EVERY NATION AND THEONOMY

[speakword2004 (speakword2004)]

Senior leaders with MSI seem to have active ties to Christian Reconstructionists. Does anyone have any further information?

[john_r_jones (john_r_jones)]

Read Eric Holmberg's site or look up ulyankee's post in thread three where the recons and EN are shown to agree. These are the Gary North and co. bunch who blithly state that capital punishment should be carried out by the community by stoning. This is a loving-gives the community a sense of involvement and resposibility, and efficacious method the rocks are cheap, plentiful, and reusable. Gary North was involved with Maranatha back when. Eric cites recons in some of his new materials.
John
P.S. thanks for your encouragement.

(Message edited by john r. jones on May 15, 2005)

[speakword2004 (speakword2004)]

How was Gary North involved in Maranatha?

[john_r_jones (john_r_jones)]

Gary North's 1986 book "75 Questions" was dedicated to Bob and Rose Weiner. They were of course involved in CNP together. North now denounces the CNP as a shallow ploy to acheive status by the members in some CFR wanna be self aggrandizing cabal. Swanky hotels and hubris were the rule of the day according to North...sound familiar?
John

P.S. One of the ideals suscribed to by some foundational to CNP was a return to feudalism. R.J. Rushdooney was North's father in law and publisher of "The Chacedon Newsletter". These CNP events were attended by those who could barely afford the memberhip fees and expenses and by the well heeled and powerful who exercised their influence with the carrot of their wealth. Ther were a number of Christians who were drawn to this heady mix of proximal greatness which fed their egos, if not their accounts.

(Message edited by john r. jones on May 16, 2005)

[pilgrim (pilgrim)]

To everyone,

Look at the following website,

http://www.banner.org.uk/res/kt3.htm

Please reads the section PURGING THE EARTH, it looks like we are going to face a new inquisition, if some reconstructionist, dominionist have their way.

Please remember that the Christians in the New testament were persecuted but they never persecuted anyone.

You will also find in this website amongst other things the connection of Reconstructionist Gary North to The Dalas'84 convention for Maranatha Campus Ministries.

[pilgrim (pilgrim)]

I am sorry the previous link didn't work try the following link.

www.banner.org.uk/res/kt3.html (http://www.banner.org.uk/res/kt3.html)

[speakword2004 (speakword2004)]

John

I would like to ask you more specific questions on North and Broocks.

speakword2004@yahoo.co.uk

[coppertree (coppertree)]

Hi john r, Thank you for your postings, I have taken much encouragement, and insight from them. What is CNP ?

I know, we had, in leadership in Maranatha, to read Rushdooney. I thought that Rushdooneey was a neo-platoist;therefore really against God. As I understand it. Thank you for your insight. I never knew...}

[john_r_jones (john_r_jones)]

Council for National Policy, or as I phrase it (Clowns Needing Power). Supposedly Gary North et.al. started this bunch with folks like Paul Weyrich, and other White House Flacks as North now terms them. Sun Myung Moon, The Hunts and others with moolah lurked at the periphery and let you smell their expensive cologne. North states many who joined had hardly enough money to cover the fees and expenses to attend these shindigs held at hotels where the lobby ferns were real. Rushdooney was a European emmigrant who escaped a turn of the century holacaust and emerged on the west coast as publisher of "The Chalcedon" nesletter. The cottage industry of Christian Recostructionism probably had it's genesis in his writings and thought. If you were to view old copies of "The Forerunner" television show you would hear Rice and Rose discussing the world and Chrisitianity from their perspective. He advocates stoning of homosexuals and others with whom they don't agree and considers Democracy the reserve of cowards and the weak. The Rutherford institute is a Christian organization he was a board member of which among other things mounted the Paula Jones law suit.
John

[aletheia (aletheia)]

<font color="0000ff">"Rushdooney was a European emmigrant who escaped a turn of the century holacaust..."</font>

A little factoid for the record - R.J. Rushdooney (Rousas John) was born in New York in 1916, the son of Armenian refugees who fled the systematic genocide of Armenians by the Turks. Rushdooney's parents came from the area of Van in Historic Armenia (Van was also the ancient capital of Urartu/Ararat), which later became part of modern Turkey.

[john_r_jones (john_r_jones)]

I omitted "the son of"
John

P.S. Its nice to hear from you and for keeping us straightened out.

(Message edited by john r. jones on February 18, 2006)

[pisteuo (pisteuo)]

I am afraid to say that many of you here are confusing theonomy and christian reconstructionists with Kingdom Now theology.

The "fathers" of the reconstruction movement (often called post-millenialists) were solidly reformed in their theology and unashamed Calvinists. No one con dispute that their overall theology is 100% reformed. Their only departure -- so to speak -- is in the area of eschatology.

What the Kingdom Now movement has done is taken the post-millenial parts, add charismatic word-faith theology, and come up with something that relies more on human power than God's providence.

Please do not trash a legitimate eschatology based on the fact that some charismatics have abused it.