Conservative Catholic Cults

[Steve]

In 1972 my middle class family was destroyed by a man claiming to be the only remnant left of the true Catholic Church. Francis Schukardt, who now claims to be Pope Hadrian VII, left behind thousands of broken families from 1970-present. He established a cult like situation called "The Community" which hid behind traditional Catholic teachings. He forbid TV, movies, newspapers, magazines, etc... - no contact with the outside world. Women were forced to wear long dresses. Long ceremonies attended by people with little sleep- abuse of children - the list goes on and on. Stories of his own sexual deviancy finally came to light around 1987 when he was run out by his own followers after siphoning millions of dollars from the church coffers. I have heard that he is still sucking people in. If anyone knows where he is now, please let me know. I am curious to know how the man that ruined my family is doing.
Steve in California

[Anonymous]

most groups like the one you have describe
are extremely controling and into complete
submisson. They use blind obedience to
their bishops and archbishops yet are
completely hypocritical when it comes
to being faithful to the teachings of
the magisterium of the catholic faith.
Society of St. Pius the Tenth and the
groups that split from them and the groups
that split from the split; spliters groups.
All faithful to a traditional dress and
traditional rituals which claims them to
be faithful to the church.
Anyone who leaves these groups and have made
friends in them are treated like lepers.
Family members that are still in these sects
treat their families that have left as
if they didn't exsist. Not unless they are
around other family members like in a family
reunion then they become twofaced.
They lack the charity and simply demand that
the Holy Father be obedient to church laws
that can and do change. Jesus died on the
cross for all and yet they waited to see
if He would come down off the cross.
Archbishop Fulton Sheen had said:
To remain on the cross is divine (as Christ is)
to come down from it is human.
This is what the Society of the Pius the tenthers do they want it to be their way, and not the
way of the cross. Their group is a sect, and nothing less. Thank God I am out and still believe
in my faith that God is merciful and loving.
Jesus warned us when He said that their would
be wolves in sheeps clothing.
The attitude of these groups are hypocritical
and they reflect pharisitical attitudes.
They are to be steered clear of!
Their leaders are like ravaneous wolves.
Children are pited against parents and parents
against children. They warn the children if
they complain to their parents that they will
tell their parents otherwise, and that the
parents won't believe them.
They are Sick Sick Sick.

Not everyone who says Lord lord will get into
the kingdom but those who do the WiLL of My
Father!!

[Anonymous]

There are groups which take disgruntled Catholics who have dropped out, change them, especially the kids, then put them back not just in the Catholic church but with very influential roles if they are conditioned anti-church.

[Anonymous]

I have denounced a sect in Lima Peru now I am being suit , my child is an american girl, I am alone in this country , they are threatening me with a mental hospital, here nobody acepts a complaint against the catholic church, it is a mafia , please if you can help me write to me to natybebe@yahoo.com thanks.

[Anonymous]

The lady that says she has denounced a "sect" in Lima Peru is almost right. She has been troubleing her daughter whos is so scared that has asked the Family Judicial System to help her. She is 24 years old. She teaches in the Peruvian English Institute. The mother has began claims agaist the daughters boy friend, against some priests, against the mormons, against the parents of the young woman who has asked protección from the police because she is afraid of her mother abducting her. The law courts have stablished that the lady of natybebe@yahoo.com is mentally ill.

[Jacon Gidmaier]

WHO is the Lady. She is an abusive mother that has created hell for her daughter and is in a campaing to get money from her daughter. With mother like that... it is obvious Law Courts have to act and protect the young women from her mother.

[One non-cultish Catholic]

I am a bit opposed by reading that the general Catholic church is called a CULT. I was raide Catholic and there is nothing cultlike in the church. The reason why I am saying this is because I am not forced to do ANYTHING I don;t want to. If I don't want to go to church...so be it. If I don't have money to give on sunday.....so be it. NOONE asks me about that.......NOONE. My Catholic priest never forces me to give money......if I don't want to give I don;t have to. I never had anyone from the churhc come to my house to collect money from me. IT IS MY OWN DECISION.
Heck, I have heard of the local Baptist minister receiving over $10 000 dollar last Christmas from the parish as a christmas present.....and ALL were asked to give......and my friend also told me they came to the house to collect money for the Baptist minister. THAT is sign of a cult......but does anyone consider Baptists to be a cult?

IMO, the Cults/Sects that claim to be catholic or of Catholic origin have to be some extremist that are a bit wacko. I just feel so sad to read that the general Catholic is considered to be a Cultmember according to this site.

This is very sad and I wish that ppl would not judge and consider everyone who is catholic to be a cultmember, just because there are a few freaks who claim to be real catholics.

