Jim Brenneman

[1_corinthians_13 (1_corinthians_13)]

I'd like to know where Jim Brenneman is. I see comments about Joe Brenneman who is currently leading FA, is he related to Jim?

I knew Jim from waaayyyyy back in the 70's. I hope he's doing well. Any info about him would be appreciated.

[mark1124 (mark1124)]

Yes, Jim and Joe are brothers but I have don't know his whereabouts. You may want to inquire from Joe himself by emailing Joe yourself.

[mark1124 (mark1124)]

Yes, you can use the email address that is not for Faith Assembly orders.

God bless
Mark

[cougarxr72 (cougarxr72)]

The one thing I remember about Jim was that he occasionally would bring out new songs, I don't know whether he wrote them himself or he found them somewhere, but as I recall most of them were good songs.

[1_corinthians_13 (1_corinthians_13)]

cougarxr72,

Now that you mentioned it I remember that too.

Mark1124,

Thanks for your advice to contact Joe via email about Jim. I did just that and we both had an interesting conversation. Joe seems like a very likeable guy.

The next time I'm in the Warsaw area I think I'm going to stop by where Jim works and say hi. He problably won't recognize me....we're both a lot older.

[mark1124 (mark1124)]

Yes he is. I have known Joe, though not metto him personally, for a number of years now. He has been a real blessing to me over the years.

Mark

(Message edited by mark1124 on January 07, 2006)

(Message edited by mark1124 on January 07, 2006)

[a_barn_kid (a_barn_kid)]

Jim Brenneman lives in Warsaw last I heard. He was working at the Marsh store cutting meat. He married Luanne Dilley after her husband and a couple kids died in a tragic car accident I'm guessing that was about 15 years ago.

Jim and Luann have since divorced. They did have a child together I understand. The Dilley kids never seemed to like Jim - which isn't too surprising to me. The Dilley kids did not seem to fare too well. Sossity left her first loser husband for a guy she met on the internet. Another sister I heard is a lesbian. I was called for jury duty for one of the boys. It's a very sad situation.

Jim looks pretty much the same, so if you run into him, you'll still definitely recognize him.

[1faithassemblykid]

I talked to Sossity a few months ago. She lives in NY, owns her own business and is doing quite well for herself.

As a general comment, FA set kids up for jail/drug abuse, etc.

That could be a long topic, I am starting a new threaed

[mark1124]

I disagree. FA did not set up the kids for jail/drug abuse. When they left the true work of God, God let them get into the mess that they got into. Look at a lot of people who left the work and see where they are now.

I have not left the message and I am doing real well...not thanks to FA but to the Lord for preserving me.

You need to provide evidence that FA set the kids up for jail/drug abuse. Typical anti FA hatred. Nothing new.

I am waiting for unhealed to chime in with his garbage now.

[healed]

You must be corrected. I am healed, not unhealed. Please dont confuse my name with one of the dieharders like Hombre..aka Unhealed. Unhealed homebread and yourself are waiting for the second coming of Freeman, clearly showing us your attachments and lingering sickness. Get yourself healed mark.

[cougarxr72]

In regards to your remarks Mark as far as evidence goes. Most all of the kids I grew up with in FA had problems once the church dissolved either with drugs, alcohol, crime, children out of wedlock, etc. The problem is/was all of us kids had zero balance in our lives as children. We were tuned to the FA channel 24/7. We weren't allowed to be kids. After the church dissolved many kids lost parents to divorce, lost siblings and parents to illness "in the faithwalk". Much of what we grew up in was difficult. Watching your 2 your old brother die at 11 years old is tramatic, watching your grandma die over 6 months from cancer at 13 is tramatic. There wasn't any method/system in place to help kids of this church deal with grief, all you heard from the church was someone in the family must have been sinning otherwise the family member would have been healed do you know what kind of guilt was placed on kids in these families? Once the church dissolved many parents turned their backs on the message and then you had a whole generation of kids who didn't know what to believe. Many of them turned to other sources to cope. Fortunately I have been able to adapt/change and lead a somewhat normal life, but it is because my parents also adapted and changed through the years. One other item to note and this is just my opinion, FA was so concerned with indoctrinating the kids with the Faith Message, that most parents never taught their kids about real life and the real world. As long as FA existed and the kids could be sheltered, they didn't have to be concerned. I don't care what religion you belong to or believe, sometimes people just have to learn the hard way. Sheltering kids from reality is no way to teach them, this is what was meant by setting kids up for failure IMO. There are/were too many instances where children from this environment had serious problems in adult life to conclude that it didn't contribute to these kids problems as adults. I have stated this many times in regards to posters like Mark and others who didn't attend FA full time for any extended period of time, it is hard to imagine what it was really like growing up and living in that environment. You just don't get the full picture in listening to the tapes.

