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[activelypunchingdata (65.197.92.220)]

www.catholicconcerns.com

[raqueltheflyingsquirrel (65.197.92.220)]

I believe we are in the last days,and being a pre-trib rapture believer,I believe we must be ready to go meet Jesus,or we just won't get to go.
The parable of the ten virgins gives a good example of this.
Blessings and good fellowship to all.

[Pit Bull (209.73.227.219)]

Hi raquel:

What makes you think this?

Does this apply to people who do not believe this too?

I just find it hard to believe that only certain people who are able to somehow believe the unbelievable are to be chosen for eternity and the rest choses for an eternity of torment.

Just doesn't add up.

[Anonymous (69.242.21.100)]

JESUS SAYS "I am THE WAY the TRUTH and THE LIFE no man comes to the father but by me"

[Anonymous (69.242.21.100)]

Jesus says" I go and prepare a place for you and WHEN I COME AGAIN I will receive you unto myself"

[Anonymous (207.191.232.17)]

God created the world gave it to man we mess the garden up. God sent his son Jesus then man mess him up. Son gave his life that we may have a way out of our mess. back to the father and he has set it in a time frame .Now if we believe it or not it does't matter . What will be ,will be so I will take a chance to be on the right side with God . I'll have nothing to loose but everthing to win. Linda /in Memphis

[misty888 (misty888)]

Prehaps everyone who comes to YHVH comes through Jesus even if they never heard of Christianity.
Just an opinion. Religion is all opinion and can't be proved either way.

The pre trib rapture folks will have a crisis of faith when they are tested during the tribulation. I am looking forward to the test and the adventure. A chance to witness YHVH to the lost.

Misty

[nwmomike (nwmomike)]

You're only correct in that religion itself is opinion. But religion is man's attempt to reach God. But true faith is God revealing Himself to mankind and a personal relationship with Him. He has given us His word and it is confirmed with prophecies which no one but God could know about. In that we can trust what else it says. I don't think you could, by your own opinion only convince anyone or even yourself your religion can do anything to save you. It's utter nonsense to believe in a creator God that leaves people to only opinion to find Him. It's only logical that He would leave something for us to know Him through and that is through His word primarily.

Michael

[infoman (infoman)]

http://www.catholicconcerns.com/MaryWorship.html
This is the good words of a former Catholic Nun.

[egk (egk)]

Hi,

I have quick comment on Mary Collins’ catholicconcerns website. Basically, she does not presents Catholic teaching fully. Here an example taken from her site:

<font color="0000ff">IMMACULATE CONCEPTION -- Mary was preserved from all stain of original sin from the first instant of her conception. ("Catechism" 490-492).
In Luke 1:46-47, Mary said: "My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour". Mary knew that she needed a savior.
The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception was first introduced by a heretic (a man whose teachings were officially declared to be contrary to Church doctrine). For centuries this doctrine was unanimously rejected by popes, Fathers and theologians of the Catholic Church. (Note 13)
ALL-HOLY -- Mary, "the All-Holy," lived a perfectly sinless life. ("Catechism" 411, 493)
Romans 3:23 says "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God". Revelation 15:4 says, "Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? For thou only art holy". Romans 3:10 says, "There is none righteous, no, not one".
Jesus is the only person who is referred to in Scripture as sinless. Hebrews 4:15 says, "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." 2 Corinthians 5:21 says, "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 1 Peter 2:22 says, "Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth".
In contrast, Mary said that God is her Savior. (Luke 1:47) If God was her Savior, then Mary was not sinless. Sinless people do not need a Savior.
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Please note what the Catechism says in the sections she "summarizes". (The emphaises are mine.)
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490 To become the mother of the Savior, Mary "was enriched by God with gifts appropriate to such a role." The angel Gabriel at the moment of the annunciation salutes her as "full of grace". In fact, in order for Mary to be able to give the free assent of her faith to the announcement of her vocation, it was necessary that she be wholly borne by God's grace.

491 Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, "full of grace" through God, was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854:


The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin.

492 The "splendor of an entirely unique holiness" by which Mary is "enriched from the first instant of her conception" comes wholly from Christ: she is "redeemed, in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son". The Father blessed Mary more than any other created person "in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places" and chose her "in Christ before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless before him in love".

493 The Fathers of the Eastern tradition call the Mother of God "the All-Holy" (Panagia), and celebrate her as "free from any stain of sin, as though fashioned by the Holy Spirit and formed as a new creature". By the grace of God Mary remained free of every personal sin her whole life long. </font>

Please note how Mary Collins in her article states part of what the Immaculate Conception means (that “Mary was conceived without sin”) but fails to state this is the result of God’s grace through the merits of Jesus. She then takes her incomplete doctrine and “proves” that Catholics believe that Mary didn’t need a savior. This is NOT Catholic teaching!

This is unfortunately the approach taken in many articles in her site.

If you want to learn what the Catholic Church teaches, there are a number of good books and websites. I would suggest you start with “Catholic and Christian” by Dr. Alan Schreck and “Rome Sweet Home” by Dr. Scott Hahn. (Dr Hahn was a fundamentalistic Presbyterian who set out to prove the RCC was the whore of Babylon.) The Coming Home Network http://www.chnetwork.org/ is geared to Protestant pastors thinking of becoming Catholic, since many on the staff are former Evangelicals, they can explain RC teaching in ways many nonCatholics can understand. Catholics United for the Faith http://www.cuf.org/ is another good organization for information concerning Catholic Teaching. *IF* you seriously want to understand what the RCC teaches or you seriously want to discuss theological differences between the RCC and Protestantism, contact them. They get enough from those who only want to argue, so don’t bother to contact them if you just wish to argue.

Thanks.

EGK

PS Please check out this site

http://mariology.com/sections/reformers.html

to see what Luther, Calvin, and Zwigli felt about Mary.

[steelsword (steelsword)]

So egk you are saying grace came through conception for Mary &amp; not by the blood of the Cross?

[egk (egk)]

Steelsword,

<font color="0000ff">So egk you are saying grace came through conception for Mary &amp; not by the blood of the Cross?</font>

Of course NOT! The redemption won for all through the blood of Jesus was given by God to Mary at the time of her conception. Her conception was the time at which she was saved, the means by which she was saved is the same as for the rest of us. (Please carefully reread paragraph 491 of the Catechism I quoted above.)

I have been told, but I have not been able to confirm this, that Luther or one of the other early Protestant Reformers, held Mary's Immaculate Conception as the clearest example of salvation by grace alone.

EGK