Maranatha Music [Archive]

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 08:07 PM

Reading all of Maranatha1984's blog reminded me of the original Praise Band, the Rothwells (it *was* Randy Rothwell, right?) and that led me to recall I still have their first two LPs. I'm at work now, but I think when I get home I'm going to pull them out.

Honestly, I never was all that impressed with them. However, I will say Maranatha introduced me to John Michael Talbot when they brought him to the Athens campus in the fall of '77 or spring of '78 (can't really remember). They also brought "Hope of Glory" to town for a couple shows.

Anyway, that got me started listening to "CCM" for the next 10 to 15 years or so. I remember having a fairly spirited discussion with mdillon in the M'Boro bookstore over whether one of the bands whose records we carried were "Christian". Can't remember who it was. I want to say Resurrection Band, but I don't think their first LP came out until I was in Lexington (gotta admit I loved that bad - I especially loved that Bob Martin hated "rock music" - strange things you remember after 30 years - but wouldn't keep me from stocking stuff like that because it drew the kids in).

Anyone still got LPS (or even cassettes) from Praise or it's little siblings?

mdillon

07-21-2006, 08:27 PM

jon, dude, your memory is scaring me. i'm sending in the black helicopters for those journals

md

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 08:57 PM

mdillon: jon, dude, your memory is scaring me. i'm sending in the black helicopters for those journals.

Me: Actually I *really* only wrote in my journal sporadically. Nothing about the day to day stuff. Almost *always* it was related to some love interest. I *seriously* wanted to get married at that time. I think it's God's joke on me that I didn't get married until I was 28. It's like, see, you want something that bad I'll teach you to live without it. Ouch!

My wife will tell you my memory ain't that good. ;-D But reading posts here keeps triggering little things and dredging up these old memories.

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 09:16 PM

Resurerction Band's "Broken Promises"

Broken Promises, we lost the joy that we once knew;
Where do we go from here,
from something old to something new?
Past dreams done gone from me,
I'm losing daylight, losing view.

Son of God, where are You now?
Do You feel my need?
I'm lost within this forest,
Barricaded by the trees.

Will You hear my cry for help,
Would you forgive me?
I'm so far away,
I've run so far away.

*********************

Point? I'm not sure, but as I listened to it, these stanzas at anyrate seemed somewhat poignant and relevant to what many of us feel/felt at the realizing of what MCM and the like did to us. Just thought I'd share.

sameo

07-21-2006, 09:22 PM

MCM78:"Reading all of Maranatha1984's blog reminded me of the original Praise Band, the Rothwells (it *was* Randy Rothwell, right?) and that led me to recall I still have their first two LPs. I'm at work now, but I think when I get home I'm going to pull them out.
Honestly, I never was all that impressed with them"

Sameo: in fairness to my friends(haha) in the "early" Praise band, keep in mind that most of them were "drafted into service" and didn't necessarily consider themselves professional musicians. ;-) Although some of them clearly had what it took. I actually still have my LP of them too! somewhere...

sameo

matt_hatter

07-21-2006, 09:41 PM

Re: Praise Band, I look at it in a time perspective. Can't compare it to today, but in 1978 in Auburn AL, it was like nothing we had ever seen or heard. Me and the Alliecat and one other person with a guitar had led worship in a small church--no microphones--- before we came to Auburn. Guitar/choruses were radical at the time. This group just blew us away.

Matt

mdillon

07-21-2006, 10:06 PM

jon, the black helicopters won't be coming because miltie drank all the fuel. will send anointed brother in little white speedo with ribbons on stick. goes by "speak". do not mess with him he is dangerous

md

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 10:06 PM

I was probably too harsh in what I wrote about Praise Band above. They weren't bad. I liked Randy and his wife (Susan?), and got fairly well acquainted with them at one point. Yeah, I seem to remember some of them didn't really want to be doing what they were doing, but I could be misrembering again.

