Abounding Grace School For Boys Part IV

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Let me make myself a little clearer for you, because once again you missed several points of interest...

You and your mother accepted that boy and raised him as family - your brother and your mothers son. Leigh and Stan did not recognize that relationship. This is disrespectful to your mother and you...afterall it leaves you to have to explain the relationship over and over as you stated.

Yes, they have done things for you and your mother, but sweetie, in the real world, that is what family does. They take care of their own. As it seems stan was the only man around to move that child, I would expect him to do so. And as for protecting you, that is exactly what they should have done.

Something I noticed, while all stan and leigh's support has said, why didn't they mothers take care of the child---YOU YOURSELF DID NOT TURN TO YOUR MOTHER IN YOUR TIME OF TROUBLE. YOU TURNED TO YOUR SISTER. WHY?

I would never turn my back on my family members, whether they be my blood, my step, or my adopted family members, whether it is my child or my child's friend that needs something, they all know they can call on my at anytime.

For you to think this is an act that is above and beyond is absurd.

As for the support and money matters, if his own wife did not know of SEVERAL bank accounts he has, do you really think you would know?

Thank you for your time, and the information that you provided.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mitchell’s sister,

You are so wrong! How do you even know what I do with my son or not? You are going on here say. I have raised my child very well. Thank you! A far as this is concerned God knows my son is telling the truth so there is not anything for God to forgive him for.

I tell you what the more the Mitchell's continue to deny what they have done to our children, the angrier I become. The angrier I become the more suffering I want for them (Let me make myself clear here, I hope they rot in a jail cell). I will not be able to ever forgive them as long as they live in denial.

You need to keep your mouth off my son. Period!

See you in court.

[true2god (true2god)]

mitchell sister
I as one of the boys mothers had control over my child.I put him in the school because he saw his father kill himself and he was very scared from it .and for leigh and stan to stand and hold that over his head was wrong he also was very depressed by this and your family stood and made fun of him over that.
I knew deep in my heart that GOD was the only one that could help him and GOD is the one that helped him not stan or leigh cause all they did was add to the hurt he was feeling .
So before you go saying us mothers couldn't control our children you need to have your facts right.

I tried to do what I felt was right in my heart to get my son help. I prayed for GOD to help me and him.it took me 3 years to put my son in a home and then for your so called perfect brother in law and sister to stand and make fun of him was wrong and then after he died for stan to stand and want to use my son as example for others is even more wrong.

I am at peace with myself and the death of my child.I know in my heart it was his time to die and that he is in a better place now and away from all the hurt and pain he suffered in the 18 years and 8 months of his life.

it is wrong for stan to stand and say because I pulled my son out of the home and he felt that I was going agaist GOD'S will and my son told me things that happened that GOD was taking him away from me.I am not the only parent that pulled their child out what about the ones that just showed up and took their sons home. did stan stand in their face and tell them that in 6 months that their child would be dead or in jail.I've been told he did but stan didn't know that would happen and to prove that it was his time the other boys are still living.
I still pray for stan and leigh and the children .
I know I sever a loving GOD and my loving GOD is what has got me through the past year of my childrens death and the hurt that stan and leigh has put upon my family,anger ,bitterness and loneless of not having my children to hold on to and love.
and by the way before Timothy died GOD had showed me it was time for him to come home that's why he came home when he did and I am so thankful that I had the last 6 months with him and to share with a loving GOD that we both served and I still am serving GOD.

So before you can judging someone and calling them a bad mother I think you should read what the BIBLES says about judging because you will be judge in the same way you have judged us.I also want you and the mitchell's to know I forgive them for the wrong and hurt they did to my son.And I am not judging them I know this stuff for fact because stan and leigh did these things infornt of me.

[true2god (true2god)]

I also feel in my heart that they should be asking us for forgiveness but I don't think that will happen.

stan and leigh know what they have done just as good as us parents know.and the BIBLE says that your sins will surely fine you out,so I guess theirs is starting to come out.

Besides how would you feel if it was your child instead of mine that went through what he went through in a short life.

Iwouldn't want no parent to go through what I have for the past year,but I feel in my heart and know by GODS word my faith will see me tile the end.

[mitchells_mom (mitchells_mom)]

Clarification: I have not read the documents, but have been told bits and pieces of what is contained in some of them. Stan has always kept these documents private. However, due to the court proceedings, these school documents will be submitted as evidence and, as such, will become public knowledge.

At this time, I would like to add that parents visited the school once a month on a Sunday. Once in a while, the parents visited for a whole weekend. The boys were allowed to go shopping, etc. alone with their parents away from the school. There was ample opportunity for the boys to share any problems that they might have been having at the school with their parents. Also, the boys that are involved in these charges were at the home a lot longer than the required eighteen months. They CHOSE to stay at the home!!!
I find this extremely odd!!!!

I was in the court room on the day that the first misdemeanor child abuse charge against Stan was dismissed. Everyone knows about the hearing that day so I will not elaborate on it. However, I would like to share the scene on the steps of the courthouse after the dismissal. Prior to this court appearance, none of the boys were allowed to have any contact with Stan. After the dismissal, Stan’s lawyer asked all of us to gather on the steps so that he could explain what had just happened. We all stood on the steps as the lawyer and Stan (with Leigh) stood at the top. We all asked questions so that we would have a better understanding of the proceedings. Several of the boys were in attendance that day.
At the end of the discussions, the boys approached Stan’s lawyer and asked if they were allowed to speak with Stan. The lawyer informed them that since those charges had been dismissed that they were free to do anything that they chose to do. Immediately, they surrounded Stan, hugging and crying, telling him how much they had missed him and wanting to know when they would be allowed to return to the school.

Leigh started receiving phone calls and when she would answer, the caller would hang up. Finally, the caller was brave enough to speak. He asked her if she knew who he was – she guessed a couple of people and then she realized that it was Rex. He asked her please to not let his mother know that he had called her. He said that he was able to talk because his mother had gone to her lawyer to file separation papers from her husband. He told Leigh that he was sorry for everything that he had said about them. Leigh told him that she and Stan had forgiven him a long time ago and they still loved him and were praying for him. She suggested that he call Brother Mitchell. After he hung up with Leigh, he called Stan. In this conversation, Stan asked Rex why he had told all of these lies. His answer was that he wanted to stay at home. He also said that everything Stan had told him that he would turn into if he left God had happened to him. Stan also told him that he had forgiven him and was praying for him.

All of these things will be brought out in court. When these boys are asked to testify, they must remember that they will be under oath and can be prosecuted for not telling the truth.

I will be adding to this post over the next few days. I will not respond to any of your comments. That is not my purpose. I will be stating facts not fiction or lies.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

true2God
I want to know just one thing, when your son died why was it that you called Stan and left a lot of messages for him to call you back and then when he did you asked him to pray for you? If you knew these things that had happened then why would you want the man who so called abused your son to pray for you and him?

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

true2GOD,
I was not talking to you.Only the ones twisting what I say.Stan had a burden for your son probably more then others.Stan had a good friend who killed himself.I met your son very nice young man.His face showed alot of pain.Im sorry for your loss.Ive watched my grandmother over the years since she lost her son.And one day I asked her how do you do it? She simply replied GOD.I pray alot.I am so glad you are standing by GOD.You are a very strong woman,most people would turn there back on GOD after what you went through.I will be praying for you from now on.I have a burden for ones who have lost.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

MITCHELLS MOM,

OK YOU PEOPLE ARE REALLY STARTING TO PUSH MY BUTTONS NOW.

