the road Amy will continue to go to the bus station and the club here in Abilene.......
I will be coming back on Saturday the 21st and then driving to Reynosa, Mexico on the 22nd for a week
with our Youth serving at Big Heart Orphanage.........please pray for us as we go..........Last Saturday
we had dinner with Miss Monica who is a one of the members of JesusCrew and has been for the past seven years.....she has moved to Puerto Rico to help start a JesusCrew team among a few churches there......please keep her in your prayers......also pray for Jase &amp; Melissa Wilson who have been with JesusCrew for eight years and are now in Israel and will be starting a JesusCrew Team there.......doing some open air preaching to the Jew first......and of course handing out tracts and Bibles as well
I highly recommend for all those who want to go witness overseas.........to start here first........in the USA
there are a few Christians going out very faithfully here in America everyday of the week.......please
pray about joining up here first.......

thank you to those of you who support us with prayer and finances.......
we love you all

Jose &amp; Amy
JesusCrew Street Ministries
4009 Beltway S.
Abilene, TX. 79606
Matthew 6:33

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 08:57 PM
Wilma I do respect what your saying, but we cant let our hate for Tony Alamo cause us to forget our first love. I get very inspiring messages from the jesuscrew, and I am only furthering the gospel by sharing. I think there are Alamo People who will read these messages and realise they are in the wrong place. You know Tony Alamo has monitors reading this board and I wont them to hear good news.

thankfull4jesus
08-28-2007, 09:08 PM
I just Emailed jose if he or a factnet moderator tells me to stop I will stop.
God Bless You

bintheredunthat
08-29-2007, 02:45 AM
Factnet has not asked us to stop but has already stated that a large percentage of the posts are off topic and that it costs extra to maintain those posts. They almost closed down because of that and other things but that was a major concern. If too many people continue to fill the board up with unrelated topics even though they are edifying then the board could possibly shut down or we may all be forced to pay a membership fee. This board is one of the only places that exposes Alamo. It's the only internet site that he talks of on his radio program. So it must be far more effective than we realize. I'd hate to see it go down because of so much unrelated posting.

thankfull4jesus
08-29-2007, 05:36 AM
I donate and will keep donating. I will keep it to a minimum though but the good stuff you got to hear.

(Message edited by thankfull4jesus on August 29, 2007)

floridian
08-29-2007, 11:18 AM
Proverbs 25:25,As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country.

modesto
08-30-2007, 04:27 AM
Even Satan himself can quote scripture.

worm_can_opener
08-30-2007, 04:38 PM
even a parrot ! actually, they make these stuffed parrots, that repeat everything you say, if you set them near each other, then say a scripture, they repeat it back and forth all day long !!!

mixter1
08-30-2007, 06:27 PM
That's unfortunate,

A parrot cannot expound or learn meanings.

floridian
08-31-2007, 01:42 AM
No satan can not quote it word for word. Spirit of God,,Psalm 91:11,For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. Psalm 91:12,They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

devils quote, Matthew 4:6,And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. devils quote in luke,,Luke 4:10,For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
Luke 4:11,And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Different words different meanings,the auther of confusion,takes away words,adds words,changes the meaning. Yes freinds there are other versions of the bible out there,versions that the devil authors.

(Message edited by floridian on August 30, 2007)

bintheredunthat
08-31-2007, 04:53 AM
Floridian that's ridiculous.

Jesus never quoted an Old Testament scripture exactly according to the KJV either check it out. He even called Isaiah and Jeremiah by different names.

The Devil can quote scriptures he does it all the time through countless heretics yourself included. Yes I called you a heretic. Your recent bogus "warning from God" proves it.

floridian
08-31-2007, 11:00 AM
you can not show it in the scriptures where JESUS CHRIST added new words or taken away words which changed the meaning,It is your turn to show it in the sriptures,it is your turn to show the Scripture that you speak of. You have not proved me wrong in anything yet,,you just give harsh loud speech of your point,show and tell time,most people want to hear your scripture that justifies your speech,yes show and tell time,you save that,just because I say God told me,does not make it true,so I guess,that just because you say it does not mean it is the truth either,so,where is your facts. You will find that, concerning and charge have a huge different meaning,and at anytime,changes the meaning alot,. alot of people want to see your sriptures on this. If you feel that the warning is bogus as you say you do not have to take heed,just carry on.

anchored
08-31-2007, 01:30 PM
Tony Alamo is a pro at twisting 1/2 truths &amp; lies into tracts and smear campaigns against anyone who is not afraid of him, and anyone who will expose the true facts about tony alamo's lying, polygamist lifestyle and is an expert at twisting scriptures in a feeble attempt to justify his wicked practices.

