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Anonymous
06-09-2002, 12:13 AM
Ecleo cult a mix of great faiths, the occult
By Herbie Gomez , Correspondent
Posted on Saturday, June 8, 2002
CAGAYAN DE ORO CITY — Former mayor Ruben Ecleo Jr. of San Jose, Surigao del Norte, is a wanted man. He is accused of killing his own wife Alona in Cebu last January and has been ordered arrested to stand trial for parricide.
But he is not merely a politician or a son of Surigao del Norte Rep. Glenda Ecleo. He is the “supreme president” of a Mindanao-based cult with members willing to die for their “master.”
Such zealotry could be attributed to Ecleo’s late father Ruben Sr. from whom the ex-mayor inherited the cult’s mantle of leadership.
For 37 years, the Surigao del Norte-based Ecleo cult, Philippine Benevolent Missionaries Association (PBMA), has been preaching a doctrine lifted from the teachings of Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism mixed with occultism and astrology.
Founders
It was the late Ruben Ecleo Sr. who started it all.
In 1965, the “divine master” and a handful of his followers formally organized the PBMA in Ozamiz City.
Its incorporators were Ecleo, Arsenio Nazareno of Calbayog, Francisco Enerio of Misamis Oriental, Floro Caboverde of Zamboanga City, Carlos Lomanta of Ozamiz, Maximo Ravelo of Davao Oriental; Pedro Montives of Leyte, Dionisio Cui of Davao del Norte, Victoriano Rafols of Lanao del Norte, and Eusebio Bandivas, Casiano Gorrea and Maximo Caboverde of Zamboanga del Norte.
The elder Ecleo’s “missionary work,” however, started much earlier than 1965.
First Apostles
Between 1958 and 1963, the years Ecleo supposedly immersed himself in his “missionary work.” Thus, the “divine master” collected the apostles who referred to as the “First Thirteen.”
Two PBMA incorporators, Nazareno and Enerio, were among the Ecleo apostles. The others were Cipriano Otero of Gingoog City, his wife’s brother Ruben Buray of Misamis Oriental, cousins George and Cupertino Edera of Basilisa and Martin Laturnas of Bohol, Ignacio Sombrado of Bohol, Teodoro Regacion of Leyte, Pedro Toquib of Bukidnon and Benjamin Ratonil of Cebu.
The “First Thirteen,” like the early New Testament apostles, were sent out by Ecleo to preach, “heal” the sick and recruit followers.
Mystical childhood
The PBMA claims Ecleo started his “mission” as early as 1941 when the PBMA founder was still a boy. At eight, it said the boy Ruben had “reached far places on mission” and that he had received “dictations from the spiritual realm” in the mountains of northern Leyte at the age of 11.
He began his “full mission” a year later, when he was already 12.
The “dictations,” according to the PBMA, came in the form of a voice from Devachan while Ecleo was meditating, surrounded by “pythons, deadly insects, venomous vipers and reptiles.”
Devachan, in Indian, is the equivalent of the word “paradise” to Christians, a second heaven for the soul and a place of rest to Buddhists.
The PBMA also claims Ecleo was guided by the Arhat and taught by the Avatar.
Arhat is a Buddhist term for “worthy one” or “destroyer of the foe (ignorance),” a title given to those who have achieved “Nirvana” which is the state wherein a man is believed to have been freed from suffering or from the cycle of birth and death. In Hindu usage, Avatar refers to any incarnation of the god Vishnu. Used generally, it refers to any descent of a god into the world in human form
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PBMA founder a ‘Christ-like’ figure
By Herbie Gomez
Posted on Sunday, June 9, 2002
CAGAYAN DE ORO — “Voices” trained Philippine Benevolent Missionaries Association (PBMA) founder Ruben Ecleo Sr. in reading and writing in Arabic, Hebrew, Sanskrit and Aramaic so he could “interpret the ancient mysteries,” according to cult members.
The father of wanted former San Jose mayor Ruben Jr. was known to make predictions based on “Akashic Records” or, in Hindu mysticism, “cosmic consciousness.” His continuing messianic mystique plays a major role in on-going drama on Dinagat, a small island off the northeastern point of the Mindanao mainland. There, cult members willing to die for their master are thwarting police efforts to arrest Ruben Jr., current leader of PBMA and son of Surigao del Norte Rep. Glenda Ecleo, who is wanted for the January murder of his wife, Alona, in Cebu last January.