I AM BRIDGET WINGERT, STEVEN REX BLEVINS MOTHER. REX DID NOT CALL THE MITCHELLS AND SAY THESE THINGS. I HAVE NOT BEEN TO AN ATTORNEY FOR SEPARATION PAPERS FROM MY HUSBAND.

YOU PEOPLE DISGUST ME AND REALLY NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

NEVER WAS I ALLOWED TO LEAVE WITH MY SON TO GO SHOPPING UNTIL HE FINISHED HIS 18 MONTHS. REX WAS SCARED HALF TO DEATH. I ALLOWED REX TO STAY IN THE SCHOOL AFTER HIS 18 MONTHS BECAUSE I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING WRONG. FURTHERMORE, I DID NOT WANT HIS SCHOOL YEAR INTERUPTED. IF, I HAD TAKEN HIM HOME AT THE END OF 18 MONTHS, HE WOULD HAVE COME HOME IN FEBRUARY. REX DID NOT CHOOSE TO STAY AT THE HOME, I CHOSE FOR HIM TO STAY THERE.

WE PARENTS DID NOT FIND OUT ABOUT THE COURT APPEARANCE FOR THE MISDEMEANOR UNTIL AFTER IT WAS OVER. WE FOUND OUT FROM THE MEDIA. FURTHERMORE, THE DA HAD NO INTENTION OF TRYING A MISDEMEANOR. YOU SEE YOU CANNOT BE CHARGED FOR THE SAME CRIME AS A MISDEMEANOR AND A FELONY. THE DA HAD EVERY INTENTION OF TRYING IT AS A FELONY. FELONY HOLDS A HARSHER PUNSIHMENT. MISDEMEANOR IS A SLAP ON THE WRIST AND NOTHING MORE.

I REALLY AM STARTING TO BELEIVE THAT THE MITCHELLS ARE AS CRAZY AS I EXPECTED. YOU CANNOT JUST ACCUSE SOMEONE OF SOMETHING AND THEM BE ARRESTED. IF, THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE THE MITCHELL'S WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION.

FUTHERMORE, REX HAS GRADUATED SCHOOL AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO COLLEGE. THANKS TO ME, NOT THE MITCHELL'S. THIS COMMENT IS NOT TRUE EITHER: His answer was that he wanted to stay at home. He also said that everything Stan had told him that he would turn into if he left God had happened to him. Stan also told him that he had forgiven him and was praying for him.

I HAD ALREADY TOLD REX THAT I WANTED HIM TO STAY HOME AND PUT HIM IN A PRIVATE SCHOOL HERE BEFORE HE TOLD ME ANYTHING THAT THE MITCHELL'S HAD DONE.

WHEN I APPROACHED REX AND TOLD HIM THAT I FELT THAT I NEEDED TO REPORT THE ABUSE TO SOCIAL SERVICES. HIS COMMENT TO ME WAS: MOM I DO NOT WANT THE MITCHELL’S TO HURT OR GO TO JAIL. I JUST DO NOT EVER WANT THEM TO DO THIS TO CHILDREN AGAIN. IT WAS NOT UNTIL AFTER STAN ACCUSED REX OF LYING THAT HE WANTED JAIL TIME. YOU SEE! REX DOES NOT LIKE BEING CALLED A LIAR.

YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE TESTIFYING, THE MITCHELLS’ WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LIE EITHER.

STAN, WHAT HAPPEN TO THE BOAT PADDLE?

STAN AND LEIGH,

I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN THE LAW TO ALLOW ME TO BE IN A ROOM ALONE WITH YOU BOTH. AND, FOR YOU TO DO ME THE WAY YOU HAVE MY SON AND THE OTHER BOYS.

THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL FIND OUT AND I WILL MAKE SURE OF IT. THERE ARE ALOT OF WITNESSES THAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF YET. INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD NEVER THINK WOULD TESTIFY AGAINST YOU.

FOR THE RECORD, I WAS NEVER HIDING ON THIS BOARD. I LIKED THE FACT THAT IT ****ED YOU OFF BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT FIGURE OUT WHO I WAS.

YOU HAVE REALLY PUSHED ME PAST THE POINT NOW. I WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO MAKE SURE YOU ROT IN THAT JAIL CELL.

NO MATTER WHAT MY SON HAS EVER DONE, HE NEVER DESERVED THE ABUSE THAT HE RECEIVED FROM YOU. NONE OF THE BOYS DESERVED THIS ABUSE.

DO I SOUND ANGRY? YES! AS I HAVE SAID ANGRY IS NOT THE WORD FOR IT. I AM SICK OF YOUR LIES ON HERE ABOUT MY CHILD. I AM SICK OF YOU REFERRING TO HIM AS A TROUBLED BOY. YOU KNOW WHAT IT JUST GOES TO SHOW WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE YOU REALLY ARE TO KNOCK SOMEONE LIKE THAT. IF, I HAD EVER KNOWN ANY OF THIS I WOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT MY SON WITH YOU.

FOR THE RECORD, I VISITED MY SON EACH AND EVERY MONTH THAT I WAS ALLOWED. THERE WAS ONLY 2 TIMES THAT I DID NOT VISIT. THE REASON WAS MY BROTHER-N-LAW WAS GETTING MARRIED AND WE WERE IN THE WEDDING. THE NEXT REASON WAS I OWN A BUSINESS AND IT WAS FLOWERTOWN FESTIVAL WEEKEND. I ASKED STAN TO LET ME VISIT ON ANOTHER WEEKEND SO THAT I WOULD NOT MISS THESE VISITS. HE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTLE RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL BE BROUGHT OUT IN COURT.

I WILL NOT RESPOND TO YOUR LIES AGAIN. WE WILL SEE YOU IN COURT.

THERE ARE SO MANY FACTS THAT I COULD SAY RIGHT NOW.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

MITCHELLS SISTER,

YOU ARE THE ONES THAT KEEP TWISTING FACTS. YOU ARE GOING ON WHAT STAN AND LEIGH HAVE TOLD YOU.

[mitchells_sister (mitchells_sister)]

justice seeker,
We knew who you were.In fact we know alot more then you think!We know who fact seeker is.You see when I moved away I had to find info on my ex to get him for stuff that he had done while we were married.I had no money so i did it myself.I did such a wonderful job that a detective introduced me to a P.I. and I do work on the side for him.So now he's helping me out!!!Oh yeah by the way hello MOUSE!! WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE TOO.HOW DISAPPOINTED YOUR MAMA WOULD BE!!!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mitchells sister,

I really do not care that you know who I am. That is not important to me at all.

I do not care who you work for or what you know.

I know a lot about you all as well.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mouse is only speaking the truth, so how could a mother be disappoitned with that?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

mitchells sis,

It doesn't matter to me that you know who I am or not either. But I can guarantee, the rest of the world will be interested in who I am and the secrets I hold and that is what matters to me.

Yes, It was asked where the fathers of these boys were during this time....I find it amusing that stan and leigh would even post such a statement considering what secrets lie within that man's past.


