Humorrhoids and other observations from pains in the hiney

[john_r_jones]

Give yourselves plenty of room here it'll get crowded after awhile.

The bunny

[matt_hatter]

YIKES DOUBLE BARREL BUNNY TRAILS...
Talk about exponential growth... the religious spirits are crying uncle!!!
Dillon on the girls basketball team? With his hair, and those girls, it begs the question...Who da girls???

Matt
Matt

[miltietoast]

JRJ add this to your recepies
Rolling Rock slushie --take one six pack put in freezer 1 hour.Pour remaining unfrozen liquid in glass,throw away slush and bottles drink remnants of six bottles.

[mdillon]

hairy legs, mattie, hairy legs

miltie get some of speak's soco and have lablady give you an i.v. instead

md

[miltietoast]

md you could probably use a double slushie after fratin away with them teachers.Which is worse the teachers or the students.

[mdillon]

I can get teachers to drink

md

[john_r_jones]

Miltie,
We keep a refrigerated horse around instead.

Thebunny

[mdillon]

john, where do you put the tap?

md

[lablady2]

I thought some of you might be interested in attending this meeting sponsored by Weiner Ministries:

Oct 3 - Oct 6 Dallas, TX
Power to get Wealth Conference
Host church: LEAD
Host pastor: John Kelly

Whoever gets wealthy first buys Rolling Rock for everyone.

[miltietoast]

the remnant is the best part
Your horse would founder
I am trying hot pickled eggs,peanuts and a glass of homemade red wine

[john_r_jones]

All scatalogical humor aside I can't enjoy alcohol with you gentlemen, it disagrees with my battery operated gizzard. My wife laments that we can't open a bottlle of Champagne like we used to for dinner. We had the cheap stuff Cava, Spanish bubbly.

Thebunny

[john_r_jones]

So as you ladies are talking about girls basketball and your kids, my kids always teased me about reminding them about Balou the bear. Take me home daddah!

Thebear, uh bunny

[matt_hatter]

Balou the bear.

Balou...wasn't he kind of a bohmemian beatnik? Kind of like you?

[john_r_jones]

Another one of my aliases-Bo Hemia.
Thebunny

[miltietoast]

bo-hernia the apostate from hose b?
where do you put the tap?

[john_r_jones]

On yer "Tap" shoes of course!
It's one of the bear necessities.
Thedancingbear

[mdillon]

john, please don't go with the bear analogies because, ... you know

[mcmstaff78]

LL2: I thought some of you might be interested in attending this meeting sponsored by Weiner Ministries:

Me: Why don't we get a bus full of people and go and heckle? We could all get on the front rows and and not clap, not cheer, and groan at every manipulative, ludicrous thing he says (well, that might be a lot of groaning, but it would be worth it).

[lablady2]

mcm: I'm up for it. I can heckle with the best of them, but I really have only one desire. I want to tousle Bob Weiner's hair. I want to "lift the hood", so to speak. I want to see if it moves, if it's real, or if he uses Ron Popeil's hair color in a can. I could forgive everything if I could just tousle his hair or remove the lifts from his shoes.

[maranatha1984]

LAB: thought some of you might be interested in attending this meeting sponsored by Weiner Ministries:

Oct 3 - Oct 6 Dallas, TX
Power to get Wealth Conference
Host church: LEAD
Host pastor: John Kelly

Whoever gets wealthy first buys Rolling Rock for everyone

84/Tikie: Well Tremont Tabernacle in Boston was sponsoring Bob...in May, I swear I almost went...but then I realized...do I want to spend time with Bob W or my kids...one guess as to who one out?????

[matt_hatter]

"do I want to spend time with Bob W or my kids...one guess as to who one out?????"

Heck, cleaning the toilets would win out with me given the choice between the two.

[lablady2]

If Bob would give me his toupee to clean my toliets with afterwards, I would definitely go.

