OSHO Sannyasins Orange People

[Anonymous]

Concern over 'love' cult
By Simon Kearney
March 09, 2003

THE controversial Orange People cult has been accused of trying to lure children as young as 14 to weekend residential retreats at Byron Bay on the NSW north coast.

The group, now known as the Sannyasins, was once notorious for promoting free love among members. It is reported to have about 5000 members in and around Byron Bay.

Religious groups in the area are said to be banding together to try to fight the cult's influence.

Pamphlets were used to advertise the group's first weekend youth retreat last December.

One mother said they had been distributed at schools, sparking fears children could be lured into the group.

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[ann field (203.220.15.105)]

Oh get a life There is nothing to fear from Byron Bay sannyasins They are mostly interested in growing and meditating which will do your kids a lot less harm than going down to Nimbin or other things that young folk get up to The free love was mostly media hype and what there was went out with AIDS years ago Relax and worry about the REAL problems in your life like getting control of paranoia and allowing other people to make your afraid
about okay things and the media deceiving you about the things you should be doing things about Best wishes

[felicita (felicita)]

Many former Osho followers now belong to the group "Miracle of Love" (MOL). MOL teaches spiritual union with nonattachment, nonmonogamy. There is encouragement of free love, group sex, etc. MOL sponsors youth retreats/ Intensives, and have MOL youth houses where there is a lot of sexual acting out, drug use etc, as expression of the Divine Being.

[iljah (iljah)]

Well Love is stille free,and we are all whole salers of it,check out the basement of your store.After 25 years of beeing around Osho's people and meeting with thousands of them I must say there hasnot been a group I had more fun withand I found many of them a joy of beeing around them.Find out what it realy gives you when you judge life around you,does it bring you closer to happiness?
Isa

[solway (solway)]

What didn't bring me happiness is when my former lover an active MOL'r spent hours organizing, labeling and rearranging every aspect of his life at home, including his professional, and intimate relationships to try and "break free" from the cycle of death and rebirth. There was no room for me or baby in the scenario. What brought me happiness is being away from the insidious, circuitous, always serious with the lack of laughter (where is the joy when you are always trying to stay one step ahead of the illusion and trying to break free and yet at the same time live is a world of so much suffering) relationship. Wow NOW I am feeling the happiness and freedom!

[peteyseventy (peteyseventy)]

So Ann and Iljah... If the 'free love' thing went out with the AIDS epidemic, then why are they screening every new candidate to the Osho "Multiversity" in Puna, India for AIDS before allowing admittance? (If you don't believe me, READ THE OFFICIAL SITE!)

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but if a single, meditative visitor to the Osho centre met somebody they really liked and wanted to embark on a sexual relationship with, there would be facilities available for AIDS testing, not to mention condoms, available in the locality...surely? Why the COMPULSORY AIDS test at the door if not for some 'free love' hippy escapade? In my life, this test was only applied to me on a visit to Saudi Arabia, and that is a police state and nothing at all to do with 'Free Love'. (Freedom of expression in Northern Saudi Arabia, most certainly not encouraged).

The Osho "Multiversity" (WTF?? Note: Stupid, made up words DO NOT make it sound clever, neither does calling tennis 'Zennis' or proclaiming swimming as 'Fitness for the Witness', it's just all out tacky) is STILL a centre that draws in young, suggestable people and makes them believe that the "free love" thing is still an important factor in 'finding oneself', thus being the only way that a bunch of ugly old geezers can get to enjoy sex with young women. I call that initiative, I don't call that enlightenment, and I dread to think what goes through these poor girl's heads when they realise just what they were brainwashed into (if they ever realise). Tragic, it is.

Anyway, Osho (PROVEN, CONVICTED criminal, deported from the United States as a result of ignoring immigration laws and fraternising with Sannyasins who liked to poison people) is dead and gone and the crew that are now running his party in Puna appear to not share Osho's vision to the full. In fact, it all smacks of a moneymaking enterprise by a bunch of balding but still long-haired business-hippies with video tapes of a charismatic dead guy who want to rip off and screw young women. Again, initiative comes to the fore but spiritualism certainly does not. Osho was an orator, he was also a hypocrite and he was also involved in some particularly unsavoury occurences in a small town in America. The plaque is still there, celebrating his ignoble departure. He was no more a holy man than I, just a gifted orator but fundamentally lazy and opportunistic, still guys are getting sex off his back and a bunch of new agers are trying to form communities based on his words.
Before you exhort that hideous, unimaginative catchphrase to 'Get a life', I'd like to remind you that I have one. I'm happy inmyself, I've known my good times AND my bad and seen my deaths and my loves but that doesn't imply that I need to prescribe to ANY religion to understand it, least of all the psuedo religion of a bearded charleton, hell bent on getting laid.

[walkingby (walkingby)]

..just a short comment... 1) i really feel everyone should only talk about it's own personal experiences ... i read a couple of books by osho and i really reckon they give you something to think about, definetely i would reccomend anyone to read something from Osho, as i would suggest any other interesting book that make you think 2) i met some lovely people that are Osho's followers and it didn't seem to me they were after getting laid, not at all, on the contrary they were interested in spirituality 3) in all groups of people you find bad apples, that doesn't mean the all bunch is rotten!

[kat (kat)]

I have read some of oshos work and like all the great spiritual writers of today)Wayne Dyer Deepak Chopra Stuart Wilde etc.) I think he offers a positive perception. I know nothing of the man himself- What I do know is that the media is dangerous and deceptive- it is by far the greatest culprit of luring kids who need something to believe in.
Let's focus on the good s

[scooby_doobedoo]

Can someone advise me whether there is anything similar to the Byron Bay Sannyasins or MOL in or near Melbourne?

I'm interested in finding out more.

[swamiamrit]

I am very much agrry with "walkingby",he realy poit out that anyone should know or read some authentic literature before making comment for anyone...He rightly said that there is always bad apple in bunch that doesnot means that all apple are rotten..I even say here That before knowing Osho one should be open minded first and having not fake or dulal personality..
Sw. Amrit...

[chandrakavi]

an open mind is someething people who give the opinion through TV DO NOT INTEND TO HAVE.So journalits
later on,have been forced to write a book after
experiencing woderful things in meditation the editors
expect them to write something positive but something
negative has to be thrown in, to get more rating from
readers of the magazine or newspaper
It is strange that people who have never meditated,
never known Osho,
Never read his books,
Never gone to India to practice meditation there,
KNOW IT ALL, AND HAVE A VERY "CLEAR" OPINION
what choice do they have but to repeat what commentators have said on the media?
Itis better to experience
Many people from the media,actors,Intelligence people.Doctors, were copletly tranformed after
doing his meditatons,they liked the fact that people there were there because they wanted to
without IMPOSITION as it is in Organized religions
there is absolute freedom to live your life.
You can only enter the place once a VIH test has been done on you,so the place AIDS free.
If you prefer what TV has to say,and think for you,
don't go there, it is NOT FOR EVERYBODY, specially
NOT FO THE SCARY OF THE UNKNOWN, which is where a Master takes you to through meditation.
In tht case TAKE THE BLUE PILL AND STAY COZY IN THE MATRIX.