(Message edited by fact seeker on July 02, 2005)

[family_friend (family_friend)]

fact seeker

i wish you would stop thinking and saying that everbody is stan & leigh mitchell. as ive already said my name is david arnold and i am a member at believers baptist church. im not hiding behind a name, a church or anybody. why is it so hard for you to believe that people are behind stan mitchell and his family which includes there children as well, i can tell you these children are very happy every time i see them. sometimes i cant even get out of my car without nathan shaking my hand and asking me how im doing. are you just jealous that you havnt been as sucessful in raising your children? yea your probly right those kids have probly been scared into submission. yea your probly right no one has ever been tried for a felony that they were not guilty of, i mean what DA in the right mind would go to trial not having significant evidence unless he's got a couple LOUD MOUTH JEZEBELS yappin in his ear that wont shut up because there boys were disobedient and they got spanked for it. and rex already had a week stomach (as stated in reports) that he threw up, not because he was forced to eat to much, just sometimes it happen. and how sick a person are you to believe that a man would make a boy eat his own vaumit how ridiculus. YEA YOUR PROBLY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!.YOUR AS STUPID AS YOUR ACCUSATIONS........ but anyways i do love you and i hope and pray that somehow all people can find forgiveness in there hearts on all sides. because as ive been taught the person that will not forgive thats the person thats in prison...

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Your entire post is very comical, and it really shows how much you do NOT know.

The way I understand it, the vomiting and forced eating did happen and lets just leave it at that for now. I do not wish to reveal anything more at this time.

You will learn the awful truth along with all the rest...In the courtroom.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT..... FOR ONCE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!

[true2god (true2god)]

family friend

I will tell you that Timothy had forgave stan and Leigh for what they had done cause he had been taught about forgiven others like the Bible teaches that if we can't forgive how is GOD suppose to forgive us.

The reason I called Stan on my way to winston the night Timothy died was because my husband asked me to and I also forgave Stan and Leigh for what they had done .My husband did not know what had happened to Timothy while in the home untile it came out in the papers.See our daugther lived in the area and called and told us about it and sent us the paper about it.I don't think that if he would have know that he would have been as forgiven as me and Timothy cause to him you don't do something to his kids and not anwser for it.my children were not his but he raised them from a young age so they were his to us.

Yes I did call Stan sereval times when Timothy died and that was to ask if the boys could come and sing .I only have talked to him one time since Timothy's death and that was when I called and let him know that sereval people got saved at Timothy's service.And he was the one that said something about praying for me and I told him I needed it .

I don't think you relize what I have been through in the past year and a half.see I didn't just lose my children my mother has had sereval strokes we just had got her back on her feet when Timothy died.And now we found out my dad has cancer.

See it's not a day that don't go by that I am not helping someone or putting someone before myself and I have always been that way.

I will tell you this I LOVE GOD WITH ALL MY HEART and it's not a day that goes by that I don't let him know that I love him.

Do something for me ask Stan about the letter he got from my sister about speaking things over other peoples life.The letter she had wrote him came from GOD cause she had a hard time handling what stan had said and GOD put it on her heart to write him that letter.

Like I have said before I forgive them and will keep praying for them so don't go judging me and my relationship with GOD.Cause I am a GOD fearing person and I love GOD and live for him.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

true2god

i respect your position and your courage and all youve gone through. we never will understand why its seams like some people have it worse than others and its not allways that a person is out of the will of god. i think br. stan was just trying to warn a young man to make sure he was following what god wonted him to do. and im not saying that because timmy died at such a young age that he was out of the will of god. only god knows..... it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living god. we must all strive to be obedient to the lord and be sensitive to his callings. no one knows what may lie ahead. god bless you and i hope god will continue to give you grace through these trials. just remember weeping may endure for a night but JOY COMETH IN THE MORNING.

[truth_revealer (truth_revealer)]

David Arnold I want you to look Stan and Leigh in the eyes and ask them yourself whether they had ever made a boy eat throw-up. Look in their eyes, and tell us what they say!

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

family friend,

You have it all wrong, I never said I don't have anything to say, I just said I was waiting for the court room. I will not give anymore details away so that you and yours can build your defense.

That is exactly why I called your post comical...when we get to court-you will understand. PERIOD...Beleive me it isn't cause I don't have anything to say, as I have asked for the Lord to put a watch on my mouth, and he has done so...do you not know what that is??

I will not give you any more info to work in your behalf. I am able to keep certain key points of interest from being said until it is time...So there you go. In no way do I have nothing to say. Believe it!!!!!!!!!

Have yourself a wonderful day while you are living in complete denial. Have you even thought about how you will react when this is all proven as fact? How will you feel when you find out that you were so very wrong about what happened to these children? Maybe you should examine that. Do some real soul searching and a lot of praying because you will find these charges to be true.

There are 3 children that will need help and assistance once this happens. I truly hope that in all this denial that is going on, someone is making plans to help those 3 children.

Has anyone ever thought that maybe these kids were all so happy to see everyone is because they knew that the madness would stop while "company" was there? HELLO!

[mitchells_mom (mitchells_mom)]

Additional Information on Rex’s phone call to Leigh: He also spoke to Reuben.

Description of some of the problems that these boys had are as follows:

1)Child's problem very angry, argues about everything, can not follow rules, thinks he knows everything, doesn't care about school, has had some close calls with the law - headed down the wrong path.

How can school help- I hope to teach him about God. So that he can make better choices and decisions for himself. Instead of listing to bad influences and thinking that it is cool to do the things he has. I want him to respect me and my rules and follow them. To be disciplined and learn responsibility so that he will be a better person.

2)Child's problem he cannot get along with anyone, stays angry a lot, goes into rages, abusive and destructive, very rebellious, thinks he should be in charge or control of everything, has no respect for authority or anybody, wants to live like the unsaved world, money, clothes, and all material things are his god, is running from God's calling on his life

How can school help- By getting his focus off the world and back on God 100% where he will serve for the Lord and to teach him to cope with life as well as people. He laughs at corporal punishment and putting him into a room by himself works best according to his christian school principal.

3)Child's problem he molested his ten year old step sister for about a year and intimidated her into secrecy. He loves to lie. He also turned his parents over into the DSS.

I will be adding to this post over the next few days. I will not respond to any of your comments. That is not my purpose. I will be stating facts not fiction or lies.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

putting him into a room by himself works best according to his christian school principal.


Was this school principal allowed to see the confinement rooms within the mitchell home and was he made aware of the length of time they were put in there? Has anyone seen the rooms? I believe a legal jail cell is at least 4 times bigger (if not more) than the rooms that were used at the mitchell home.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mitchell’s mom,

So are you trying to say that these boys deserved the abuse by the Mitchell's?

What the boys have done does not constitute being abused by the Mitchell's. The Mitchell's took the law into their hands and they had no right.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

No justice seeker I think Mitchells mom is showing how untrustworthy these boys are and that they are probably lieing especially since one of the boys themselves called and told the Mitchells that he was sorry for telling so many lies on them. I think you need to face the fact that your little boys are capable of lying.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

You have been told repeatedly to mind your own business. This had nothing to do with you at all. Just because you are a member of that church doesn't make you qualified to open your mouth.

They are talking about my son calling. They are lying about what was said.

My son is very trustworthy! Rex has not lied about the abuse.