[freedom43]

I found the TikTok blog story about Bob Weiner harping on cloting to the leaders to be really ironic. Mind you I haven't seen him in over 20 years, but his clothing was horrible- in my view. Maybe they were expensive, but my recollection is that he wore awful double breated suit jackets and ugly zip up ankle boots that didn't really match his clothes. H-I-D-E-O-U-S. He had some nerve talking to anyone about style and clothing. I would be afraid to see him now. The idea gets me all befuddled. I would definitely need to drink something in the family of brews before attempting...Yuengling maybe...sorry guys, I can't do Rolling Rock.

[matt_hatter]

43 said:I would definitely need to drink something in the family of brews before attempting...Yuengling maybe...sorry guys, I can't do Rolling Rock.

Alright a Yuengling fan! Oldest brewery in America, right? Drink a 12 pack and take a peek at this:
http://www.youthnow.org/home.php?p=ministries

OK, loblolly, please settle this for me...that hair...real or memorex???

Matt

[miltietoast]

from bobs website--God moved Bob and Rose to found Maranatha Churches and Campus Ministries, now with locations on 150 campuses in 20 nations. Is he puling a krems and claiming it still exists,or is he claiming MorningStar and EN, or did he forget his meds?
From the picture Rose is still the head and bob is "the little toe on the left foot" How many times did he tell that lie?He thought Or she thought they were the brain

[matt_hatter]

Miltie, the ramblings of a madman......and woman.

[matt_hatter]

Miltie, the ramblings of a madman......and woman.

[lablady2]

I always thought Rose was the brains behind the whole deal. Bob was just the wind (literally...just wind) beneath her wings.

Here's something I never understood and still don't. I understand how those of us who were young (18-25) got involved with Maranatha, but I cannot imagine how the older couples (Paducah) got roped in. There's no way that I would buy into that malarky in my 40s or 50s.

Matt: I'm not sure about the hair. I just always found it mesmerizing (kind of like pink sawdust), and I couldn't quit staring at it because it never moved. Granted, there wasn't a whole lot else to look at........

[mdillon]

freedom- Bob found his haven amid seventies stacks and bellbottoms because it made him taller and reluctantly moved into the eighties only going so far as stovepipe pants and boots. Never saw him in a pair of loafers.

Speaking of the "dress code" at an early MLTS, I'm thinking Cookeville or M'Boro circa 79? The ushers of course were commanded to wear "ties" (this was right before the onslaught of Izod) and my friend Bernie Boudreaux, being the ever so non-conformist ex-hippy, shows up with a western bolo tie and drove Bob crazy because he never took it off.

md

p.s. mattie thanks for the twelver

[lablady2]

Matt: a mad woman? You say the sweetest things. I mean it. I'm blushing.

[freedom43]

Matt -- oy -- thanks for bringing back some scary memories. I faced it sans brew. Daytime drinking makes me too sleepy.

My opinion on hair: it's gotta be a rug. His hair is too thick to start all at once that high up on his forehead. I don't need a vision from God to visualize his baldness underneath it. Message to Bob: go bald gracefully. No bad combovers or toupes.

Also, I followed the link to Maranatha Publications. They're selling Rose's bible studies from $9.95 to $16.95. How much do you think I could get for my old ones on eBay -- heresy and answers included!?

[lablady2]

Funny usher story but a bit embarrassing. If you embarrass easily, stop here.

I guess the ushers had their orders not to let people leave the arena while the Annointed Ones were on stage. I had to leave to nurse a baby. These guys wouldn't let me out. I finally told one that I got "a visit from my friend." That poor kid couldn't let me out fast enough.

[mdillon]

oh, btw, freedom, RR is just the Firm Foundations- some people can't get past it but its also a good refresher every now and then. Some of us have moved on to the Prep. of the Bride.

md

[lablady2]

md: Preparation of the Bride. What a blast from the past! I am rofl. Sometimes you are just too funny.

[freedom43]

md: I guess his height and platform boots should have been the dead giveaway back then for all of us that we were dealing with a Napoleon complex personality.

I also noticed that Rose does not seem to be wearing Laura Ashley in the picture. Is that crushed velvet or something from Chico's? Also, her face looks a little fuller. Is she hiding some hips behind Bob?

