Superapostles

[ontheroad (ontheroad)]

This link is very informative and on-target in alot of what it says about self-proclaimed "apostolic ministries". I am not discounting all apostolic churches, but I DO think many can cross over into the things described in this article: authoritarian leadership, forced submission of members to a dominating leadership, loss of individuality of members, false apostolic prophetic words and mandates, and twisted doctrine to suit self-appointed agendas:

http://www.cultwatch.com/superapostles.html

[arron (arron)]

so do i

[arron]

if there is twisted doctrine.. oh you can find it on the threads here every thing from snake seed to no rapture todnying that JESUS is GOD. denying the trinity and denying THE BLOOD OF JESUS

[anonymous505050]

'However these Super Apostles do not follow Paul's example. They are rigorous self-promoters who see power and wealth as important goals. They demand that you cede (to yield typically by treaty) to their authority. Church members must sign "covenants" stating that they will obey the church leadership. Church leaders themselves must "submit" their lives to the Super Apostles. To not submit is to rebel against God's will and condemn you to a barren Christian life outside the protection of the Super Apostles magical "umbrella of authority". For those who do not yield it is claimed God will leave them to fend for themselves when the enemy comes. Also rebels will suffer a life of physical poverty, not to mention terrible accidents and diseases. To reject the Super Apostles themselves is the greatest sin. Do not even suggest that they are wrong; the spiritual repercussions could be horrendous!'

Onetheroad-- I copied the above paragraph from the link as I found it very relevant. I can say to you and other readers that what the paragraph quotes is true in that it actually happens. It is however a LIE in the sense that once you leave but keep connected to Christ, no weapon formed against you can prosper. I know for a fact that some churches use witchcraft to ensure that calamity befalls those who question the 'superapostle.' They need you to suffer and fail so they can justify their own deception. When you succeed whitout them, they say you are serving the devil. It is a no win situation for these mind controlling organisations. The bottom line is if God blesses you, no man or demon can curse you.

[ontheroad]

505050 wrote: "They need you to suffer and fail so they can justify their own deception. When you succeed whitout them, they say you are serving the devil."

You really hit the nail on the head! I have experienced this first hand.

[anonymous505050]

I have looked into this whole thing about mind control and super apostles and my findings have been very alarming. As the link demonstrates the practice of mind control is widespread across the earth.

After leaving a particular church a certain 'super apostle' informed me that because I questioned his integrity and apostolic grace, fire and brimstone would come down on me and my family. Well I admit that fire and brimstone did come but it was not from God. I am pleased that Jesus is a faithful God.

I have read that when people leave a cult their lives fall into decay. Some go on drugs, others just loose it due to being spiritually delusioned. For me it was a breakdown in faith. While I knew that God IS,I could not trust any church or any religious leader. I grew up in churh so this was a big thing for me. Now my faith has been restored in God not in men. I will never be the religious type that go to church every Sunday because I have to but my relationship with the Lord is getting better.

You CAN succeed whitout the 'covering' of these false apostles. YOU CAN achieve Victory whitout their input. YOU CAN have what GOD said you will have. Whatever the challenges, whether it be lack of faith, fear, white magic, black magic, God will be help you if you sincerely seek him. This may make the cult angry but as Oprah winfrey said, the best way to get back at your enemies is to be a resounding success.

God Bless.

[franklin]

The last apostles were the apostles who knew Christ in the flesh.

Anybody else is just a pastor.

It's late so all else I've got to say is "We don't need no stinking apostles"!

[2c2bmore]

We don't need apostles.
We don't need titles- across the board, for anyone God wants to promote for HIMSELF.
We need greater SERVANTS. The church is bursting at the seams with human aggendas.
At least 8 major "religeous" wars were entered into by those who herolded their system of beliefs as being more substantial than that of seeking understanding of the God they thought they served.The search to understanding His nature, and his desire for each being as his created subject is the LAST UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY as I see it.

[2c2bmore]

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[2c2bmore]

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[arron]

i saw the video that leroy jenkings produced of his life. it was complete blasphemey. there was cursing, not plain old cussing in it and he prtrayed himself as one who was ahypoctite in that he just kept on going and acting as if nothing was wrong. he portrayed himnself as one who knew exactly what he was doing. it was nothing but pure filth.