As for "radical", well your *are* talking about Auburn now, aren't you? I mean, that little tow "on the plains" has never been noted for its sophistication!! (Sorry, gotta get my UGA digs in where I can!!)

But speaking about music, I remember while we were still trying to keep the ministry at M'Boro on kickin', we had Terry Talbot come. We also had Mike Deasy (who was a pretty killer guitar player, but I can't remember off the top of my head who he had played with). I can't remember if it was Terry or Mike who trashed the whole shephership movement. It's pretty funny looking back on it, but Dillon was *cheesed* (well, okay, I had my holy, righteous indignation going, too. I mean, how dare he attack "the body"?). Good times, man, good times (he says with a wistful grin, wishing he had paid more attention to some of those voices God sent his way a bit sooner).

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 10:09 PM

MD: jon, the black helicopters won't be coming because miltie drank all the fuel. will send anointed brother in little white speedo with ribbons on stick. goes by "speak". do not mess with him he is dangerous

Me: If they were bio-diesel you could maybe run 'em off the left-over "annointing oil" from M'Boro. I don't think we ate *that much* popcorn. (Though Miltie's probably pretty well fueled, he could probably get to Atlanta in short order!!)

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 10:14 PM

I love redundancy, don't you?

mdillon

07-21-2006, 10:24 PM

jon, it was Terry Talbot and the reason I was cheesed is because Terry was offended that we had such a small group and therefore ran up the telephone and food bill because he knew the offering was going to be low. This was my first peek into "Behind the Scenes" of the Xian Music Beast. Good musician, bad hippy. Wanted to shove that geetar so that he could cast some new notes.

md

wildwood_

07-21-2006, 10:29 PM

I'm probably dropping in the middle of a discussion...

Blown away! You all have no idea... I was from a little Church of Christ, non-denominational (and they really met it) that sang acappella, we didn't even have a choir (that would've been "radical", bringing a "record player" into the building to play the "Wedding March" took several prayerful business meetings (note term "business" since they didn't consider it a "Church" matter. So, "Blown away"...any of you ol'boys ever been on a military base in the middle of beautiful dark, quiet night, driving peacefully along, pull over to enjoy the stars... then suddenly have a hellfire missle blast from nowhere across your head...black Helicopters apparently can be wwery wwery quiet... My husband thought my reaction funny...) First exposure to Praise Band...same thing...Grabbing my knees & coming to Jesus moment both times!!!

AND MSTAFF78...YOU WERE RIGHT...I bought those LPS...tapes...whatever you had in stock...does seem like I stopped going in there by the Spring of 1980.. I left my "group" winter '79 but since I didn't leave Jesus I wonder if the store changed their stock... even Church of Christ people in Lexington (Southside...some of the others, well...unfriendly comes to mind) liked the Praise music. For their services they'd take the songs. Drop the instruments & do a three part harmony...I visited sometimes.

Hi!!I've missed being online...trying to read everything at once now.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

matt_hatter

07-21-2006, 10:41 PM

78 said: "As for "radical", well your *are* talking about Auburn now, aren't you?"

Oh, gonna play dirty are ye? LOL, this coming from a guy who's mascot slobbers and licks himself for the entire game, all the while lying on a bag of ice. hehe 11/11/06-see you at the Plains big boy! ha!

And Wildy, good to see you! Awesome post a while back. Love the back porch, living room thing.

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 10:55 PM

MD: jon, it was Terry Talbot and the reason I was cheesed is because Terry was offended that we had such a small group and therefore ran up the telephone and food bill because he knew the offering was going to be low. This was my first peek into "Behind the Scenes" of the Xian Music Beast. Good musician, bad hippy. Wanted to shove that geetar so that he could cast some new notes.

Me: See, my memory ain't that good. But I still remember someone ragging on the whole "authority" and "shepherdship" thing. Was that Terry too?

