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onesimus_jones (onesimus_jones)
09-18-2005, 09:42 PM
I need to vent some. Thanks in advance for the liberty to do so.

I have been battling depression and bitterness lately. The cumulative effect of several different events have come to a head.

My son is 26. He and I were close when he was young, especially during the time when I was a single parent. He has messed himself up with drugs and is now involved in religous fanaticism. Though he lives near me, I never hear from him unless he needs money or to be bailed out of jail. Actually, I don't hear from him at all, because I won't give him money or bail him out of jail.

I often see him in town. He is disrespectful and insolent.

I worry about him committing suicide.

One day I heard on the radio that a man had jumped to his death from a local bridge.

I feared that it was my son.

Then the police called my employer asking for family info about one of my co-workers. He was the one who jumped. It was awful news, and yet a relief in a sense.

The man who jumped was a friend of mine. He had recently converted to Christianity and been baptized.

But he had been a meth addict for several years, and couldn't deal with issues related to that problem.

A friend of my daughter's killed herself ten days earlier. She had been in our home a couple of times. We knew she had serious problems, but I had seen her recently and she seemed uncharacteristically outgoing, giving me a friendly jab.

She shot herself over being abandoned by her husband.

I wanted to vent about all this on the CCG, to which I mistakenly thought I'd been reinstated.

Instead,the moderator started railing on me, bringing up the personal feud over which I had been banned, and then blaming me for it.

He refused to deal with it privately, either by phone or by e-mail.

Then he came on this forum to rail some more.

He also expressed eagerness to see a resumption of the personal feud - to which he claimed to have such abhorrence on CCG.

Now that Steve Born and yours truly are gone CCG is a sanctuary of healing.

Pay no attention to all the biting and devouring. Behind the curtain, lurkers at CCG are being healed en masse.

calv (calv)
09-18-2005, 10:01 PM
Hey One

I know anger and bitterness quite well myself. Like I said before, its easy to push someone into a corner or under the rug, the repression builds up and then the explosion. My how un christ like you are acting they say from the lofty position they hold. Who wouldnt get depressed! Yes its ok to vent, even healthy. Many of us were taught to keep it all a secret. Just leave it all at the foot of the cross. Makes me wondere if they really know what the cross was all about?
Your story is important! It reflects hundreds of other stories fro Community Chapel.... the ones they seem to ignore on ccg. Lets just white wash it all and talk about the greater truth (lies) we walked away with and must now build them back up!
Your voice is important here OJ ! Your story helps tell the story, It shines light on the truth (lies).....

onesimus_jones (onesimus_jones)
09-19-2005, 02:23 AM
I was hungry and you threw me a bone.

Thirsty and you gave me vinegar on a sponge.

Naked and you took pictures.

What you have done to the least of these doesn't matter, because of thy superior revelation.
<font size="-2">from the Esoteric Bible, published by Elite Gnostic Press</font>

The Body of Christ was trashed at the Chapel.

That is far more horrendous than all the soteriological, christological, and eschatological errors - real and imagined - put together.

Thanks for letting me vent.

I feel less bitter, not more, having done so.

At old CCBTC, I would have been counseled to get delivered from a self pity demon.

At the CyberChapel, it is called the sin of bitterness.

Bitter herbs aren't popular where that sweet agape syrup is flowing so freely.

steve26 (steve26)
09-19-2005, 06:08 AM
Onesimus,

I just got back from spending most of the day since noon at the Puyallup Fair and read your postings. Don't worry about the what has happened, or what may ever happen, on the CCG board. There's no reason to expect anything there. Everything to do with the Chapel has proven to be a dry well - it's just a lot of self-righteous noise. No one there really has any idea of what they're talking about. You are not any the worse off for having been deprived of that venue.

My prayers will be with your family and Joel.

movinon (movinon)
09-19-2005, 09:42 PM
One,

I liked what calv said about how we were told at CC to leave it at the foot of the cross...then he pondered if they really knew what the cross was all about. I don't think they really know what the cross is all about, just as I know that I'm continually learning what the cross is about.

One thing I know that it has to be about is supporting and caring for our brethren when they are hurting, not blaming them for their totally normal reactions to incredibly stressful circumstances, but holding them up with love, care, understanding, and prayerful support.

The first step to dealing with issues like this is to acknowledge them for what they are...real life problems that don't hide well under the sanctimonious cloak of fanatical christianity. You have encountered some really hard stuff lately, stuff that makes us realize that life isn't all so perfect and nice, that it doesn't always go the way we would like it to go. But I think you are a hardy kind of person and you have the strength of spirit and soul to come through this pain and heartache stronger.

I understand, perhaps more than words can say, and please know you are in our prayers...

mo

onesimus_jones (onesimus_jones)
09-19-2005, 10:38 PM
Thanks Calv, Steve, and Mo.

,,,the sanctimonious cloak of fanatical christianity.
That about sums it up.

When there is liberty to vent, I find no need to vent as vehemently as when there is an atmosphere of censorship.

Dave Kenady is probably disappointed - eager as he is for a verbal bloodbath on this forum.

Meanwhile, on CCG, they continue to bite and devour one another over nuances of language, trying to snare one another in their words.

jeepman (jeepman)
10-16-2005, 09:01 PM
Good afternoon. It's been awhile since I posted. Will there be a time when we can meet? There is much commonality here. I know one of you already, I have an LCMS backround educationally speaking and I love the Lord, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Breaking bread together would be a blessing. Perhaps we can even find a place to worship beforehand. Any thoughts?

Jeepman

onesimus (onesimus)
10-16-2005, 09:14 PM
Hi Jeepman,

I've missed you. Still have no contact info for you.

I give out stvmxwll@yahoo publicly, but don't check it as regularly as my other e-mail address.

Cell # is 417-546-7966, but only will be there another 45 minutes from this posting.

God bless,

Steve Maxwell

calv (calv)
10-17-2005, 05:59 AM
Steve

Its not hopeless! There is still time. I look at what so many of us have been thru. The important thing is to be willing to learn from our mistakes, and ask for help.
I know God is more than willing to meet us right where we are at. Others may tell us what we need to do in thier own opinion. No one has the right to tell us what to feel or how to act. We have been shamed by others, who shame out of thier own deception.
But there is hope. Many others have traveled the same path. I belive God will lead you in this time, I will be here for you as Im sure others will be too! This is a journy and we need each other to lift us up when we fall down. I see others who only offer the same old crap that got us here in the first place. I hope that we can set a differnt trend here . One that offers hope to those who suffer rather than victimizing in a "christian" way.
This site is about recovery!!! To me thats what really matters! We cant do it on our own.

calv

onesimus (onesimus)
10-18-2005, 01:45 AM
bump