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onesimus (onesimus)
03-11-2006, 01:21 PM
I've been thinking about the Chapel kids you mentioned on CCG, Calvin. One of them was a neighbor of mine when Joel and I first moved to Seattle.

The horrendous suicide of the Heber girl. And I can think of at least three families who have lost a child in an accident.

I have lost my Joel to this world. Only a miracle can bring him back. His birthday came the other day, and I have no idea where he is. He has been out of our lives for several years now. He will drop in out of the blue every few months. He was on drugs for a long time, but he looked a lot better last time I saw him, except that he was babbling incoherently about various scriptures and claiming to be a prophet. I worry about him harming himself.

For many years I have been less of a husband and father than my ladies deserve, though Lurlee says I've been doing better lately. My precocious 14 year old, Naomi, said to me once, "it's like Joel died, and took part of you with him."

The doctor said if I don't lose weight I'm not going to live long. I need to get up and go on without my son. God has blessed me with a great wife and two fantastic daughters.

I guess I'd be grateful for continued prayers.

Thanks,

Steve Maxwell

calv (calv)
03-11-2006, 01:53 PM
Steve

It takes courage to be real!
I look back at things I did and wonder what was the impact of my actions.
I used drugs to numb the pain of shame based systems,
but I also knew the Lord at the same time.
I am one of those kids! still.
Doing what I did to survive I became a bad influince on some of those kids I didn't enable them but I modeled that behaviour.
We are all part of a bigger system a lot of roles are played in them... every role has its sin....

These kids carry the shame thats put on them...scapegoats... and are sent out into the wilderness. Attemps to come back are met w more shame. For some reason we choose that role because that is what we really belive about ourselfs. It starts out at a very early age and progresses thru our lives.

I belive there is hope for all these kids.... the Joels and Michelles and others that I know of ...
Its not about blame... but Its seeing the thing that drives them... shame.

You are in my prayers Steve!
Thanks for being a friend !

calv

calv
03-14-2006, 11:43 PM
So a pediphile gets caught and pays for the rest of his life. Spiritual Leaders have sex with numerous women
or are closet homosexuals... and nothing ever happens!

Why?

What kind of role models were we at cc for the second generation? The kids had no choice all they knew was what we as adults modeled for them!
Sure we have lots of excuses for what we did but what is the long term effect?

Do we all have a bad seed in us so that we make our own decisions? Or does early childhood enviroments form unhealthy thinking in us?

Who is at fault? How do we make amendes to those we have harmed?
Covering up sins of others and enabling them to continue thier destrutive behaviours and the cycle continues....
DENIAL

Deflecting the real issues for what????

WHAT is the real agenda?

justice for the children of cc and thier children...
or to get back to peconnection chapel where the roots of the disaster began?

Im just sick of the double standards people manifest in the name of christianity....

the judges and jury made up of exccrs.... its a very twisted lot.... what does the future hold???

Only time will tell....