The Mitchell's are the liars and the child abusers.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

You do not know anything about our sons. All you know is what the Mitchell's have told you.

I am not going to keep telling you to shut up! You are putting yourself in the middle of a big scandal. One that does not involve you at all.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justice seeker,

Maybe it does involve family friend, he seems to know so much, read the reports, and so forth. He says his connection is complicated, well...maybe he does stand to lose a lot and maybe he is more involved than we thought.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

YOUR RIGHT I AM INVOLVED BECAUSE I LOVE THE MITCHELLS AND WILLING TO FIGHT FOR THEM THE BEST I CAN. IM WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A CHARACTER WITNESS. THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT THESE DAYS. NOT THAT IVE ACTUALLY BEEN ASK TO TESTIFY BUT IM JUST SPEAKING UP FOR THEM. YOU TWO JEZEBELS NEED TO GET A GRIP!!!!!!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

FACT SEEKER,

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE BUTTON.


FAMILY FRIEND,

JEZEBEL? HA!HA!HA!

YOU NEED TO TAKE A LONG LOOK IN THE MIRROR BEFORE YOU JUDGE SOMEONE THAT YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW AT ALL. REMEMBER GOD IS WATCHING YOU TOO.

DO WHAT YOU WILL>> JUST REMEMBER YOU WILL FIND OUT VERY SOON JUST HOW SURROUNDED YOU ARE BY A PIT OF LIES AND DECEIT.

I DO NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE>>JUST REFRAIN FROM TALKING ABOUT MY SON OR I ANY LONGER.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justice seeker,
:-)

Family Friend,

You really need to do some praying!!!! You do not know me personally, so do not call me anymore names. I haven't called you names, I've simply said you know nothing. You don't know Justice, so keep your mouth off her too.

I will state this one more time so you can be sure to know it: YOU were not there so YOU don't know all! You will be enlighten---soon!! But not here, not now.

Then you will see how wrong you are.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

you guys were not there either all you know is what your BOYS have told you. whats the difference? your hearing one side just like me.

[i_know_the_truth (i_know_the_truth)]

I'm thinking about attending this trial to hear the evidence against Bro. Mitchell. He may not do everything the way I would but I appreciate what he does. I know his policy on visits and I'm sure that you had some time with your son alone before he went home for good. If the abuse was that bad, don't you think he would have told you then? I worked with a home like this and we had a boy, who spent time alone with his mother SEVERAL times. Then one day he made up wild exaggerated allegations and told her. It was funny he never said any of this when they were toegther. Maybe because they were false....this sounds like a similar situation.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

How can you explain that when these boys were questioned, they all had the same story? I can promise you that my son was not in contact with anyone from that home and once we found out what was going on, he told the detective what he knew and guess what? She told him he collaborated all the statements she already had....so HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

I truly would love to know all this insanity was a lie, but I'm sorry, I know enough to know how real this really is. It makes a lot of what I saw & witnessed firsthand make sense.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

FACT SEEKER,

THESE PEOPLE ARE A WASTE OF OUR TIME.
THEY THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL.

I KNOW THE TRUTH AND FAMILY FRIEND,

I NEVER WAS ALLOWED TO BE ALONE WITH MY SON IN THE HOME. I AM NOT GOING TO KEEP TELLING YOU PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY FACTS TO THIS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT. BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT. YOU ARE NOT MY CONCERN.

FOR ANYONE ON HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT MY SON, I AM ASKING YOU TO REFRAIN FROM TALKING ABOUT HIM. HE HAS BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH. HE IS THE VICTIM, NOT THE CRIMINAL.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

justice seeker,

I'm in total agreement.

They can be naive all they want, when the facts come out they will have to live in denial or face the facts! It is as simple as that.

[snappy (snappy)]

When is the court date?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

AUGUST 1ST IS THE NEXT COURT DATE

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

The next court date is 8/1.

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

The reason the stories some of the boys are stating are similar is because that is what DSS wanted them to say. They tried to put words in mys sons mouth and he wouldn't let them. DSS was out to get the Mitchell's from the start.
The day we had to go to court to get our sons each one of us had a DSS representative sit with us. The one that was with us said that something was wrong with these boys. They said "No sir and Yes sir" and carried a BIBLE. Now I don't see anything wrong with that. Maybe if some of you posting on this board should start reading your BIBLE.
How about all the good that has been done at AGSFB. There are a lot of boys that would be in jail or HELL if if were not for the Mitchell's.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

No, there is nothing wrong with saying no sir yes sir.

BUT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE WAY THEY TREATED THESE KIDS.

From my understanding all the detective said was tell me what you know. That didn't lead or sway anyone's words.

Regarding DSS, my son never talked with them, so try again.

[true2god (true2god)]

Heavenly Father by the authority of yor word, you said whatever I bind on earth will be bound in heaven and whatever I loose on earth will be loose in heaven.I bind all this fussing on this site.You just like the boys know what happen.I bind satan .Satan I bind you .You will no longer take our joy,peace,or mines in this matter or no other matter in our lifes.I bind all of your principalities and the powers.I bind all your demons that you have gave assignment agaist us and the boys that went through the abuse.I bind your evil spirits and I bind you in the name of JESUS CHRIST.Satan you will no longer steal our peace,joy our children or our mines.
Satan you are a deceiver and you have been found out.In the name of JESUS I command you to return everything you have stold from us to be returned to us sevenfold.
I loose everything about this matter,and everything you have tooken from us to come back to us sevenfoldaccording to GOD'S word.
Father I ask that you will put a guard on our mouths.I ask that you will guide us ,direct us,and protect us and the boys.
Than you Father,for restoring to us sevenfold everything Satan has tooken from us and our children.We receive it,LordI thank you and praise you for it.In JESUS CHRIST name I pray.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

PHIL,

SOME OF YOU ARE TOTALLY CLUELESS!!! THE TRUTH IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU SLAPPING YOU IN THE FACE AND YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS.

THIS IS NOT THE CASE WITH MY SON EITHER. FURTHERMORE, WHEN HE WAS QUESTIONED I WAS PRESENT AND SO WAS MY ATTORNEY.

AS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER BOYS THAT IS NOT THE CASE EITHER.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT DSS WOULD OR COULD DO ABOUT YOU TELLING THESE LIES ON THEM.

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

Justice Seeker,
First of all I have not been ugly to you will will not stoop that low. You obviously have have a chip on your shoulder.
And second of all you don't know what I know. DSS is who was talking to me in court that day. No one from the DA has talked to me.
And thirdly, whether it was DSS or the DA that was trying to put words in Phillip's mouth, they found out he was not a puppet.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Phil,

That may be what happened, but I have a hard time believing that DSS would put words into their mouths.

Furthermore, what you have stated has not happened with my son or some of the other boys.

For you to say that the stories are similar and that DSS was out to get the Mitchell's in the first place is your opinion only. Support it with facts.

Our boys abuse can be supported with facts. Hard evidence!!!

Ugly! At first I felt for you people because Stan had blinded you as he had me. I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt that you would see the light.

But, when you come on here stating things that did not occur in my son’s situation or the other boys. Yes! I get mad. It sounds exactly like something Stan would do.

I put it this way my son was in that home for 22 months>>>>>>I know a lot!!!

There is no doubt in my mind what so ever that my son was abused and so were other boys.