Could never figure out why things went downhill so fast at M'Boro, but I guess it was actually a good thing, huh?

mdillon

07-21-2006, 10:57 PM

things went downhill so fast because we were not far from the bottom

md

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 11:02 PM

Wildwood: AND MSTAFF78...YOU WERE RIGHT...I bought those LPS...tapes...whatever you had in stock...does seem like I stopped going in there by the Spring of 1980.. I left my "group" winter '79 but since I didn't leave Jesus I wonder if the store changed their stock

Me: Well, when I was ordering the stock I got whatever was cutting edge (for '79, Resurrection Band was pretty much cutting edge - but there was a lot of other stuff as well). I actually built up a fairly decent collecting while I was there. I would run a sale every other week or so. Since bookstores paid 40% off MSRP, I'd take 20% or even 25% off and we'd still make some money since the overhead was covered by the ministry and the bookstore was pretty much just to get folks in the door.

Anyway, don't know what they did when I left. Never heard, never asked. In fact, I never heard from *anyone* in Lexington again. I think Kay Myatt was there when I was (at least her testimony jives with that), but I can't place her from her pictures on the web. Don't know what happened to Bob Martin, can't remember anyone else's names. Probably a good thing.

mcmstaff78

07-21-2006, 11:06 PM

Mattie - just a little friendly ribbing. A gal in a section I used to work for was an Auburn grad. We still kid each other when our paths cross, though she's gotten the best of me the last two years (sigh!).

And don't disparage UGA, I mean y'all's mascot is just an overgrown vulture with delusions of grandeur!!

MD: things went downhill so fast because we were not far from the bottom

Me: You got that right. I remember my parents coming up and getting taken out to dinner. Was that ever an answer to prayer. What was that little cafe on the square, or downtown. Served the best rolls you ever ate.

mdillon

07-21-2006, 11:12 PM

city cafe. still there. little lady with bunned hair, pencil behind ear, and rouge so thick j2 could paint 2 pics with, has been there for 137 years.

md

mcmstaff78

07-22-2006, 01:12 AM

MD: city cafe

Me: Ooh, scary, that was what I was thinking but there are so many City Cafes I've come across that I thought I was just merging memories. Wait, are those hellicopters. What? What?! Hey, you guys can't do that...you can't come in here...no, get away, get a.........

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 02:00 AM

SAamy:didn't necessarily consider themselves professional musicians.

84: I thought they were good...and boy oh boy that Ellen..."whew!"http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 02:02 AM

MAtt:it was like nothing we had ever seen or heard. Me and the Alliecat and one other person with a guitar had led worship in a small church--no microphones--- before we came to Auburn. Guitar/choruses were radical at the time. This group just blew us away.

84: I had one Maranatha Music tape (no relationship to MCM of course)...and the MCM Praise BAnd was a radical thing at Auburn in 1978...it had the whole campus buzzing...

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 02:03 AM

Mcm78: Mike

84: it was Mike- he turned into a Monk I beleiev

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 02:05 AM

78: Bob Martin, can't remember anyone else's names. Probably a good thing.

84: Bob "MARINE DRILL SARGEANT: Martin...aka Little Hitler...that guy? He made Mark Caulk look laid back...

john_r_jones

07-23-2006, 02:17 AM

He is in Paducah, Ky.
John

sameo

07-23-2006, 02:36 AM

teehee 84'/tikieboy...you are a ca-razy guy!!!

Sammy-O

mdillon

07-23-2006, 04:13 AM

84:"and boy oh boy that Ellen..."whew"

i don't know, tikie, nice looking but scary Stepford.

i thought the Praise Band was awesome. i mean with all the scenic polyester shirts, it was like wide screen before its time, ya know.

md

matt_hatter

07-23-2006, 04:37 AM

78 said: And don't disparage UGA, I mean y'all's mascot is just an overgrown vulture with delusions of grandeur!!

hehe, come over this year and watch "tiger" fly from the upper deck and hit the AU emblem on the 50 yard line, as we all yell WAAAARRRRR EAGLE.! It is a sight to behold, really. Funny thing, though, with really big games like AU-GA, they won't let the eagle fly because of the overhead camera cable that runs across the stadium, so we'll see. SEC football, it is all good, eh?