One more thing. I do feel that if a Catholic priest abuses a child in ANY WAY it is WRONG, totally and he will pay infront of the maker and should also be punished on earth..........but that does not make the religion itself a cult either. If every religion where there had been sex and child abuse cases
would be considered to be a cult.......then we would not have any religion left....just cults.

Sincerely,
one non-cultish catholic!

[bill james]

If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty.’
- (All the sayings of Jesus gathered form ancient sources and complied into a single volume for the first time. Compiled by Ricky Alan Mayotte) From "The Complete Jesus." (Pg 71) Jesus

did you church tell you he siad that

[Anonymous (172.158.189.239)]

Ther is only one Son of God. That is Jesus Christ. What you claim is blasphemy. You are not God.

[activelypunchingdata (65.197.92.220)]

The Catholic church says it was the first church.
The Bible says that The Gospel was first given to the jew's,not the romans.
The priests in the bible are all jewish,as only they can really be priests,and they may get married,only to clean women.
Priests in the bible did not wear black,and they didn't teach pergatory,or any of the catholic rituals.None of what the catholic's do is taught from the bible.They hail Mary,and mary would not want to be worshiped,she,herself worshiped God,and he was her father whom she helped come to the earth to save us.She's his daughter,not his mother.Also,Mary was a women,a very good woman,yet still a woman.
I have gone to the catholic church and four of my children were baptised in it,until finally my husband and I learned the truth about it.
The catholic religion lie's it's tail off by claiming that our Peter in the holy bible was there first Pope,yet Peter teaches against what they believe,and they killed Peter in a cruel death,then they lied and said he was their first Pope.They killed all those who would not denie the Gospel of Jesus Christ,and it's all recorded in History,and history supports the bible.
They are so pagan that they even celebrate halloween by taking food to the cemetery to the graves of the dead. Their bible has false books added to it that the true christians would not allow into the bible canon.Check out the book of Tobit in their bible and see for yourself,and I believe those people they confess to, tell the secrets of those who go to confessional,ect....
we had a priest who got caught having an affair with a woman in town,and I think she was married,but not sure,either way,he just checked himself into a mental hospital and hasn't been seen since.one other priest who was to baptise our baby girl made fun of her name.I think Savannah is a nice name.
I do not want to offend any catholics out there,I just want to help them learn the truth,so they can get free from The Mother Harlot,and yes,she has daughters who are now coming back to her so all of us must be very careful!My husband was raised in the catholic church and was an alter bow,and he is so happy he got out of that church.He feels God called him out of it,amen.
www.catholicconcerns.com
A former Nun who wants to help others can be found at the above site.She is a very precious lady.She really understands the heart break of catholics who learn they have been betrayed.
Blessings to all of you.

[GORDON CAMPBELL (198.103.40.3)]

ACTIVELYPUNCHINGDATA-I HOPE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT ONE OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS FORBIDS FALSELY ACCUSING ONE'S NEIGHBOUR.I'VE NEVER READ SUCH DRIVEL AND CALUMNOUS LIES CONCERNING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.THE FIRST POPE WAS ST PETER AND WAS EXECUTED BY ROMAN AUTHORITIES FOR PREACHING CHRIST'S TRUTH AND INSITUTING HIS CHURCH.

[Anonymous (68.253.183.125)]

Activelypunchingdata,
I am sorry to see you so misinformed concerning the Catholic Church. I suggest before you post any more messages that you learn what the Catholic Church teaches and not what some disgruntled nun tells you.

[reggie (reggie)]

Hi,
I'm new to this site and I have a question. For the past 10 years I have been searching for answers regarding my childhood experience in a Commune known as Mount Hope, which was located in NY state during the 60's and 70's. Please help.

[webster (webster)]

Steve in California, Your post about Francis Schukardt has been quite awile ago but if you still curious about him. He is in the Seattle Washington area. I still have family members who are in his cult. Webster

[alphaomega (alphaomega)]

Apostolic Succession from Peter onwards is a LIE LIE LIE!!! don't fall for it.

[hummbabybear (hummbabybear)]

"Jerry, its not a lie, if YOU believe it"

-George Costanza

[marypaul (marypaul)]

reggie (reggie)
New member
Username: reggie

Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2005
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 9:55 pm:

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Hi,
I'm new to this site and I have a question. For the past 10 years I have been searching for answers regarding my childhood experience in a Commune known as Mount Hope, which was located in NY state during the 60's and 70's. Please help.

Reggie,
I lived at Mount Hope for 15 yrs. Feel free to contact me at m.vanderhaar@insightbb.com