The Lying Holidays of Roman Catholicism

[leftin1991]

"He that believeth not God hath made Him a liar." - 1 John 5:10

It has been taught for centuries that Christ was crucified on "Good Friday," laid in the tomb just before sunset, and that he arose very early on Easter Sunday morning. Tradition has so firmly planted that belief into the minds of most Christians that it is generally taken for a fact without serious investigation. This THEORY, although believed by many people, is impossible to prove from the Bible.

The doctrine of "Good Friday" is a false teaching which infects every major Christian denomination, and most of the minor ones. It is perpetuated by the Protestant churches, and was passed down to them from the Roman Catholics. Strangely enough, even the most staunchly anti-Catholic groups such as the Mennonites, Jehovah's Witnesses, 7th-Day Adventists, and the majority of ministers in the United Pentecostal Church have sided with the pope of Rome on this issue. They seem to be singing a quartet of unbelief by rationalizing that the words of Christ are not literally true! This is both peculiar and highly suspect.

Have you every stopped to count the days from Friday to Sunday? Strictly speaking, the count of two nights and one day is the best that can be done with this traditional period of time. But, we hear Jesus speaking from Matthew 12:40, "FOR AS JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE WHALE'S BELLY; SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH." Evidently the 7th-Day Adventists can count to seven, but they cannot count to three!

This means then that Christ had to be crucified on Wednesday to be in the earth three days AND THREE NIGHTS. It is of no use of the world's trying to get around it, there is absolutely no other way for Him to have been in the grave three days and three nights unless he was placed there on a Wednesday. Mark 8:31, "...and AFTER three days rise again." Christ himself defined the length of a day, "Are there not twelve hours in a day?" (John 11:9). Thus the "inclusive reckoning" idea cannot be applied here, for it is of course implied that there must also be twelve hours in a night.

We submit that the orthodox view fails, and those who teach it are nullifying the sign of the prophet Jonah. "For the Jews require a sign" (1 Cor. 1:22). When the Pharisees had requested a sign that he was the true Messiah, there was no other sign given but that one! No wonder Satan has caused unbelievers to scoff at the story of Jonah and the great fish. Most Christian churches today are contradicting even his accusers, for it was they who said to Pilate, "Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, AFTER three days I will rise again..." (Mat. 27:63). If we say that he did not do what he said he would do, then he would be a liar, and how could a liar be our Saviour? He would be an impostor, and in need of a Saviour himself!

[leftin1991]

The entire crucifixion and resurrection event is the miraculous sign Jesus offered to the unbelieving Jews of his messiahship. It includes the "three days and three nights" duration of his entombment. Therefore, this Scriptural truth ought not be overlooked, forgotten, or diminished in any way. If was the Jewish belief at that time that when a person died his spirit remained within his body for three days. Jesus had to be in the tomb for three days, not only to fulfill His own prophecy concerning Himself, but also to keep the Jews from claiming that he had not really been dead. To teach Good Friday is to give the unbelieving Jews just one more reason to not believe. Certainly none of the apostles could have ever done such a thing.

The thing that confuses people is that the scripture says the day on which Jesus was crucified was the preparation for the sabbath because it was the day before the sabbath. Nevertheless, we must remember that Paul speaks of sabbath days. There was the seventh-day sabbath, and there were seven other days of rest, given in Leviticus 23, which could fall on any days of the week, and they were all called high sabbaths. If was for one of these such days that the Jews were preparing. John 19:31, "for that sabbath day was an high day..." Passover was not usually a Sabbath, but is the preparation for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is one of these seven annual high sabbaths.

The Gospels cannot be harmonized to make Matthew's account of the women's visit late on the Sabbath coincide with their visits on Sunday morning, as reported by the other Gospel writers. While the women's visits to the sepulchre described by Mark, Luke and John took place early Sunday morning, Matthew reports that the women visited the tomb "in the end of the sabbath" and found it empty. Biblical days begin and end at sunset. "As it began to dawn (draw on) toward the first day of the week" therefore means that this visit and the earthquake were late Saturday afternoon at dusk. "Dawn" in this instance (epiphosko), Strongs #2020) does not refer to the rising of the sun. The women came late on the sabbath and found the grave already EMPTY! This same word "epiphosko" is also used in Luke 23:54, "...and the Sabbath drew on."

