Abounding Grace School For Boys Part III

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Family friend-

The way I see it, you DON'T understand much. Finally something we can agree on.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Fact Seeker, you know what I find most amusing about you is that you are always ready to run people down, but you never have any proof or a valid backup behind what you say, you are always ready to jump to childish antics and call names. The way I see it is that you dont understand much. Just because youre Stans ex girlfriend from long ago doesnt mean you know what went on in the home or what goes on now. You are only digging a hole and burying yourself. DO you think youre getting me fired up? No I only like I said find it amusing that you talk about GOd and how much you are trying to save "these boys" from STan Mitchell, but do you know God? I think these boys have guts to come on here and tell their story. No I never lived in the home but they did, and youre telling them how much they dont know, wow Your right I dont understand you. But I understand How GOds faith works and have seen GOd bless the Mitchells abundantly before all this has happened and even during this situation, so It makes my faith a little stronger (In GOd that is) SO maybe I should have directed an earlier statement at you, what you need is to enroll at a school like Abounding Grace and get the moral training and discipline that you need!!!!

(Message edited by family_friend on June 15, 2005)

[snappy (snappy)]

Let me tell you something family friend. It very much is "our" business when I'm one of the ones who worked on the massive house we built him in Caswell. Did you ever see it? Were you there for the dedication? How come on one will answer those questions? What kind of testimony is that to up and leave like that? How about the lost folks that helped out on the house, what do they think now? Let me tell you this, you better hope Bro. Harrison don't leave because if he does the Mitchells will be gone in a flash to the next gravy train they can find. And Brad, does your mother know you're on the internet? You came back on here and LIED again about Kidd AFTER he's already put you in your place. You better hope Stan doesn't find out about you running Kidd down because thats one of his favorite preachers. Kidd has your number, and so do I son. By the way, God never told Stan to leave Friendship, his god left when the pastor left.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Snappy,

I am not for sure if this is true or not. But, I have been informed by an ex-member of the church that Preacher Harrison has left the church as well as many members.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Snappy,

Keep in mind the Mitchell's have these charges to face now and they are stuck.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Family friend,

I find you totally amusing too, you want to say your not the mitchells, but you post just like you are the mitchells. You get angry and you talk just like him. Since the mitchells have been advised by their attorney's to shut up, how could you have all this so called information?? How on earth can you explain everything that you say, if your not the mitchells?

BECAUSE YOU ARE STAN AND YOU ARE LEIGH TRYING TO BE SOMEONE YOUR NOT!!! Trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Nothing you can say or do can change what you have done. You made your choices, you made people think you are something your not, now deal with it. Deception is not Godly.

So you keep saying who you think I am? Why does it matter to you who I am so much????? Are you afraid of me or something? Why does it bother you so much that I won't give you my name?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Ok I have a lot to respond to this morning, Justice Seeker Bro. David did resign from our church because of severe back problems, we have a new pastor now and we all support Stan Mitchell and his family.
Fact Seeker,
I dont really care who you think I am do I need to give you my address or something? How about this Ill be there August and tell you who I am then, the Mitchells attorneys have not advised them to shut up as you say, I know I have been there and talked personally to them. How would you know what is Godly? Please do not make me laugh by asking am I afraid of you? I just think that if you want to use a name like fact seeker you should state the facts, youre so busy telling others about Stan Mitchell and Leigh and running them down, that you dont use your own name!!!! Do you have something to hide? Are you scared for others to know who you are?
Snappy,
I dont want to argue with you because it seems as though youre one of the Christians on here. Im just saying that it has been my teaching in church that houses and material things dont matter, Im sure that if the Mitchell had the choice they would love to live in a very nice big house, but in my heart I know that when God tells you to up and move you do just that, otherwise youre out of Gods will and life is much more miserable in that state than any other.
And fact seeker just for your further acknowledgement there are committees being formed to support the Mitchells and silence will not be the factor in this case much longer. After all were not going to sit silent and let the Mitchells be crucified on the altar of your eager opinions. Just because Im a Christian doesnt mean Im not human, I cant sit by all let unjustice be served on the innocent.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

FF,
But you're perfectly happy to sit and watch children being beaten and being made to eat their vomit and being treated inhumanely?? Your willing to sit there and watch Stan & Leigh get richer and richer off this whole thing.

How about you build them a big nice house out of your own money and hard work, so they can sell it and take off for a nice long summer vacation.

Okay. I understand you completely!!!!!!!

Have a nice life.

[snappy (snappy)]

family friend, all I'm saying is that it was the perfect will of God according to Stan to have that massive house built in Caswell, no doubt about it. I find it very hard to believe that one minute it's the perfect will of God and then no time later it's not God's will. That makes no sense. I don't know how long you've known them but I'm sure it's not as long as I have. I really think people get in their head what they think Gods will is when in fact they really don't know. "well, this feels right so it must be the will of God" I would like to ask who your new pastor is if you don't mind just out of curiousity.

[phillip_boseman (phillip_boseman)]

Snappy,
It might have been God's will for Bro. Mitchell to live in that big house for a short time. Then God told him to leave to see how faithful he was to listen and not stay caught up on a material thing.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

FAMILY FRIEND,

THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO YOUR POSTING ON 6/11/05 AT 4:53 PM.

FIRST OF ALL I AM NOT UNJUSTLY AND MENDACIOUSLY TRYING TO CONCEAL MY TRUE IDENTITY. AS I HAVE STATED BEFORE WHEN EVERYTHING IS OUT IN THE OPEN IN THE COURT SYSTEM YOU AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW EVERYTHING. ALL THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS THAT THE MITCHELL’S HAVE TRIED SO HARD IN GOD’S NAME TO HIDE AND ALL THE FACTS OF THE MALICIOUS ABUSE OF OUR CHILDREN WILL BE REVEALED.

CONTINUE MY PATTERN AND HABIT OF LYING. WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT? WHAT LIE HAVE I TOLD?

AS TO THIS COMMENT: “Second you deceitfully misrepresent the character and integrity of you allegedly abused son. In point of fact "Justice Seeker" turned her wayward son over to a boys reform school bacause of her failure as a mother. If a juvenile delinqunet has a good mother in the first place the he would not be dumped into a REFORM school.”

MY SON HAS NEVER BEEN A JUVENILE DELIQUENT. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? YOU DO NOT KNOW ME OR WHAT KIND OF MOTHER I AM. FURTHERMORE, NOW YOU ARE CALLING ABOUNDING GRACE A REFORM SCHOOL, THIS IS NEWS TO ME. I THOUGHT IT WAS A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL.

AS TO THIS COMMENT: “This so called "Justice Seeker" is in a state of denial. Rather than admit to her failure as a parent resulted in her sons "life being destroyed" she acts out her guilt by ruthlessly slandering the only devoted, consistent, loving, caring, self-sacrificing, and boundary setting that these boys have ever known.”

MY SONS LIFE WAS DESTROYED BY THE MITCHELLS ABUSE, NOT MY PARENTING. MY SON IS MY LIFE. I AM NOT ACTING OUT MY QUILT BY RUTHLESSLY SLANDERING THE MITCHELLS. THE ONLY THING THE MITCHELLS WERE DEVOTED TO IS DESTROYING CHILDREN. SELF-SACRIFICING MORE LIKE MONEY HUNGRY!

AS FOR THIS COMMENT: “Not only that but Justice Seeker signed and express consent form that allowed corporal , that is physical punishment. So please quit telling everyone that you dont believe in spanking a child.”

FIRST OF ALL I HAVE NEVER STATED I DO NOT BELIEVE IN SPANKING A CHILD. HOWEVER, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN BEATING A CHILD. WHAT DOES CORPORAL PUNISHMENT MEAN TO YOU? HOW MANY TIMES WOULD YOU SPANK YOUR CHILD AT ONE TIME? WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH THAT YOU ARE CROSSING THE LINE INTO ABUSE?

AS TO THIS COMMENT: “Justice seeker is only aware of the fact that her son wanted to leave the discipline that the school required, they were dealing with juvenile delinquents , some of who literally had the choice of jail or the school.”

