Abounding Grace School For Boys Part I

[Truth Seeker (68.209.172.158)]

The article below maybe of interest to many who have been exposed to abuse.


School leader faces charge
Boys at boarding school complain of treatment
By Laura Giovanelli
JOURNAL REPORTER
Saturday, July 24, 2004


LEXINGTON

The director of a Christian boys boarding school in Arcadia was arrested
Thursday and charged with one misdemeanor count
of child abuse after at least two parents told Davidson County
investigators that their sons were beaten and physically injured
while in the school's care.

Earl Stanley Mitchell, 43, of 7720 N.C. Highway 150 North, the director
of Abounding Grace School for Boys, located at the
same address, was arrested about 6 p.m., according to court documents.
The arrest was the result of a monthlong investigation
by the Davidson County Sheriff's Office and the county's Department of
Social Services.

Mitchell was released from jail yesterday after posting a $5,000 bond. A
condition of his release was that he not contact any of
his school's students, Detective Geanine Pregel said.

Bridgit Wingert, 35, of Goose Creek, S.C., called investigators after
her son complained about his treatment at the school four
days after she picked him up for vacation on June 13. According to the
complaint, her son, Stevin Blevins, 17, told her that a
standard punishment at the school was four licks with a wooden paddle.
Blevins said he was held down on a bed and beaten
with a paddle at least 50 times.

The complaint said that Blevins also told his mother that students were
made to eat all their food - even if they were sick - and
if they vomited, they were forced to eat their vomit. Students were also
not allowed to use the bathroom in the morning for
several hours after they awoke, the complaint said. And if they had
soiled themselves, they were not allowed to clean up.

Another parent, Tara Wilborn of Morristown, Tenn., spoke to
investigators about her son. Wilborn told investigators that her
son didn't deny anything Blevins said, but also told her that he didn't
want to talk about it because he didn't want to testify in
court.

Sheriff David Grice said that the complaint prompted the investigation.
The abuse charge resulted from speaking with another
boy who was interviewed by investigators after they began talking to
students, Grice said. There was also physical evidence
that the boy had been abused, Pregel said. But the investigation is not
over - Wingert drove from South Carolina yesterday and
said she was meeting with investigators so that her son could give a
statement.

Students at the small boarding school usually come from out of state,
Grice said. Children at the school may or may not have
problems at home, Pregel said. Families sent their sons to the school to
get a Christian education, Pregel said, and "they trusted
the Mitchells would do that."

Mitchell and his wife run the school, Pregel said. Another employee, a
teacher, has been investigated but has not been charged,
Pregel said. She would not say if she expected the teacher to be
charged.

Grice said that investigators took eight boys, ages 14 to 17, who were
still at the school yesterday and turned them over to
social-services workers. One boy, who was over 18, was left at the
school because he did not want to leave, Grice said.

A phone call to Catherine Lambeth, the director of the county's
social-services department, was not immediately returned
yesterday.

Mitchell did not return a call for comment.

He is scheduled to be in court Aug. 31.

• Laura Giovanelli can be reached in Lexington at (336) 248-2074 or at
lgiovanelli@wsjournal.com


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Article published Jul 23, 2004
Boys' school director charged with abuse
Investigation isn't over, authorities say

By Rachel Leonard
The Dispatch

The director of a local Christian boarding school under investigation on
allegations of abusing teenage boys was arrested
Thursday on a charge of misdemeanor child abuse.
Stan Mitchell, 43, is accused of beating a 15-year-old student at the
Abounding Grace School for Boys until the boy bled,
causing bruising, said Capt. Tony Roberson with the Davidson County
Sheriff's Office. Roberson declined to disclose details
about the incident but confirmed the charge is connected to earlier
allegations that boys at the Arcadia school were severely
paddled with a wooden paddle as punishment.
"There was some bruising - I've seen the photographs - on certain parts
of his body," he said.
Mitchell was released from custody Thursday under a $5,000 bond. He was
ordered not to engage in any physical or verbal
contact with any boys at the school as a condition of his release.
The Dispatch does not print the names of juvenile victims, but Roberson
said the boy is a current student who came to the
school from Michigan. He was interviewed this week by sheriff's deputies
and officials with the Davidson County Department
of Social Services, which is assisting in the investigation.
The alleged offense occurred sometime between July 12 and 22, according
to court papers.
Abounding Grace, based at Believer's Baptist Church on Highway 150
North, provides Christian education for about a dozen
troubled teenagers. The investigation into possible abuse at the school
began earlier this month after mothers of two students
home from the school on vacation accused Mitchell of abusing their
children.
The allegations included that boys were paddled up to 50 times in a
single incident, that boys were forced to eat their food
quickly and made to eat their vomit if they became sick, and that boys
were not allowed to use the bathroom for hours at a
time.
Neither Mitchell nor his attorney, Joe Floyd Sr. of High Point, could be
reached for comment this morning. In an interview
earlier this month, Mitchell defended the school's use of corporal
punishment and said the punishment was within the bounds of
the law.
The investigation into the school is ongoing, Roberson said this
morning. Detectives plan to interview at least one mother from
out of state today, he said, and social services officials are
contacting more parents of current Abounding Grace students.
"More charges could be possible depending on the outcome of the
investigation," Roberson said.
The line between proper punishment and child abuse can be a fine one at
times, Roberson said. Some indicators that a parent
or guardian may have crossed that line are signs of bruising and
bleeding, like in the case of the 15-year-old, he noted.
"There's not clear-cut criteria ... it's really just you taking it case
by case," he said.
Mitchell is scheduled to appear in Lexington District Court Aug. 31.
Rachel Leonard may be reached at 249-3981, ext. 228, or at
rachel.leonard@the-dispatch.com.

[Anonymous (68.58.187.184)]

Dear Truth seeker,

I am one of the parents of the so called alleged child abuse by Stan Mitchell, Leigh Mitchell, & Rodney Pennell. I can assure you that they did abuse these boys and that hopefully soon everyone will know the truth. I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL JUSTICE PREVAILS. I want the whole world to know the truth so that they can never harm boys ever again.

[Justice Seeker (68.58.187.184)]

Dear Truth Seeker,

I ask anyone who has any information about Stan Mitchell, Leigh Mitchell,or Rodney Pennell from Abounding Grace School for boys in Arcadia, North Carolina originally from Yanceyville, North Carolina to reply to this message.

Justice Seeker

[Truth Seeker (68.209.172.158)]

Dear Anonymous

I know from experience, how painful it can be to have family members abused(not by this group, but another abusive group). I share your pain.

I pray for you and your child, that justice will be done and God will heal the damage done by these people.

[Truth Seeker (68.209.172.158)]

Dear Justice Seeker

I don't have anymore information to share at this time, but will be going to court on August 31st to learn more.

I urge anyone who is able to attend to please do so. The case may be put off, but this is just one of the things you must endure to learn the truth.

I can't tell you how many time I have made a trip of several hours to attend a court case to find the real truth. My family members withheld the truth. It was a very educational experince and I don't regret the time and money I spent to do it.

If anyone has any new information, please post it to help others

[Anonymous (68.213.124.244)]

Dear Truth Seeker,

I will be at court on August 31, 2004. As a matter of fact I will be there each and everytime that I need to be to prove the malicous wrong that these so called Christians have done to my son and others. I will fight for the boys no matter what.

Justice Seeker

[Truth Seeker (68.209.172.158)]

Stan Mitchell will have his first apperance in Davidson Co Court, Court Rm A. I hope that as many as can who want to see justice done, will attend. Court Time is 9 AM

[Anonymous (68.213.124.244)]

Dear Truth seeker,

I was informed not to appear in court on Aug. 31, 2004. The Det. handling the case asked for a continuance? Do you know what happened?

[Anonymous (204.116.164.77)]

I have a friend that was sent to Abounding Grace. I was upset that his mother put him there. I went to visit the school and the boys were under video surveillance in their bedroom. More disturbing to me is the fact that the camera's are pointed toward the shower. What kind of pervert is allowed to be in charge of children and point video camera's toward a shower? I have attended services in this church and heard them preach about beating our children into submission.

[Anonymous (68.58.187.184)]

Brad,

I do not know why and if this is really Brad Hanson that you would make such a thing up. I beleive it to be true statements made by these boys. Any truth to the situation needs to come forward. So if you are really Brad or whoe ever you are...you need to tell the truth.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Dear Anonymous that has a friend that went to Abounding Grace School For Boys,

Please have your friend contact Detective Pregel at the Davidson County Sheriff's office at
336-242-2121 or 1-800-222-8131. I could even direct you better than this, but I do not want the Mitchell's to have any amunition.

As for Brad Hanson, if you are really Brad,
If, the Mitchell's did not abuse you well then that is awesome and I am very happy that you feel that your experince there was good. You are one of the lucky few. I know for a fact that the boys were being abused. Again, there is alot I could say, but at this time I am going to let the authorities do what they need to. Just know regardless the truth will come out and you and everyone who doubts the truth of the terrified boys who have come forward will know the Mitchell's are not the people you think they are.


Again, I urge anyone who has information pertaining to Abounding Grace School for Boys are Stan & Leigh Mitchell to come forward.

Justice Seeker

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

I just want to offer up my support for all boys (and families) whose lives have been changed by this so called "Christian" home. I feel so bad that ANY child had to suffer at that man's hands and demented mind. I too will be in the court room each and every day to show my support to all these brave boys. They deserve to be commended for their courage to stand up to what they know in their heart is wrong in order to stop the insanity. These boys all deserve our prayers, our love and our respect, they have been hurt-both in body and in mind. Hopefully through therapy and justice will these boys will survive the ordeal that they have lived. I pray that they can be healed and that their torment will soon be behind them.

I thank God everyday that the first child had the courage to speak up and tell someone and that his mother listened and saw to it that the correct authorities knew. To the many others that have come forward, you have my full attention and my prayers each and everyday. To all the mothers of these children, do not feel badly, you trusted someone that should have been trustworthy. He fooled a lot of people for a long time. But thankfully he will not be able to that again.

For right now this is as much as I can say: know that I will sit beside you in the courtroom, I will stand firm in my commitment to seek justice with you, I will cry with you, I will offer a shoulder to you when you need it, I will keep you in my prayers ~ for I too have felt the hurt and pain left behind by this man within my family.