Like Jesus
Cult leaders say the older Ecleo had possessed the powers to be omnipresent like the “Master Jesus [Christ] who had been in the Americas, Egypt, India and in his native Judea simultaneously, aside from being in the monastery in the Essenean School, near Mount Serbal, overlooking the Black Sea.” Mainstream Christian sects have rejected such teaching.
The cultists claim Ecleo “could do almost anything” by reciting the Mantra which, in Hinduism and Buddhism, refers to a sacred word or syllable repeated in prayer and meditation.
And like the biblical Jesus Christ, the PBMA leader can also transfigure himself and can even resurrect the dead, according to the cult.
“Master Ruben can materialize anywhere at will,” claims the PBMA. It said Ecleo, on numerous occasions since his childhood, had been present in various places at the same time. “While performing his missionary work in Agusan, he was also physically traveling somewhere in Davao, Bukidnon, Leyte and Samar, using different names (and) perhaps different faces, some of whom are old or young identities ...”
The cult said “all manifested personalities” — with nicknames such as Ben, Obing, Fred, Freddie, Ruben, Tony and Dr. Laway — had cured the sick like the “Lord Jesus who first applied these powers in Judea ...”
PBMA leaders say Ecleo’s healing powers directly come from “our Divine Father by virtue of the sacred or divine prayers which are called in Occultism as Mantras.”
Dynasty
Ecleo Sr. built for himself and his family a “kingdom” on impoverished Dinagat, a small, irregular and typhoon-prone island mass off the northeastern tip of Mindanao.
Since it was chartered in 1965, the late cult leader’s PBMA virtually turned the entire island into an “Ecleo Country.” The cult also became a powerful political machinery that it created, wittingly or unwittingly, a dynasty for the Ecleos.
Ecleo’s elder brother, Moises, became a governor of Surigao del Norte. His wife, the former Glenda Oliveros Buray of Gitagum, Misamis Oriental, is now a representative of Surigao del Norte to the Lower House while his son Ruben Jr. was one-time mayor of San Jose town. Another Ecleo son, Allan II, is presently mayor of the same town where the PBMA solidified its base.
On San Jose now stand four multimillion-peso PBMA landmarks — the “Divine Master’s Shrine,” “Master’s Mansion,” “Comet House” and the cult’s administration building.
The San Jose edifices are indications that the PBMA has grown into a multimillion-peso, if not a billionaire establishment.
Rich group
It is estimated that the PBMA has already raised at least P35 million in entrance fees from its members since 1965. The figure is insignificant if one considered the estimated P70-million annual revenue the PBMA generates by imposing annual dues on its members in the country.
The PBMA charter obliges each new member to pay P10 as “entrance fee.” Every year, each PBMA member is expected to pay a P20 annual fee.
The PBMA boasts of having 3.5 million members in the country alone. It claims it also has members in Jordan, Canada, Australia, Palau, Hong Kong, Guam, Singapore, Malaysia, London, Italy, Monaco, Germany, Hawaii, New York and Scotland, among others. The group claims it is also organizing more PBMA chapters abroad.
Aside from its fixed entrance- and annual-fee incomes, the PBMA charter also encourages members to voluntarily give money “when the Board of Directors or the Supreme President ... may desire to plead to the general members for the good or the betterment of the association.”
The association’s constitution and by-laws is silent on the sale of PBMA rings but a Surigao City-based source said all its members are expected to wear one for identification.
Each PBMA ring, according to the source, costs somewhere “between P50 to P100, more or less.”
Little government
With all the money the PBMA rakes in, not to mention the influence it wields over Dinagat, nearby towns and neighboring Surigao City, it has virtually become a little government in its own right with a well-greased “private army,” ironically, on the impoverished Surigao del Norte island. “Many of the PBMA members living in Dinagat are armed,” said a Surigao-based source who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The source said the armed PBMA members have made an oath to protect the “master,” referring to Ecleo’s son and successor Ruben Jr. who is facing a lawsuit in connection with the grisly murder of his wife, the former Alona Bacolod. Alona, who died by strangulation, was found inside a garbage bag dumped in a secluded area in Cebu last January.
Agents of the National Police’s Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG) who were sent to Dinagat island last week complained they failed to serve an arrest warrant against the parricide suspect because residents have been protecting the PBMA “master.”
The Cebu-based CIDG team also accused the entire San Jose police force of coddling Ruben Jr. who is believed hiding inside the Ecleo mansion in San Jose town.
“That’s the extent of the influence of the Ecleos in Dinagat. They even control the police,” another source said.
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Anonymous
06-20-2002, 08:29 PM
23 slain as Philippines cult leader nabbed
Cebu, Philippines
19 June 2002 10:43
Twenty-three people died in a night of violence which erupted as Philippine police went to arrest the politically connected leader of a messianic cult accused of murdering his wife.