YOU ARE SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH THAT YOU WOULD NOT KNOW IT IF YOU WERE SLAPPED IN THE FACE WITH IT. I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE REALLY WAS JUVENILE DELIQUENTS IN THERE. I KNOW MY SON WAS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN A JUVENILE DELIQUENT. AGAIN, YOU ARE ONLY HEARING WHAT THE MITCHELLS HAVE TOLD YOU.

AS TO THIS COMMENT: “I hope that Bridget will realize that what she really needs is to enroll in a school like Abounding Grace to get the moral training and discipline she needs.”

ENROLL IN AN ABUSE CULT SCHOOL, NOT! I HAVE MORE MORALS AND DISCIPLINE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE.

AS TO THIS SCRIPTURE: Revelations 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whormongers, and the sorcerers, and the idolators, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.

YOU REALLY NEED TO BE SAYING THIS TO YOURSELF AND TO THE MITCHELLS.

I WILL LEAVE BY SAYING THIS. YOU ARE SO NAIEVE! FURTHERMORE, YOU COME ON HERE CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN. WHAT CHRISTIAN TALKS TO PEOPLE AND PUTS THEM DOWN AS YOU HAVE? YOUR COMMENTS ON HERE REALLY SHOWS YOUR TRUE COLORS. IF, THIS IS THE WAY THAT MEMBERS CONDUCT THEMSELVES AT BELIEVERS BAPTIST NO WONDER THE MITCHELLS ARE ABUSERS OF CHILDREN. YOU ARE REALLY MAKING YOURSELF LOOK BAD AND VERY UN- CHRISTIAN LIKE. DO NOT EVEN COME BACK WITH THAT I HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK BECAUSE I AM PUTTING DOWN THE MITCHELLS. I AM STATING THE FACTS. THE REASON I AM STATING THE FACTS IS TO PROTECT CHILDREN. YOU ARE BEING DOWN RIGHT NASTY.

JUST FOR YOUR INFO. YOU REALLY NEED TO DO SPELL CHECK BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING. IT REFLECTS YOUR DEGREE OF INTELLIGENCE.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Our new pastor is Bro. Randy Robbins, and he is the sweetest preacher and a big exhorter to his people. Obviously Fact seeker you know nothing of what you speak, I have never stated That I like to sit by and watch children be abused, I know the Mitchells and have known them for a long while and this just simply did not happen, like I said I didnt liv there, but obviously you dont want to hear the truth because there have been numerous boys that have came on here and told you the truth and you blow it off. I dont understand how you would know this if you yourself have never had a child in the home. Your going off emotions and what youve heard I believe that would be called GOSSIP.
Snappy,
I can understand the hurt and confusion that this may have caused you, but I have seen Missionaries be called to even go across seas, and have to leave nice houses and nice cars and a comfortable life to do Gods will, but they listened and recieved theyre calling. Im not saying the Mitchells went across seas but maybe there were deeper issues that were behind the scenes that many may not know about. Like I said I know you must have been hurt but pray and maybe God will give you the answer you need.
Fact Seeker,
I will have a nice life and a blessed life because Im not saying things that are so and like the young man said earlier, I can wake up in the morning and know that I serve a loving and gracious God and that im not telling any lies.
you ma'am have a nice life!!!!!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Phillip,

I understand your point, but Why did he pocket the money from the sale of that house then? Why not just walk away and follow his will? Why sell it and use the money for a vacation? That wouldn't be God's will to make money off something someone else gives them. He does that frequently, gets "things" given to the home and says it was to sell to raise money for the ministry. I know someone that gave him something that was very useful and had been sought after by the mitchells, my friend was shocked to learn it had been sold.

[snappy (snappy)]

It's no use trying to talk to family friend about any of this, because he can't stand the thought of any of it being true. I don't have to pray about anything to see how Stan is, God gives us common sense and expects us to use it. You're not seeing the great big picture. I'll try to explain it for you one more time. The Mitchells were living in a single wide trailer in Caswell County. It was not enough room for them and we began to seek other solutions for them and this is how the house came about. I'm telling you it was the perfect will of God, according to Stan, to have the house. Alot of people, some lost, some not, gave up alot so they could have this house, free of charge. Then, when our former pastor up and left, so did Stan, did God tell him to, I seriously, seriously doubt that. And even if he did, that money was not his, WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MONEY? You refuse to even let it enter you're mind that something might not be up to snuff, that' why. I don't know how long Bro. Harrison has been gone but I would be willing to place money on the fact that once this trial thing is over, that the Mitchells will move on from Believers Baptist, and go to the next honey hole they can find. I can about tell you where as a matter of fact.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

FAMILY FRIEND,

WHY NOT PRACTICE WHAT YOU ARE PREACHING AND I QUOTE "Your going off emotions and what youve heard I believe that would be called GOSSIP."

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

family friend,

I just want you to know I read what you have to say. I still stand on what I have said. You know nothing!!!! ONLY WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW. And personally I can't wait to see the look on your face when your hero is up there trying to defend himself against the ugly truth.

You think you know everything? Just wait, there are a LOT of facts out there that you have no idea about. They have been hidden for a reason. You only THINK that you know everything. AS YOU HAVE STATED YOU WERE NOT THERE 24/7. If you were to do some of these things that this alleged Godly man did to those kids, would you be dumb enough to let an adult witness it? Oh, Please!

There is no defense for what he did! There is no excuse for what he did!!!!

As for your statement of leaving the church to follow God's will, that is fine and dandy....but WHY DID HE SELL THE HOUSE AND TAKE OFF WITH THE MONEY WITHOUT GIVING THE CHURCH ONE DIME???? That surly was not what GOD intended when he called them away...Defraud the church out of the house AND money? I think NOT!!! He may have told them to leave, but not in the manner they did. So I don't believe it was God's will, I believe it was his pockets will.

ALL STAN MITCHELL IS ABOUT IS MONEY! PURE AND SIMPLE.

You think you know all there is to know about him? YOUR SO WRONG!!!

As far as the boys that have come out on this post, I've said it before and here it is again:
For every one that came out with a good experience, there were several that were abused. PERIOD!

As for you saying: I have never stated That I like to sit by and watch children be abused. Well mister, it is like this:

If you back the mitchells, YOU are all about CHILD ABUSE.

[countless_blessings (countless_blessings)]

I'm the mother of one of the children that was in the AGSFB's Home. I've seen first hand how the boys intereacted with the Mitchell's. I've stayed in their home when my Mother (Ms. Rose) had her stroke. NO the Mithchell's did not cause My Mother to have her stroke. She(Ms. Rose) was where God wanted her to be.She loved the boys as if they were her own and if it was any abuse going on. I can asure you that she would not have been there. I stand by the Mitchell's 110% My son stands behind the Mithchells. There is one thing that I just have to say. All the time's that I was at the boys home and interacting with the boys, Not once did any of them tell me there was a problem in the home. They had the opportunity to talk to an adult if they were being abused. My son would of told me if there was a problem. The boys that are making the accusations were in the home for 2-3 years. Why would they wait so long to make accusatins?? If they were afraid of what might happen they had the opportunity to talk to someone long before they did. What are your kids doing now. Are they doing drugs, smoking, drinking. I can just about guess that alot of them are. They were taken out of the home that was giving them love, guidance and teaching them the Bible.That's what is wrong with the world today. Families are getting away from God and that my friend is why all of our kids are in trouble.And the majority of our kids will probably wind up in Hell. There needs to be more homes like that of the Mitchell's.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Snappy,

That is my concern that the Mitchell's will move and abuse children again. I can not go to sleep at night knowing what I know. As a parent I have to stop them. Please I urge you to contact The District Attorney's office at (336) 249-0373 and ask for Rob Taylor.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Countless Blessings,

Wayne knows what happen alright and so did Ms. Rose. All the facts will come out in court. Have you forgotten all of Stan's rules. Oh! I forgot you were not exposed to those rules and favortism was showed with you because of Ms. Rose. I want you to know I have no problem with Ms. Rose, I really liked her. My son really loved her and has spoke only good about her. My opionion is that she stayed there to protect the boys. As for the comment about the boys drugging, smoking and drinking that is not Christian like behavior. The Mitchells did not teach love and guidance. The Bible they taught is what they wanted the boys to believe. What is wrong with the World today is that people like the Mitchell's use God's word to do their dirty work.