As for Brad Hanson, I find your story unbelievable. Knowing what I know (which is a lot more than I can say here) I too doubt your identity.

Mitchell and wife will someday meet their maker and pay the ultimate price for what has been done to so many children. Meantime, the only thing we can do is ensure that they never has the opportunity to hurt another child in their life!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Dear Brad (or whatever your name is today)

Your ONE voice will have its moment in court IF you dare to sit up on the stand. But remember: That you will be under oath to tell the TRUTH, the WHOLE TRUTH, and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH so help you God! Anything less is a punishable crime by law, just as child abuse is.

You seem to want to move off of the public forum and go to an all out private email war with everyone, I don't find that appropriate, at least not for a public forum. If you do not wish to post your voice publicly, how do you expect people to hear your words? Why do you wish to hide your conversations? It think it is because you are secretly ashamed!! I do hope that you have the guts and glory to announce yourself in the courtroom.

Mitchell damaged many children, and you seem to think it is okay. Some questions I would like to ask you...why doesn't he punish his own children the way he did these boys? Why didn't his kids have to eat their own vomit?? Why could they get up in the morning and use the bathroom? When you go to court and listen to the testimony, I hope you think about this: Will you treat YOUR children the way he treated these boys? Will you be charged with child abuse someday because you think this treatment is normal??

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Brad,

As for your comment about standing against a man of God. Stan is not a man of God, he hides behind God so that he can get away with his dirty work. I will stand against him and anyone else who gets in my way of justice. This so called man of God hurt my son and many others. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT JUSTICE PREVAILS. I am sick of hearing about Lester Roloff, that sounds like something that would come out of Stan's mouth. The two have nothing to do with one another. This is about the fact that Stan Mitchell and his wife abused children and it will be proven. As for getting away with standing against Stan. I will!! You see God is watching over these children and he will protect them. I will fight for my son's rights and the other boys that are involved. You need to open your eyes to the possibility that just maybe Stan is not the man of God that you think. Honestly, at this point I do not care if this is really Brad Hanson or not. Quite frankly I am not interested with who you are as opposed to what you represent. I will not waste my time on such foolishness. I have much greater things to do with my time. But, know this I WILL STAND AGAINST STAN MITCHELL AND I WILL PROVE THAT HE ABUSED INNOCENT CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

You know something Brad...

For one thing, why are you not in school NOW or at some of the other times of your postings? For another, if you felt so strongly about this and you are such a great witness for the defense, why isn't Stan paying to bring you here? From what I understand he had several churches supporting his little ministry, surely he could afford the trip for you. I guess you just don't have it in you or you are not who you really are. PERIOD. No guts, no glory.

God does have mercy on me, my family and those boys....The boys are no longer there, the home has been closed for now and once justice is done, it will be closed PERMANENTLY and his little paychecks will cease! I would LOVE to see that man have to pay every red cent back to the churches he had collecting for him so it could be used for something legitimate, good, legal and for the welfare of all mankind. Instead of just lining his pockets.

The entire fact is: RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG. What STAN AND LEIGH MITCHELL HAVE DONE IS WRONG. Another fact for your "young" self to learn: home and church are separated by the state and there will not be a church to hide behind in court.

BTW, this Lester guy has nothing to do with what they did and what is going on here in North Carolina. UNLESS-he taught them at one time in their pitiful lives.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Dear Fact Seeker,

Thank you and AMEN! I would love to know who you are. If, you have any information, please contact Det. Pregel as well. Every comment that you just made is the absolute truth. Without giving away too much information, I can tell you know them well. I know that my family would appreciate any information that you could provide to the courts. All I want is JUSTICE for my son and the other boys. I will not stand back and allow this man or his wife ever to hurt a child again. Keep our sons and families in your prayers, we need to be uplifted. I will never doubt God, but this has damaged me so that it is hard to trust mankind.
As far as I am concerned, I have no more time to waste on this so called Brad Hanson. I will not respond to his comments again. But, thank you for putting him in his place.

God Bless!
Justice Seeker

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Dear Justice Seeker,

I will be sitting in court right next to you. Believe me when I say that you will know me when you meet me. Promise. Yes, I know a lot more than I can say here. Rest assured, we have already made our statements. I am not scared of anyone and I will stand up for what I believe in. I will fight tooth and nail to see to it that justice is served and that he will not raise a hand to another child EVER.

My son will never be the same after living in that home. I know exactly how you feel, I understand the pain, I felt your doubt too and I ask for your prayers for my son in return. You and your family will always have my prayers and if you trust God, then understand that home was not of God.

Please do not let the Mitchell's allow you to doubt mankind. That is completely of the Devil and how he wins. This time, God will prevail.

As for this so called Brad Hanson, you know as well as I know who that is. Is it no wonder why they can't come to court. AND just for the record, Stan cannot have contact with ANY of the boys from the home - past or present - or his bail will be revoked.

Stay strong, stay focused, and most of all KEEP YOUR FAITH!

Blessings,
Fact Seeker

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Well I can see that Stan Mitchell has definitely left his mark on your life. Your last posting is just like something he would have done.

May the peace of the REAL God be with you and light your way.

[b_davis (b_davis)]

12-6-04
All charges were dropped because the ones making accusations didn't appear in court again. Half of the court room was filled with ex-students of the boys home and church members that were to testify for Stan Mitchell.
Case dismissed.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

So am I to here that beating children till they bleed is good upstanding christian behavior? Glad I'm not a southern baptist!
another fact:
Have you ever checked this guys record out? You may be surprised by what you see in this "fine Godly man"! (And I say that very sarcastically) But really pull a criminal record. Don't believe me, but believe the facts, the courtroom is not a new room for this man, neither is the jailhouse.

Folks--the fat lady hasn't sang -- YET!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Do not get to laxed, because I can quarantee you that more charges will be filed. The case was dismissed due to a technicality, not because Stan is innocent. Furthermore, none of the parents nor the victims were notified of this court date, that is why no one was there. Stan Mitchell is no more a christian than the devil is. The accusations are true!!!!!!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

I PUT IT THIS WAY!!!! I AM SICK TO DEATH OF SEEING MY SON TORCHERED BY HIS THOUGHTS AND SO MUCH MORE. ALL OF THIS AT THE HANDS OF A MAN WHO SOME BELEIVE IS A MAN OF GOD. WOULD GOD ABUSE CHILDREN?

WELL I CHALLENGE STAN AND LEIGH MITCHELL TO LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. LETS GO TO COURT, BETTER YET TAKE A POLY GRAPH. IF, THEY ARE SO INNOCENT THAN WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO LOOSE? MARK MY WORDS!!! AS GOD AS MY WITNESS I WILL FIGHT TO PROTECT OTHER CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES FROM EVER ENDURING WHAT I AM WITNESSING MY SON AND FAMILY GO THROUGH. IF I HAVE TO TAKE THIS TO EVERY GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL, NEWS MEDIA, SPEND EVERY DIME I HAVE,WHATEVER IT TAKES I WILL FIGHT FOR THE HELPLESS VICTIMS. SOME PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW THAT STAN MITCHELL IS QUILTY OF THESE TRUE ACCUSATIONS, BUT HIDE BEHIND THE TRUTH. MANY HAVE WITNESSED AND ARE TO AFRAID TO COME FORWARD. MANY HAVE WONDERED IF IT WERE POSSIBLE. DO WE REALLY KNOW PEOPLE LIKE WE THINK WE DO? I WILL PROTECT THE INNOCENT. FOR ALL THOSE THAT DO NOT BELEIVE THAT THE MITCHELL'S ARE QUILTY....THEN ASK YOURSELF THIS. HAVE YOU TRUELY BEEN AROUND THEM 24/7 TO KNOW? IF YOU HAVE NOT THEN HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE ANY BUSINESS COMMENTING ON THE SITUATION? MY SON AND MY FAMILY HAVE BEEN TRAMATIZED BY THIS. I WOULD NOT WANT TO WISH THIS ON MY WORST ENEMY. HAVE YOU HEARD THE VICTIMS (OUR INNOCENT CHILDREN) SIDE OF WHAT HAPPENED? I BELIEVE IF YOU EVER DID YOU WOULD BE MORTIFIED THAT A MAN OF GOD COULD USE SUCH HORRIFFIC ABUSIVE CORPOREAL PUNISHMENT. STAN HAS MAINTAINED THAT HE USES CORPORAL PUNISHMENT. SO PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. WHAT IS YOUR IDEA OF CORPORAL PUNISHMENT VERSUS THE MITCHELL'S? AGAIN, I SAY LETS GO TO COURT, LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE, TAKE A POLY GRAPH TEST. THERE IS SO MUCH I COULD SAY ABOUT MY SON AND WHAT HE IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. I KNOW IN MY HEART OF HEARTS HE AND THE OTHER BOYS ARE TELLING THE TRUTH. HERE IS ONE FOR YOU:

COL 6:9 KNOW YE NOT THAT THE UNRIGHTOUS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD? BE NOT DECEIVED: NEITHER FORNICATORS, NOR IDOLATERS, NOR ADULTERERS, NOR EFFEMINATE, NOR ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND,

To all the victims, parents, family members, friends, and witnesses who know that our sons were abused. Now is the time to put a stop to the madness. We have to be our children's voices. We have to stand firm, strong and fight for what is right. Do not give away details of the boys abuse on this message board and be careful who you talk to. Let's pray!!

In the name of God I ask you to be with these boys and to show the truth to the world. Dear heavenly father I have faith in you, that you brought the abuse to everyone's attention. Because you know that it is wrong and that you are not going to tolerate your children being abused. With that I ask that you touch the hearts of these people on this message board, and anyone who is involved or not and show them the truth. Let the abuse be revealed. Cover our children with your love God and protect them. Be with the families and loved ones. In the name of the father, son and holy ghost I ask you this. Amen!

Justice Seeker}

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

AMEN!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Brad,

You ask God for the wisdom to know right from wrong, along with a "fair trail".