Ruben Ecleo (47), finally surrendered on Wednesday after hours of bloody fighting between police and his armed followers at their commune on the southern island of Dinagat, regional police chief Alberto Olario said.
Sixteen members of Ecleo's pseudo-Christian Philippine Benevolent Missionaries Association (PBMA), including a co-defendant in the murder case, were killed after they tried to prevent police from arresting the two men, Chief Superintendent Olario said.
A policeman also died and two were wounded, part of a massive police force that assaulted the island on Tuesday night.
As the operation was underway on Dinagat, a PBMA member armed with a machinegun broke into the home of Ecleo's in-laws in Mandaue district near here, killing Ecleo's father-in-law Elpidio Bacolod, his wife Rosalia, their son Ben and daughter Evelyn.
A neighbour was also killed while Bacolod's other son Ricky was wounded, police said.
The gunman was himself slain after a fire-fight with government forces, while a government militiaman was wounded, police said.
Ben Bacolod was a government witness in the murder case against Ecleo, police said.
***Ecleo is considered by followers to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
His father, also named Ruben, founded the PBMA in 1965 and assumed the title of "Divine Master" with claimed powers of healing, mental telepathy, as well as the ability to communicate through dreams and to predict natural calamities and the rise and fall of governments.
The group's website claims 3,5 million members in 15 countries, and said the elder Ecleo had "re-appeared" four days after his death in 1987 and also had powers to revive the dead.
The remains of the younger Ecleo's wife were found stuffed in a black garbage bag at the bottom of a cliff in the south of Cebu island on January 30.
Police said the 27-year-old woman had been strangled.
***Cult members, who carry amulets which they say ensure bullets do not harm them, helped the military fight communist guerrillas during the elder Ecleo's stewardship of the cult. --Sapa-AFP
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Anonymous
06-26-2002, 03:15 AM
Cult leader's suitcase yields 'shabu'
Posted: 0:17 AM (Manila Time) | Jun. 22, 2002
By Jhunnex Napallacan, Jolene Bolambot and Kathy I. Navarro
Inquirer News Service, PDI Visayas Bureau
CEBU CITY - Cult leader Ruben Ecleo Jr. is in for more trouble.
Three small packs containing shabu (methamphetamine hydrochloride) were found in his luggage after he was committed to the Bagong Buhay Rehabilitation Center (BBRC).
Chief Insp. Oscar Capanas found the three packs hidden in a bar of Ivory bath soap in Ecleo's green suitcase.
The soap bar was resealed to make it appear that it had not been opened. Each pack contained about a gram of shabu.
Ecleo, "supreme master" of the Philippine Benevolent Missionaries Association (PBMA), vehemently denied that the packs were his.
"Planted siguro iyon kay wala man gani ko hahibawo anang sabuna. Wala man ko mogamit ana nga sabon (The packs were apparently planted because I did not know anything about that soap. I don't use that brand of soap)," he told reporters in his cell.
His lawyer, Orlando Salatandre, said Ecleo was not the one who carried his bags when he left Camp Crame for Cebu. He added that he was not even sure if Ecleo was the one who packed his personal belongings.
Police, he added, should first trace the identity of the person who put his client's belongings in the suitcase.
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stephen pentland
09-25-2002, 10:37 PM
Dear Sir/Madam
I am hoping that you may be able to forward this message onto Senator Ace Barbers or Pem Barbers please - I am urgently seeking their assitance to talk to the Casana's in an attempt to retrieve my belongings and cash taken by Reynaldo and Cristina. It is a messy situation and as you can see Cristina is now involved heavily with a married man onboard who has three children. Thank you for your help
Stephen Pentland
H. E. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo
President
Dear President,
I have written to you a number of times in relation to Ms Cristina Casana and her family in Cebu. Her father, Reynaldo Casana has finally been arrested and is now facing trial at the Sandiganbayan whilst her brothers were formerly charged with Frustrated Homocide and are awaiting trial at the RTC in Cebu.
Attached you will find an updated letter sent to many Manning Agencies and the POEA in relation to Ms Casana and her activities. As you may be aware, I was engaged to Cristina for two years thinking that she was a divorced woman although she was legally married to a famous Negros Slasher basketball player Maui Huelar at the time. She is now in the arms of a married man from Caluag.
In March I faced eviction notices from the Casana's out of my own home, found all my bank accounts emptied, furnitures gone, fittings taken and a brand new toyota carolla (registered in their name but paid for by me) gone.