[snappy (snappy)]

Hanson, I'll tell you what son you tell me where you want to meet and I'll teach you a thing or two you should have been taught a long time ago. I haven't attacked anyone and you have NO proof of that. How old are you now? 13? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? You're a real tough guy on the net alright. Maybe this is one of the Mitchells instead of little bitty brad hanson. You've just got your panties in a wad because someone's put you in your place.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Countless Blessings,
I just want to thank you for having a wonderful mother there to take care of those children, as I stated before SHE was probably the only love in that house that those boys had. From what I understand, she loved them all. I think things got progressively worse after she left, which would explain why you only saw what you saw. I truly think she was like a mother figure to a lot of them there. One thing they all knew was how much she loved them. I'm sorry for your loss.

As for everyone asking why didn't the boys say anything? Because the ones that were being abused were being watched while they talked to people, and the ones doing the watching were doing as they were told, after all they didn't want a beating for not watching someone. THINK ABOUT FOLKS!

To everyone:
I'm reposting Brad Hanson's comments here, because he has a way of deleting his posts and I want everyone to see what this young man that went to Abounding Grace Reform School has to say.

Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 2:17 pm:

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HEY! YOU LISTEN HERE SNAPPY, WHEN YOU CALL PREACHER HAIZLIP BRO. MITCHELL'S god YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED I HOPE YOU PAY DEARLY FOR ATTACKING GOD'S MAN, TWOFOLD, IN THAT YOU ATTACK BRO. MITCHELL AND THEN YOU TALK ABOUT ANOTHER MAN OF GOD CALLING HIM BRO. MITCHELL'S god. IF I WERE IN NORTH CAROLINA TODAY I'D BEAT THE DEVIL OUT OF YOU, I DON'T CARE, I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR RETORTS OR YOUR "FEELINGS" I WOULD BEAT THE DEVIL OUT OF YOU! I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY TO ANYONE, I WOULD BEAT THE DEVIL OUT OF YOU I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE, HOW BIG YOU ARE, ANYTHING, I WOULD JUST BEAT THE DEVIL OUT OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brad, I noticed you used small letters for God's name, WOW!!!!!!!! You spoke some very harsh words in your post, wonder where you heard those words? Were they spoke to you at some time? How about why you were kicked out of ABG Reform School???

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Brad,

Oops! I had a typo. I have not seen on here where anyone has called family friend the b_ word. I have saved copies of the post. You are the one lying now. For the record he probably did not pay for the tapes. They were probably given to him like everything else he receives.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Brad,

Why don't you ask Stan for the money?

[true2god (true2god)]

I as a parent of one of the boys know what GOD has placed in my heart that what my son has told me to be true.
Please do one thing for me and stop and think how would you feel if it was your child that you don't have to hold,guide,and to be able to showing him a loving and true GOD that does care and loves him .
I know I serve a loving GOD and he is what changed my child's life around .And best of all my child is with his heavenly father. and I beleive in my heart and feel it my heart that if he wouldn't have died alot of this wouldn't have came out.
but like I have said before I will keep praying for GOD'S will to be done.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Brad,

I just got through reading over the post from May 25, 2005 and no were is anyone calling anyone a b_ word.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

True2God,

I have left my numbers at home. Please call me.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Brad,

You have absolutely crossed the line now. How dare you say what you have to True2God? That was not a warning from Stan it was a down right threat. Look at your actions on here you are making threats just like Stan. You have no idea what True2God has been through. Leave her and her children alone. God is watching you!

No one on here has stated that they hate God.

[true2god (true2god)]

brad let me give you some information for you
first of all my son died before anything came out about stan.
second of all my daughter died after him and it was not because of me accusing stan of anything
I have plainly told what stan has told me himself and what I saw myself.
thrid of all I think you need to prarice what you say.and besides you don't know what happened to my children and you need to wactn what you are saying cause when you go speak something on someone elses life it can come home to you.

justice seeker
I called but got your voice mail

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Brad,

I pushed your buttons today because I wanted everyone to see the way you are. You are no different today then you were before. So go ahead, delete your posts, I have copies.

You are a real piece of work! Yep, you haven't changed one bit. And to think, at one time I actually thought maybe, just maybe if you went and got some help for your warped self, you might be an okay kid. You have proved how wrong I was about that thought!

I don't know what planet you saw someone call someone a "B" word, but it wasn't here.

AND YOU WONDER WHY NO ONE WON'T CALL YOU?

YOU HAVE A LOT OF GROWING UP TO DO BOY. SO WHY DON'T YOU GO AWAY.

You say all these kids are out there doing stuff that isn't Godly, let's talk about your chicken.

YOU HAVE SHOWN WHAT IS IN YOUR HEART AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD!!!!

(Message edited by fact seeker on June 16, 2005)

[countless_blessings (countless_blessings)]

Justice Seeker,

I must tell you that My Mother was not at the Mitchell's to protect the boys. She was there because God put her there. Yes, she loved each and everyone of the boys. As I stated before she would not of been there if anything UnGodly was going on.

Wayne knows that nothing went on and only speaks very highly of the Mitchells. If I had of thought that anything was wrong or my son was being abused`He would of never been there and to this day he denies any abuse of any kind.

I recall one Sunday when the Parents were at the Mitchell's visiting and alot of You Parents stood up before eating lunch and praised Bro. Mitchell for all he was doing in the Lives of your children.

I guess I'm having a hard time believing that after you praise the man, now your condeming and Judging him. I've talked to alot of these boys and some even told me their testimony. If there was a problem in the home. Why did they not tell me.

I will continue to pray for each and everyone of the boys regardless of their accusations. God is still on the throne and he will have the final answer.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Everyone,

Bottom line! This chat board was started to inform the public of the abuse in order to protect children. It has turned into a whipping board for some. There is no need for threats or name-calling. If, some of you are Christians as you state you are you should know this better than anyone. We need to stick to the facts at hand. The fact that the Mitchell’s did abuse my son and other boys is the subject.

[phillip_boseman (phillip_boseman)]

countless_blessings please email me when you get the chance PJBoseman@earthlink.net

[true2god (true2god)]

brad
matthew 12 :36-37
36. But I say unto you, that every idle word that man shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgemebt.
37. For by the words thou shalt be justified,and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Ecclesiastes 12:9-14
9.And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.
10. the preacher sought to find out acceeptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.
11.The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.
12.And further, by these, my son,be admonished:of making many books there is no end ;and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13.Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter; FEAR GOD, and keep his commandments; for this is the whole duty of man.
14. For God shall bring every work into judgement,with every secret thing,whether it be good,or it be evil.

(Ephesians5:6) Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of GOD upon the children of disobedience.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Countless Blessings,

Again must I remind you of Stan's rules? How could they tell anyone? As for parents praising Stan at that time no one knew of the abuse. I wonder if Stan ever informed you of all the rules that the rest of us parents had to follow. I know for a fact that you were excluded from at least one of these rules. Because I questioned Stan about it. It seems as though Stan had his pets and then he had those who he tortured.

Seriously from one parent to another. I am not out to just ruin someone's life for no reason. I know for sure without a doubt that my son and others were abused. I want justice for our boys. Most importantly I do not want the Mitchell's to ever do this again. No matter what anyone on here says or thinks.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Brad,

Just one more question for you...Do you really think Stan is out of money? You are very naive if you do...he has your $15.00. Plus a lot more than anyone knows about, and when I say anyone, I MEAN ANYONE. As someone else mentioned, those tapes were most likely given to him, and he sold them to you. A real christian leader for the betterment of boys...would have known how badly you needed those tapes and would have been more than glad to GIVE them to you. Even if it did cost him something, he should have had the grace of God to just give them to you for free...see that actually shows how much he wants money. And, now just because now I'm really curious, are those the tapes you burned?????

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Im not on here trying to make those for Stan Mitchell look bad or argue with them or to change sides, but Brad honey, youre being a little too harsh and very unchristianlike. I personally think that what you said to true2God was way out of line about her children, I couldnt imagine going through that tragedy and someone telling me it was God judging me. I think that some come on here with dignity and respect for opinions and those are not the ones you need to blast. Try to have a little more tact about what you say. After all I think so far this has been a bashing forum but I think that some statements have taken it a little too far. Just remember that God knows what you write on here too.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

To everyone on this message board, you included my foe Family Friend,

I deeply apologize for pushing so hard on Brad today, but as you can see with a little pushing, he comes out like a madman.

