Anonymous
05-30-2003, 04:40 PM
Anybody have any experience with this. It is a non-profit California Corporation out of Marin county and Sonoma County.
Somebody close to me has become obsessed with this organization and has spent 1500 2000 dollars attending weekends with older males in the mountains releasing the testosterone he apparently has built up.
They claim to take young male adults 13 to 20-something away for the weekend in the mountain and turn them into men. They claim that young males and older males problems are raging hormones and testosterone build up. They create a raging roaring fire and encircle the male and taunt them to release or "go off" as they put it. Then they restrain or hold back the individual. This seems to be some type of rage release technique. After attending a weekend with this group the man in my life returned with bruises all over his upper body and no voice from yelling. I also noticed that since attending these weekends it became easier for him to "go off" at home. The more someone does something the easier it becomes to repeat the behavior. They also burn sage because it has some sort of cleansing processes, enter Tee-Pee's and do indian chants. They compare the weekend to the indian cultural practices where they send a young man out to the forest for an amount of time and he returns or becomes a man. The man I know is now obssessed with indian culture and the small amount of indian heritage we have in our family. The heirarchy of the organization seems ideal for a cult. They have weekends away for the parents, men mentoring men meetings, weekends for women as well. Since attending this stuff the man in my life has become obssessed with being a man. I AM A MAN, and thinks of women as lesser individuals. That men should only talk to women about how their day was. He was even considering finding a mail order bride from the phillipines because they are "submissive" in their culture as he puts it. He burns sage all the time. Sounds well and good the whole idea taking these young men and mentoring them to become real men but something is not right. Apparently the man I know has mentioned he now knows millionaires when I asked him where one of them made his money he didn't know. I would guess from this non-profit corporation. Also, the man I know wants them to start paying him a salary. He's been paying them to participate taking time off of work to participate. Since being involved with this group the man I know took a 13 year old child and blindfolded him and took him somewhere down to the beach. His mother allowed the man to do this. But this is one of their practices. A week after he blindfolded the child the child was hospitalized in a psychiatric facility, after beating his mother. He punishes his 12 year old son by socially isolating and alienating him from his extended family, tells his 12 year old son not to talk to women including his mother, his son has said his father is training him to become a man. And just recently has said his father is training him not to think for himself. His son can't make a move without talking to his father first. His son is scared to death of him and knows something isn't right but is too immature to get a grasp of it. Anybody have any experiences with this?
Somebody close to me has become obsessed with this organization and has spent 1500 2000 dollars attending weekends with older males in the mountains releasing the testosterone he apparently has built up.
They claim to take young male adults 13 to 20-something away for the weekend in the mountain and turn them into men. They claim that young males and older males problems are raging hormones and testosterone build up. They create a raging roaring fire and encircle the male and taunt them to release or "go off" as they put it. Then they restrain or hold back the individual. This seems to be some type of rage release technique. After attending a weekend with this group the man in my life returned with bruises all over his upper body and no voice from yelling. I also noticed that since attending these weekends it became easier for him to "go off" at home. The more someone does something the easier it becomes to repeat the behavior. They also burn sage because it has some sort of cleansing processes, enter Tee-Pee's and do indian chants. They compare the weekend to the indian cultural practices where they send a young man out to the forest for an amount of time and he returns or becomes a man. The man I know is now obssessed with indian culture and the small amount of indian heritage we have in our family. The heirarchy of the organization seems ideal for a cult. They have weekends away for the parents, men mentoring men meetings, weekends for women as well. Since attending this stuff the man in my life has become obssessed with being a man. I AM A MAN, and thinks of women as lesser individuals. That men should only talk to women about how their day was. He was even considering finding a mail order bride from the phillipines because they are "submissive" in their culture as he puts it. He burns sage all the time. Sounds well and good the whole idea taking these young men and mentoring them to become real men but something is not right. Apparently the man I know has mentioned he now knows millionaires when I asked him where one of them made his money he didn't know. I would guess from this non-profit corporation. Also, the man I know wants them to start paying him a salary. He's been paying them to participate taking time off of work to participate. Since being involved with this group the man I know took a 13 year old child and blindfolded him and took him somewhere down to the beach. His mother allowed the man to do this. But this is one of their practices. A week after he blindfolded the child the child was hospitalized in a psychiatric facility, after beating his mother. He punishes his 12 year old son by socially isolating and alienating him from his extended family, tells his 12 year old son not to talk to women including his mother, his son has said his father is training him to become a man. And just recently has said his father is training him not to think for himself. His son can't make a move without talking to his father first. His son is scared to death of him and knows something isn't right but is too immature to get a grasp of it. Anybody have any experiences with this?