The foundation of this tradition has its root in pagan antiquity. One of the earliest references to Friday's being a holiday is found in the Mithraism cult, an offshoot of Zoroastrianism. In Persia during the sixth century this day was called Black Friday, and the story goes that Mithras slew a bull one Friday. Subsequently the bull laid in a tomb for three days and supposedly arose on the third day.

The Mithras cult believed that from the blood of this bull sprang forth all life. It was this same pagan cult that was very powerful in Rome before and after the rise of the Catholic organization. The influence of Friday was so strongly felt until the Catholic church associated it with the death and resurrection of Christ. So then, five days after the day they call Palm Sunday comes a day which the people refer to as "Good Friday." Any attempt to reconcile Good Friday with the Scripture is futile. The pope himself cannot prove Good Friday and Easter Sunday to be sanctioned by the Scriptures, nor can anyone else.

[pro610]

Easter is the celebration of Christ’s Resurrection. The fact that when it was first celebrated the feast of the Resurrection coincided with pagan celebrations doesn’t mean it was derived from them. The Jewish Passover (on which Christ was crucified) also coincided with such celebrations, yet this didn’t mean it was pagan.

The devil does not own ANY Individual DAY!


Easter Controversy
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05228a.htm

[yaakov2]

<font color="0000ff">There was the seventh-day sabbath, and there were seven other days of rest, given in Leviticus 23, which could fall on any days of the week, and they were all called high sabbaths. If was for one of these such days that the Jews were preparing.</font>

I never heard of a "high sabbath" before. I searched on the Jewish sites I frequent and found nothing. So, I did a google search. All the hits are Christian sites. Apparently, the only place this term is mentioned is in John in the Christian bible. So, this is a Christian concept, nothing to do with Judaism.

[leftin1991]

Well yaakov, perhaps someone needs correct John the Apostle that he is using an "unauthorized" (?) term in the Bible.

pro610, "Easter" is an anti-semitic observance, because the Catholics devised this fancy formula so that it will <u>never</u> coincide with Passover, so people do not make the connection. That is why it falls as early as late March, or as late as early May! It has nothing at all to do with Jesus and his resurrection. It is meaningless, pagan, and should be rejected in favor of the Feast of Firstfruits. Without Jesus, the holy days of Lev. 23 are just "feast of the Jews" (John 6:4, 7:2); but with him in view, they become "the Feasts of the LORD" (Lev. 23:4, 37, 44), deep, rich, and full of meaning.

[ezekiel_37]

nicely said left....

Christ becaome our Passover, not easter.

[leftin1991]

Thanks, Ezekiel: We serve the Passover Lamb, NOT the Easter Ham! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gifhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[pro610]

Excerpt from New Advent
The connection between the Jewish Passover and the Christian feast of Easter is real and ideal. Real, since Christ died on the first Jewish Easter Day; ideal, like the relation between type and reality, because Christ's death and Resurrection had its figures and types in the Old Law, particularly in the paschal lamb, which was eaten towards evening of the 14th of Nisan. In fact, the Jewish feast was taken over into the Christian Easter celebration; the liturgy (Exsultet) sings of the passing of Israel through the Red Sea, the paschal lamb, the column of fire, etc. Apart, however, from the Jewish feast, the Christians would have celebrated the anniversary of the death and the Resurrection of Christ. But for such a feast it was necessary to know the exact calendar date of Christ's death. To know this day was very simple for the Jews; it was the day after the 14th of the first month, the 15th of Nisan of their calendar. But in other countries of the vast Roman Empire there were other systems of chronology. The Romans from 45 B.C. had used the reformed Julian calendar; there were also the Egyptian and the Syro-Macedonian calendar. The foundation of the Jewish calendar was the lunar year of 354 days, whilst the other systems depended on the solar year. In consequence the first days of the Jewish months and years did not coincide with any fixed days of the Roman solar year. Every fourth year of the Jewish system had an intercalary month. Since this month was inserted, not according to some scientific method or some definite rule, but arbitrarily, by command of the Sanhedrin, a distant Jewish date can never with certainty be transposed into the corresponding Julian or Gregorian date (Ideler, Chronologie, I, 570 sq.). The connection between the Jewish and the Christian Pasch explains the movable character of this feast. Easter has no fixed date, like Christmas, because the 15th of Nisan of the Semitic calendar was shifting from date to date on the Julian calendar. Since Christ, the true Paschal Lamb, had been slain on the very day when the Jews, in celebration of their Passover, immolated the figurative lamb, the Jewish Christians in the Orient followed the Jewish method, and commemorated the death of Christ on the 15th of Nisan and His Resurrection on the 17th of Nisan, no matter on what day of the week they fell. For this observance they claimed the authority of St. John and St. Philip.