[madd_mother_against_deceitful_demons (madd_mother_against_deceitful_demons)]

Brad,

I am a mother of one of the boys that was in THE MITCHELL'S home, NOT GOD'S HOME. Stan and Leigh, also Rodney, are nothing more than demons TRYING to shine in God's light deceiving the parents who put their trust in them. You are also deceived if you believe that they are innocent.

You keep saying to fact seeker and justice seeker to ask God for a fair trial in their lives. Let me let you in on something you obviously don't understand. There is no trial with God. Either you accept Jesus as your Savior or you reject Him. Simple as that, and His judgement will come down on evil in His own time. However, we are not the ones on trial. Stan and Leigh Mitchell are. I have noticed that you like to get off the subject every chance you get to avoid what is really going on here such as the scripture you gave from Numbers 16.

Look again at Numbers 16:15. Moses said he had not hurt one of them. Well, Stan, Leigh, and Rodney DID hurt these boys, so THAT scripture can not relate to what is going on here. This sure sounds like Stan Mitchell to me. He taught you well. Always running around circles with other matters to take your mind off the real topic.

Jesus loved children in the Bible and He still loves them today and will protect them. Mark 10:13,14 says, "And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them. But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God."

The Lord God Almighty whom my only faith is in will let all things be done according to His will in this lifetime or in the lifetime to come no matter who stands by the Mitchells. If God wants this stopped, not one of you will be able to prevail against Him.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

To those who know that the Mitchell's are guilty,

Do not waste your time arguing with this so-called Brad Hanson, he is not worth it. Besides, we need to focus on our children. Start doing your part in proving that our children are telling the truth. Start writing the proper officials and demanding their involvement. Really!! I cannot believe this discussion board has resorted to childish name-calling. How childish and pathetic!! Focus you strength and energy on fighting for our children, not fighting children on here.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Once again, I'm in total agreement with you Justice Seeker!!

Thank you Madd Mother for posting - Every word you wrote was totally true and will be proven - in time.

This Brad character is just a product of Stan Mitchell's pathetic handy work. Shows what going through his "program" really does for the soul.

When you are a Christian, people know it by the way you talk and act. It is not in the clothes that you wear, it is not in the car that you drive, it isn't even in how many people believe in what you say.

It is the light that shines from within and when you have total faith in God above, it shows. What Brad has shown here is that he does not have one ounce of the holy spirit in him and he has the mind frame that Stan Mitchell put there. That is what brainwashing is all about. Unfortunately by the time Brad figures out how wrong he is about his idol, it will be to late for him.

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Brad,

I think that your admission of the fact that are not a Christian is about the most honest thing you have ever said.

Believe me, we knew, it shows. You are a living breathing example of the "good" that Stan Mitchell has done. Your not Christian after going through this "holy home". Wasn't that the whole point of his "program"? Don't you wonder why you never accepted God as your personal savior?

I sincerely hope that you learn what the true meaning of being a Man of God is all about and that you do not go through the rest of your life thinking Stan Mitchell is a Man of God. Please seek council from a clergy man. Any body - any religion. Ask them about what you learned at the Mitchell home of God and bring some peace into your life. Put this message board behind you and the charges against Mitchell out of your mind and just ask about the things you were taught. Find out if you learned of the truth or if you were taught wrong. You owe it to yourself.

The turmoil of what you feel concerning Mitchell shows in each word you speak (or type here). The mothers of the boys that were hurt in that home knew where your heart really was...It was not with the Lord, and was it was with Stan Mitchell. I do not hold it against you, you are only doing what you were taught to do, defend Stan at all costs. That is why this list is under cults.

Brad, God is a very loving, caring, forgiving God. He loves each of his children, he does not want them to be hurt or abused. I will pray for you and that you find peace and happiness within your life and get some answers to some questions your not even ready to ask.

[theguywhoknows (theguywhoknows)]

Hey Brad,
I remember you, your the one that went crazy when you left. It was so funn. Let me see, what was it that you were saying when you were leaving. O yeah! You were shaking and crying real loud "I didn't mean to kill the chicken, brother Mitchell,...,I didn't mean to kill the chicken."

Sounds to me like your still crazy and you obviuosly don't have a clue about what your talking about.

[angry_user (angry_user)]

I have a nephew who went to the Abounding Grace School for Boys in Arcadia. He too complained to his mother about the abuse he and some other boys were getting from Mitchell. However, he has since passed away back in June 2004. I feel however that if he hadn't died the way he did, his mother(my sister) would have lost him anyway. I'm not saying I'm happy he's gone because he and I were very very close. What I am saying is this. When my nephew decided to leave Abounding Grace, Mr. Mitchell's exact words to my sister were "I think he(my nephew)should stay on a little while longer. I don't feel that he should leave now. If he does, sooner or later, he'll end up dead." How many of you know of a person who is a Christian that would say something like that? Nobody I know of. I know it's unethical for a Christian to say this, but I hope Mitchell rots in hell for all the pain he's caused to those boys, not to mention the families.

(Message edited by angry_user on April 26, 2005)

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Stan Mitchell may THINK his problems are over, but what goes around, comes around.

Not one single boy that went through that home will ever forget, and neither will any of us mothers and families.

I can't wait until justice is served, and I especially like the idea of him bringing in the audience. To be brought down in front of his followers-that is an added plus! They will all know once and for all how deceiving he really is.

(Message edited by fact seeker on April 27, 2005)

[angry_user (angry_user)]

I just found out from my sister, whose son attended this school and the one who died in June 2004. I just found out that Stan Mitchell and his wife have been indicted on the abuse charges

[family_friend (family_friend)]

We have known Stan Mitcherl for several years and have seen close up how he runs the boys home. And he has given up alot to help troubled boys. These boys were in trouble when they came and it seems that the parents must have not known where else to turn to. I have seen how his heart has been tormented over this whole situation. I have seen several forms of discipline like silence time, to writing sentences, and as a last resort even corporal punishment. BUt definately not to the extreme that some have said. AS for talking about the church where he attends we are not preached to that we should "BEAT" our children into submission and Strongly resent that. SOme people only hear what they want to hear. All I could say is that the same with all teenagers is that they dont like being told what to do and being made to do things like chores and homework and other things. It seems to me that the average teenager would say anything to get to go back home to their parents. I am not here to make anyone angry but if you knew personally the kind of people that his family and the Pennells are then you would never say these things nor believe them. However you may be angry but if youre angry with the Mitchells keep your comments directed at that particular situation and dont put down his friends and family. I know for a fact that Stan Mitchell is a Godly man and he lives his life that way. Leigh is a Godly woman and would do anything for you. IF you dont know these people personally then keep your tongues off of them. THat is all I have to say. So believe what you want to believe and for those of you would say the truth will prevail, Yes it will and it will show that you are all wrong. Goodbye.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Brian Davis,

Talk to yourself cause no one cares what you have to say.

So called Family Friend,

Who do you think you are? For one I am sick of the boys being referred to as troubled boys by The Mitchell’s and the members of the church. This just goes to prove how UN-GODLY YOU ALL ARE. All the information you know about the boys come from the Mitchell’s. Who are you to make such a judgment statement when you do not know the boys really are their parents? I'll give you an example: Timmy watched his father shoot himself and you are referring to him as a troubled boy. Lets see how you would be if you watched your father shoot himself. This doesn't mean he is troubled, if anything he needed to be showered with love and compassion, not abuse.

As for my son I sent him there to learn about God and to receive love. I will sue you for slander if you ever talk about my son again. Especially when you DO NOT KNOW. Just for your info. My son was not in trouble when he came to the home.

You say you have known The Mitchell’s for years. How many? Do you really know them? Did you watch everything they did 24/7 behind closed doors?

AS FOR STAN BEING TORMENTED HE SHOULD BE. GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THE MITCHELLS TO GET AWAY WITH THIS.

IF YOU HAVE SEEN CORPORAL PUNISHMENT DONE TO THE BOYS THEN WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN? THERE IS A DIFFERANCE BETWEEN PUNISHMENT AND ABUSE. THE MITCHELLS DID ABUSE MY SON AND THE OTHER BOYS.

AS FOR THE CHURCH PREACHING ON CHILDREN BEING BEAT INTO SUBMISSION. WITNESSES HAVE COME FORWARD TO THIS FACT. FURTHERMORE, CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH WERE WELL AWARE OF THE ABUSE AND DID NOT REPORT IT.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TEENAGERS NOT LIKING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO DO. MY SON WAS HOME FOR DAYS BEFORE HE CONFIDED IN ME. HE WAS SCARED HALF TO DEATH. THE BOYS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD WERE ALREADY HOME WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND NOT COMING BACK BEFORE ANY OF US KNEW ABOUT THE ABUSE.

IF, YOU KNOW THE MITCHELLS SO WELL THEN I AM SO SORRY FOR YOU. AFTER KNOWING ALL I KNOW I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM IN ANY SHAPE FORM OR FASHION. AS FOR BEING ANGRY THAT IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE EMTIONS THAT MY SON, MY FAMILY, AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH. THE MITCHELLS HAVE RUINED MY SON'S LIFE. BELEIVE, I ABSOLUTELY BELEIVE AND THERE IS TOO MUCH EVIDENCE THAT CONFIRMS THE BOYS FACTS. NO ONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE MITCHELLS FRIENDS OR THEIR FAMILY. MY RAGE IS DIRCTED AT THE MITCHELLS AND THE MEMBERS WHO HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE ABUSE AND SAT BACK AND ALLOWED IT TO GO ON. THE MITCHELLS ARE NO MORE GODLY THEN THE DEVIL HIMSELF. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING I WANT ABOUT THE MITCHELLS. THEY DID ABUSE MY SON. I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN>>>> I WILL SPEND EVERY DIME I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT JUSTICE PREVAILS. THE MITCHELLS BETTER BE THANKFUL THAT I AM ALLOWING THE LAW TO SEEK JUSTICE AND THAT I AM NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON TO HARM ANYONE. THE WAY I SEE IT>>> THE MITCHELLS NEED TO FEEL THE ABUSE THAT THEY INFLICTED ONTO THE BOYS. THIS IS NOT A THREAT BUT A FACT. JUST FOR YOUR INFO. AGAIN>>> ALL THE FACTS I KNOW PERTAINING TO THIS PROVES THAT THEY ARE QUILTY. YOU WILL SEE YOURSELF VERY SOON. THE MITCHELLS ONLY USE GOD AND HIDE BEHIND GOD TO DO THEIR DIRTY WORK FOR THEM.