[maranatha1984]

lab:If Bob would give me his toupee to clean my toliets with afterwards, I would definitely go.

84:http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[lablady2]

freedom: Those aren't hips, those are pockets full of cash.

I remember that some friends of mine who were in leadership had to go to some big hoohah in Gainesville in the summer of 1981 or 1982. I think Keith Green was killed during that week. Anyway, when she got back she told me that she and her husband didn't have money to get their daughter new sneakers to start school in, but during the leadership meeting, an offering was taken so Rose could have a new microwave.

[mdillon]

lablady me and sameo have a pact that anyone who hints toward that godawful month from hell we will come and wallpaper your house with FirmFound. and make you eat stale deli sandwiches for 30 days straight while listening to nonstop cassette tapes of Rushdoony.

be keerful

md

[lablady2]

md: And this would make my life different how?

[maranatha1984]

Free:...heresy included?

84:you have it backwards...they charge more to EXCLUDE the heresy...I mean excluding heresy would mean HEAVY duty editing

84: TO ALL: Someone was kind enough (A FACTNET member) to send me a copy of original Redbook. Just to check it out...I spent...I hate to admit it $ 12.95 on the "new updated" copyrite 2002 Bible Studies for a Firm Foundations...anyone care to guess how much editing had gone on in order to make BFF comply with "standard Evangelical Theology)??

A couple of paragraphs tacked onto the Lordship saying " we should never submit souly to one person.

OTHER THAN THAT NO CHANGES: God's Perfect Choice untouched...
Of course I probably bought the only copy the guy sold in the last five years...

[freedom43]

84: you have it backwards...they charge more to EXCLUDE the heresy...I mean excluding heresy would mean HEAVY duty editing

Freedom43: Ah -- my bad. I thought they got called on some of the bad stuff/crap by the cult watchers in the 1980s and had theorhetically cleaned it up a bit. Sounds like they haven't (and I did assume there was still some heresy) and that the new and improved books have all the same garbage.

Right now, I'm sitting in my office picturing a drawing of roots with demons dangling. And, on that note, I'm going to lunch.

[mcmstaff78]

LL2: summer of 1981 or 1982. I think Keith Green was killed during that week.

Me: That was the summer of 1982. I was a pretty big Keith Green fan and his death hit me hard. I had just graduated seminary and was pastoring four small UM churches in north Georgia.

And, yes, that hair *must* be a rug. It's too think *and* too dark to be otherwise.

[lablady2]

mcm: thanks for giving me the year. People think I'm kidding when I say I can't remember stuff about Maranatha during the years 1981-1983. It's such a big blur. I believe we were already out by then.

I remember going to a Keith Green concert. His death (in a plane that was over its weight load, as I recall) sort of confirmed what I was beginning to realize. Faith has its place, but it doesn't often overcome the natural laws that govern the universe. I think about Keith G. sometimes and wonder what he might be doing today had he survived. Music, for sure, but what kind?

You'd think with the kind of money B.W. has, he could get a great looking rug. Human hair, the whole nine yards. I think he'd look great in a shag.

[mcmstaff78]

LL2: Faith has its place, but it doesn't often overcome the natural laws

Me: I remember all the discussion after he was killed (your recollection is correct, overload plane giving a tour of their compound) about what he had done wrong, why his faith was weak, etc., etc., so that God "took" him. What a crock. He violated the natural laws (or his pilot did, who should have known better), they all died. Yeah, sometimes God does work genuine miracles (not those leg lengthening ones, as 84 might say), but man, I hadn't seen anyone walking on air in my time!

AS to your memory, well, this place jogs mine a lot. Ask MD. I keep remembering lots of stuff about him!! LOL.

[lablady2]

mcm: This is the conclusion I came to regarding "claiming a miracle." Rare, very rare. And that's a good thing. I really don't think I want a capricious God who can suddenly decide that the sun WON'T be available tomorrow or who decides that gravity isn't such a great thing after all. I think sometimes we expect God to provide the "miracles" that we should be providing for one another.