So from here on out do not make judgment calls based on your opinion.

Furthermore, I am sure that now the DSS worker that you are accusing of this will be called to testify. Plus, I cannot see anyone saying because they are caring a BIBLE and saying yes sir no sir and because of it there is something wrong with them.

Maybe it was because all of them walked around like zombies waiting for Stan to tell them what to say or how to act.

As far as being ugly! I really really try on a daily basis to conduct myself in an adult like manner. This is extremely hard for me when people continuously tell lies and talk about my son. No matter what my son has ever done, he never deserved the abuse. It is hard holding my tongue and not telling the world just how malicious the Mitchell's are. I have to wait until court. It hurts watching your son suffer as a direct result of the abuse he received and the abuse he watched others receive. My anger runs deep and I would love nothing more than to be able to forgive the Mitchell's. But, I cannot until they stop their lying.

This is not about revenge! It is about justice! It is about protecting the innocent children.

So, if I get angry on here>>>you can thank the Mitchell's. They have in stilled this anger in me.

[true2god (true2god)]

to all of stans supporters,stan and Leigh
I have been informed that you all think that stan preached my sons service when he died .
will first of all no he didn't my preacher did his service if you have a problem beliving me you can send me an email address and I can send you a copy of his obituary.Yes I did call stand when he died to bring the boys so they could sing that song thank GOD for the preacher stan did say a few words of his
on that he chose to speak not at mine or nobody
else request.
I would post it on here myself but I can't get it to post.
So Stan if you are going to tell something on me please make surer it is the truth.and futher more please keep Timothy out of your preaching he is dead so let him rest in peace .You didn't know that he would be dead in 6 months no more than I did and I beleive in my heart if GOD would have showed you this he would have showed me to.
Also Timothy did not get back in the world before he died.he had went the day before he died and signed up to go in the Marines after he finished his schooling.He was in church and in a good church one that believes in the whole word of GODand not just some of it.This church he attened and I still go to takes all of GOD'S word at heart and the whole BIBLE not just part as you have been told.

[mitchells_mom (mitchells_mom)]

I am posting on this site because one of Stan’s lawyers wanted me to do so. Facts and truth need to be posted. Not speculation, guesses and out right lies. Before I post any information, I know the facts. I have known the following story for years. Stan came to me and ask for advice in how to handle the following situation.

We all know as we go through life, we make many mistakes. Due to these mistakes, we tend to also make “enemies”. We also know that when we get in “trouble” these “enemies” will be the first ones on the bandwagon to attack us. When Stan was twenty years old ( and remember, at that time, he was not saved) , he made a mistake. One of the posters to this site lived just around the block. Her dad was out of town and Stan heard that she was having a party. There was a lot of drinking going on and Stan ended up back in her room. She became pregnant. When Stan found out about the baby, who was born in February, 1983, he asked her to marry him so that he could help her with the baby. She said NO. It was obvious that she did not want him to have a part in the child’s life. She told Stan that the child belonged to another man. The other man was married and due to blood tests being conducted, his wife found out, his marriage was ruined, and the child was not his. After finding out for sure from the blood tests, Stan asked her again to marry him. She flatly refused and did not want any support, help, etc. from him. Stan did not see her again for a couple of years. Then she called him and wanted to talk. Stan picked her up for lunch. She wanted money. Stan told her no – that she had not wanted his help before in raising the child and he was not going to help now. Then, one night when Stan and Leigh were cleaning a church for me, they ran into her. She was married, the child was about seven, and by all indications, they appeared to be happy. A couple of weeks after this chance meeting, she called Stan and wanted him to sign parental rights over to her husband. At this time, Stan was saved and had been called to preach. He witnessed to her and told her how Jesus had changed his life. He agreed to sign the papers that she needed.

TO BE CONTINUED

[true2god (true2god)]

justice_seeker
I will not be at court 8/1/05.
Iwill be out of town working a camp for handicap children I do this every summer and I will be living 7/31/05 and will be back 8/5/05. please call my cell or email me and let me know what happened or when the next court date will be.

I will be praying and fasting in the mean time about this matter and I will have others doing the same.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justice Seeker,

Yes, I'll be there, with bells on!

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

True 2 God,

I completely understand, I realize what August 1st is. I will be praying for you and your family and I hope all is well with you and your family! I will let you know as soon as I know something.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

Sunday, July 31, 2005
Abounding Grace School's owners to answer charges
Punishment turned into abuse, boys say


By Jessica Guenzel
JOURNAL REPORTER

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LEXINGTON

When he started the Abounding Grace School for Boys in 1995, Stan Mitchell knew little about running a boarding school, but he knew a lot about troubled boys.

After all, he had been one.

With only their religious faith and a strict code of discipline, Mitchell and his wife, Lee, opened the school 10 years ago. They say they wanted to give boys a safe place to learn new ways.

But some of the boys tell a different story: They say the couple subjected them to a level of punishment that crossed the line to physical abuse.

The school stopped enrolling students a year ago after the Davidson County Department of Social Services charged the Mitchells with child abuse and removed all but one of the boys, who was 18 and chose to stay.

They say they are innocent, but they've closed the school for good. On Monday, the Mitchells are scheduled to be arraigned in Davidson County Superior Court on charges of felony child abuse inflicting serious injury.

The parents of their accusers want to make sure they will never again run such a school.

"This is a place I thought they were going to give him love," said Bridgit Wingert, who sent her son, Rex Blevins, to Abounding Grace. "Bottom line is that we don't want the Mitchells to ever be able to take care of children again."

Drawn to troubled youth

Though they have only a limited education - Stan Mitchell has a GED and Lee Mitchell didn't finish high school - they say they felt a calling to educate troubled youth. Stan Mitchell says he wanted them to avoid making some of the mistakes he had made.

His criminal record includes several driving offenses and charges of drug possession and breaking-and-entering. He once spent a year in jail.

"I was a hellion," said Stan Mitchell, 44. "I can't tell you how many times I had been to jail as a teenager. But God saved me and turned me around, and I wanted to save the youth from the mess I had to go through as a kid."

Within a year of the school's opening, nine students were enrolled and the Mitchells built a house in Caswell County and moved there.

The boys followed a highly structured routine that included an enforced period of silence each morning. They were required to go to church and do chores and schoolwork. They ate meals together and worked on a buddy system. Breaking the rules brought swats - or "licks" - with a paddle.

When the school moved from Yanceyville to Lexington in 2000, to be affiliated with Believer's Baptist Church, the Mitchells registered Abounding Grace as a boarding school with the Division of Non-Public Education. The school was free until 2002, when they began charging $400 a month for the 18-month program; church donations also helped pay the school's bills. Most of the boys came to the school at age 14 or 15; none stayed long enough to finish high school there. About 100 have attended Abounding Grace since it started as a home school in Greensboro.

Only a handful - about six of the state's 600 private schools - operate as family-run boarding schools with strict rules such as those at Abounding Grace, said Rod Helder, the division director. The school complied with all the requirements for nonpublic education, but the department has little oversight of how the individual schools are run and offers little protection when accusations of abuse are made, Helder said.

"That's something that goes with the turf when you start a school that deals with at-risk or out-of-control kids like this," he said.

Parents desperate for change

Most of the parents who sent their boys there were desperate for change.