AS FOR MY WORDS FOR YOU>>> AGAIN, DO NOT EVER REFER TO MY SON AS A TROUBLED BOY. I WILL SUE YOU FOR SLANDER. KEEP IN MIND YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE BOYS AND YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT WENT ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. YOU DID NOT LIVE WITH THEM 24/7.

AS FOR THE MITCHELLS, I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE I SAY IN COURT AND PEOPLE HEAR THE APPAULING THINGS THEY DID TO THESE BOYS. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW. THE MITCHELLS HAVE RUINED MY SON FOR LIFE. AND, I WILL SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE MAKING SURE THEY ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO TAKE CARE OF CHILDREN AGAIN. I WILL REPORT IT TO NEWS MEDIA, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, CHURCHES, AND SO ON. I WILL NOT EVER ALLOW A CHILD OR A FAMILY TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE.

JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JUSTICE SEEKER

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justice Seeker: Glad to see you back.

Dear Family Friend,

I have an idea, let's let your children live with that man, oh yeah, that's right now he has to cover what he did - Play mister nice guy. Too bad. You won't get to witness first hand what went on in that house, so therefore you know NOTHING. But if you come to court, I'm sure your misconceptions will be cleared up.

You believe what you know is the truth about Stan Mitchell so answer this: How come we have so many boys saying THE EXACT SAME WORDS? Do we have a conspiracy going on?? NO, WE HAVE THE TRUTH, spoken in small voices-ashamed of what they went through-scared to tell anyone-afraid he will come and get them and hurt them again.

My son has spoken the truth about what happened during his stay and it has matched what the other boys around the country are saying. Once the truth is out, you can do with it what you want. Believe it, or leave it, it doesn't matter to me if you want to be that naive. Facts are Facts, and what you have offered here is YOUR opinion.

As for what the church speaks and beleives, you better watch it...Believers Baptist has a website with recorded sermons that you can watch. It is a public place...whoever wants to go there can. They can see for themselves what that church is all about. As for me, I've been in church many many years, and NEVER heard any of the "gospel" that He preached. I wanted to hurl!!!!!!

If you beleive what he did is right then you are no better than he. You did not live in that home and you do not know what happened behind closed doors. As for his wife, Let me ask you this....Have you ever been cussed out by a Christian Lady?? Nope, me neither, except for the day that Leigh Mitchell did it. Christian lady, yeah right!!!!! Bet you would be surprised to hear what she has to say about people behind their backs.



(Message edited by fact seeker on May 23, 2005)

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Dear Fact Seeker,

Thank you! I was upset when I put my last post up. Again we have to keep in mind not to give the Mitchell's too much ammunition. I am asking for us too keep details about the case closed to them until court. I know! I know! I probably said more than I should at this time. We know our boys are telling the truth and it is a matter of time that everyone will know. By the way I have always been here. I look at the post frequently. Just been waiting on Justice.

Thanks,
Justice Seeker

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justice Seeker your right, I've edited my post, I hope this one is not to harsh, I just can't believe that their are people out there that are still so blind.

Thanks!!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Fact Seeker,

I agree! They only believe what they have been brian washed to believe. This is what this sight is dedicated to brain washing, cults, and mind control. I will have fault with those; if they choose to still believe once they have heard the boys words. I do not know who you are. So when we do go to court please let me know you are fact seeker.

Thanks!

[family_friend (family_friend)]

dear fact seeker & truth seeker


you know what all you wont to do is argue. im not looking to argue all im saying is my opinion, and you have your opinion.all youve heard is second hand as well. by the way how did you hear about abounding grace? i guess the people that recomended the home are brain washed to, all yea and why did you need a referal because you were at you wits end with your child you didnt know were else to turn. arnt teenagers about like anybody else they are going to tell a story to make it sound in there favor. i did it when i was a teenager, oh yea and id probly still do it today if i got backed in a corner and you would to. how come all of the sudden these boys are altor boys and everything that comes out of there mouth is the gospel. oh yea it makes a good news story and your right it has stopped a man trying to help other boys. your just hendering the work of christ. well i probly said to much but i just feel that weve all been accused of things that were not true at some point in our life bassed on what some one said and unfortunetely in todays society perception is reality.

but you know no mater whhat you do in this life wether it be right or rong even the worst person in this life can still find grace in the eyes of the lord. and im not talkin about stan mitchell in this instance.

take care and realyy do some soul searchin

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Dear Family friend,

How about some spell check?? Your ignorance is showing!!

I'm not arguing with anyone. Facts are facts, and all you have said is your soul OPINION.

AND for your information Stan Mitchell is the one that labeled these kids "bad and troubled". I didn't need a reference into the house, he opened the door all on his own, he loved getting paid to treat these boys badly. It empowered him, made him feel like God to dress these kids up and parade them around begging for money to support them.

Stick around and I'm sure you will learn a thing or two concerning "your friend" and after you learn the truth we will see if you still feel as though innocent children should be placed in his home. I nominate YOUR kids.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

No one is looking to argue with you either. Let me tell you something you do not have the right to call my son troubled and label him. I will get in your face with that especially when you do not know my son personally or the circumstances in which he came to Abounding Grace.

Second hand, I have heard first hand repeatedly. I believe my son. The people that recommended my son only met the Mitchell's once. So how would they really know him? Furthermore, with him betraying himself as man of God>> How would you really know? I had other options and choose the home based on reasons other than what you have stated.

As for teenagers making up stories that is not the case here. As for you making up stories again that shows the person you really are.

No one has stated that our boys are alter boys, but in this horrific situation IT IS THE GOSPEL TRUTH.

I would never wish this on anyone to just make a good news story.

STOP A MAN FROM HELPING BOYS. HOW ABOUT STOPPING AN ABUSER FROM ABUSING CHILDREN EVER AGAIN. AND, I AM ONLY HENDERING AN ABUSER AND CHRIST BEING USED.

AS FOR BEING ACCUSED>>>TELL ME THIS>>>WHY HAS A GRAND JURY INDICTED THE MITCHELLS ON THREE FELONY COUNTS OF CHILD ABUSE AND WHY HAVE THEY BEEN ARRESTED? JUST MAYBE THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE FACTS. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT PERCEPTION BEING REALITY. YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET A DOSE OF REALITY AND YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS YOU THINK YOU HAVE.

YOU MAY THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WRONG>> I AM ONLY TRYING TO PROTECT OTHER CHILDREN OR FAMILIES FROM EVER ENDURING ANY ABUSE FROM THE MITCHELL'S.

AS FOR FINDING GRACE WITH GOD >> IT IS HIS GRACE THAT DRIVES ME.

AS FOR SOUL SEARCHING >> I KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT FOR THIS TO BE TRUE. IN MY HEART OF HEARTS!

AGAIN, DO NOT TALK ABOUT MY SON WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW HIM.



Fact Seeker,

I second that nomination.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

For Everyone's info.

Husband, Wife Charged With Child Abuse At Boarding School

POSTED: 4:05 pm EDT May 24, 2005
UPDATED: 4:52 pm EDT May 24, 2005

The founder of a local Christian boys' boarding school has been indicted on child abuse charges, along with his wife.

Several indictments were handed down Tuesday charging Stanley and Lucinda Mitchell with child abuse.

The child abuse investigation started more than a year ago after complaints from parents.

Investigators say the abuse occurred while the victims attended the Abounding Grace School for Boys, based at the Believer’s Baptist Church in Arcadia.

A grand jury found that Lucinda and Stanley Mitchell assaulted several students while they were providing care and supervision.

Make sure to stay with WXII 12 News for more on this story.
Copyright 2005 by WXII12.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Thank you for posting updated information regarding this case! Awesome news!!!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

For everyone's ifo,

May 24. 2005 6:45PM

New charges filed in boys’ school abuse case


From staff reports

Allegations of physical abuse at a Christian boarding school in Arcadia are back in court following the arrests last week of the school’s former director and his wife on charges of felony child abuse.

Stanley Earl Mitchell, 43, of North Highway 150, faces two counts of felony child abuse involving two teenage boys, both students at the school. Lucinda Mitchell, 36, was charged with felony child abuse involving one student.

According to the Davidson County Sheriff’s Office, the Mitchells turned themselves in to authorities on May 18. They were released from custody the same day after posting bonds of $5,000 each.

Stan Mitchell is the founder of Abounding Grace School for Boys, which closed after he was charged in July 2004 with one count of misdemeanor child abuse. Prosecutors dismissed that charge in December due to what District Attorney Garry Frank then called a miscommunication between prosecutors and defense attorneys over a court date.

Abounding Grace was affiliated with Believer’s Baptist Church and located on church property. According to the Mitchells, the boarding school provided Christian-based education and strict discipline, including corporal punishment, for about a dozen troubled teen boys.

According to the latest criminal charges, the Mitchells beat one teenage boy so severely as to cause serious injury to the buttocks and bruising. They are also accused of forcing the boy to overeat and vomit, leading to gastrointestinal problems, according to the sheriff’s office. Stan Mitchell is also accused of seriously injuring another boy by beating him until open sores formed, resulting in permanent scars.

Reached Tuesday afternoon, Stan Mitchell maintained he is innocent of any wrongdoing.




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[family_friend (family_friend)]

wow Justice seeker the news referred to the boys in the case as troubled. Does this mean that you pick and choose who you think is slanderous?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

AS STATED BEFORE STAN MITCHELL IS WHO LABELED THESE KIDS THIS IS HOW HE MADE ALLOWANCES FOR HIS ACTIONS, PLACE THE BLAME ON AN INNOCENT CHILD. YEAH, IT WAS THEIR FAULT HE HAT TO HIT THEM...WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT MAN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ADULT, SUPPOSED TO BE A CHRISTIAN AND HE SHOULD KNOW THAT WHEN A CHILD BLEEDS HE HAS CROSSED THE LINES AND IT IS WRONG. BUT THEN I'M TALKING ABOUT A NORMAL PERSON, NOT A DEMON, THEY LIVE BY THEIR OWN SET OF LAWS.