[cougarxr72]

In regards to your remarks Mark as far as evidence goes. Most all of the kids I grew up with in FA had problems once the church dissolved either with drugs, alcohol, crime, children out of wedlock, etc. The problem is/was all of us kids had zero balance in our lives as children. We were tuned to the FA channel 24/7. We weren't allowed to be kids. After the church dissolved many kids lost parents to divorce, lost siblings and parents to illness "in the faithwalk". Much of what we grew up in was difficult. Watching your 2 your old brother die at 11 years old is tramatic, watching your grandma die over 6 months from cancer at 13 is tramatic. There wasn't any method/system in place to help kids of this church deal with grief, all you heard from the church was someone in the family must have been sinning otherwise the family member would have been healed do you know what kind of guilt was placed on kids in these families? Once the church dissolved many parents turned their backs on the message and then you had a whole generation of kids who didn't know what to believe. Many of them turned to other sources to cope. Fortunately I have been able to adapt/change and lead a somewhat normal life, but it is because my parents also adapted and changed through the years. One other item to note and this is just my opinion, FA was so concerned with indoctrinating the kids with the Faith Message, that most parents never taught their kids about real life and the real world. As long as FA existed and the kids could be sheltered, they didn't have to be concerned. I don't care what religion you belong to or believe, sometimes people just have to learn the hard way. Sheltering kids from reality is no way to teach them, this is what was meant by setting kids up for failure IMO. There are/were too many instances where children from this environment had serious problems in adult life to conclude that it didn't contribute to these kids problems as adults. I have stated this many times in regards to posters like Mark and others who didn't attend FA full time for any extended period of time, it is hard to imagine what it was really like growing up and living in that environment. You just don't get the full picture in listening to the tapes.

[healed]

Well I peeked in over at overcomersonline.com and found a whole new dialouge going on. I thought Cougar was in favor of all things FA but after reading his lattest post over there, he seems to be leaning more towards how I think. I agree with what your saying over there. Those guys are just being nostalgic about FA, thus the new site, they aint fooling nobody. Whats interesting is the pic of Moulder with his glasses. Hmmm, I seem to remeber that as being a lack of faith, guess we have ourselves a backslider. One thing I know for sure is that clowns Mark, Hombre and Moulder havent experienced suffering like I have or others did or otherwise they wouldnt be so nostalgic about FA, like making post about "whats the most important thing Hobart preached?" Who cares? I think Duncan is a borderline clown, he just had a good family that sheltered him from some of the more harsher aspects of it all. Inside FA there was like an elite group as well. The guys at overcomersonline.com are still possesed with that demon I think. This Tomax is another one. Oh my he has surely become Mr. Worldly with his website and all. I see him dropping by at overcomersonline.com as well. I also notice on his website for Freeman and FA he rarely post anything from past members that is negative. It always seems to be the fruity post about how they miss all things FA.

[hombre]

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One thing I know for sure is that clowns Mark, Hombre and Moulder havent experienced suffering like I have or others did <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Well, of course, we didn't Unhealed.
We couldn't possibly know more than you, or have experienced
the sufferings that you have. Perhaps you should apply for the title of new false Messiah....
I rather think, however, that in order to attract new converts to your venom spewing, hatred emanating,
self appointed throne of deception you will need to aquire an education somewhere along the line.