I truly only did to get his response, because I knew he would explode. You see all the posts that he deleted were very very close to the same that we have seen here today. Only today, he showed he could be a little worse than he was in the spring.

The new folks never got to see his words, only a few of us that have been on here for a while knew what he had written. So to understand why we were so upset and spoke out the way we did on this board before, you would have had to know what else was being said, the posts that Brad deleted.

As I was looking back over this board, I can better understand some of the comments that were made when you first came on here. As I said, you were only seeing one side of a discussion. And for a while, it worked just as Brad wanted it too... Look at it like this, if what he wrote wasn't shameful, he never would have deleted it.

I'm not judging here folks, but something is definatly not right in that young man's life.

Again, I sincerely apologize to everyone, especially to you true2god and Snappy.

(Message edited by fact seeker on June 16, 2005)

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

fact_seeker,
What are these rules you talk of?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justwantthetruth,

I don't think I was talking about rules, but I believe what was said was something about some rules that Stan had were not for everybody. He picked which rules applied to which child. He had his pets.

I think that when ALL the information comes out, everyone will be able to understand more about why this case came to be.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. Like I said, I don't recall talking about the rules, and I don't want to cause the meaning of someone else's posts to be misconstrued.

[snappy (snappy)]

Brad, you are nothing but a punk son, plain and simple. I don't care how old you are I can take care of a little liar like you on my worst day. Out of the mouth comes the intentions of the heart, and you get on here and talk about being saved and then threaten to beat me up? Is this what Stan taught you in the "school" that if someone doesn't agree with you to beat them up? To "whoop 'em" as some of the so called boys have posted on here. The "school" was no more of a school than you are a christian. Riding around all the time from church to church for support and listening to preacher tapes is not going to further your education, which, by the way, you so desperatley need son. You are just as lost as when you came, by the way, I know exactly who you are, and if you think for one minute you're going to get me rattled you are wrong as can be. And for you to come on here and talk about someone who has lost a child and accuse them of having a hand in it is just wrong son. You are a dangerous punk who is treading on thin ice, you really need some help, help you obviously didn't get under Stan. I stand by what I said earlier, Stan left when the gravy train left son, and you can't deal with it. Maybe it's because you were along for the free vacation at our expense of the sale of the house, which I don't care how you slice it was wrong. I'm about through messing with you son, but if you ever threaten me again and show up here in North Carolina, I'll give you a whipping that your sorry parents should have given you a LONG time ago. Punks like you are a dime a dozen, hide behind that computer like the punk you are.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Just want the truth,

I am the one who said something about Stan's rules. Read the post! I probably said too much yesterday. Again everything will come out in court. You will have to wait until then to hear the ugly truth.

[snappy (snappy)]

Let me just say that the more I think about it, the more I'm finished with this hanson kid. He's nothing but a liar and has made this board worst since he came here. I apologize for getting off the topic at hand, which is Stan being accused of abuse, something that since the very beginning I've said I know nothing about. Go back and look at any of my post, since there all here and I don't delete them like this poor hanson kid. I want the truth to come out about Stan and these charges, and in due time it will. hanson, I refuse anymore to properly address you, but I will not respond to your personal email as I don't want your junk clogging up my email, but do let me know if you ever have the guts to come back to North Carolina, you can post it on here, I'll see it.

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

sorry for the mix-up, to be honest iam not perfect. Anyway i did read the post and you just say rules, did you have a list of rules given to you when your son went there and what were the difference in rules for parents?}

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

oh yeah just wondering are you the lady from Charleston that stood up and thanked God for the home so your son would have a good life?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

I think that this is one of the most well known stories of the Bible that each and every one of us need reminding of, regardless of whether you think the Mitchells are guilty or not.
John 8
1: Jesus went unto the Mount of Olives.
2: And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the Scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in th emidst,
4: They said unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5: Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: But what sayest thou?
6: This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him> But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though, he heard them not.
7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them.<font color="ff0000">He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8: And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9: And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, ans the woman standing in the midst.
10: When Jesus had lifted himself, and saw the none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11: SHe said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do i condemn thee; go and sin no more.
I think that we all need to take a long deep look at ourselves.
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[true2god (true2god)]

Heavenly father
I come before you today and lift up
all the people up to you that has been on this board.Father I ask that you will protect them,guide them,love them and keep your spirit about them.Father I ask that you will forgive us all for getting harsh with each other.Father for us parents that have those children that went through the abuse I ask that you would help us to have the patience that we need to have and help us to love one another like you want us to and even to love our enemies.Father your word tells me that we are to pray for are enemies and love them as we love you.Father your word even tells us that you will spread a table for us before our enemies

Father I will admit what Brad said yesterday did hurt and I did get upset with him but I ask you to forgive me of my childish ways and help me to love him and pray for him.
Father I lift all of the boys up to you I ask you to comfort each and everyone of them .I ask you to renew their mines and heal their spirits and show them you are a loving GOD,not just the boys father but all of us .
Father I ask that your will be done and I thank you for what you have done and will do.
Father I ask that if it's one on this board that don't know you that he will come to know you and that all of this backbitting and backstabing will stop and the real truth will come out in all of this.
Father I ask that if one comes on here to backbit or backstable someone that you would stop them right in their tacks. Satan I bind you up and plead the blood over each and everyone of us .satan you have no control over us or this board so you must flee .and know that the work you have set all to do will not be accomplish.
Fahter I ask that you will protect each and everyone of us and that you will keep your angels about us at all times and help us to put a gride on our tongues and say only what you would have us to say.

Father I love you and praise for everything you have done and will do.may you have the glory in the end.
In your holy name I pray.amen

[family_friend (family_friend)]

true2god
are you the mother of timmy, the one who died in the car accident?

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

True 2 God,

I agree with your prayer and I do not want to contradict myself. But I can admit I have a lot of anger in me for the Mitchell's. I hope that one day I will be able to forgive them. But right now the hurt runs to deep. Please pray for me.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Snappy Im not quite sure where you stand, not so long ago you were on Stans side it seemed, and then you had no stand, and now you seem absolutely against him. I went through the posts and heres what I found......
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:21 am:

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If you "mothers" would be just that and raise your kids the way you suppose to there wouldn't even be a need for boy's homes. You brought them into the world and it's your job to raise them, not some stranger. You come on here and do all this whining and carrying on when in fact it's no one's fault but your own. If you can't raise them don't have them.
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:03 pm:

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ontheroad, you come on here and tell us that we're acting ungodly? Have you read the post that are way before us. You folks have already tried the Mitchells and are ready to carry out the punishment before ALL the facts are presented. I'm not here to defend ANYONE. I was not there so I do not know what happened. If these children are going through a hard time in their life I understand that, but no where in God's word does it say that when the going gets rough to pass them off to someone else. What are the circumstances behind these boys being there? Where are the boy's fathers at? All the finger pointing is being done at the Mitchells and I don't see anyone taking any responsiblity. Too many times today so-called parents don't want the kids to start with, it interferes with their partying too much. Don't come on here and put all the blame on the Mitchells, I don't buy
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 8:09 am:

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Well, this is all I've got to say about the whole thing. IF Stan is in the wrong then the truth will indeed come out. I am not associated with Believers Baptist but know Stan from his previous church. I was around him quite a bit when the boys home started, and spent alot of time with him and his family. I never ONE time saw anything that made me wonder about his motives. I truly believe he wanted to help troubled young boys. If he has strayed then he'll have to answer for it. But let's look at the whole picture a minute. You parents couldn't or wouldn't deal with your child, so you send them to the boys home, which tells most people you didn't have a little angel at home to start with. I know first hand the conditions that some of the boys from years ago came from, alcoholic mothers and drug using dads. Now I'm not saying anyone on here is in the shape, I have no idea, so stick a cork in it if you're planning on coming back saying I accused someone on here of that. What I am saying is that some of the boys didn't like being told what to do and having rules to follow, simply because dead beat parents never made them have any responsiblity to start with. It's very easy for a child who is already rebellious to come up with lies to get of the situation they're in, plain and simple. Again, it may sound like I'm defending Stan but all the facts have not been presented, and I have not been around or seen Stan in probably 4-5 years. I'm not accusing anyone on here of anything either, but our current law says innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Im not questioning your motives and mean no harm but Ive always been taught that only a coward stands right on the line between wrong and right.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Just want the truth,

How many times to I have to say that I am not giving any details until everything is out in the open in court. I have never stood up and thanked the Mitchell's. Why? Do you all insist on knowing who I am? I have stated repeatedly in my post that I will reveal everything once it is out in the open in the courts. TO THE ENTIRE WORLD!

THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I TELL ANYONE ON HERE THAT I AM NOT DISCUSSING THE DETAILS UNTIL COURT.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Family friend,

Snappy has said that she wants to hear all the facts before making her decision. Why is that wrong in your eyes?

Yes, everyone new came on here and thought that Justice and I were over here ranting and raving, however, because Brad had deleted his posts nobody knew about the other side of that conversation and why we were saying what we have said.

After yesterday, I would think today you would realize that. Now that you know what prompted us to "try and convict" him was actually us defending our opinion against Brad Hanson...one of the products of ABGRS I would think you could understand more. But instead, today you decide that Snappy MUST make a decision right now, without all the facts, about where she stands. I clearly remember the day that Stan Mitchell put me in that same exact spot.

I've noticed that in each and every post you are actually prying for information. Which tells me a lot about your motives here, you say you are only speaking your opinion, but instead you are digging...your digging to find help for yourself.

I must end with the fact that if you have truly been taught that: only a coward stands right on the line between wrong and right - I feel very sorry for you. I suggest that you go back and read your post from this morning over and over until you get the message your trying to preach.

True2God:

Thank you for your prayer this morning, and I agree with every word. Bless you for being so kind and loving to even pray for our enemies, this is something I'm unable to do at this time, and yes, that is my sin...I understand and I will answer to my God, but no one else about it. I will ask that you will keep me in your prayers also, as I am very bitter towards the damage that has been done to these boys in that school. I hope that one day I can find forgiveness in my hart for them, but while they scream innocent, while so many boys are out there in pain, it is very hard for me.

This whole situation is totally disgraceful and I am ashamed that at one time I was blind to what was going on. I thank God that the truth came out and it can be stopped.

[snappy (snappy)]

family friend, why do you want to start something? You just got through posting about casting the 1st stone. I've made it clear that I'm not judging Stan on THIS charge he's now faced with. I think you've got a problem with TRUTH, and won't admit it. The things I stated about the house in Caswell are FACT, and just because you refuse to belive it doesn't change it. I think deep down inside what I've posted about that whole event has got you bothered. And now you've resorted to name calling, just like hanson. Are you two related? Is this really Stan posting? HOW COME YOU'VE NEVER ASKED STAN OR WON'T ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY WENT ON THE SALE OF THE HOUSE? The longer you post the more people see what Believers Baptist Church is all about. Did Harrison really resign because of a bad back or because he didn't want his ministry to have a black eye because of these allegations? HUH?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Ok Where do I begin?
I know where and I stand and thats that. As for the question about what they did with the money, As I stated Its none of my business and I told you that. I dont care what they did with the money because it has nothing to do with what this forum is about. I dont refuse to believe anything, You know the statement that Justice is Blind? I want the Facts either way, and I know what I have seen and what I have seen and i have stated that as well. I dont consider any of you my foes, Im not trying to start anything. I only posted that to you Snappy because It seemed as though in the beginning, you were neutral and now youre blasting me for saying some of the same things that you said in earlier posts, I think thats a fair statement, not meant to cause an uproar, only to get your reasons for that. I must say that the only thing I agree with some of you on is Brad Hanson, I dont know his motives and I dont know him, Although I do think that alot of what he says makes no sense. About David Harrison you have no idea of what you speak, look his number up and give him a call, If you only know what our church has been through, he was a dear man of God that went through great turmoil with his back problems, so please lets not even go there. May you recall my memory where in the last few weeks that I have called names? If I remember its some of you that keep questioning peoples intelligence because they dont do spell checks before they posts. My friends I have been consistent in my statements and sticking to the matter at hand. Just because I dont agree with all doesnt mean Im stupid, ignorant, and a devil as I have been called. Some of the things that have been said do not relate to the case and I am not going to respond to those things, so please dont ask me if you dont want an answer or if I dont answer a question maybe we need to use a little commonsense and assume that I dont know so please enlighten me. You come to Believers Baptist Church one time and you will see that no matter who you are, you will be welcomed. Yes I know that some of you will say I dont want to be associated with Believers but thats fine, you havent seen me bashing any of your churchs. I am not a mean spirited person and anyone who knows me would tell you that, but then again I really dont have to defend my character because I am not the one on trial and yes neither should any of you. I just believe in standing up for what I I I I I I think is right.

[snappy (snappy)]

family friend, you're off your rocker, you're post are starting to make no sense at all. I've never ONE time called you a name, but out of the blue you call me a coward. How come you can't get through your head what I've made perfectly clear on here time and time again I'M NOT JUDGING STAN OR ANYONE BASED ON THESE CURRENT ALLEGATIONS, I WAS NOT THERE AND HAVE NO IDEA AS TO WHAT HAPPENED. Show me one time on here where I've "blasted" you for anything, and as far as David Harrison, I've never one time said anything negative about him, ever. I know him from when he use to come preach at our previous church. I have no intentions of coming to Believers Baptist either. I was simply asking a question as his retirement and these allegations are sure timely with one another. I will say this, if you sat under Bro. Harrison long I don't think he taught you to come out with a bible lesson one minute and then start calling names the next. However, alot of independent baptist are just like that.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Snappy,
yes I should have made that a little clearer, those posts were made for anyone for whom the shoes fit. I didnt call you a coward I was making a general statement, I said in an earlier posts that you were one of the ones that I didnt
want to argue with, but yet each time I post anything General you come back saying things like "youre off your rocker" and "youre posts are making no sense at all" I dont see how my last post could have been any clearer. You told me earlier in the posts that I didnt want the truth and other things but theyre all rhetorical statments. I made it clear to you that I didnt know anything about the money and tried to tell you to pray and give it a Godly approach but you dont seem to want to accept anything nice I try to say. Im not going to argue and maybe since this is typing and not speaking You all cant hear my tone or the pleading in my voice. I believe in my heart of hearts that the Mitchells are innocent and will stand to that, Snappy you wanna email me and Ill give you my number and you can give me a call.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Family friend,

No where does it say it is a general comment to anyone on the board, it clearly is addressed to Snappy.

AS YOU PUT IT LAST NIGHT: Just remember that God knows what you write on here too.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

FAMILY FRIEND,

I CAN ACCEPT THAT YOU HAVE AN OPIONION AND THAT YOU BELEIVE IN THE MITCHELLS BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN. I AM NOT ON HERE TO TRY AND CHANGE YOUR MIND. MY MAIN CONCERN IS FOR THE CHILDREN. HOWEVER, I ASK ONE THING OF YOU.