YOU NEED TO READ WHAT THE ARTICLE ABOVE SAYS. THERE IS PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN SCARS FROM A SIMPLE PADDLING? ALSO, HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU STRIKE A CHILD AND CONSIDER IT A SIMPLE ACT OF CORPORAL PUNISHMENT? I'M VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION...PLEASE BE SURE TO POST YOUR ANSWER. MAYBE THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION MORE, PERHAPS YOU DO THE SAME TO YOUR OWN CHILDREN.

I notice that you will not answer to the question of placing your kids in that man's hands. Scared to state the truth aren't you? I wouldn't believe you anyway. If you says yes, you are a fool!

THIS MAN IS AN ABUSER AND YOU ARE AN ENABLER, YOU ARE AS GUILTY AS HE IS!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

The news is only reporting what Stan has said to them.

"According to the Mitchells, the boarding school provided Christian-based education and strict discipline, including corporal punishment, for about a dozen troubled teen boys".

It is Stan calling the boys troubled, not the media. They only quote him!

FUTHERMORE, I AM NOT ARGUING WITH YOU ANYMORE. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY TO YOU. IF, YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH THEN BE AT COURT. I AM SURE YOUR EYES WILL BE OPENED.

THE GRAND JURY MUST HAVE SOME PRETTY SERIOUS EVIDENCE TO INDICT THE MITCHELL'S AND FOR ARRESTS TO BE MADE. USE YOUR BRAIN!

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

I have read the above and I have a few questions, your sons if not troubled then why send them there? If you did this to teach them the bible and about the Lord, dosent the bible tell us MOTHERS are to be keepers of the home. We are to teach our children. I dont know the Mr.Mitchell and I was not there I am sure the truth will be told. And you seem to have plenty of time and I have seen that you know some of the Bible so you should have been teaching your son at home! This man may have done this but it is your fault. You sent you son the child you brought into this world. Oh yeah you mentioned the word sue alot are you in need of money??????????????? There baptist they dont have much!

[snappy (snappy)]

If you "mothers" would be just that and raise your kids the way you suppose to there wouldn't even be a need for boy's homes. You brought them into the world and it's your job to raise them, not some stranger. You come on here and do all this whining and carrying on when in fact it's no one's fault but your own. If you can't raise them don't have them.

[ontheroad (ontheroad)]

To "Justwantthetruth" (do you?) and "Snappy" -

It is not always true that it is a parent's fault that a child needs extra help. I know several Godly parents whose children went through difficult phases. Sometimes there are painful or tough circumstances, like tragedy in a child's life such as a death in the family or difficult illness or abuse (other than parental). This can lead to a child going through a difficult phase of confusion or rebellion or acting out. Those types of circumstances are not parents' faults at all.

But even if a parent makes errors that leads to a child's going through a difficult phase, once recognize things have then gotten beyond their ability to handle, getting outside help is the responsible thing to do.

Agencies or individuals who offer extra help for kids in difficult times have a responsiblity before the Lord to act in an honorable, Godly way. Period. Defending this man just because he claims to be a man of God is foolish and immature. False prophets also claimed to be men of God. But their actions showed otherwise. Boy, am I sick of pastors being defended just because of who they claim to be. Sin is sin, no matter who does it.

It is most arrogant and presumptuous that both of you would assume that these mothers failed at raising their sons. You are acting very ungodly.

And by the way, where is the responsibilty of the *fathers* in your condemning posts? All you mention is a mothers' responsibility.

[snappy (snappy)]

ontheroad, you come on here and tell us that we're acting ungodly? Have you read the post that are way before us. You folks have already tried the Mitchells and are ready to carry out the punishment before ALL the facts are presented. I'm not here to defend ANYONE. I was not there so I do not know what happened. If these children are going through a hard time in their life I understand that, but no where in God's word does it say that when the going gets rough to pass them off to someone else. What are the circumstances behind these boys being there? Where are the boy's fathers at? All the finger pointing is being done at the Mitchells and I don't see anyone taking any responsiblity. Too many times today so-called parents don't want the kids to start with, it interferes with their partying too much. Don't come on here and put all the blame on the Mitchells, I don't buy it.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

If Snappy and justwantthetruth's comments are true, then let's ask the question of why the home was even there to begin with.

Why did Stan Mitchell come up with the idea of opening a home for boys when all the boys should have been at home being taken care of by there parents?

Let's put yourself into the situation:

If your child came home one day from school with injuries, would you say oh, well you were in a Godly place so it is okay that you were beaten today? OR would you be a responsible parent and take action to see to it that the school never hurt anyone else ever again? I would hope you would have enough honor in your soul to do the ladder! But as I see it today, you would close your eyes to your child's pain. How sad! And irresponsible of you to block out the harm that they inflicted on these children.

UNLESS YOU HAVE STOOD IN MY SHOES, LOOKED AT MY SON, HEARD HIS WORDS OF WHAT HE WENT THROUGH, DO NOT TELL ME THAT I AM WRONG TO WANT THIS SCHOOL CLOSED AND FOR JUSTICE TO BE DONE TO THE MITCHELL'S.

If you don't know the situation or care to look at all the facts, DON'T JUDGE!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

And btw I challenge you Ms. Snappy and anyone else that thinks I failed my job on raising my child to meet me face to face and tell me I'm not a good parent.

You do not know anything about me, my life, or my child...So before you pass judgement on me over my decision to place my child in that home, you better get your facts straight!

(Message edited by fact seeker on May 25, 2005)

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

Snappy said they same thing I would have said and asked. Where are the Fathers? I have even heard of preachers kids being sent to a home. If you ask them they will honestly tell you somewhwere they failed the child and now it has come to this. But when you get on here and say look what they did and how they messed up my childs life. They dont pass there faults to someone else. Hello what did you do or not do to have you child in this place. And for the one that seen his dad shot himself, I will pray for you but were both parents in church and working as hard as they could to keep the devil and the world from there family? It sounds kinda harsh but the truth is we and I say we as parents need to stay strong in the bible. Remember God raised a perfect Son! and the "condemning post" remark. have you read the post by this person?

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

never said he did it or not i dont know. Did you sign papers when he went did you read the rule book or guildlines did it say they gave punishment?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

First of all, I once was a teenager and I know never to believe much of what they say. From what I hear the boy with marks put them on himself just so he would have his own evidence. The fact is those boys were very well taken care of and I saw that with my own eyes. THey did not like the rules that were given to them. I wouldnt like it if I was raising hell at home and then had to go to a CHristian home. You my friends are giving fuel to the fire. Why not take lie detector tests to prove what the truth is? Why ruin a mans life and reputation by what a mere 14 or 15 year old says? What your facts are is what your sons are telling you? If anyone has ground for slander suing it should be THe Mitchells. DId you know that until a case is settled, that you are supposed to say "Alleged Abuse" if not its slander. If youve forgotten the constitution it says "innocent until PROVEN GUILTY". Why do you keep saying the word sue? Is it about the money or the alleged abuse? And for you dont come on here telling anyone what they can or cannot say on hear this is a public website and you my dear cannot have any control over what anyone says on here. I see you have plenty of control over what your son is saying. And you come on here telling everyone how much of a devil this person and that person is and how ungodly everyone else is, but whens the last time you read your Bible or took time out of your pathetic life and tried to help anyone. If anything you need to quit slandering Believers Baptist CHurch, you will never find a better church anywhere with loving people who by the way again are not taught to Beat their children into subjection. WHo are you to judge an entire congregation based on your tired little peabrain. you know what now youve got me mad and a whole lot of other people keeping up with this. It seems as though you just want to argue and call names and if that what you want then on here thats what youll get. How about you quit calling names and act like an adult or the "Alleged Christian" you are. You have no place to say some of the things or judge who you have judged. It seems to me that you didnt do any research if any on who you sent your child to, and yeah your right When you said I wouldnt send my child to someone I dont know, thats your wrongdoing, do you fell guilty? And Yeah I tried to look up Stan Mitchells record and you know what i found . I read that "his sins will i remember no more because his name is written in the Lambs book of life. I guarantee you that Stan Mitchell has a lot more people behind him than you do. And yeah the grand jury indicts on what the prosecutor tells but they have'nt even heard from the defense attorneys, or what the Mitchells have to say. SO lady this is just the beginning and yes Ill see you in court. You Ma'am have a great day!!!!

[snappy (snappy)]

fact_seeker, you are a very bitter and angry person. You need to get your facts straight also. No where on here did I past judgement on you, maybe you should go back and read before opening your fat mouth. I'm with family friend above, are we just suppose to take your son's word for truth just because he said it? Why are you so bent on ruining someone's life? Why are you so bitter? I'll meet you face to face anywhere you want too but you'll not lay one hand on me, understand. And quit your idle threats with suing someone about slander. If you're this hotheaded in person it sounds like your son needs to be somewhere for his own safety.

[snappy (snappy)]

fact_seeker, I stand corrected, it is not you making idle threats to sue but justice_seeker. I do apologize for the mix up. But while I'm on here again justice_seeker says in a post above that she sent her son to the home to learn about God and recieve love. What? where do you get that from? The bible plainly states it's YOUR responiblity to tell them about the things of the Lord and was he not recieving love at home? This makes no sense.

