steveb (steveb)
02-05-2006, 07:59 PM
In recent years, some ex-Chapelites who have retained the anti-Trinitarian theology they learned at the Chapel have moved to a position in which they no longer believe Jesus to be God, saying that the Chapel's "dual nature" doctrine, which portrayed Jesus as both man and God, was incorrect. They say that this gives a greater clarity to Jesus' true significance for us, an example of humanity that Trinitarian doctrine obscures. The following postings from the "Community Chapel Gathering" discussion board last fall are typical of this reasoning. I would like to use these postings to show why I, by contrast, think that the Trinitarian Christology of one person in two natures is crucial to Biblical faith:
Participant A wrote, <blockquote><font color="0000ff">...I always understood Christ to be a living example for me, not just a supernatural expression of unattainable deified perfection.</font></blockquote>Participant B wrote in another thread,<blockquote><font color="0000ff">...if we can grasp the relationship Jesus had with his father then we too can start a relationship with the father and with Jesus that is much deeper than we have experienced in the last 2,000 years. ie we can be one with them.</font></blockquote>Participant C wrote in response to Participant B's posting,<blockquote><font color="0000ff">This really is what it is all about. So many of the debates bypass the reason for seeking the truth--that is, to have a deeper relationship with God. I agree, there is great transforming power in seeing the relationship of the son Jesus, with his Father God.
So many times I hear folks staunchly defending the "deity of Jesus". I understand that we all value holding to the truth of scriptures. But what does the believing in the deity of Jesus do for anyone? I am not sure. When we submit to learning about Jesus' relationship with his father, and conforming ourselves to it--well now there is something to build your faith and your walk.</font></blockquote>However, I myself say that if it's not what scripture teaches, then it is not something that one's faith can be built upon, or should be built upon.
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Participant A wrote, <blockquote><font color="0000ff">...I always understood Christ to be a living example for me, not just a supernatural expression of unattainable deified perfection.</font></blockquote>Participant B wrote in another thread,<blockquote><font color="0000ff">...if we can grasp the relationship Jesus had with his father then we too can start a relationship with the father and with Jesus that is much deeper than we have experienced in the last 2,000 years. ie we can be one with them.</font></blockquote>Participant C wrote in response to Participant B's posting,<blockquote><font color="0000ff">This really is what it is all about. So many of the debates bypass the reason for seeking the truth--that is, to have a deeper relationship with God. I agree, there is great transforming power in seeing the relationship of the son Jesus, with his Father God.
So many times I hear folks staunchly defending the "deity of Jesus". I understand that we all value holding to the truth of scriptures. But what does the believing in the deity of Jesus do for anyone? I am not sure. When we submit to learning about Jesus' relationship with his father, and conforming ourselves to it--well now there is something to build your faith and your walk.</font></blockquote>However, I myself say that if it's not what scripture teaches, then it is not something that one's faith can be built upon, or should be built upon.
[Continued in the next posting...]