[healed]

Ah, are we sounding a bit hypocritical now?.. you will need to aquire an education says the holier than thou hombread. But I thought that Brother Freeman taught us that young adults shouldnt attend college. Im still confused as to where you stand Brother Homebread. And Brother Moulder is sporting some glasses, clearly exposing his lack of faith. But we see where he endorses all things FA. I guess I need to work on my worldly education so I can figure out this new faith, this new fellowship that you got going on.

[micah]

healed,
wow you are faithful!! I cannot tell you how it warms my heart to see you still fighting the good fight, I have been in and out, mostly out lately, I moved half way across the country, that will keep one busy. I have tried every way possible to come to grips with my childhood, I dont get it. I am just so glad to be as far away from all that nonsense as possible! I have been all over the gammit, I once believed that man was inherently good, therfore I would try to find the good in hobie and all his kooks, but now I know man is inherently evil, that makes life and understanding the meaning thereof easier for me! So good luck fighting off the kooks! Im with you, its so much fun, but I will be in and out, I will check up when I get the chance.
Peace.

[healed]

Well thanks Micah. The fight in me will be around for much longer to come. Suffering continues in one way or another for my family thanks to Brother Hobarts grip and some stubborn hard headiness that continues on today. What I thank God for now is the FREEDOM to fight back. That doesnt mean we throw all things to the wind, there are truths to be found in any teaching, even the Nazis had admirable things about their society if you read/look hard enough. Its the fanatical twisted side that caused the most suffering. Homebread and other disciples of FA were most likely adults during their FA years so for them its a totally different experience. The rod was spared and now I find that alot of them were doing things I didnt get to do because they were adults. Usually there is a deeper reason as to why people follow such nonsense. I wont dwell there, they all had their reasons. I think there is a Neo Faith Assembly out there now. The Neo FA types like Homebread and Mark have kept the holier than thou attitude but shed the "crucified life" message. These Neo types are interesting indeed.

[healed]

Nothing new here or over at overcomersonline.com Perhaps they got their head out of their behinds but its more likely they all moved their nonsense over to another site without sharing with us. Its all good as I dont miss them, but would like to see some activity by others on this thread from time to time. The lattest postings over at the Tomax site are mostly dieharders or Neo Freemanites, that is they are still nostalgic about the past FA days but have shed "deeper life" message and are now nurses, wearing glasses etc., but defend Freeman and FA to this day. What irony.

[mark1124]

You know healed, you need to move on and get on with life instead of spewing out your venom concerning all things Freeman and for those of us who still want to stay with the truth.

It is time for you to renounce your hatred for Freeman and for those of us who enjoy the teachings.

Let Jesus heal you of your hurts and hatred to all things Freeman and you can really call yourself Healed.

[healed]

Well you know Markie, I just dont feel it, Im feeling something different. I know your not happy with it, and you dont like it, but your just going to have to find a way to deal with it. But I think its good for you. Im not renouncing anything, especially my dislike of Freeman. What is wrong with me pointing out the contridictions I see with the Neo Freemanites, their new found love of all things worldly while others of us were not allowed to enjoy those things? You see brother Markie, Healing comes after a journey, one that I and others have went through. Only then can you claim the tittle Healed. Ill exercise my right to speak out against Freeman for I am a Free man indeed.

[barn_kid]

FYI: Jim Brenneman is remarried...again........some might recall how he was single for some time since his 1st wife was out of the picture for some reason during the FA years. He then married Luann Dilley after her husband and a few kids were killed in a tragic car accident. That marriage went on for some years until a few years ago he divorced her.........then it's my understanding he is happily remarried to a woman I heard he met on the internet. He currently works at Marsh Supermarket on Buffalo Street in Warsaw, Indiana - in charge of the seafood department. To be frank, I saw him recently and he looked happy, young and pretty thin. Didn't seem to have aged a bit.