[truth_revealer (truth_revealer)]

All I have to say is that I was there. I am a boy that was in the home. There for almost two years, I saw what you church members and "family friends" never saw. Think about you werent there for almost two years 24/7 people. You can say what you want to these parents but you cant say a thing to me. I KNOW THE TRUTH! And you Brad Hanson, dont make me laugh. I know all about you, if your the best witness Stan has then he is in trouble. He will go down, he is not a man of God. He is nothing but a coward who hides behind the name christian. Any of you can call me a liar, it doesnt matter. In the end the truth comes out, and you blind fools who want to say he is good and cared will finally get put in your place. No I dont believe this is too harsh. This is being nice and polite compared to what Id like to say. Also yes we gave our parents a hard time, yes they were at their wits end but that gives Stan no right to take advantage of the situations in the families that come to him. They come to him hurt and scared and he assures them he will help. But while friends and church members are home in their comfort the truth is found. Our parents are tormented day and night for what happened to us but it is not their fault. They are good parents who wanted to help us. My mother is a MOTHER, but she was lied to just like all the family friends and church members. The difference between you and these parents their kids went through it, they've seen their childs tears and pain. I agree let your kids stay with him, and let them come home afraid of a "MAN OF GOD", in tears. Would you then say praise God Stan is so Holy. I hope not. You think the parents are bitter and angry I dealt with, I lived in it. Now I read you people call us liars and tell us to search our souls, search your souls and shut up. You can call me disrespectful, a liar anything you please, but its still a fact I was there. I cant have respect for the blind people who follow this "man of God". Brad you call fact seeker an Idiot, but the truth seems to be that you are an idiot. This will not be edited the way I have said it stands, I will not be respectful to scum who supports scum.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Truth revealer are you sure youre not a parent trying to act like a boy that was in the home, it sure seems as though you are from what you wrote?
I dont believe you are who you say you are for one second and yes i can see your next response now " I am who I say I am and I really dont care what you think" waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa waa Thats all I hear from you people

[truth_revealer (truth_revealer)]

The truth is you probably know me. Family friend, hhhmmmm, Ill tell you this when I get on the stand at the trial I will make myself known. How is miss Rose? It really doesnt matter if you think Im one of the parents just shows your stupidity even more than its been shown. Once Stan and Leigh are found guilty ,and they will be, all of you people will feel very stupid.

[truth_revealer (truth_revealer)]

Also you are the people standing with the liars so why call me dishonest when you have to be dishonest yourself for associating with them.

[truth_revealer (truth_revealer)]

id like to set something straight, you people keep puuting that this is for money. When everytime we've been asked that question we said no we dont want money. Over and over, now even Stan is saying it, that proves he is a liar.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

WHo I associate with is for one none of your business and doesnt make me dishonest. And wow so you mean to tell me that in the hundreds of years of our constitutional history that no one has ever been found guilty when they werent goulty. Youve really given me a newfound sense of hope in our legal system. Thanks so much. NOT!!!!!!!!!! Ill be there. Oh yeah I really feel your sense of concern but I regretfully tell you that Mrs. Rose passed away. WHy are you going to tell me that she did something to you to? Have some respect or it seems as though you dont know what that is.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

How do you know what Stan is saying? When is the last time you talked to him? Or maybe youre and
maybe youre just..... oh nevermind I shouldnt say that.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

What are you such a coward that youre afraid to say who you are why dont you try me to see if I know who you are let me take a wild guess????????

[family_friend (family_friend)]

JUSTICE SEEKER QUIT TRYING TO ACT LIKE SOMEONE YOUR NOT LOOK AT WERE YOUR MESSAGE WAS POSTED FROM. MY WIFE WAS RIGHT THIS IS A PARENT TRYING TO ACT LIKE THERE SON.

[mouse (mouse)]

I want to stress to the families of the involved young men to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE stay in CONSTANT CONTACT with the DA's office and DO NOT let the DA's office screw this case up again! Attorneys [and DA's] have many cases going on at one time, and it is VERY easy for them to lose contact with their most important witnesses . . . and forget to inform them of important court dates when the witnesses must appear. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN IN THIS CASE AGAIN. Families, PLEASE call Mr. Frank's [the DA's] office AT LEAST WEEKLY, to find out what is going on and to keep yourselves in front of the DA so he will be sure and notify you of when you must appear, and therefore NOT have to dismiss this case again. The DA may get irritated with you for calling so frequently, and that is PERFECTLY OKAY -- let him get irritated; it appears he may need to be reminded to do his job, and that is what your calls will be doing -- reminding him to do his job. Then he will MAKE SURE this case is heard as soon as possible so you will quit calling him!

I know the Mitchell's personally; I am Stan's former sister -- I say "former" because I parted ways with him after Mom died in 2002. I have been held captive in Stan's "House Of God" against my will by Stan, and I know how forceful he can be when he's angry. I have been the victim of both Stan's and Leigh's hateful, unGodly words -- on the courthouse steps, nonetheless. I grew up with Stan and know his criminal background; I watched him go from being a teenage prisoner to being a man of God. I witnessed the compassion he had for helping "troubled boys," as he was a "troubled boy" himself. I have been in his Boys Home on many occasions -- mainly holidays -- and I recall his major effort to form a Boys "School" versus a Boys Home because the laws governing the two with vastly different laws, and Stan did not want to be governed under the laws of a Home. I recall his pride in making his first paddle to discipline the boys with. I recall his pride in building the dwelling for the Home, and I recall his giving that dwelling up to move to Believer's Baptist Church. I KNOW that HE truly BELIEVES [or believed] he is/was following God's will. I am not here to say that he is guilty or not guilty -- let us allow the Court to make this determination, please.

I know what I believe in my heart, but I want to hear the Court's opinion. The laws are complex and only a judge and/or jury can determine the outcome of this case. Let us PLEASE bring this case to trial this time so we can have the court's decision. FAMILIES, PLEASE STAY IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE DA'S OFFICE so this case can go to trial this time and we can receive the Court's decision.

Families, in the meantime, I trust that you are assisting your son's to grow from this experience and move on with their lives. This is NOT something that is healthy for them to focus on. Please help them to find a positive focus, outside of this case, so they are not further stunted in growth here. My concerns are with you, as I am sure this is a VERY difficult experience for your entire family. Please work to make something positive out of this for your sons, no matter what the Court decides. Continue to help them to grow in God's Word and foster love and compassion within them. They need massive amounts of love and understanding to overcome this terrible experience. But we have no guarantee that justice will be served in the way in which we desire it, and thus we need to prepare to move past this -- no matter the court outcome.

[truth_revealer (truth_revealer)]

You ignorant people, Im not a parent, I asked about miss Rose to find out who you were, no she never did anything to me. Ask Wayne the truth, if you cant believe him then there is no point trying to show you the truth. I was with Ms. Rose the entire day working in the freeser right before she had her stroke. And no it was not Joel

(Message edited by truth revealer on May 25, 2005)

[family_friend (family_friend)]

what im saying is that truth seeker and truth revealer are using the same computer.

[truth_revealer (truth_revealer)]

Yes we are then, that doesnt mean Im a parent posing as a son. It just means that truth seeker is my parent. Im not a liar, everything I have said about the Mitchell's is true. I have only told the police things that actually happened, I have not exaggerated or lied. Stan fooled my parents just as he has fooled you. I never meant to hurt the church or its members. My only goal is to ensure that Stan and Leigh dont do this anymore.

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

you got a whoopin...for running that mouth.....you have told people to shut up today that and the things you have said prove you never got one at home.

[mouse (mouse)]

If the families were after money, they would have filed a CIVIL ACTION -- not support CRIMINAL CHARGES, as they are doing. A criminal conviction of child abuse -- as the charges stand -- will bring NO MONEY to the victims; only a prison term or other sentence to the Mitchells. Victims have to file a CIVIL ACTION to recover monetarily, unless the Judge in the criminal case CHOOSES to award monetary compensation for the criminal charges, which is not typical. I do not believe the victim families are seeking money -- only justice, as they see it.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

SNAPPY,

Hitting people, child or adult is not my way!! That seems to be a common thread between members of Stan's fold. Why did you think I would hit you? Did I say I would? I only told you: once you hear the truth I dare you to to question my decisions concerning my child. AND YOU GOT THAT I WANT TO HIT YOU OUT OF THAT????????????

WHO IS THE ONE THAT SAID I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT MONEY??? JUST WHERE DO YOU GET THAT?? OH YEAH FROM STAN MITCHELL THE LIAR HIMSELF. GOTCHA!

I'M NOT HERE FOR THE MONEY!!!!! I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, I AM NOT HERE BECAUSE OF MONEY. DID YOU GET THAT?

I'M HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THESE BOYS ARE NOT LYING AND I WANT TO BE SURE NO OTHER CHILD EVER SUFFERS FROM THAT MAN'S HANDS AGAIN. PERIOD.

I would think as a christian you would want the same. period. Isn't what the heck all this is about, the welfare of the boys? or do you only want them so that your church can make some money off the ministry. hey, your the one that brought up money.

Maybe I am bitter, but I'd rather be bitter and protect innocent children than to be clueless and you have no clue! What does the bible say about fools?? Oh, I forgot your too busy to care about that.

I'll be sure to meet you and everyone else in the court room. I have nothing to hide and I'm sure I do a heck of a lot more for society that you ever dreamed of.

Now sit back with your rose colored glasses if you want, listen with a closed ear if you want, be foolish, it will never hurt me, ONLY YOURSELVES AS YOU HAVE A JUDGEMENT DAY ALSO.

I THINK THE ONLY THING WE ALL AGREE ON IS FACTS ARE FACTS, and when the truth comes out, we will see who has their facts in order and who DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE.

Now if you all will excuse me, I have much more important things to do!

[family_friend (family_friend)]

First of all to mouse, If you would have went back and read all of the posts, you would have seen that Justice Seeker uses the term I oughta sue you for this and for that and I think we are all well aware of how the criminal system works as well as the legal. However Justice seeker you seem to think that yours is the only right opinion and not everyone thinks as you do. but it seems as if youre the only one who casts judgement on those you dont know. And as for making money off the ministry Im pretty sure that the church doesnt!!!!! And youre the one making snappy statement's like Just tell me and well meet and you can say it in my face. As they say in Texas "Them sounds like fightin' words to me" I saw how those boys were all the time, I saw first hand and heard first hand those boys standing in Believers Baptist Church praising God for the opportunity to be in the home and how the were headed down the wrong road and Ive heard them say How much they loved Bro. Stan and Ive saw his family cutting up with the boys and sacrificing for those boys. I dont know many people who would give up the comfortability of a normal life to help TROUBLED boys. And thanks to the likes of people like you thats over. You are in no way changing the way I think and you can call it brainwashing or whatever but I call it being loyal and I believe with all my heart that those boys probably lied in the beginning but now they cant turn back and tell the truth, what would that bring, nothing but charges against you and them. You are wrong. Have you ever read in the BIBLE about those who put out their hands against the man of God and it brought judgement against them, so you dear are the only one that I feel sorry for. If I even thought for one second that he could be guilty of these things then I wouldnt even be here but I believe he is innocent just as much as you think hes guilty.
Why did you even say "What does the Bible say about fools? Oh I forgot youre too busy to care about that." Im sorry but much of what you say is in repition and makes no sense. And tell me this do you know me well enough to tell me what I dream about doing for society? Ill tell you what I dream of and thats putting stubborn people like you in their place because you ma'am are the one who doesnt know what shes talking about. Now just go take a cold shower so you can cool off all that steam coming out of your ears.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Dear Mouse,

Thank you for your post AND your support. I applaud you for standing up and speaking out. I am sure this is very hard for you and the rest of your family.