Oh--"Ellen"? Heck, I was married all of 1 month and the Allie Cat was poking me in the ribs during the initial outreach when "Ellen" was singing. "Close your mouth boy, we're in church." "whew" indeedhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif

jbkrems

07-23-2006, 05:01 AM

JohnR:

Who is in Paducah?

A friend of a friend is pastoring out there, too.

miltietoast

07-23-2006, 02:09 PM

Oh--"Ellen"? Heck, I was married all of 1 month and the Allie Cat was poking me in the ribs during the initial outreach when "Ellen" was singing. "Close your mouth boy, we're in church." "whew" indeed
mattie were you googling before it was popular?Maybe oogling?Yeah, the praise band would sing then Bob Weiner would walk up to the young men and say I have a word of knowledge, you have a spirit of lust.He could work the system.

ginger1

07-23-2006, 02:30 PM

He would walked up to the guy and say you have spirit of lust ???? Geez !
You know I remember I was in MCM, There were prebytry. Prosphesying to everybody, there is a friend that these 3 americans MCM did that on the microphone, I was so uncomfortable by what they did to this woman, saying about she was sleeping with when she was younger and talking about lust for everybody to hear.
I went up and complained to the pastor, thats embarassing and its wrong. The next one, they stop the microphone, they did it privately .

matt_hatter

07-23-2006, 02:35 PM

The Praise Band was sooooo cool--yea, Miltie, until 'da man hopped up there with that lavaler microphone and started singing flatter than a flapjack. He always could ruin a good thing.

miltietoast

07-23-2006, 03:33 PM

singing flatter than a flapjack?
I do not remember that song could you hum a few bars?

mcmstaff78

07-23-2006, 07:04 PM

Well, the praise band was *much* better live than on that first LP. C'mon, guys, I mean I tried listening to it Friday night, it is really bad!

But, no, they were good in concert. I think the line-up had changed a bit from the first LP to in the late 70s.

84: Bob "MARINE DRILL SARGEANT: Martin...aka Little Hitler...that guy? He made Mark Caulk look laid back...

Me: Yeah, Bob was the "pastor" at Lexington when I was there. Fun times, man, fun times!

sameo

07-23-2006, 08:05 PM

Did you ever get to experience hearing Mike and Randy Rothwell(brothers) sing together? now that was heavenly! It was beautiful...the way their voices blended.

The LP that you speak of, MCM...you mean the one with the song "The Race" on it?

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 09:07 PM

SAmeo:teehee 84'/tikieboy...you are a ca-razy guy!!!
Tikie: Ain't I though...http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/yawn.gif

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 09:11 PM

MD:i don't know, tikie, nice looking but scary Stepford.

84:...some like em hot...some like em cold...some like em in the pot nine days old

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 09:12 PM

Matt:until 'da man hopped up there with that lavaler microphone and started singing flatter than a flapjack.

84: So we they PB is in our Cafeteria/dinner area in the frat House- max 1500 square feet...the band was great but then Bob is shouting and screaming into mic throuh the amp system..c.razyy...and I do remember him singing into the lav...weird...sometimes he was doing when he was sitting in the crowd

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 09:12 PM

mcmstaff78

07-23-2006, 09:43 PM

Boy, mentioning Mike Rothwell just jogged another memory crystal loose in the ol' noggin. He was the worship leader in Athens when I first started going there. Actually, I think I probably *did* here him and Randy sing together.

Sameo: The LP that you speak of, MCM...you mean the one with the song "The Race" on it?

Me: No, I think that was the second LP they put out. The one I have is the first one, from '76 I think.

sameo

07-23-2006, 09:55 PM

Ah,MCM78, ok---b/c the 2nd album was much more professionally done.(do you have the 2nd one?)It was done more like 78-79. I had forgotten Mike was in Athens...so right you are. And the Praise band had changed members in 77 or 78? anyone remember...about then.

