nathan (nathan)
12-24-2005, 10:58 AM
[this document was transcribed from a handwritten copy taken from a court file RE: ccbtc.]
September 4, 1979
From: Donald Barnett
To: Jack Hicks, Scott Hartley & George Alberts
I am requiring that the following policy, attitudes, actions and restraints be implemented immediately in order to minimize the pressure on a number of people and their spouses and friends, and that the matter be handled Biblically, efficiently, and quickly. My wife and I are under terrible pressure w/physical symptoms and suffering and cannot keep up this long drawn-out "watergate" affair much longer. Both Rob & Chris
Bradley are under much pressure & Rob cannot handle it and could have serious demonic attacks if this matter is not laid to rest. Sandi and Lyle are under severe pressure and as are many others.
The facts are that the scriptures demand that accusations against an elder be not w/o witnesses. There are no witnesses. I deny Sandi's charges made to Chris. Therefore, I am not on trial. I do not have to clear myself. This is not the issue. Further, past errors on my part are under the blood of Christ. No one has a right to involve themselves or other or the parties involved with past matters. I am in right conscience before the lord. Some are receiving that accusation--they therefore are in violation of scripture. This seriously impacts my relationship with them and puts me under terrible pressure for I can have no confidence in their confidence toward me.
The issue is what the pastor is alledging of a false accuser. This cannot be allowed to stand. Sandi admitted before Scott & J, last night, to lying in all three questions that I asked her. One question concerned alleged physical actions, the others, violating promises made before God in which respected oaths to God were being continually made to false statements. This destroys her credibility. Both Rob & Chris are witnesses to her unreliablity in the areas of truth. My wife is a witness to my honesty over the years with her and others. Chris accuses Sandi of outright lies in this
matter. Chris wanted a confrontation between Sandi, Chris & I on the facts, before Sandi & Chris broke relationship. Sandi refused. Sandi has agreed to a lie detector test. This is the next step. I direct George to request this of her. I suspect that she may back down because even with lying spirits involved (my guess), because she consciously knows she is lying. Sandi has refused to follow my pastoral lead and instead has turned to Frank to guide her. If Sandi agrees to a lie detector test, I will write the questions and direct the matter through George.
I insist that all investigation in this matter cease except as I may direct. For the moment, there is no point in dragging on the constant back and forth interrogations if Sandi is confronted with such a test. Everytime anyone says anything to anyone on this matter, there is a chain reaction of words and emotions to many people. This is tearing peoples emotions and sleep and peace up. I will direct all future action 1 step at a time to minimize duplications and confrontations and hurts. On the other matter, I will _________ till I hear the tapes. Thank you for your support. Love, Don.
P.S. I want George to ask Frank why he talked w/Sandi Mon. nite when he said he had turned the matter over to the Eldership. I asked to talk w/Sandi. I had a hidden tape recorder. I am quite sure I could have taped a completely different story than what Sandi told Frank. Frank, if he would have been faithful to his statement would have directed her to Scott or George. If Frank had any confidence and real submission to his pastor, would have directed her to obey him. Had Frank done this, the entire group would know the truth, but he still, acting independently, prevented the truth from being known & therefore it may never be known to them, hurting our
relationship & my peace, for a long time! I want to know what Frank told her. I also want George to find out how what I said about Sandi in the meeting and what my wife said about Sandi on the phone got back to Sandi. Ask Frank & Marlene & Jessers & Thurners. My wife denies that she said on the phone what Sandi told me my wife said--although the implication could be drawn. This is a serious breech. Ron spoke for the group saying that this information will never leave this group. It did. The result: I couldn't get Sandi to talk w/me, therefore I missed the tape recording! Such are the consequences because of lack of proper submission and integrity. Also, I want george to ask Frank
what he told Sandi re: other alleged past cases with me and ladies of the church and the supposed revelations of the group. Sandi knows--someone told. This is undermining the pastor and is grossly wrong! I want this done right away & I want a report back promptly. Frank should be made to understand the seriousness and wrong of such things if he is implicated. If Frank denies it, ask Sandi, w/o revealing any details. Also, my information is that Marlene was going to ask Keith Johnson to join them in Cal. & that Mike Waters asked Carol Peake to join them. This is improper! They should come thru
the pastor for all such requests. Please notify them. Also check and see if Marlene admits she said that I lied. See attachment. Please explain the wrongness of such action. It destroys my confidence in them as well. Ask Frank what his submission is to the pastor at this time. Does he have to see things his way & do things his way in order to be submitted, or can he allow difference of understandings? Does he have to run the church w/o mistakes & in top form or can he submit while God is teaching me? Will he feel the same if he pastors?