REALLY THINK ABOUT THE FOLLOWING:

YOU HAVE STATED THAT YOU HAVE NOT BEEN AROUND THE MITCHELLS 24/7. YOU PROBABLY SEE THEM AT CHURCH, CHURCH FUNCTIONS AND SO FORTH. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT THE MITCHELLS ARE GOING TO LET PEOPLE OBSERVE THIS? EVEN THOUGH I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER ADULTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL HAVE WITNESSED THINGS. I REALLY THOUGHT AT ONE TIME THE MITCHELLS WERE CHRISTIANS THAT I COULD TRUST TO LEAVE MY CHILD WITH. I NEVER WOULD HAVE LEFT HIM THERE OTHERWISE. BUT I AM WITH MY SON NOW AND I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND WHAT THIS ABUSE HAS DONE TO HIM AND SO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY AS SOME HAVE SAID. I PAID FOR MY SON TO GO TO THIS SCHOOL AND THEN SOME. BESIDES STAN OPERATED THE SCHOOL OFF OF THE PARENTS TUITION DONATIONS FROM PEOPLE, AND CHURCHES. SO WHAT MONEY WOULD HE HAVE? WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF ABUSE? WHAT I MEAN IS THEIR ARE MANY FORMS OF ABUSE PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND SO FORTH>>> SO WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH? THIS MAY CONFUSE YOU BECAUSE AGAIN I CANNOT DISCUSS DETAILS. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WERE DONE TO THESE BOYS THAT IS NOT JUST PUNISHMENT. I BELEIVE IN PUNISHMENT! BUT THERE IS A RIGHT WAY AND A WRONG WAY. THE MITCHELLS HAVE CROSSED INTO DOWN RIGHT MALICIOUS ABUSE. AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE NEITHER ANIMALS NOR PRISONERS ARE TREATED LIKE OUR CHILDREN WERE. YOU ONLY SEE WHAT THE MITCHELLS WANTED YOU TO SEE. JUST MAYBE YOU HAVE SEEN OR HEARD SOMETHING THAT YOU REFUSE TO EVEN CONSIDER BECAUSE THE MITCHELLS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH BELEIVERS BAPTIST. JUST MAYBE YOU HAVE CARED AND LOVED FOR THE MITCHELLS SO MUCH THAT YOU CANNOT STAND TO EVEN CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE ARE TELLING THE TRUTH. WHATEVER THE REASON I DO NOT FAULT YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE WITH HELD ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE ABUSE. NO I AM NOT STATING THAT YOU HAVE WITH HELD INFORMATION. I AM JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU DID THAT IS WHEN I WOULD FAULT YOU. I CANNOT EXPRESS THIS ENOUGH>>>NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE THINKS THIS IS TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN. PERIOD!

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Fact Seeker, Maybe you should just stick to addressing posts that are actually addressed to you. I was not outright calling anyone a coward, but in your case if the shoe fits. If theres anyone on here that Im not trying to make mad its Snappy. Are you just trying to start something? Do you want to argue? Or is it that you are trying to do as you say and make my true colors come out? Well Nadine, thats not going to happen because Im not just some 18 year old boy on here trying to argue an invalid argument. I have tried to be nice and still let others know where I stand but obviously you cant deal with that. So from this point if you cant stick to the point at hand and continuously try to argue then do not address any posts to me, its as simple as that. Oh one more thing, Why is it that you speak nothing of God unless you are trying to mock others? Can you not think enough for yourself without taking someone else's posts and writing them for your own? YOu keep asking the same rhetorical questions and making the same retorical comments. I mean get some new material or get some new facts.

[angry_user (angry_user)]

family_friend, I have a question for you. Not wanting to get on your bad side or place assumption on who you really are for myself but here is the question. How do you know who other people on this message board really are if in fact you are not Stan or even Leigh Mitchell as you claim. For example: Well Nadine, thats not going to happen because Im not just some 18 year old boy on here trying to argue an invalid argument. How do you know what Fact_seeker's real name is if indeed you're not Stan or Leigh Mitchell?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

family friend,

I didn't say anything to you to deserve your blasting:

"No where does it say it is a general comment to anyone on the board, it clearly is addressed to Snappy.

AS YOU PUT IT LAST NIGHT: Just remember that God knows what you write on here too."

I simply pointed out that your entire post was addressed to snappy, and repeated your own words to you. And since you had such a reaction to my post I say that you don't like the fact that I echoed you and reminded you that: GOD SEES ALL.

If you can't deal with your own words, quit preaching them.

I have tons of facts for you my dear, but they are not for here. And when I do have my say, you will realize how wrong you have been!

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Fact seeker all I can say to you is GET OVER YOURSELF!!!!! Have you read your Bible lately?
Do you think that as a Christian Im not supposed to say anything harsh? Im just supposed to let you walk all over me? NO as I recall Peter called the people a generation of wicked, snakes in the grass. So therefore as I see it you have yet to speak anything legitimately Christian unless, like I said your mocking someone else. And my dear im very well aware of the fact that GOD SEES ALL. I think its you who needs reminding of that.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

family friend,

IF your not stan and leigh, then you need to quit taking this whole thing so personally.

PERIOD!

IF you are not the person that was charged, then YOU GET OVER YOURSELF, your opinion was heard, and unless your the one facing jail time, it isn't your fight. Get out of it!

IF you are stan and leigh, quit hiding behind someone else's name. GET TRUTHFUL.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Everyone,

I stumbled on another message board that was started about the Mitchell's. No! I did not start it either. Here is the link: http://allspinzone.com/blog/index.php?itemid=388&amp;catid=15

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Uh Hello!!! Fact seeker I think you need to better read what you write. Are you the one on trial here. I guess then it isnt your fight either. You even further prove what I said about you, you cant think for yourself, in almost every post you use what i say for yourself. How Immature im surprised I havent heard the words " I Know you are but What Am I?"

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Oh please ff! I will not even justify your post with an answer.

Justice,
I did a search on google...I found a couple porn sites that come up when you enter in "ABOUNDING GRACE SCHOOL FOR BOYS" (Wasn't me! ff so don't even start!) Wonder what that is all about??????!!!!?????

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Fact Seeker,

I found those along time ago. I have wondered too. I do not really know.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Justice seeker,
I did the same search on google and did not find anything. About the other message board, DO you know that if this is about the boys home directly or if they just used the school as a reference to a topic that they were on?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

What would they be referencing to on the porn site? That is just too crazy!!!!!!

Would it be safe to assume that the words "abounding grace school for boys" would be on the site if I did the search with quotes around those words? I'm not searching the site to see what is in it.

I'm just curious as to why those 2 sites come up when I do the search is ALL I'm saying.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

Go to google again. Do advanced search. Type in Abounding Grace School for Boys at the part where it says exact phrase. The second to the bottom and the last one:The All Spin zone. Click on that..This is how I found it anyway.

Yes! They are very much talking about Abounding Grace School for Boys. Once you get into the site in the very first comment there is a highlighted Abounding Grace School for Boys. That link takes you to WRAL.com article on the school.

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

Is anyone around the reidsville,nc area? Bro.Phil Kidd will have his tent up. they say by the flea market. This is a chance to hear a great man of God stand on the word of God and preach with power. he is a great blessing..Check him out if you can.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

hey justwantthetruth,

Thanks for the info on the tent sermon!

All,
I was looking over Dr. Kidd site tonight and found this message from our old pal Brad Hanson...

Comments: Hey snappy, why don't you tell everyone what website that is where you attack the Man of God (Bro. Stan Mitchell) on a constant basis. I'll tell everyone what website is so that everyone will know what kind of backbiter you truly are. I don't care who you have "rubbed shoulders with" or anything, but i want everyone to know what you think of a Man of God like Bro. Mitchell, http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/2818.html?1099949544

Brad,
Don't you go on Dr. Kidd's site and talk against him? Then please explain to me, why you can be against Dr. Kidd and it is perfectly okay...But if someone is against someone you believe in, they are wrong, called names, and threatened?

All,
Please help me understand, wouldn't this be a double standard? -- In any religion? Or just in some.

I'm just checking out the facts...I truly like Dr, Kidd's site, so please don't think I'm running it down. I'm just checking it out and am finding it interesting.


Justice Seeker,

Thanks for the info on the other site. Hopefully the more people that know what is going on, the easier it will be to keep the mitchell's from ever starting another home/school.

[snappy (snappy)]

I have a question but I don't know if anyone knows the answer. If the boys home is now closed how is Stan supporting his family? Are the churches that were supporting him still doing so? Anyone know his plans? Just wondering.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Snappy,

That is a good question. I've wondered the same myself.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Snappy,

From my understanding they have been going around to other churches asking for donations to help pay for their legal defense. Of, course they had a lot of companies that donated food: such as bread, drinks, and so forth.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

What is the difference of begging from churches and begging on a street corner? The clothes that they wear and the sign that they hold?

I think it is totally disrespectful to a church to be approached for funding for legal fees for child abuse. I sure hope that the misuse of church funding ends soon, there are so many real ministries that are in need of that money to do some real work for God.

[justwantthetruth (justwantthetruth)]

I also dont think its right but I dont know for sure what he doing and honestly would like to know but like she said "from her understanding" this is not a fact so now this will be spread around and once again starting without facts a story with no concreat info. I believe there is a word for that??