He also says he hears from God and yet we know that he doesn't because of all of his false prophesies and lies. Anyone can take a couple steps back and pretend they're hearing from God and then spew their lie into the ears of the bystanders. Jared was telling the truth and toni said God was telling him Jared was lying about the piece of fruit thrown out the bus window and yet everyone standing around knew toni was a phony liar right then.

Some people will do anything to get the spotlight off from toni.

So is it any wonder we have a thread called Floridian?

(Message edited by anchored on August 31, 2007)

mixter1
08-31-2007, 03:37 PM
Alan B, Wilma,

I need to speak to you. IMPORTANT!

mixter37@sbcglobal.com

thankfull4jesus
12-08-2007, 07:31 PM
Date: Saturday, September 1, 2007 10:45 AM
From: Jose Muniz <jesuscrew@suddenlink.net>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Jesus Crew Belgium
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Saints

Please pray for the JesusCrew in Gent, Belgium as they hit the streets today!
The team there is now official and they will be going out on a regular basis

Today you have four opportunities to go out and share the Gospel here in Abilene........
12:30 pm Shotwell Stadium
3:00 pm...The Mall of Abilene
9:00 pm...Shotwell Stadium.....at an Abilene High football game
11:55 pm Midnight Rodeo 3.....night club
So if you have any questions please email or call me at 325-733-8829
If you don't live here there are many places in your own city where you will encounter
lost souls........some places to check into are The Malls, Parks, Clubs or your own neighborhood
here are some of the members from the team in Belgium that you can pray for

JesusCrew Belgium, Gent: Mr. Dieter &amp; Mrs. Lien (my wife, yeah !!); Michael D’Haene, Freddy Levy,

Alex Van den bergh

Joining in November: Christian Vermeire &amp; Mieke Geens.

Note: A word that once was spoken over Belgium was as follows: “do not despise small beginnings”.

We must wake ourselves up! Or somebody else will take our place, and bear our cross, and thereby rob us of our crown.” William Booth (I am reading a biography of William and Catherine Booth)

God bless,

Dieter &amp; Lien.

hope to see you out here where we need to be among the lost........the light is not to put under the

table my friend........

love you all

Jose &amp; Amy

Matthew 6:33

thankfull4jesus
12-09-2007, 03:58 AM
> Saints
> It has been really good at the Fair.....we've handed out over 6,000 tracts so
far and we
> still have a few more days to go.......we'll be out there again tonight at
7:00 pm by Gate D.......
> we haven't really
> had a whole lot of laborers.......but we have to remember that JESUS our LORD
did say
> that harvest would be great.......Matthew 9:37-38 (KJV)
> Then saith HE unto HIS disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the
labourers are few; [38] Pray ye therefore the LORD of the harvest, that HE will
send forth labourers into HIS harvest.
> I was on the radio station asking the people to come out and help...........I
was on the radio for about 10 or 15 minutes..........I gave out my cell number
to all the listeners at least 2 times then the Broadcaster gave my cell number
over the radio several time............and to my surprise......I haven't
received a single call
> from Christians telling us that they want to come help..........isn't that
sad........I can only imagine what
> goes through the mind of someone that knows they're suppose to go and they
don't.......
>
> LORD here I am....please send ME!.....but only send ME! where I want to
go.......send ME to Africa, China,
> South America, Europe, specially Paris and Venice!.......there are sooo many
people going to hell over there......please LORD help me raise $10,000 dollars
so I can go witness around the whole.........I love to let MY light
shine.........I don't want to go across the street or even across town.....The
Mall is too busy....it's just too boring
> here......and besides that.......someone that works we ME might see me
preaching YOUR gospel and I will be soooo embarrassed.......YES I am a bit
ashamed of YOU LORD.......I really can't pass out tracts here........but
LORD....YOU love ME no matter what I do...oh how I love YOUR grace.........even
in MY disobedience YOUR grace is sufficient.......YOU lead ME to all MY green
pastures.......LORD......YOU know all things and that I'm so busy everyday this
week
> and actually for the rest of MY life.......I have school all day........then I
have homework........I need a really good job.......so I can be financially
secure........please bring ME the right person to marry and have two or 3
kids.......then I have to go fellowship with all my spiritual friends at
Starbucks!.....then I have to go to the Worship night and feel YOUR presence..oh
how I love that time with YOU........then I have to go clean my guns....Its
hunting season........then I have to go pray for YOU to guide ME the way I want
to go.......then church.........then MY life group..........can't miss out on
the Football season........then I have to get some rest on MY Sabbath........I'm
still praying about where to go LORD.......Oh I forgot...I have to read MY new
book on how to live successful.......I am so purpose driven now!.......then I
have to catch a good clean movie..........Oh LORD YOU see how busy I am doing
YOUR will.........maybe I should just pray a little bit more and fast from Dr.
Peppers.........Amen
>
> Please consider the harvest.........in this world you are either a part of the
Harvest or you are a Laborer
> Which one are you?
> Love you all..........
>
> Jose &amp; Amy
> Matthew 6:33