"We knew he needed something, a structured environment where he would have to mind someone else's rules," said Phillip Boseman, whose son, Phillip, attended Abounding Grace. "It was getting rough. He was on probation. I took him there and left him and said 'if you don't ever speak to me again, at least I know I could have saved your life.'"

The Mitchells weren't in the dark about the boys' family relationships and backgrounds, and they knew they were taking a risk with the school. Parents knew that their children would be punished for misbehaving.

A code of conduct made it clear that for each violation of the rules, a boy could get up to five licks with a paddle. Corporal punishment is legal in North Carolina schools, but the law leaves it up to the administrator to decide what is reasonable, Helder said.

Everyone - the boys, their parents and the Mitchells - was required to sign off on the rules.

But how far did the school go in enforcing the rules? Documents from Caswell and Davidson counties show that complaints were made about conditions at Abounding Grace years before the current allegations of abuse were made.

According to letters from both counties' social-service departments to Helder's division, Caswell County investigated four reports about the school between April 1997 and February 1999. Three reports of neglect were unsubstantiated, and the other investigation "did not reveal any information to suggest that the boys are used for labor, inappropriately disciplined, 'afraid of you' or not being home schooled within the appropriate guidelines," according to letters from Caswell County to the Mitchells.

In 2001, Davidson County social workers also investigated the school after getting a report about unsafe living conditions there. What they found during that investigation raised concerns about excessive punishment.

Officials with the Davidson County Department of Social Services did not respond to repeated requests for comment. The N.C. Division of Social Services declined to comment on specifics of the case.

In a May 7, 2001, letter to Charles Harris, then the chief of the children's-services section of the state division of social services, Davidson County social workers laid out the details of the investigation and their concerns about the school.

The converted storage building had no sprinkler system or smoke detectors, and had only one exit, down a wooden staircase, the letter said. The school was later brought up to code, according to county officials.

But questions about physical abuse lingered. Two of the boys told social workers that they had been hit 200 times with a paddle that the workers described as a "typical school paddle" - about 18 inches long and more than an inch thick. One of the boys said he had bruises on his buttocks, but refused to show them to the social worker. All of the boys said that they were not allowed to speak until lunchtime every day and that they were silenced for the first week after arriving at the school. One child told social workers that he was silenced for a month after he spoke when he wasn't supposed to.

Parents told social workers that they thought the strict rules at Abounding Grace were appropriate for their children. They knew that their children were getting licks and that "Brother Mitchell" administered four licks for each act of insubordination.

The letter ended with a request that the state look into the school while the local agency continued its investigation.

Reports of abuse in July 2004

County social workers didn't contact the school again until July 21, 2004, when they came to investigate reports of abuse that led to the current charges.

This time, the reports came from the parents of two boys who hadn't returned to school after summer vacation.

The Mitchells later learned that the parents called social services with allegations that the boys had been beaten with boat paddles and subjected to long periods of solitary confinement. They also said that boys were sometimes forced to eat their own vomit after becoming sick at the school.

"What they've done is taken truths and stretched them beyond all limits, making them into extremes," Mitchell said.

He doesn't deny that there were paddlings at the school. He also doesn't deny that the boys were sometimes subjected to solitary confinement as an alternative to spanking.

And yes, the boys sometimes vomited. A few of them came into the school with weak stomachs, according to the paperwork submitted by their parents.

But the Mitchells deny ever issuing 200 paddle licks at a time, silencing students for a month, forcing them to ingest their own vomit or abusing them in any other way.

"If I really believed something like that that I heard from my son, I'd be driven like these mothers are," Mitchell said. He believes that the two boys conspired to make up stories of abuse when they found out their parents planned to send them back to the school. "For the life of me, I can't believe that these boys thought it would go this far," he said.

Several parents interviewed for this story said they don't believe the stories of abuse.

"I love the Mitchells," said Wanda Harris, whose son, Wayne Bland, attended Abounding Grace. "I'm disappointed in a couple of the boys because they not only ruined the Mitchells' lives, they've ruined the lives of these other children as well, who were getting the treatment that they needed," she said.

"I know deep in my heart that nothing happened," Harris said.

Since he left the school, Bland said, it's been hard to stay out of trouble. He said he sometimes turns to the Mitchells for advice.

Boseman said he thought the program was good for his son, too.

Mitchells charged with abuse

On July 22, 2004, the day after their initial visit, county social workers returned. They showed the Mitchells pictures of a student with marks and sores on his buttocks and took all the boys from the school.

Mitchell was arrested on one count of misdemeanor child abuse in connection to the marks on the boy, and had no more contact with the boys until the charge was dropped by the district attorney.

Then, on May 16, 2005, Mitchell was indicted on two counts of felony child abuse stemming from the same investigation. Lee Mitchell was also charged; she faces one count of felony child abuse.

District Attorney Garry Frank declined to discuss the case, because of the pending trial.

Mitchell said he feels betrayed. He and his family still live in the school, behind Believer's Baptist Church in Lexington. "When I get up early in the morning and go to church and two full pews ahead of me are empty, two whole pews that used to be filled with boys, empty. We've lost them and we can never gain that back," he said. "All we were trying to do is what the parents asked us to do, give the guys old-fashioned standards and make them act the way boys used to be."

Helder acknowledged that anyone who works with troubled youth is taking a risk. "I think they understand that those types of things can happen," he said. "If someone starts a school for these types of kids, you have to ask, 'Were these kids credible to start with?' It's basically, at this point, the Mitchells' word against the kids' word. It's up to the court to decide which is the more credible party."

• Jessica Guenzel can be reached in Lexington at (336) 248-2074 or at jguenzel@wsjournal.com

[mitchells_mom (mitchells_mom)]

Dated 8-1-05
To: Guenzel, Jessica
Subject: abuse allegations

We can empathize with the Mitchells plight. My husband and I operated a
specialized group care foster home but only took up to 4 girls at a time.
We know exactly how the truths are taken and exaggerated to something that
sounds horrible. For example one day the girls all decided they were
leaving. We live out in the country but only 3 miles from the I90/94
interstate system where just about anyone will pick up a child who is hitch
hiking. We've had ignorant people pick up girls at the end of our driveway
and help them run away. At any rate our policy is to let them run but we
follow them with a vehicle to assure that they have a nice walk but no one
picks them up. They reported to social workers that my husband was trying
to run them over with the car. We also lock the doors when we are all
outside working ( we cared for girls who required "eyes on" at all times so
they reported they were locked out for up to 8 hours and we only brought
them food at meal time and made them use the porto potty. They just failed
to mention that we were outside with them also using the porto potty and
eating our lunch outside. If we can be of any assistance let us know. In
april there was an abuse allegation against us by one of our adopted
daughters because we had slapped her mouth for using extremely vulgar
language at us after we physically carried her to her room when she became
disorderly and refused to go on her own. We did not deny having done this
and so our county substantiated abuse and within a matter of ours all of the
foster children were removed from our home. These were girls who had
diagnosis of RAD, ODD, Bi-Polar, Borderline personality disorders and in
some cases had been physically aggressive with others but had made great
progress in our home. One of the girls had been in our home for almost 2
years and had progressed from not going to school at all to the A honor
roll. None of the girls wanted to leave and were devastated when they were
moved to other homes. The abuse substantiation was dropped 2 days before we
went to the administrative appeal but not before our name and reputation
were destroyed and we will likely never be able to take care of foster
children again. Our daughter is in foster care but is probably being
returned shortly. We have learned much in our efforts to be vindicated but
our knowledge came late and cannot save us. If we can help anyone avoid the
nightmare we have endured we are here to help.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Mitchells mom,

Looks like to me that the apple does not fall to far from the tree. Now I am enlightened on why Leigh is the way she is.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Just for everyone's information>>>My son has stated facts and truths.