September 4, 1979
From: Donald Barnett
To: Jack Hicks, Scott Hartley & George Alberts
I am requiring that the following policy, attitudes, actions and restraints be implemented immediately in order to minimize the pressure on a number of people and their spouses and friends, and that the matter be handled Biblically, efficiently, and quickly. My wife and I are under terrible pressure w/physical symptoms and suffering and cannot keep up this long drawn-out "watergate" affair much longer. Both Rob & Chris
Bradley are under much pressure & Rob cannot handle it and could have serious demonic attacks if this matter is not laid to rest. Sandi and Lyle are under severe pressure and as are many others.
The facts are that the scriptures demand that accusations against an elder be not w/o witnesses. There are no witnesses. I deny Sandi's charges made to Chris. Therefore, I am not on trial. I do not have to clear myself. This is not the issue. Further, past errors on my part are under the blood of Christ. No one has a right to involve themselves or other or the parties involved with past matters. I am in right conscience before the lord. Some are receiving that accusation--they therefore are in violation of scripture. This seriously impacts my relationship with them and puts me under terrible pressure for I can have no confidence in their confidence toward me.
The issue is what the pastor is alledging of a false accuser. This cannot be allowed to stand. Sandi admitted before Scott & J, last night, to lying in all three questions that I asked her. One question concerned alleged physical actions, the others, violating promises made before God in which respected oaths to God were being continually made to false statements. This destroys her credibility. Both Rob & Chris are witnesses to her unreliablity in the areas of truth. My wife is a witness to my honesty over the years with her and others. Chris accuses Sandi of outright lies in this
matter. Chris wanted a confrontation between Sandi, Chris & I on the facts, before Sandi & Chris broke relationship. Sandi refused. Sandi has agreed to a lie detector test. This is the next step. I direct George to request this of her. I suspect that she may back down because even with lying spirits involved (my guess), because she consciously knows she is lying. Sandi has refused to follow my pastoral lead and instead has turned to Frank to guide her. If Sandi agrees to a lie detector test, I will write the questions and direct the matter through George.
I insist that all investigation in this matter cease except as I may direct. For the moment, there is no point in dragging on the constant back and forth interrogations if Sandi is confronted with such a test. Everytime anyone says anything to anyone on this matter, there is a chain reaction of words and emotions to many people. This is tearing peoples emotions and sleep and peace up. I will direct all future action 1 step at a time to minimize duplications and confrontations and hurts. On the other matter, I will _________ till I hear the tapes. Thank you for your support. Love, Don.
P.S. I want George to ask Frank why he talked w/Sandi Mon. nite when he said he had turned the matter over to the Eldership. I asked to talk w/Sandi. I had a hidden tape recorder. I am quite sure I could have taped a completely different story than what Sandi told Frank. Frank, if he would have been faithful to his statement would have directed her to Scott or George. If Frank had any confidence and real submission to his pastor, would have directed her to obey him. Had Frank done this, the entire group would know the truth, but he still, acting independently, prevented the truth from being known & therefore it may never be known to them, hurting our
relationship & my peace, for a long time! I want to know what Frank told her. I also want George to find out how what I said about Sandi in the meeting and what my wife said about Sandi on the phone got back to Sandi. Ask Frank & Marlene & Jessers & Thurners. My wife denies that she said on the phone what Sandi told me my wife said--although the implication could be drawn. This is a serious breech. Ron spoke for the group saying that this information will never leave this group. It did. The result: I couldn't get Sandi to talk w/me, therefore I missed the tape recording! Such are the consequences because of lack of proper submission and integrity. Also, I want george to ask Frank
what he told Sandi re: other alleged past cases with me and ladies of the church and the supposed revelations of the group. Sandi knows--someone told. This is undermining the pastor and is grossly wrong! I want this done right away & I want a report back promptly. Frank should be made to understand the seriousness and wrong of such things if he is implicated. If Frank denies it, ask Sandi, w/o revealing any details. Also, my information is that Marlene was going to ask Keith Johnson to join them in Cal. & that Mike Waters asked Carol Peake to join them. This is improper! They should come thru
the pastor for all such requests. Please notify them. Also check and see if Marlene admits she said that I lied. See attachment. Please explain the wrongness of such action. It destroys my confidence in them as well. Ask Frank what his submission is to the pastor at this time. Does he have to see things his way & do things his way in order to be submitted, or can he allow difference of understandings? Does he have to run the church w/o mistakes & in top form or can he submit while God is teaching me? Will he feel the same if he pastors?