thankfull4jesus
12-09-2007, 07:31 PM
Subject: Kicked out of church.........?
We've been super busying just like everyone else is......we've been tracting every football game in town
and that has been great.........Last night at the club there was a young lady who was in her mid 20's
and she just wanted to argue......she came over to tell that her friend had been kicked out of a local church
because of his appearance and dress code........but mainly his appearance.......so I listened as told me this and I couldn't believe that a church where lost people need to come would do such a thing......it reminded me of when I first moved to Abilene back in 1985........me and Amy had visited a church and after the service we left.....a few hours later when we hadn't made to the apartment.......I got a call.......it was the Youth Minister of the church we had attended......he was crying as he spoke with me..........he told me...."Sorry that I have to tell you this but I was told to call you and let you know that you can't come to this church......because you don't fit in".............I told him that was OK.....it didn't bother me because I was new in the faith so I thought that I had to find a special church where I did fit in...........so then the following Sunday we went to another church..........We heard the message and it was good and simple.......(my style)..........as we were walking out of the church the Pastor was standing by the back door greeting everyone as they left..........he was shaking people's hands as they walked out.......then it was our turn to shake the Pastor's hand.......Amy was first.....he shook her hand and told her "It's good to have you here please come back again"........then he saw me........he turned his face away from me and put his hand down.........and I was left with my hand stretched out............So I thought "What's his problem".......so I just walked by and felt dumb.........So guess WHAT!!!!..........The next Sunday we went
to another church........We sat down and Sunday morning and the sermon was already in progress........we sat in the back.........and as I listened ......the Pastor was preaching from the Gospel of Matthew........it was going good.......but all of a sudden.......the sermon went from a parable of JESUS to how it was a sin to have long hair!!!!!........so I looked around.......I was the only man there with long hair........I didn't like it........so we just walked out...........So then I thought we should do something different the next time........we'll go to a Sunday school class.........so there we go.......back for the fourth round........we got there and they made some announcements and then the Pastor dismissed the kids and adults to their classes..........so me and Amy got up and followed the young adults........as I was walking the Pastor got off the platform and cut me off.........and he asked me......"Where are you going?".......I told him that we were going to the Sunday school class.......he took me aside and told me that I had to be a member there for 6 months before I could go to a class...........that was my last Sunday for the next 11 years.............All this went through my mind as she said this.........so I asked her what church did this.........she said "A CHURCH CALLED BELTWAY"
I was surprised.....because that's where I am a member at.........so I questioned her.......she kept saying some bad things about it........I looked at her and I told her........your friend is a liar!........she defended him.........I told her Ma'am........I attend Beltway and I am supported by Beltway and I go to church at Beltway just like this!........now your friend must look like an alien if he looks weirder than me!.........I told her to call her friend and

thankfull4jesus
12-09-2007, 07:35 PM
!.........I told her to call her friend and we can address this with my Pastor.......he would love to hear about this to fix the problem........she then back off.........she heard the Gospel of CHRIST after that......she was pretty ticked off......after about 10 minutes.......she shook my hand and said....."good talking to you.....thanks for talking to me".........people are so lost......but when truth is spoken things happen..........
I pray that you look at people as someone JESUS died for...............and then invite them to church........
Please pray for us as I will be speaking at Baylor University in the morning...........
love you all
Jose &amp; Amy

wilma
12-09-2007, 07:46 PM
Thankful4jesus,
Please be reminded that Factnet.org exists to expose destructive cults and cult leaders. Seems to me you are trying to advertise another group and I think I speak for many that this really isn't the appropriate place to do that.

We would be happy to dialog with you. We'd like to know more about you. Tell us about yourself. When were you in the Alamo cult? Why did you leave? What was going on while you were there? Did you meet Tony and did you know he practiced polygamy with underage little girls? What did you personally witness that made you realize it was a cult?
SG

thankfull4jesus
12-18-2007, 07:19 PM
you are right I stop

dyann
12-19-2007, 08:05 PM
Thank you thakfull4jesus ((you are right I stop))
I agree with wilma, but am happy you are here with us if you'd like to post your experiences or even your own views about the Alamo Cult.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif

skeptik
03-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Even Satan himself can quote scripture.

As can Comrade Alamo; I knew an OC who could even create new scriptures!