To want an answer whether it be quilty or not, to allow the court to make a decision, and to urge us not to allow this case to be dropped shows the family values that Stan Mitchell was raised with. Your firsthand omission of anger and force you recieved from him and his wife, tells where their values are today.

Yes, I know that what you have said about him and his past is true, as I DID take the time to get to know who he is/was. I don't make decisions regarding my childs welfare on recommendations from strangers alone.

I truly gave Stan the benefit of the doubt regarding his past when I allowed my child to decide he wanted to live there.


Now I regret it with every fiber of my being!

All I want is to ensure this does not happen to another child. His own children included as the rage that man has inside needs a new outlet now.

Thank you again, as I know this was not easy for you.

[snappy (snappy)]

Well, this is all I've got to say about the whole thing. IF Stan is in the wrong then the truth will indeed come out. I am not associated with Believers Baptist but know Stan from his previous church. I was around him quite a bit when the boys home started, and spent alot of time with him and his family. I never ONE time saw anything that made me wonder about his motives. I truly believe he wanted to help troubled young boys. If he has strayed then he'll have to answer for it. But let's look at the whole picture a minute. You parents couldn't or wouldn't deal with your child, so you send them to the boys home, which tells most people you didn't have a little angel at home to start with. I know first hand the conditions that some of the boys from years ago came from, alcoholic mothers and drug using dads. Now I'm not saying anyone on here is in the shape, I have no idea, so stick a cork in it if you're planning on coming back saying I accused someone on here of that. What I am saying is that some of the boys didn't like being told what to do and having rules to follow, simply because dead beat parents never made them have any responsiblity to start with. It's very easy for a child who is already rebellious to come up with lies to get of the situation they're in, plain and simple. Again, it may sound like I'm defending Stan but all the facts have not been presented, and I have not been around or seen Stan in probably 4-5 years. I'm not accusing anyone on here of anything either, but our current law says innocent until PROVEN guilty.

[mouse (mouse)]

Fact Seeker, please continue with your commitment to see this case to its conclusion. The charges are nothing without the young mens' continued efforts to see this to a conclusion. These young men must be committed to be present for each and EVERY court hearing -- no matter what the DA tells you. If the Judge sees you present time and time again, he will see that you are committed to stand up to these charges and see to their resolution, making SURE this case is not dismissed again because of a lack of communication between you and the system.

My 12 years working within the legal profession taught me not to trust the system; we must speak up for ourselves, and DEMAND that our rights are protected. If none of the young victims appear EACH TIME the case comes before the Court [NO MATTER WHETHER THE DA TELLS YOU TO BE THERE, OR NOT!], it sends a message to the Court/Judge that you are not serious about the charges and you are not willing to exert the effort to support them, and defend your cause. Make SURE the Judge knows you are present in court, as well as the efforts you went to in order to be present [distance traveled, work/family commitments you put aside to be there, how many times you make the drive only for the case to be continued, etc.] If you do not get an opportunity to speak in court [with continuances, etc.], PLEASE write the Clerk of Court [who will make sure the Judge gets the message] to let her know of your efforts, concerns AND commitments to continue to be present each and every time the case is calendared. In fact, you can call the Clerk Of Court for Davidson County and request court dates directly from her, if you cannot get them from the DA.

But, again, I urge the young men and families to please STAY IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND/OR THE CLERK OF COURT. That is the ONLY way this case will reach a conclusion. Do NOT rely on the system to do its job -- do it yourself, and MAKE SURE you know when court dates are scheduled, and BE THERE [no matter if the DA tells you to be there or not].

Use this forum to post the next court date so ALL of the witnesses will know when to be present. Speaking of which, WHEN IS THE FIRST COURT DATE? Will you be there?

We saw with the first case that major events can happen in court when the DA does NOT expect them to [such as the court date in which the previous charges were dismissed]. Had the young men and families been there that day, the case would NOT have been dismissed -- it would have been tried to a resolution. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do NOT let that happen again.

Yes, the DA is SUPPOSED to keep you informed, but do NOT rely upon him to do so, PLEASE. He is like so many in the legal profession who get tied up in their schedule and forget the incidental details like keeping in touch with witnesses. Yes, that is his job; but the legal system is so bogged down with cases today that attorneys do not always have time to do their entire job properly. Thus victims must keep themselves apprised of what is going on, and not take "no" for an answer -- be persistent and you will reach a resolution here. Trust the system, and you will fail in your mission. Stand up for your rights, keep yourselves informed of what is happening, and when the next court dates is, and commit yourselves to be present on those dates, PLEASE. If you are not present, believe me, the opposing attorneys will use your absence against you!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Mouse,

Thank you for your information. Yes, we were all told we were not needed YET at those court dates last year and so we were not there. I understand not to allow that to happen again. As I've been told their first court date is June 6th for this case. Both Stan and Leigh (Lucinda) are scheduled to be there in court room 00C1.

Snappy,

I cannot speak for other family's I can only speak about mine, my son was not from that kind of situation. Stan may think it, but it is NOT true. I know you don't know me, so therefore you may not believe me now. As the case progresses and you meet some of us, I'm hoping you will be open minded to the idea that you may have been deceived as I by him. Snappy, I have often wondered why he left that first church so abruptly. His explanation was that someone in the church was molesting some of the young girls. If this is true or not, I do not know and am not claiming this is true, I was never at that church and don't even want to believe such a thing. But that is what my son was told by Stan Mitchell-since you were at that church you may know something about this...right or wrong. If it is untrue, there you go...the deceit has begun...With slanderous comments concerning your church, no less.


To all and especially Family Friend,

All I ask of you is that you realize the fact that you were on the outside looking in, you do not know what went on in this house. You saw what they wanted people to see and that is all.
I can accept you think I'm in the wrong, as long as you accept that I think you are wrong in believing him. The case will prove the facts.

This said, I think it is time to realize truly this is not about WHO is right or wrong, but more of a question of putting more children in harm IF we are right.

Can we ALL at least agree to be concerned about these boys? Troubled, lost or whatever...these boys are important as they are a living human being.

I've asked a question above that no one seems to want to answer I'll put it here now:

If your child came home one day from school with injuries, would you say oh, well you were in a Godly place so it is okay that you were beaten today? OR would you be a responsible parent and take action to see to it that the school never hurt anyone else ever again? I would hope you would have enough honor in your soul to do the latter!

NOW FAMILY FRIEND:

Next time you want to yell at someone for something they said, please be sure you address the correct person as you have blasted Justice Seeker for something I said.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

which part of that are you referring to fact seeker?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

family friend,

You seem to have plenty of time, READ the posts and then read what you wrote and I'm sure you can figure it all out.

Still no answer to the question?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

ok since you want to be sarcastic about it, the only thing i see is where YOU said meet up with me and say whatever to my face. It seems as though you need to READ the posts. Know the FACTS , FACT SEEKER. That is before you tell me what it is that Im saying to the wrong person I made no mistakes those were made to you and Justice seeker.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

LET ME MAKE MYSELF PERFECTLY CLEAR>>> I AM SICK OF MY SON BEING REFERRED TO AS A TROUBLED BOY, I THREATENED TO SUE FOR SLANDER AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE THREATENED

THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY. >>>> OR HAVE YOU HEARD THIS IS A CRIMINAL CASE. HELLO!!!!

FAMILY FRIEND, YOU NEED TO READ MORE CAREFULLY BEFORE TYPING ON HERE YOU ARE CONFUSING TO MANY POST TOGETHER. OH! WHAT IS A MATTER? ARE YOU FLUSTERED AND GRASPING FOR STRAWS WHERE THERE ARE NONE?

I HAVE A QUESTION? SOME WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE FATHERS. LETS SEE MMMM!!!!! WHAT KIND OF FATHER IS STAN MITCHELL? I REALLY WANT TO HEAR THE ANSWER TO THIS.

MOUSE,

I DO NOT KNOW YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INFORMATION. THE MORE I FIND OUT THE MORE EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE. JUST FOR YOUR INFO. I WILL FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS UNTIL THE BITTER END. I WILL SEEK JUSTICE FOR MY SON AND THE OTHERS. I WILL MAKE SURE NO OTHER CHILD EVER GOES THROUGH THIS AGAIN. I WILL BE AT COURT EACH AND EVERYTIME I NEED TO BE. I WILL INFORM THE WORLD IF I HAVE TO. SO THEY CAN ARM THEMSELVES AGAINST THE MITCHELL'S. PLEASE KNOW THIS >>>> I BELEIVE IN MY HEART OF HEARTS THAT MY SON WAS ABUSED AS WELL AS OTHERS. I AM NOT OUT TO RUIN ANYONE'S LIFE. HOWEVER, I WANT TO SAVE LIFE'S. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[snappy (snappy)]

fact_seeker, I read your last post and yes, you are right, I do not know you no more than you know me. I think I have made it very clear that I am not taking sides, I am open to the facts and will wait until I hear all the facts before drawing any conclusions. I'm just saying don't put the cart before the horse. I do have a problem with how he left the last church, our former pastor left and so did Stan right after. The church and alot of members (myself included) worked many hours on the beautiful house that was built for them at no charge, only to have them up and leave for no good reason that I know of. That was about the last time I ever saw him. I know nothing about the allegations of child molesting at my former church. Like I said earlier, if he is guilty of the charges leveled against him then he will have to pay the piper, plain and simple.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Justice seeker I am not confusing. I am stating an opinion and that is my opinion. Some of the posts are to you and some are to others, Not all posts have to be addressed to you!!!!! Im not quite sure that I understand your strange comment about the straws, but I feel the way I feel and you the same, dont trash some ones opinion because they are not yours.