[snappy (snappy)]

No one started a story, it was a question I asked and no one has stated it as "fact" Why someone always wants to start something everytime someone post is beyond me.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Exactly, no story was started. A question was asked. And my comment was started with "I think" which means it is my opinion. Hope that clears up any confusion on my part.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

As I said it is my understanding! Let's just say there are sources out there.

[mitchells_mom (mitchells_mom)]

I am the mother of Leigh Mitchell. Over the years, Stan Mitchell has become my son.
I am going way back in time – Stan and I worked together for a printing company – I worked in the office and he worked in the production area. I only really knew Stan by name and that he was a polite young man with a pony tail. Leigh was 16 years old and Stan was 24 years old. In all honesty, I did not want Stan to become involved with my daughter. At that time, I was not even aware of Stan’s alcohol and drug problems. I told them they could not see each other until she was eighteen – then, on the advice of my mother, I made a decision – I felt that if we did not let them see each other, then they would sneak around behind my back – so I informed Stan that he could come to our house to see Leigh and in order to do this, he would have to attend church with us on Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night and revival meetings. I figured that this would last for about two weeks and he would disappear. However, within a few months, Stan was saved. God’s wisdom far exceeds that of Mothers. Leigh and Stan were married in an outdoor ceremony at our home. Two years later they had their first son, Nathan, which means a “gift from God”. Then along came their daughters, Jordan Nicole and Leah Faith. I could never have found a better husband for Leigh or a better father for Nathan, Jordan and Faith.

Fast forward to the beginnings of ABOUNDING GRACE SCHOOL FOR BOYS in Guilford County, NC and then to Caswell County, NC and then to Davidson County, NC. The school was established by Stan with the help of several churches. I believe that I read in someone’s postings that others were involved with the school. That is false. I really was not all for the school at the beginning – I felt that it was a massive undertaking, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. It was something that I would never have attempted to do. However, I have watched over the past ten years as God provided for the school and watched over the approximately one hundred boys who have been a part of the school. I have met almost all of the boys who have attended the school through the years.

I will be adding to this post over the next few days. I will not respond to any of your comments. That is not my purpose. I will be stating facts not fiction or lies. This is not the time or place for those of you who have anger at Stan over personal or family matters to be involved. I am speaking to two people in particular and I think that you know who you are.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mitchell’s Mom,

I am sure you are speaking to me. I have every right to say what I want and when I want. The Mitchell’s did abuse my son and others. It will be proven in the courts. I have no doubts what so ever. I am not on here to argue with you or anyone else for that matter. I am on here to protect children.

Thanks, for the info. about Gilford county. Now that can be researched as well. There have been others involved with the school. That has been proven already. Just one to mention: The man that the Mitchell’s employed that was a convicted child molester. Are you forgetting about him? Yes! There are other adults that were involved with the school.

You may know a lot because you are Leigh's mother. I can guarantee you I know a lot too. As I have stated repeatedly! I will do whatever it takes to make sure justice prevails. Go to government officials, media, courts, so forth. If, I have to spend every dime I have.

You are a mother>>>would you ever allow anyone to abuse your child and get away with it? Would you ever allow them to continue to abuse children?

I have stated facts not fiction or lies>>>> When this is all out in the open in the courts>>>I will let the whole world know just how inhumane The Mitchell’s treated our children. All their dirty secrets will be out in the open.

Anger does not begin to describe how I feel about the Mitchell’s.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

If it is me you are speaking to, I'm listening. I am very interested in your story or at least your version of this story.

The way I see it is, Stan always had his mother to take care of things when he got in trouble before, I am not surprised to see you take her place now that she can no longer do so.

I've already seen posts (not yours) that can be disproved, easily, so please go forth.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Everyone,

We all know that Mitchell's mom or I should say Leigh's mom will not respond to any post.

First of all, how does she know what took place as far as the procedures are concerned, if she in fact did not live there 24/7?

Second, I am very puzzled by this comment that she made:
"An interesting fact at this point, is that many of the accusations in the charges against Leigh and Stan ALREADY EXISTED IN THESE BOYS (ACCORDING TO THE VERY DOCUMENTS THAT THE PARENTS SUBMITTED TO THE SCHOOL)".

This makes no sense to me. Nowhere in the documents I provided to the school does any of the child abuse that my son received at the hands of The Mitchell’s already exist. This is a lie!

I find this just as appalling as the abuse itself.
Or you people (Mitchell's) crazy or what? Do you honestly think that you are going to get away with this?

Everyone,

Do not be fooled by these hypocrites any longer!
Again, the truth will be revealed in court.

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

I know this is going to be hard for me to do.Because all of you against stan and leigh are going to slay everything i type.I did live at the boys home 24/7 and im not a boy.I have three beautiful children two who would not be here today if not for GOD, stan and leigh.I got pregnant at 17.I called leigh ive known her all my life she would know what to do.make a long story short she took me to a christian clinic in burlington and i have a beautiful almost 10 year old straight A student.look at what i would have given up.I married the man who got me pregnant when she was 4 months old.he was very mean then he started messing with drugs and then took me down with him.stan and leigh helped me i let them take the baby until i got my head on straight.they were great ,i straightened up and was able to take care of her and be the mama GOD called me to be. so me and my little one were back together again. then my husband and i started going to church and he quit the drugs so i!thought and we got saved.I got pregnant with my second she is 7.stan and leigh helped me again ,my abusive husband would have killed me if not for stan saving me that night.They took me in and fed me and loved me.I was scared so i stayed there with them.I divorced after that and moved away.I moved to a little town near the beach.And 2 years later i met a man like my favorite man in the world,which by the way is stan.we are happily married and he adopted the 2 girls and we have a 2 year old boy together.what im telling you here is i love stan and i dreamed of having someone love me the way he loves my sister.my 2 girls go and stay with them in the summer for a week. i love and trust them they did not do the things they are being accused of and it breaks my heart to read the things people are typing.remember i did live with them and i know in my heart and being there that the charges are false.Im only stating facts here.and one more thing i ask please dont call my mama names it hurts me.I wouldnt call your mama names it hurts.lets all try to be grown adults no NAME CALLING PLEASE.

[phillip_boseman (phillip_boseman)]

Truth seeker Fact seeker or who ever has anything to say about anyone testifing for the Mitchells please try something different than the following.
1. They didnt abuse a child while you were there.
2. You were lucky (lets think I was a child there if there was abuse going on what would make you think they would quit over me)
3. You won't there 24/7 (neither were yall) ( but I was)
4. My son is telling the truth (please think why you sent them away)and it wont cause they were good little boys neither,how good are they now??

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

I understand your love and devotion to your family. I understand how you believe in your sister/daughter.

I ask you to understand my love and devotion to my child. I ask you to understand how I believe my in son.

I pray that you can accept what you hear in the courtroom about the treatment these boys lived through. I pray that all the children affected, including Nathan, Jordan, and Faith will survive this.

I totally believe that this home started for a good reason. I also hope that their are some lives out there, that found the peace and love God has to offer and have lead a fruitful lives.

But somewhere something went wrong. Whether the 24/7 care got to be to much to handle. Whether there was just a few that were harder to control...Whether the churches just didn't seem to be paying enough...something somewhere went wrong.

But aside from all of that: All I want is for no other child ever to feel the abuse that SOME of these boys that lived in that home have felt.

[snappy (snappy)]

Mitchell's sister, I know exactly who you are, I remember you from Friendship, and I also remember the hardships you endured during that time. I know your sis prayed for you alot during that time, as well as the church. I'm glad to hear you're doing well, God bless.

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

Snappy, thank you for your response and blessings
God bless you, too.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mitchell's sister or I should say Leigh's sister,

First of all some of you need to read my post better. I am sick of my words being twisted. I was talking to the Mitchell's (Stan &amp; Leigh) Are you a Mitchell? Below are the comments I posted:

Or you people (Mitchell's) crazy or what?
Do not be fooled by these hypocrites any longer!

In my opinion, any one that abuses children has to be crazy. Furthermore, any one who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion is a hypocrite. Stan and Leigh Mitchell have earned this all on their own. I was talking to Stan and Leigh, not your mother or you.