More...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05224d.htm

I,ll try and catch up later,I,m very busy today.
Regards

[thekingsent1_again]

Leftin........

We, I have learned, cannot wake some people up no matter how hard we try because..

1) Those that we are trying to wake up may never have been chosen in the first place.
2) Those that we are trying to wake up will refuse the truth because they cannot accept it or will refuse to accept it.
Whichever it is....We should give the message, and if it is not accepted, move on. Because all we will be doing is spinning our wheels on someone who will reject the truth no matter what.
This is at least what I have learned.

[ezekiel_37]

King....

you know what I have learned....

We don't know it all....

We should be able to grow in our learning right up to the point where the Messiah truely returns...

You personally believe that Mary is the Abomination of Desolation.

You believe that the man of Lawlessness is the Pope or a Pope soon to come.

These two points are not biblical.

I know that you believe them wholeheartedly but there are plenty of others who have studied, believe that they are Chosen and do not follow nor understand how you could possibly believe these statements.


Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Sa'-tan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."


When Satan is cast out it will be as it was in the days of Noah. This is what Jesus said in Matthew 24:37: "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." Mankind will be mixing with the angels, and the women even marrying them just as was going on in Noah's day before the flood.

Revelation 12:10 "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power [authority] of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Revelation 12:11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

Revelation 12:12 "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

the one that is kicked out of heaven is the Devil, Satan, Lucifer, The Serpent......

Playing Christ, fooling all but the elect.

[pro610]

Ezekiel_37
quote:
""you know what I have learned....
We don't know it all.... ""

Amen! Brother/Sister
As long as we abide in Christ and love we can continue to learn the Truth.

The kingsent1
Quote;
"""1) Those that we are trying to wake up may never have been chosen in the first place.""

Perhaps someday you can tell us why you think the Holy Spirit would move you to write such acid?

[thekingsent1_again]

Ok........

First off.....Satan is the ruler of this world.
Second....This earth IS NOT God's kingdom.
These are biblical facts and not my guesstimations.
Satan was given control over this kingdom(earth) when man fell into sin.
Therefore....Satan is still running this world, which is quite obvious, as you can step back and see that this place is a death pit.
And....The masses are following the ruler of this world by worshipping him in his many disguise's. His most prevalent of which is the worldly relgions.
These religions are not fighting against the world and the ruler of it. Instead, they are joining in with the world and it's way's and systems, which are not of God, as he is not running the show.
And....Their is not one human being that is holy, righteous, nor good. Yet, the pope proclaims that he is. Yet, priests proclaim that they are. Yet, other proclaiming men of God say that they are.
And...all of them are liars! They all are the yeast of the Saducees and the Pharissees. They are not holy, righteous, nor good, just because they are wearing holy outfits and practising a bunch of mumbo jumbo nonsense.
This is the truth yet you are unwilling to accept it.
I am also neither holy, righteous, nor good.
Same with you and everyone else. And if one claims that they are, they are lieing.
So when I say that the Catholic church is evil; it is. They are not gloyifying God but themselves, when they deserve no praise whatsoever. And the protestants equally so.
The Catholic church murdered millions by the most torcherous ways ever created and you are trying to tell me that this is God's church?
Martin Luther had a grand hate for Jews, which the Son of God was; a Jew!
Then how is it that he claims to be one of his followers?
I am not blind and can see fully. But I know that you cannot see when you claim to see.
Never the less, I am telling the truth. Accept it if you can. Reject it if you must.

[thekingsent1_again]

Pro...........

You have yet to answer me on this question.
How is it that the God of creation's church, murdered millions in his name?
They did not only flat out murder but hurt people in the most torcherous ways ever created, which makes the cross almost child's play.
Will you please explain this to me and it's justification?
I am eagerly waiting to hear it, really!

[pro610]

Thekingsent1
Part#1
None of this has any bearing or responsibility on the Pope or Catholics today -- unless they deny the Inquisition ever happened, understate the extent of its extreme impact and barbarism at the time, OR condone it in any way, shape or form.