[mouse (mouse)]

Snappy, our Mom often wondered how your church and all of Stan's other sources of support felt about him selling the home that was built and paid for by you all, and the money from that sell being swindled away on a SUV and a trip across country for Stan, his immediate family, and the boys within the home at that time. The home/school/mitchell's do not have a home, to this day, that I'm aware of, nor anything else to show for all of your hard efforts and support . . . except this case, a vehicle [I suppose they still have the SUV or some form of transportation], and hopefully a few lives that were transformed for the better along the way. Surely all of your efforts and support were not for naught. Do you remember Anthony? Last year I saw him at my sister's funeral and he was living in my area, married and had a beautiful, new baby.

[i_know_the_truth (i_know_the_truth)]

Obviously none of you have ever ran a home for troubled boys (sorry ma'am, you'll just have to sue me for slander, your boy is troubled) You don't know what directors of home go through and put up with. They are on the clock 24/7. BTW, how much did you pay Bro. Mitchell to keep your son? I'll verify it with him. You probably paid nothing, or the most he may charge is $300. You can send your kid to a good private day school for that, much less a place where he is schooled, fed, housed, and yes, something you wouldn't do, disciplined! Why are the kids wanting to come back to his home? Why did that one kid who was 18 refuse to leave when all this happened? He wanted to be with Bro. Mitchell. So ma'am please, SHUT UP!

[snappy (snappy)]

mouse, I remember Anthony very well and am glad to hear that he's doing well, I would love to see him. Me and Stan were very close at one time as we immediately became friends when I joined the church. I thought the world of him. I'm sure as much as Stan has helped some people, I'm sure he's turned some against the cause of Christ by his actions at our former church. Quite frankly he had a gravy train and when the former pastor left so did the gravy, that is why he left I honestly believe. He was supplied vehicles while he was with us also, I'm very sad to hear he swindled all that God had given him away. Our efforts were not for naught, God knows our heart and motives at that particular time, and we honestly had some good times. If he has indeed squandered all his money and support away, he really doesn't deserve a house. If you saw the house in Caswell, and I assume you did, then you know how truly blessed he was to have been in that position, it was a dream home to me. I'm wondering now if we ever met, I don't believe we did though.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

MR I KNOW THE TRUTH,
You defiantly sound exactly like stan & leigh themselves. I knew you would one day find this board. Guess this board just went to hell in a hand basket.

The boy that was 18 and didn't leave only stayed because he was scared and concerned for the other boys. I know this as a fact! JACK!

As for the fees, the cost the parents paid was NOT the only money he made. He has made a life out of begging for money from churches. Do you know how many churches supported his lifestyle?? Plus he lived with NO household obligations, and had a hired cook. I still think the allegations had something to do with Ms Rose's stroke, stress kills. Sounds like a pretty good life for himself. Until you know: YOU SHUT UP!

MOUSE:
I am so sorry for your loss of your sister. AND I am so glad that your mother is not having to live this over again with Stan as I understand it, HE REALLY DID PUT HER THROUGH HELL THE FIRST TIME HE WAS A CRIMINAL.

Snappy: Thank you. Yeah LOTS of people wonder about that home that was built by the sweat and money of others just to line his pockets. So I take it he didn't even bother to pay tithes to the church from the proceed of the sale. That is a GODLY duty. Not a choice.

Family Friend, I see you still will not address the question on hand. That tells a lot about your character. Go jump back in your hole!

[i_know_the_truth (i_know_the_truth)]

I see YOU are not answering the question at hand. I didn't ask how much money he had coming in, that's none of our business, I asked how much YOU paid for YOUR son to be taken care of. If it's such a great life, jump in and start a home! As for your fact, how come that boy is STILL THERE even after ALL the boys went home. There is nobody for him to worry about getting abused now. WELL?.........

[i_know_the_truth (i_know_the_truth)]

I see YOU are not answering the question at hand. I didn't ask how much money he had coming in, that's none of our business, I asked how much YOU paid for YOUR son to be taken care of. If it's such a great life, jump in and start a home! As for your fact, how come that boy is STILL THERE even after ALL the boys went home. There is nobody for him to worry about getting abused now. WELL?.........

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Sorry, I thought you meant one of the other boys that stayed with them after his commitment was up. As for why this one stayed, I can't tell you. I haven't asked him. The information I have comes straight from the boys....not something I thought up or took a wild stab at. Until I know for sure because I heard it from him, I cannot answer that. Have I addressed your question now?

How about 1 single answer from anyone of you supports of Stan. You keep avoiding it. That in itself tells me you would send that child back to school to get beaten again. With no regard to YOUR OWN CHILD'S well being, wonderful parents you all are. Why would you want to hear the truth, if you don't care about your own child, you certainly don't care about anyone elses. That is real christian.

Why do you want to know how much I paid? Trying to figure out who I am?

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

would not send my child away. I have made plans if something was to happen to me I know they will go to good God fearing peaple. Your turn how much did you pay for yuor son to be fed, clothed ( as for dressing them up and perading them around because the looked like young men,what his he dressed in now straddle hangin to his knees??? you didnt support them)and even schooled.

[mouse (mouse)]

I KNOW THE TRUTH, is the boy that's still there, if I understand you correctly, is he Stan's natural, illegitimate child from a long-ago girlfriend? I understood Stan's oldest son, whom he hadn't previously known, was at the home for awhile, but I do not know how long he stayed, or if he's still there. But he was supposedly there in or around 2002, around the time when Mom passed, and I wondered if he was the one that stayed when Stan was originally charged, or how he faired at the home. I never had the pleasure of meeting him, that I'm aware of.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Oh My gosh people you are pathetic, you cant even stick to the problem at hand!!!Anyways, Fact seeker and Justice Seeker, I know who you are!!!! You dont know me. Fact Seeker, I know you are not a good parent. Your son is now 22, I remember seeing him at Believers Baptise, Stan took him in and put Bond Money up to get him out of jail. Is that not correct? He came on his own, you had nothing to do with it. Yall just wanted someone there to to bail your son out of Jail and you were angry because they turned him back in because he was getting ready to leave and stuck him with paying the bondsman.

Justice Seeker- You need to remember that when your son came to the school you had to fill out paperwork, you wrote down every problem that he had and need I say more? Also from what I heard it was your son that call the Mitchells up about 2 months ago and said he was sorry for the LIES he told. So lets get them to pull phone records and see if its true. I also agree with MOUSE lets go get this thing heard and put behind them do they can go on with their lives. WE will see you in court on June 6th @9:30 that way yall can show your face and support the charges, after all you supported the charges so well the last time.
And a few Questions for you all?
If they beat these boys they why did some stay so long, two , threem four years?

When they went off with parents to go shopping why did they not say anything then?

Some boys I recall went home for a 3 week vacation thy did they not say anything then? Please dont refer to them ad being afraid to say anything after all youre the parent while you were off together all they had to do was tell youand you could have drove them home and turned the Mitchells in and you would have gotten their clothes. Come on people WAKE UP the Mitchells did nothing to these blys and they had plenty of chances to say something. I think the only ones they are afraid of are you!!! The boys parents also visited once a month and went to church with them and why no problems until now!!!!!!!!!!
Remember you are hearing a one sided case thru the media, because under the advice of lawyers the Mitchells have been told to say no comment.
Psalms 41:7 All that hate Me whis together against me: against me to they devise my hurt.
Vs:11By this I know that thou favourest me, Because mine enemy DOTH NOT triumoh over me.
Romans 8:28 And I know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to His purpose
Vs:31 WHat shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
vs:33 who shall lay anthing to the charge of Gods elect?It is GOd that Justifieth,
Vs:37 Nay, In all these things we are made more than conquerors through Him that loved us.

Yall keep referring as this to stan & Leighs Boys School but How wrong you are God called them to helping troubled boys Read theyre prayer card.
ANd for Fact seeker you shut your stinking lieing mouth about Mrs. Rose you have NO PLACE to talk about her or even bring her up. SHe loved the Mitchells and literally worked up until she could for the work of God.
Yes there is a boy still there and he loves the Mitchells and stands behind them. THis Fact seeker IIIII know for fact...Jack!!!!

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Fact seeker you also keep asking the question WOuld we send our children there or back there?
I dont think anyone is avoiding it but its that its an invalid question. We think that hes innocent so thats a very stupid question to askpeople that are behind him.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Family friend, My dear I now know exactly who you are! The only one with such information (being personal files) would be stan himself, I've been wondering about that ever since you mention "your wife says" regarding an earlier post. You seem to think you know a lot, sorry to say...your so wrong...guess again buddy!

My question did not ever ask if you would send them to the mitchell school. It was asking in regard to A school. any school, private, public or whatever...READ AGAIN...What would you do if this was YOUR child: Ignore or act? Take stan out of the equation because he isn't in this question.

If your child came home one day from school with injuries, would you say oh, well you were in a Godly place so it is okay that you were beaten today? OR would you be a responsible parent and take action to see to it that the school never hurt anyone else ever again? I would hope you would have enough honor in your soul to do the latter!

Concerning my comment about Ms. Rose, I agree she was a very loving caretaker and probably the only REAL love these boys felt in that home. I highly doubt she thought the beatings were humane. I'm saying this situation probably put undue stress on her.

So we all think we know Stan Mitchell and we hear from his own sister of a child, where was Stan when that child was being raised? Why did his sister not know this child, was it because he wasn't active in that child's life? (Oh my, a bad comment about a father...) How could he help young boys, when he didn't care about his own kid. WOW great dad, give him that daddy of the year award! No wonder this kid ended up in jail, look what his father was all about.

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[family_friend (family_friend)]

you know thats truly comical that you think that Im Stan , personally I dont think that Stan would Waste his time worrying about what youre wrting on here. My husband you know has this thing called a job and he posted that comment about HIS WIFE from work, I am his wife but we are signed under the same name and we are just that FAMILY FRIENDS. Think about your assumptions a little further before you make them, and Im not your Buddy!!!!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Then tell me why you feel you have information from privileged, private, and btw confidential files? As a school teacher, I know there are privacy laws, and by allowing you to read those confidential files, you and stan have broke a law. (hope that makes better sense now)

Otherwise, if you now say you did not read those files what proof do you have of your information?

(Message edited by fact seeker on May 26, 2005)