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jonmoseley
10-24-2006, 04:20 PM
In the continuing attempt to get this Board to talk about the Bible and what is right and wrong, rather than ad hominem attacks on churches they no longer attend, here is another GENUINE issue identified.

I don't see how someone can recover and move on without knowing what was true and what was false. And I urge that to be explored from the Bible itself, free from personalities, grievances, and bad experiences.

Around October 22, 2006, on
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/25134.html?1161568281

Someone raises the criticism that the problem with Every Nation (as with many other fast-growing churches) is the strategy and system of effectively having Christian babies teaching babies, that is those very young in the Lord teaching and discipling people only slightly younger in the Lord.

That is an interesting question, and potentially a genuine defect in Every Nation that one may identify.

It would also be true of Marantha, of WYAM, and of many other Chistian Ministries.

Could we talk about this as a question in and of itself, instead of unfairly attacking only one church, when many other churches share this "problem" or issue?

Look at the Book of Acts. The newly-born Christian church was growing VERY fast, like wildfire across the land.

So what does the Bible teach us?

Is it Biblical for those who are new converts to evangelize and continue to reach out to more and more people?

Is that not exactly what did actually happen in the Book of Acts?

Sure there were more senior leaders available to back them up and correct them and guide them theologically.

But that is also true of Every Nation. While on a one-on-one level people might be leading others through the Purple Book, at the same time theology is being taught from the pulpit by senior pastors.

How is that different from the New Testament church portrayed in the Book of Acts?

Remember: The "senior" leaders had walked with Jesus 3 years or less.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? Is your concern about EN that there were spiritual babies teaching babies (those only slightly younger in the Lord)?

mcmstaff78
10-24-2006, 05:35 PM
Well, considering we're 2000 years removed from the Church needing to have "spiritual babes" taught by "spiritual babes", there's still other things to consider. Those who led the Church in the NT had spent three years with the Lord - they had the teaching direct from God, not simply some self-appointed "apostle's" or "prophet's" uneducated interpretation. Quite honestly, you present a patently false analogy that shouldn't even require a refutation.

mcmstaff78
10-24-2006, 05:40 PM
Jon, I noticed that you've responded everywhere but in the EN Blog section where Tik's responses to you are located. Perphaps you'd like to engage the thread "Jon Mosely where are you" over there.

miltietoast
10-26-2006, 11:24 AM
jon the bible I read has qualifications for leadership what bible do you read?