Ms Casana is returning to the Philippines on 20 October and I have made the DOJ, Passport Office and other authorities know that she has a Filipino passport in the name of Casana but her married name at the time was Huelar. She has misrepresented herself when applying for that passport and in many other ways since obtaining her passport.
Madam President I hope that Justice catches up with Ms Casana and her family.
Thank you for again reading my correspondence.
Stephen Pentland
Justice of the Peace
22 September, 2002
POEA
Career Philippines Ship Management Inc
Magsaysay Maritime Corporation
NYK Filship
Philippine Hanse Ship Agency Inc
Arpaphil Shipping Corporation
CF Sharp
Pacific Ocean Manning
Seapower Shipping
Hanseatic Ship Co.
Singa Ship Management
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CTI Group Phils
International Crewing
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Jebsen’s Maritime Inc
Avantegard Shipping Corporation
TSM Shipping
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Crystal Shipping Inc Manning Agency
Dear Sir/Madam,
Please find attached documents in relation to Ms Cristina Lim Casana (29 May, 1974) currently onboard the Disney Wonder.
I have forwarded a number of complaints to various Governmental Departments including the Department of Justice, Sandiganbayan, RTC Cebu City, Passport Office, Foreign Affairs, Department of Immigration USA, Department of Immigration Philippines, various shipping agencies, the POEA, the Honorable President of the Philippines and many, many more parties within the Philippines and abroad.
Ms Cristina Casana entered into a relationship with me whilst a legally married woman and we were engaged to be married. Over the two years I acquired property including motor vehicles, furnitures, fittings, appliances and a new townhome in Banawa, Cebu. I was informed by her family that foreigners were unable to own property in Philippines and as a result put everything, including bank accounts in the name of Virginia and Rey Casana (parents).
A number of things happened and my suspicions grew. In March of this year I found that if I transferred the property into Cristina’s name the house would become conjugal property.
More investigations into the family revealed that Cristina was married to Maui Huelar a famous basketballer for Negros Slashers and that she has misrepresented herself at the Passport Office in 1999. When applying for her Philippine passport she stated that she was a single woman and neglected to attach a copy of her marriage certificate to her application.
Further inquiries revealed that Cristina signed contracts with the POEA and CF Sharp to work abroad on the Fair Princess ship. At home her father Reynaldo Casana was on the run from the Sandiganbayan – relating to charges of misappropriation in 1990 and 1996. He had eluded arrest for ten years and lived off the earnings of Ms Casana. Cristina Casana knowingly aided and abetted Rey Casana whilst he was on the run from the law.
Please see attached documents showing the charges he is facing before the Sandiganbayan following his arrest on information given to authorities by myself. You will notice an email from the Sandiganbayan outlining the sentence of 17 years and one day for the co-accused Bernadino Alcaria. Ms Casana’s education, her upbringing, her adolescent life and her entire past was paid for by funds stolen from the Municipality of Cagdiano in Surigao.
Cristina’s twin brothers were also found to have alias warrants in effect for frustrated homicide. The authorities were given Cristina’s home address and the twins were arrested and now face trial in October at the RTC in Cebu.
Virginia Casana – Cristina’s mother is now under investigation following the withdrawal of monies from various bank accounts at China Bank. The amortization checks for my townhome all bounced for three months and now charges are about to be laid against her.
Please note that Cristina’s father, mother and twin brothers remain living at her home – Ong’s Apartments, Lemon Street, Rama Compound Basak Mambaling Cebu – and you can call them on 0917 3744027.
I strongly urge you to contact the following lawyer if you have any questions about Cristina Casana –
Auren Acuna
Mercado Cordero Bael Acuna and Sepulveda
3/F C.A.O. Mercado Building
Osmena Boulevarde Cebu City 6000
Phone: 253 4941/253 5730/253 5209
Email: fmclaw@col.net.ph
You will also notice in previous complaints made to your company and Government agencies that Ms Casana has been involved in another relationship onboard the Disney Wonder with a Dining Server by the name of Jonas Leonor – PNR Site Brgy 5 Caluag Quezon. Mr Leonor impregnated Ms Casana who subsequently had an abortion. It can also be noted that Mr Leonor is a married man with three children.
But this story is not uncommon to Ms Casana – she has also had affairs and taken money from other seamen – including an Indonesian Server on the Fair Princess by the name of Frank and a Seaman working for Crystal Shipping – Captain Renie who was sending money to the Casana’s (Cristina’s father and mother) whilst at sea with me in Australia. Other seaman have leant Ms Casana money onboard other vessels – amounts of up to $1000 and these funds are partly paid or not paid back at all.