The twentieth century reaffirms the fact that the Catholic Church has acted as a restraining influence on humanity. With Christianity out of the way we can kill 6 million under Hitler's socialism, 40 million under Stalin's communism, 45 million under Mao's communism, and 1.5 million a year under America's liberal feminist movement.



let,s look at the inquisitions
The Church was very worried that people who were influenced by these heresies were going to spend eternity in hell. Common people of the middle ages had no intellectual defense with which they could make a reasonable judgment about the Truth. They were almost as vulnerable to the heresies that were sweeping through communities as a person standing in front of a gun is today. Except a lot more than their lives was at stake, their eternal lives were in jeopardy. No one was punished for simply believing a heresy. The crime was teaching it, and leading others astray. The Church felt it was their job to protect the souls of the innocent. In hindsight, the Church understands that it would have done better by not using force. Which is why Pope John Paul II made his apology in 2000.
The main problem about speaking of 'the Inquisition' is that it suggests that religious repression of this sort was a Catholic prerogative. In fact, before the Enlightenment, virtually all religious traditions on occasion acted similarly when they had the power to do so..This indictment of religious savagery and intolerance applies to.all the Protestant nations, even relatively liberal ones such as England and the Netherlands..Equally blameworthy would be Muslims, Hindus, and even Buddhists. After all, in the seventeenth century, when Catholic inquisitions were at their height, the Buddhist/Shinto nation of Japan was engaged in a ferocious attempt to stamp out the deviant faith of Christianity through torture and massacre. In just forty years, these Japanese religious persecutions killed far more victims than the Spanish Inquisition would in all the centuries of its existence."

[pro610]

People thought differently in those days. Human rights, freedom of conscience, religious freedom and pluralism were concepts that grew out of experience and maturity of society and through doctrinal maturity. These concepts did not come into being until the last hundred years or so. It was as a result of all of the wars of the middle ages, that Catholic theologians studied and developed the concept of human rights which was picked up by enlightenment thinkers in the 18 century and has advanced to what we know now. Public order was understood differently than today. Christianity of the time was a political religious system. Theologians of the time thought that society should be ordered in unison with local authorities. The Church and State banded together. Attempts to corrupt Christianity were considered treason to the state. It was like the Moslem countries of today (i.e., Turkey, Indonesia). Christianity broke out of that head space several hundred years after the Middle Ages, but it took a long time. Ironically, today the State is beginning to silence the Church on things like homosexual marriage. Things have turned 180 degrees and Christianity has become more and more an underground society

The main problem about speaking of 'the Inquisition' is that it suggests that religious repression of this sort was a Catholic prerogative. In fact, before the Enlightenment, virtually all religious traditions on occasion acted similarly when they had the power to do so..This indictment of religious savagery and intolerance applies to.all the Protestant nations, even relatively liberal ones such as England and the Netherlands..Equally blameworthy would be Muslims, Hindus, and even Buddhists. After all, in the seventeenth century, when Catholic inquisitions were at their height, the Buddhist/Shinto nation of Japan was engaged in a ferocious attempt to stamp out the deviant faith of Christianity through torture and massacre. In just forty years, these Japanese religious persecutions killed far more victims than the Spanish Inquisition would in all the centuries of its existence.

People thought differently in those days. Human rights, freedom of conscience, religious freedom and pluralism were concepts that grew out of experience and maturity of society and through doctrinal maturity. These concepts did not come into being until the last hundred years or so. It was as a result of all of the wars of the middle ages, that Catholic theologians studied and developed the concept of human rights which was picked up by enlightenment thinkers in the 18 century and has advanced to what we know now. Public order was understood differently than today. Christianity of the time was a political religious system. Theologians of the time thought that society should be ordered in unison with local authorities. The Church and State banded together. Attempts to corrupt Christianity were considered treason to the state. It was like the Moslem countries of today (i.e., Turkey, Indonesia). Christianity broke out of that head space several hundred years after the Middle Ages, but it took a long time. Ironically, today the State is beginning to silence the Church on things like homosexual marriage. Things have turned 180 degrees and Christianity has become more and more an underground society

Apology from Pope John Paul II June 15,2004
"Lord, God of all men and women, in certain periods of history. Christians have at times given in to [forms of] intolerance and have not been faithful to the great commandment of love, sullying in this way the face of the Church, your Spouse. Have mercy on your sinful children and accept our resolve to seek and promote truth in the gentleness of charity, in the firm knowledge that truth can prevail only in virtue of truth itself. We ask this through Christ Our Lord"

[pro610]

OOps,
Sorry about the double post starting with
"People thought differently in those days"

[thekingsent1_again]

Ok...........