Tikie, what year did "Ellen" the obvious gorgeous beauty queen(hehe) come to your fraternity? she was part of the next Praise band after the first one.
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84:"and I do remember him singing into the lav...weird...sometimes he was doing when he was sitting in the crowd."

LOL, Tik--I remember that too-and all of a sudden---it's like where'd that voice come from?! hehe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LOL--Mdillon! Poor "Ellen"-a "Pretty Stepford wife?" what a meany you are!!! I bet if she ever see's you again she's gonna beat you up!

mdillon

07-23-2006, 09:56 PM

84:...some like em hot...some like em cold...some like em in the pot nine days old

LMCOhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

mdillon

07-23-2006, 10:06 PM

84:...some like em hot...some like em cold...some like em in the pot nine days old

LMCOhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

mdillon

07-23-2006, 10:09 PM

sameo-"I bet if she ever see's you again she's gonna beat you up!"

she'll never find me. I'm too low realm. she's prolly living up in them gated compounds somewhere. however, you're right, I might come across her if she needs me to build a bunch of new closets for her Laura Ashley collection.

md

matt_hatter

07-23-2006, 10:10 PM

SAmeo:teehee 84'/tikieboy...you are a ca-razy guy!!!
Tikie: Ain't I though...

Sameo, you and "tikieboy" are making me sick. Where's JBK, I need (1)prayer or (2)some Pepto.

As the angel said to the two house painters who were watering down the paint: "REPAINT, YOU THINNERS!"

Matt

sameo

07-23-2006, 10:31 PM

Mdillon---OH...my bad, you said she was a "SCARY Stepford wife"...that's even worse. If I find out where you live I'm going to tell "Ellen." hehe

Matty-leave me and tikie alone!heehee

maranatha1984

07-23-2006, 11:53 PM

Sameo:Tikie, what year did "Ellen" the obvious gorgeous beauty queen(hehe) come to your fraternity? she was part of the next Praise band after the first one.

Oct 78: she was not only beautiful BTW she was REALLY SMART also...http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

In fact as far as I was concerned they could have done away with the PB and let her sing a solo...nah forget that...just let her stand up there would have been enough

coppertree

07-24-2006, 12:56 AM

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Hi All Catching up - Th Praise band was grand. Ellen was a dear, sweet person, ; she was kind. Her father had written Tenn. Waltz. I hope she came out of this ok.}

lablady2

07-24-2006, 02:37 AM

Bob Martin. I went to college with his wife, Pat, in the post-Maranatha years (1990s. She and I graduated with nursing degrees in the same year. I believe they are still in Paducah. Bob was an editor for some local publication for a time, but that's been a few years ago.

mdillon

07-24-2006, 02:44 AM

coppertree "Ellen" was from Arkansas and I think her dad wrote the Arkansas Waltz. could be wrong. and you're right, she is a dear sweet person. know her and hubby well.

md

flo1151

07-24-2006, 11:33 AM

lablady2
the last time I heard about Bob Martin was that he was an asst pastor at Lone Oak Baptist church outside Paducah. I saw him when my mother passed away he was doing his hospital rounds and came to pray with us. He seemed to be doing well.
I am back from my Florida trip. Looking where I can get on the bus. We celebrated my wife's fathers 80th birthday. Some of our kids came to visit and we had a good time.

My father-in-law had a prepared speech(typicalof a man who spent much of his life on radio and TV) to deliver. In the speech he said that in his years if a person tells them you can trust them they are probably lying and that you should stay clear. This is the way I feel about most of the folks in EN. Although I was never in EN I am sure that with all the champ lingo and flattering speech that they are not to be trusted. I am proud to say that in my years of ministry I never referred to someone as champ.
I have a revised version of who cannot be trusted.
1. Anyone under the age of 45
2. Anyone who calls me champ.
3. Anyone who calls me brother(if you don't even know my name why am I trusting you)
4. Anyone by the name of Bob Weiner
5. Anyone who has a christian TV program.
6. Anyone who has all the answers
7. Anyone who says God told them more than 3 times in their life.
8. Anyone who sees the condition of the church and thinks its ok
9. Anyone who does not ride in the back of the bus(only kidding, but maybe not)
10. Anyone who does not have the scars from doing all the things above.