As for refraining from name calling, you are absolutely right. I am trying very hard to be a civil as I can under the circumstances. So I ask you this: If, your child were abused, just how civil would you be?


Phillip Boseman,

We will see you in court.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Parents or anyone who would like to stop the abuse of our children, please check out the following:


A friend of mine gave me this website http://isaccorp.org/index.html as a source. From that site I understand that On April 20, 2005, Representative George Miller of California introduced H.R. 1738, a bill that proposes to regulate the teen treatment industry.

I am in the process of writing to all the officials in each and every state from that site.

There is also a petition on there that you can sign.

I am finding out some very interesting things from this site. I believe that it can help us.

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

My child was abused on a school bus last year by a 13 year old boy. She was 9 at the time this occured.It was very hard to remain civil. However, we did just that and waited for the system to handle the problem. The young man admitted in court that he touched her inappropriately - he is not allowed on the school bus and is now in counseling, which is exactly what we requested. So, be careful how you ask other people how they would feel because you do not know what other people have experienced! I hope that the court system will not fail in this case either. Justice will be served and the truth will be presented. This has not been the case in many of these postings.

I am Leigh's sister and I am Stan's SISTER-in-law. I have known Stan since I was six years old. He is the kindest, gentlest, most patient and caring man that I have ever known. And that is the TRUTH!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Mitchells sister,

I want to ask you something - Do you have a brother?

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

As a matter of fact I do.This gets complicated brace yourself.My mamas brother died in 1988 in a car accident.He and his son were going fishing A man fell asleep at the wheel.His son was in full body cast for six weeks.I didnt leave his side.My mom,dad,grandma and grandpa won custody after a very long battle with his mom who left him when he was 14 months old to begin with.she decided she wanted him back so we went to court and fault for custody.we won.He lived with us and we visited our grandparents.so you could say by blood we are 1st cousins,by heart brother and sister!!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Then he would be considered Nathan's Uncle ?

Just one more question, if you will allow...Was your ex-husband ever considered Nathan's Uncle and was he living in the boys home with you?

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

I dont mind answering questions ive always been a very honest person.probably because all my ex did was lie.my ex was considered nathans uncle.No he didnt live at the boys home I was there to be protected from him he hit on me so they took me there to keep me safe.as far as my brother no nathan ,jordan,and faith dont consider him there uncle,because leigh and stan were married when the accident happened in fact leigh was pregnant with nathan.In fact my children and leighs children ask why my children call him uncle but they dont.thats why i said earlier it gets complicated brace yourself. I always have to explain why hes my brother but not leighs.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Thank you.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mitchell's sister,

I asked you: If, your child were abused, just how civil would you be? I asked this for a reason, you totally missed my point.

You are right, the truth will be revealed in court.

I have stated the facts on here and nothing but the facts. Everything I have said is the truth.

As for your comment: "He is the kindest, gentlest, most patient and caring man that I have ever known. And that is the TRUTH!"

This is a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stan and Leigh are the total opposite of what you have stated.

Stan and Leigh Mitchell are child abusers. You need to face the facts and brace yourself. There will be no plea-bargaining! I will demand the harshest punishment allowed by law. I will fight for harsher laws!

This is just the beginning! Stan and Leigh Mitchell abused the wrong child.


Stan and Leigh,

I know you are watching this site and in fact are on here. You will not get away with abusing my child. So do not even bother instructing your attorney to ask us if we will drop the case and that you will move and close the school. Yes! Everyone, this is what The Mitchell’s requested from their attorney. Feeling a little guilty are you? You have been caught!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Face your punishment and take it like a man Stan! Oh! I forgot a real man would not abuse children. Leigh, I trusted you to love my son. You betrayed that trust and everything that trust stands for. Both of you your day will come in a court of law and when we face God. You will be punished for you crimes.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justice Seeker

I have looked at the site you mentioned above. I found it very interesting. Thank you for sharing it with us all. Please let me know if you will need any assistance with writing those letters.

Mitchells sister,

I've been thinking about this for a little bit... I am having a hard time understanding why your brother has not been accepted in Leigh's life. If he is your brother and your mother raised him to be your brother, and if Leigh is your sister, this man is her brother. Period.

I don't care who was married at what time or what pregnancy had been going on....God's will allowed that boy to survive the wreck, and God's will was that your mother was to raise this boy to be her son, and Leigh should have had enough respect for her mother to accept the boy as her brother. Turning your back on a child that had such a tragic life is unchristian behavior. Also is in direct conflict of what they supposed stood for...Helping boys.

Geeze - No wonder the kids are so confused, and YOU should never have to explain the situation, and my dear, you wouldn't if it weren't for leigh's attitude towards the relationship. She is the soul reason you have to explain it. Family is family no matter what. But I have noticed the mitchells like to pick and choose who they want to be related to. Remember Mouse? To disown a sister over the mother's will is not christian behavior at all. Yes, I recall him telling his side of that story...as he put it, she was being greedy over the sale of the mothers home and distribution of the estate.

I completely understand your loyalty to a man that saved and protected you. You have been blessed and I wish you no harm. I have no problems or quarrels with you. I only hope that you will be able to handle the ugly truth in the courtroom. Please, please, please be prepared!!!

My son has nothing to gain by speaking of what he knows. All he wants is to stop this from ever happening again and to put this whole ordeal behind him and move on with his life once and for all. You do not know what damage that man has brought to my son, yet! In time, when the entire truth comes out, I think you will see your protector in a different light. He is not always such a loving man, and I've never seen the generous side that you mention. EVER!!!

You mentioned that your daughter had been abused (touched in an inappropriate way) and you took the boy to court and charged him with his crime. You say you remained civil and allowed him to plead guilty and receive counseling. This is a good thing you did, as hopefully he is young and will learn how wrong it was and be a better person some day. I hope you also seek help for your daughter.

Our case is a little different, we know what happened, and the simple fact that they keep saying they didn't do anything wrong will not allow me the opportunity to be civil at this time. Had they admitted to the fact that their punishment crossed the line, maybe just maybe, I wouldn't be so angry and I could be more forgiving.

Had they not extorted several thousands of dollars from several churches while living expense free, I wouldn't be angry. After all, they also charged the parents for the children to stay there. The mitchells were given food, shelter and everything was supplied for them, there was no reason for all the church support.

I also know that they can afford legal counsel and do not need to go getting more churches to supply money for their legal fees, but they are. This angers me, a lot. It is extortion, and I wouldn't doubt that the churches will be requesting to be paid back.

One thing that is really weighing heavy on my heart is that while stan protected you, why did he never protect his own abused son? Or if his son was never abused, why on earth would he say this happened?

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

This will be my last post. As I stated at the beginning, I knew you would take everything that I would say and twist it to fit your needs. You all continue to post things as truth and you have no idea what you are talking about. Stan has not asked his attorney to make any sort of deal concerning these felony charges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!As for Stan and Leigh's acceptance of my "brother" - I was trying to explain that my relationship with my cousin was more like brother/sister because we were living in the same house and we were only 10 1/2 and 9 years old - Leigh was 20 years old, married and living in her own house!!!!!!!!!!Stan and Leigh did not turn their back on him - He was injured in the wreck and was in a full body cast for six weeks - we brought him home - Stan had to help us with him - he had to be turned in different postions every two hours to prevent body sores and Stan was continuously helping us. One time, Stan even carried him outside, placed him on a mattress and we had a picnic. Without Stan's help, we would never have been able to manage to keep him at home while he was healing.

Stan and Leigh did not live expense free - you have no earthly idea what you are talking about -all of you have been posting untruths as facts -they had to provide food and living expenses (do you have power bills, insurance, phones, etc?) for themselves and all of your sons - do you have any idea how much that cost???? Twelve to fourteen boys eat a lot of food!!!! Churches provided for YOUR SONS - the money that parents paid was a drop in the bucket. Do you know how much most in-home facilites and schools would charge for the service that was provided to you?
As for attorney fees, I know where the money is coming from - it is not from churches and Stan and Leigh have NO money - they are working to make money to survive - ARE YOU HAPPY????? But their work now is much easier then when they were working 24/7 to take care of YOUR CHILDREN because you all could not control and raise your own. MAY GOD BLESS AND FORGIVE ALL OF YOU, ESPECIALLY YOUR SONS.