Please just ponder on what I say here....

There happened to be a quite handsome man, if I do say so myself, named Bill. He was a fisherman that fished the waters off of the East coast.
It just so happened that at this time his country was at war with China, north Korea, Iraq, and Iran. This left them with absoulutly no ships in Bill's fishing harbor.
An s.o.s. goes out from the coast guard, as they have information that an Iranian fishing vessel is in all actuality a group of Iranian terrorists that have a nuclear device aboard. This vessel is in my vicinity, with no one else around that is able to intercept this boat.
So, to save many, I floor it and smash head on with the terrorist ship, as the warhead explodes.
In time, the wars subside, as America names a holiday after me for saving over 50 million people.
The people of america celebrate this day by giving their children Turtle Eggs, as a giant turtle supposedly drops them off. People are seen wearing turtle costumes on this day.
The people of America further decide to celebrate my birthday on Halloween each year, as the new day is named festivus. The people celebrate by hanging up a large metal pole with decorations on it.
Now, I, in heaven, am given the opportunity to watch what is happening on Earth.
How happy do you think that I am that the people are celebrating with turtles and turtle eggs instead of celebrating me?
How happy do you think that I am that the people are celebrating my birthday on a day that is not my birthday but a pagan holiday with metal poles?

[egk]

Dear King,

Easter eggs and the Easter bunny have NOTHING to do with RC teaching! It is true that in many European and Western countries, customs have developed involving them, but if these customs were to disappear, RC teaching and practice would be unchanged.

Sorry, King, but your fixation on these incidential customs illustrate how little you understand RCC teaching.

Pray for me, and I will pray for you.

EGK

[thekingsent1_again]

Egk....

I understand Satan and God very well.
I know who is worshipping who, and who is working for who.
This knowledge and understanding has not been given to me by man but by God.
I know who the pope is.
I know who the rcc is.
I know who is the leaven of the Pharisees are.
I know who these apperitions of Mary really is.
I know the truth, and Mr. Truth himself, has set me free.
My God is the God of Israel.
Yours is the god of the rcc.
And I am telling you that they are not the same.
This is the truth, as ones disbelief of it will not change the truth, as it is what it is, whether I wish it to be or not.
This is all I have to say on the matter.
I have told you the truth. I have done my job.
I have nothing else to say on this matter.

[granite]

During the Reformation in parts of Europe, and later under Puritan influence in some American colonies, Xmas &amp; the other Roman Catholic holidays were illegal and banned. They saw Romanism with its doctrines and observances just as it is, a nefarious menace to church, state, and liberty of conscience, and understood that it is destitute of the truth.

The bloody history of Roman Catholicism parallels that of Islam: force, iron-fisted rule, and murder of millions. The underlying spirit of both is therefore the same, and comes from beneath. Because of Catholic barbarism and mayhem in England under "Bloody Mary" and others, Britain has had a centuries-old law of no more Roman Catholic kings or queens! America also to this day has had only one Catholic president. Catholicism is a also driving force behind the illegal immigration crisis in our nation.

In observing "Christ's Mass" (&amp; Sunday) American Protestantism has created a mirror image of the beast (Rome - Dan. 7:7). While we are grateful that the U.S. Bill of Rights purports to defend invididual religious freedom, how is it that Congress took it upon themselves to declare Xmas a "national holiday" in 1870? When they did that, the entire first amendment ("separation of church and state") went out the window.

That was Rome's way of creeping back into American life and politics just three years after being shamed when Congress in 1867 had signed into law a ban on diplomatic relations with the Vatican! Congress ratified it because the Vatican had supported the Confederacy and was strongly implicated in Lincoln's assassination. That ban lasted 117 years until 1984, when it was (sadly) repealed under Ronald Reagan. George W. is quite cozy with the Pope of Rome, and he and Laura have been to see him, and bowed down to him and kissed his stinking ring!

Xmas in the church is adding to the worship of God something that God never said to do. It is a mixture of holiness and heathenism, purity with paganism, and is a syncretism or devilish marriage of truth and lies.

[bgmark2]

What if they were all worshipping demons because they were in the period of time the abomination of desolation (http://jesus-survival.com/Abomination-desolation.htm) was set up.