Do we learn from making bad choices? Sometimes. And we are all the wiser. Sometimes not and we are even more foolish than when we were younger.

I will try to catch up to the bus but you got to tell me where you are headed. I hope somewhere where the air is thin and clean, not to some stale stifling hot sweatbox. The bus does have air conditioning? I will need to upgrade to business class. I have a card from Phil B. travel.

mcmstaff78

07-24-2006, 12:09 PM

Sameo, I remember when the 2nd LP came out but for whatever reason didn't buy it (at least I don't still have it and I don't recall buying it). Maybe because I think I had a few tapes of them "live" and thought it was redundant. Who can remember?

Yes, I knew they changed personnel. In fact, I think only the Rothwells were left from the original band (and they weren't married when the first LP was put out). I think it was '77 when they changed lineups.

Flo, I like your list. Gotta admit all these things send up warning flags in my mind as well. I'll add another big one: anyone who says "I've got a word for you" and its like "Thus saith the Lord God..."

(Message edited by MCMStaff78 on July 24, 2006)

john_r_jones

07-24-2006, 12:35 PM

One of the last times I heard that I said I have a word for you-Shhhh.
WAB

mdillon

07-24-2006, 12:41 PM

flo, the Phil B. card comes with 3 days supply of quarters for Pacman and one Disney ride.
welcome back, BROTHER

md

maranatha1984

07-24-2006, 01:02 PM

Copper:I hope she came out of this ok.}

Tikie: I am in touch with Ellen...she is fine...a real sweetheart and gem...she and her husband (you know him of course) are doing well and they occasionally lurk here...she told me "I was reading your blog..."laddy te da te daddy" one morning and then "spewed coffee" when I got to the part entitled "ELLEN"...lets just say I (Tikie) got an e-mail that ended in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think she would mind me posting this...hmmm...more trouble from Ellen I think...

matt_hatter

07-24-2006, 01:22 PM

Flo, my brother, God told me to post to you. Me and Bob Weiner got a word to start a TV station and really need you Champ to man the camera, as we have the answers for the world. I'm driving today, OK?

Matt

jesusisawesome

07-24-2006, 01:29 PM

Matt, shhhhhh

sameo

07-24-2006, 03:15 PM

LOL...JIA!!

Welcome back Flo!

miltietoast

07-24-2006, 03:37 PM

I thought some of those praise band ladies might be in the market for a three three- teheheh

maranatha1984

07-24-2006, 05:15 PM

FLO: List of people not to trust

Tikie: Whew...I wish I had had that in my cotton pickin hands in 78....

matt_hatter

07-24-2006, 05:19 PM

Miltie, playing dirty are you? One could say you have graduated to a six six, one more six, and well, beastie boy.

miltietoast

07-24-2006, 05:32 PM

I can't help it, I have a desire to be nice but something springs up and yall pray fer me cause I still got's the cravin!

mcmstaff78

07-24-2006, 10:16 PM

Matt: really need you Champ

Me: Are you sure Bob wasn't saying "chump" and y'all were just mishearing him?

flo1151

07-26-2006, 01:51 AM

I believe I heard chump

sameo

07-26-2006, 02:21 AM

Miltie IS beastie boy! good one, Matty!

Flo, I think I heard "chump" a few times too!

Tikie--what has gotten into you lately? hehe and here I thought you were the good one!

Well, I feel like a rock star...typing this with my big sunglasses on....thinking this might cut down on the dark circles and red glazed eyes from being on this computer so much.(u guys should try it-cuts the glare) <sigh> I keep thinking if those super models who've done cocaine can still look good despite it...then maybe I can get over my dark puffy circles. But then again, I'm nearing 50. OK--music...that's right...well, this is kind of music related, right?

Lalalala.....to get back on topic!

Same-O