Once again – I strongly urge you not to employ Ms Casana until she has given you a firm undertaking that all matters against her and her family have been fully investigated and promulgated by the various courts.
Ms Casana currently has two children in the custody of her father, mother and twin brothers. Her POEA and Dolphin contract is currently funding fugitives from the law. Three of which are now facing the courts for various charges. Ms Casana has knowingly financed their time on the run, moving from home to home, island to island in an attempt to hide from the law, showing contempt for truth and Justice in the Philippines.
Ms Casana returns to the Philippines on 20 October to face questions not only from the law, but from a married woman in Caluag by the name of Althea Lenor, questions from her own family including her elderly Grandmother, questions from her current employers, but more importantly questions from her 6 year and 3 year old sons.
Sincerely
Stephen Pentland
Justice of the Peace
C/- Attorney Auren Acuna
Roy (24.73.142.139)
05-21-2004, 09:45 PM
All the words and letters did you no good Cristina Casana now in America
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That is illegal whatever you are trying to sell. ***Honesty and integrity.*** Now, although this is further down the page, this is important to understand. Firstly, considering the sum of money involved, it is nonsense to even consider trying to abuse this system. You will simply get your monies worth with the fun you have. As mentioned above, placing yourself somewhere else in the list does not benefit you. The program revolves around you being honest with the small sum you send the member in position #1. Once you send the 3US$ to position #1 a quite eerie but pleasant thing happens. It gives you an indescribable, overwhelming sense of certainty, belief and conviction in the program. Basically what has happened is you have just proved to yourself, because you have done it, that there must be a great number of others ready to do exactly the same. And indeed this is very true. Take a look at using chat rooms and message boards below. Naturally if everybody didn't send the 3US$ payment then nobody, including yourself, would get anything. Thus the whole program breaks down. Personally I think that those that do not follow the instructions will not get the rewards and those that do will. Quite simply, " Play the game and believe" ***Reasons why some people don't give this program a try.*** 1) Some people think they can never make this much money with anything so simple. 2) Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying. Don't worry you will always have the last laugh. 3) Some people dream of substantial sums of money, but never do anything about it. 4) Some are just plain lazy 5) Some think this is a program designed to beat them out of a few dollars. Just give it a try! What do you have to loose? ***Using Outlook Express for maximum exposure.*** The best way is to simply send this message to all your address book at one time. This is very easy and quick. Click create mail and paste the letter into the new page. Enter the subject and include your name. For example, " From YOUR NAME, check out this amazing money making opportunity". Now click on the "To" tab to open your address book. Click just once on the very top address. Now scroll to the bottom of the list and click the last address once while holding the shift key. This will select all the addresses. Now simply click the "To: ->" tab to enter all the addresses into message recipients. Click "OK" to return to your e-mail and then send. It's that quick and that simple. ***Using chat rooms and message boards for maximum exposure.*** These are the best ways to get lots of people to view your message. If you are already a member of a chat room/s then simply go there and tell other members of this opportunity by posting this letter. To reach thousands of potential participants then it is message boards that you should concentrate on. Using such search engines as Altavista, Yahoo, Google or any other major/favourite search engine you can find thousands of message boards. Type in such phrases as, " message boards", "making money message boards", "making money forums", "business opportunities" etc. Go to as many as you can and post your message. I suggest you entitle your post as," Amazing, new, efficient money making opportunity that really works". Try to use as many different search engines as you can. HOT TIP! Try more obscure engines so that you do not post too closely to others posting this amazing letter. The other advantage of using such message boards is that you target those who are actually looking to participate and that is literally thousands of people all over the world. ***Creating and using a PayPal account.*** This program runs so perfectly, thanks largely to one of the best and most trusted on-line payment services, which currently boasts over 50 million members worldwide. Many internet users are already very familiar with the exemplarily and efficient service of PayPal. As an e-bay user then you certainly will have heard of it or indeed already have an account. If you have never heard of PayPal I encourage you to take a look at their homepage (https://www.paypal.com) or maybe search for some reviews, I am sure you will be impressed and it's absolutely free. Setting up an account. 1) On the home page of PayPal click the top right link " Sign Up" 2) Now select "Business Account" and enter your country. It is important that you select a business account, this will enable you to accept credit cards from other people. 3) Complete the requested details. If you do not have a business name then you can simply use your own name. 4) Once you have created and confirmed your account, this only takes a few minutes, then you will need to add some funds. You can do this by either sending money from your bank account or using your credit card. 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