[mitchells_mom (mitchells_mom)]

PLEASE NOTE:
MY LAST POSTING WAS A REPRINT OF AN E-MAIL THAT WAS SENT TO THE REPORTER AT THE WINSTON SALEM JOURNAL. SHE WANTED TO SHARE THE RESPONSE TO HER ARTICLE. THIS WAS NOT WRITTEN BY ME. I DID NOT POST THE NAME OF THE SENDER IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEIR PRIVACY.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

justice seeker

SO WERE WERE YOU TODAY? HOW IS IT THAT YOU KNEW NOT TO BE THERE?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

YOUR RIGHT THE APPLE DOSNT FALL TO FAR FROM THE TREE JUSTICE SEEKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

Justice Seeker and Family Friend,

We missed seeing you today in court. That's right you knew not to come.
You also missed a great weekend at Belivers Baptist. They are the friendliest people and I am so glad to have friends like them. The service Saturday night was for the youth and boy what a service that was. And then Sunday rolled around and they were great also.
Maybe we can see you next time.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

phil what are you doing im on your side im david arnold.

what i meant by my last statement was justice seeker is just as crazy as her son.

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

Family Friend,

I am sorry.

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

Family friend,

David I am sorry. Eveyone uses these names you know. It has been a long day.
Take care and we will see you soon.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

hey man no problem

will c ya next trial date im sure


thnx

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Answer to your question regarding why we knew not to be there...We all stay in constant contact with the DA's office.


Mithcells mom

You stated you know a story and that you knew facts, not fiction, you also stated were not here to state lies. In a previous post of your story telling you stated that you only knew of Stan as a pony tailed young man. Then you stated that you gave advice to Mitchell concerning a mistake he had made. Which is it?

How could you possibly have advised Stan Mitchell on "mistakes" in his life when you were not involved in this mans life yet? Didn’t he have his own mother that was very involved with his life at that time? Yes, I know Ms Turner, I got to know her pretty good, and believe me she knew her son exceptionally well. You see, something you may not be aware of...This was more that just one night as you stated --- as a fact.

Another question: Isn't what you have printed to this list nothing but just hearsay of what you were told many years later by a man that is fighting tooth and nail for his life at this time? Were you actually sitting there next to him when the conversations you have spoken of happened? NO, you were not. So in reality, you have no idea what was said by whom, do you?

Ask yourself, why would any girl drop out of college and raise a child by herself? Oh, did you miss that fact? Yes, I was in college, enrolled in the criminal justice program, when news of my pregnancy came. As your own child did not finish high school, education seems not to be important to you and your family. AND as I've just learned, isn't the only reason Stan even has a GED is because it was court ordered?

Yes, I plan on finding out how 2 basically uneducated people can obtain a license to run a non-public school. Believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This said, Yes!!! I have a child that I raised completely on my own with NO FINANCIAL help from his father. Giving Stan the title of Deadbeat Dad. Just because I didn’t accept his marriage proposal doesn’t mean he did not have a responsibility to that child. As I answered him “We made one mistake, let’s not make another.” Why would I choose that kind of life for me and my child, people might ask? There is reason, very valid reasons.

This is a story that I am willing to tell under oath because I intend to tell the truth, nothing but the truth, so help me GOD. See, your other daughter is not the only one that knows how to investigate. I can prove my story beyond a shadow of a doubt. Something I don't believe you can do, as your story would leave you wide open to a perjury charge, mitchells mom.

I would have thought that as he became saved and then accepted the call to preaching somewhere within all that, he would have known that he should have righted a wrong he had done many years prior. He should have finally stood up to his responsibility--But he didn’t. He simply chose to continue to forget about that other child. Not caring what the repercussions were.

About his witnessing to me, I don’t think asking me not to let that child grow up thinking he was a low down SOB, qualifies.

Yes, I see the path you are taking in order to protect your family, but to be credible, I would think you must start with the TRUTH.

[snappy (snappy)]

So I'm guessing by the posts that are on here that the court date was delayed again? Someone please fill me in as to what happened on Monday. Thanks.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

snappy


ask fact seeker she SEEMS TO KNOW EVERYTHING.

fact seeker your statements make no sense your just "like" a dog chasing its tail. you make no sense.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

You really show your true character by talking about people the way that you do, especially people that you do not know at all.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

If, that is what being a Christian is like than I want no part of it.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

oh dont pull that with me!!!!!! the bible says be angry and sin not. to be honest you people make me angry. i guess jesus was showing his true character when he went into the temple and turned all the tables over because people were selling in the lords house so dont tell me christians cant get a liile upset.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

oh by the way justice seeker what is the direct line to the DA OFFICE i would like to keep in touch with them also.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Family Friend,

So what got your goat tonight?

NO one was talking about YOU! Or are they? Oh, yeah, that's right!!! Your David something....I forgot...the way you reacted (once again) one would think I had said something personal about YOU.

Did I act the way you did today when false statements were stated about me a few weeks ago? No, I acted like an adult, something you have yet to do.

People,

Realize this: If this had been the President of the United States, I would be just as against him. This isn't a personal, it is simply a case of right and wrong.

Like I've said before, all my son wants to do, is tell what he saw and be done with it. I also KNOW that if he had heard of this case, and he knew it not to be true, he would have contacted the other side to be a witness for the defense.

All he wants to do is put this part of his life behind him, ONCE AND FOR ALL.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

i take it personal because stan and leigh ar emy friends. i hate to see them hurting. and i wasnt even talkin to you i was talkin to justice seeker

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

FF,

Your right--Your very LAST post prior to mine, was not to me, BUT when you stated this:

"fact seeker your statements make no sense your just "like" a dog chasing its tail. you make no sense."

you were talking to me, and THAT is the post I was responding to. The one where you show your "christian" behavior - once again.

Now, do we have that all cleared up?

[snappy (snappy)]

I wish someone would have just answered my simple question.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Snappy,

The case has been postponed and yes there are valid reasons. No! I will not discuss those reasons at this time.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

Family Friend,

I am talking about you calling my son and myself names. You do not even know us. That is not Christian behavior.

If, you want the Da's number ask the Mitchell's attorney Chuck for it.

I have no desire to help anyone who repeatedly talks about my son or myself.

I mean really do you feel better about yourself when you talk to us that way?

I am really getting a sense of the type of people you are.

What I do not understand about it is that you do not know us, literally. So where do you have the right?

[family_friend (family_friend)]

js

when have i called you names?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

ff
If you can't keep your comments straight, why should we do it for you? You are just "like" Brad Hanson, always running off at the mouth without anything substantial coming out of it.



Snappy,
Sorry for the delay, I only caught the tail end of the posting yesterday and had missed your post.

From what I understand, things are being moved up to superior court. Stay tuned!!!

[snappy (snappy)]

Thanks for the reply folks, I was not wanting specific details, not yet anyway, just wondering what had happened Monday. Please if anything develops post it here, as there is no way I can make it to court proceedings. Just wanting to stay in the loop!

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

Justice Seeker

You once again seem to have the chip on your shoulder.

If my son had told me that he had been abused, I would probably have some anger. You have done what you wanted to and that is close the school down. Just think of all the good that was done. I would hate for my son to get on the witness stand and have all his past exposed. That is ths past and we can't change that, but we can help with their future.
My son is now active in our church and is enrolled in school and getting the education that he needs. Had his life not been turned around at AGSFB, he would probably be in jail or HELL.
I have probably spent more time with the Mitchel's in the last months than you ever did and all I can see is love for the boys. They continue to pray for yours.
I will continue to stand by the Mitchell's.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

It is a little funny how you people want to use those words...If my son had told me that he had been abused, I would probably have some anger.

When I asked this question repeatedly months ago--NO one wanted to answer them before....They told me it was an invalid question.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

PHIL, I AM NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND HAVE A DEBATE WITH YOU.

DO NOT WORRY ABOUT MY SON BEING EXPOSED, THERE IS NOT ANYTHING IN HIS PAST THAT WE HAVE TO HIDE OR IS THERE ANYTHING IN HIS PAST THAT JUSTIFIES THE ABUSE THE MITCHELLS INFLICTED UPON HIM. OUR ONLY CONCERN IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN.

A CHIP WORD NOT BE THE WORD FOR IT. HE HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF THE MITCHELLS AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY THINGS ABOUT HIM THAT ARE NOT TRUE OR CALL NAMES HE IS A VICTIM YET AGAIN.

SO LETS SEE JUST HOW MUCH OF A CHIP YOU WOULD HAVE ON YOUR SHOULDERS.

I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THE MITCHELLS, ONLY THEIR CHILDREN. I HAVE NO DESIRE TO FORGIVE THEM UNTIL THEY ADMITT THE ABUSE.

I FIND IT HARD TO BELEIVE THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME ANGER, ESPECIALLY IF YOU KNEW ALL I KNOW.

I HAVE ASKED REPEATEDLY ON HERE FOR PEOPLE TO REFRAIN FROM TALKING ABOUT MY SON. REPEATEDLY SOME HAVE IGNORED THAT PLEA. I AM HUMAN>>> MY SON HURTS, I HURT, MY SON BLEEDS, I BLEED.

I AM ASKING AGAIN>>> PLEASE DO NOT TALK ABOUT MY SON OR MYSELF AGAIN. YOU DO NOT KNOW US>>>YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD. THIS STATEMENT IS TO ANYONE THAT HAS TALKED ABOUT US.

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

Justice Seeker

You are right, I don't know you and that is my pleasure. And you do not own this message board and I will say what I want when I want.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

AMEN PHIL these people keep acting like christians just have to sit back and be walked all over. I DONT THINK SO!!!! we have an obligation to stand up and speak up for what we believe to be truth also. so im going to keep putting "MY OPINION" on here also.

[phil_boseman (phil_boseman)]

family friend

AMEN buddy. We'll stand together.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Snappy,

No problem, will do.

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

FAMILY FRIEND AND PHIL BOSEMAN,

I HAVE NOT ONCE TOLD YOU TO SIT BACK AND BE WALKED ALL OVER, HOWEVER I HAVE ASKED THE FOLLOWING REPEATEDLY.

I AM ASKING AGAIN>>> PLEASE DO NOT TALK ABOUT MY SON OR MYSELF AGAIN. YOU DO NOT KNOW US>>>YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD. THIS STATEMENT IS TO ANYONE THAT HAS TALKED ABOUT US.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT>>YOUR OPINION AND NOTHING MORE. OPINIONS WILL NOT COUNT IN A COURT ROOM, ONLY FACTS. SO WHY NOT TRY STICKING TO THE FACTS, INSTEAD OF CALLING PEOPLE NAMES AND PUTTING THEM DOWN.

I AM SORRY TRUE CHRISTIANS DO NOT ACT THE WAY YOU DO.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

blah blah blah

thats all i hear from you. you know what you dont know what you being told by your son is fact either your listening to him and im listening to stan. both involved in the case. so what makes you anymore right than me.

by the way im ready to see the truth come out why dont you try callin the DA 2 or 3 times a week to get this thing tried. i think the more you stay after them the sooner this thing can be settled.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

family friend,

What is the matter with you tonight? Always got to be starting something? Go do something constructive...like growing up.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

PS.

family friend...

You want this case to hurry up? TELL "YOUR BUDDY" TO START TELLING THE TRUTH.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

just answer the question

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

ff

duh! You didn't ask a question.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

fs duh yea thats real mature

i ask what made your sons story anymore the truth than stans?


stan hasnt had the oppurtunity to tell the "truth" yet it hasnt gone to trial?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Ff,

I didn't see the question because of how you worded it. Most questions end with a ? mark, yours all had periods. So I completely missed that you were asking something that required an answer. I apologize. I thought you were making a statement.

This is the question: so what makes you anymore right than me.

The discussion of late has been about your reactions and unchristian like behavior to the postings on this board. Since your NOT stan or leigh, what I wonder is: Do they know how you are representing them??? No answer required.

I believe the question you are asking has already been addressed many times over and over. As you say: blah blah blah...same old same old.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

im not representing them im simply stateing "my opinion"........

[justice_seeker (justice_seeker)]

FAMILY FRIEND,

YOU ARE STATING YOUR OPINION BY CALLING US NAMES AND PUTTING US DOWN?

I HAVE ASKED THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM THAT. PERIOD!

NO ONE HAS TOLD YOU NOT TO STAND UP FOR STAN AND NOT TO STATE YOUR OPINION.

THE WAY I SEE IT >>>>YOU ARE SLANDERING US, YOU DO NOT KNOW US, AND AGAIN I AM ASKING FOR YOU TO REFRAIN FROM THIS.

IS THIS POSSIBLE?

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Justice seeker,

My opinion is that I do not think he has it in him.

[family_friend (family_friend)]

fs


i havnt called anybody names i dont know why you keep saying this?

please help

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

family friend,

YOU ARE REALLY A STRANGE ONE!

If you truly do not think you have called us names then so be it, but you have!! It is in print on this message board and the fact that you deny it, proves you lie. Is that a credibility flaw??? I think so, don't know about how anybody else feels on that one.

I'm guessing you guys believe that because you are in your church it really doesn't matter what you do or how you live your life or what you show the world about your character.

But most of all, it shows how you feel about how you treat other people.

As far as me helping you, you are beyond any help I can give you. I will reframe from any additional comments.

[fact_seeker (fact_seeker)]

Next court date 10/3/05

[try_to_be_objective (try_to_be_objective)]

Questions I have had ever since I have started reading this message board.

Would anyone who is guilty of such charges as these Mitchell's are charged with; ever keep video cameras in the home? Especially having video cams after the fact they know they are being questioned and watched by authorities?

I only want objective answers not any answers with sarcastic over tones that shows bias opinions.
I have a few other questions that I will later post.
Thank you

[try_to_be_objective (try_to_be_objective)]

http://www.finetuning.com/articles/p0-359-child-protection-reform.html