But...what do I know.

[miltietoast]

lablady said--But...what do I know.
Where is krems when you need him? Oh taking his bar.Lord help him,we need some more lawyer jokes

[flo1151]

Hi all,
One of my most telling stories on Bob was in a staff meeting and we were talking about expanding probably phase II and we were coming up with ways to fund it. One of the ways of course was sacrificial giving. We were saying that the kids were stretched too thin. Bob's response was and I quote "These stinking kids have money". What a telling line, and we for the most part dropped our heads and said nothing.

I do believe his hair is real still just colored. He stopped by my house in Atlanta about 7 years ago. His daughter Stephanie was living with us at the time while she found housing around Oglethorpe University. He needed a shower and I saw him drying it. It just had a little receding action going on and was definitly colored. He told me I should put some color on mine. I told him I like my grey/white hair just fine. He still is the same Bob. He probably would be fine if he wasn't a preacher.
I still wouldn't trust him but if he was a business man making 300-500k a year I could stomach him a little better. He is just the little archbishop Napoleon with a poor selfimage. I am glad that I am not him.
By the way our time with Stephanie was quite good and she is a very sweet girl. She has gotten married since and I understand it is to someone in the other morningstar ministries.

I went to hear Bob speak at Larry Tomczak's church not long after his visit. It was the same message, same stories,and same goal,(to put money in Bob's pocket). I have spoken to him once since. It was to tell him the truth as I saw it. World domination is a nice goal if you are a dictator. Not if you are a gospel minister.

[lablady2]

I think Bob would probably very successful in the business world. I think he missed his calling.

You would expect Bob's dog-eat-dog behavior in that world, but in the world of ministering to wounded and vunerable people, it's a nightmare. I can remember hearing Bob speak about grace one night, and I remember thinking that it seemed almost painful to him, as if it wasn't something he believed in. And, obviously, it wasn't.

[flo1151]

lablady,
I heard him tell someone once that "You are ministering in that mercy gift" as if it was not a gift from God but a obstacle. Bob just never got why people disliked him so much. He was rude, arrogant and rubbed people the wrong way. I believe he saw in Rice his bizzaro world counterpart. Rice was tall good with people and everything Bob probably wanted to be. It was painful to watch some of his sermons. "If you don't walk in grace I'm going to kick your butt".

[coppertree]

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Hi All Catching up- Flo, your post about Bob , it touched me, thank you for being kind to him and speaking the truth to him. You were brave and kind; who knows, where it will go in his heart.}

[mdillon]

flo-"I believe he saw in Rice his bizzaro world counterpart"

I have swam the oceans and climbed the mountains in search of this articulation and flo, you have delivered it. praise be

md

[mdillon]

flo I saw Bob at a clergy conference in Atlanta in 96 and he spoke a word to me of encouragement that actually blew me away. I told him how much I appreciated him doing that. Years later I was in a crowd of bible school kids (invitation of a friend)and Bob was the guest speaker of the day. Same message, same testimonies, "Just the other day..." I was saddened really by what I was seeing a man who never really moved on. After he left the leaders came up and basically gave a disclaimer. Kinda tough watching that.

md

[flo1151]

mdillon,
the bizzarro world was not original as you probably know. But yes just the other day I was pastor of a church in Cape Girardeau mo. That is pretty sad. That was 30 years ago.

[mdillon]

yes, I know, but I'm afraid of having to explain how God speaks through Seinfeld

md

[flo1151]

was that God I thought it was Larry David

[mdillon]

question?- who was Joe's bizarro world counterpart?

md

[flo1151]

He does not have a bazzaro world counterpart he has an invisible cloaking device that allows him to time travel through various stages of maranatha and it's decendants.

[flo1151]

I keep telling you he does not have one

[mdillon]

Question- who was Joe Smith's bizzaro world counterpart?

Answer- Joe Smith

ding ding ding

the judges will accept your answer

[flo1151]

It's not everybody that can understand the complexities of the prophet joseph smith. Anyone that can talk about taking drugs and chewing dope and not crack a smile is allright in my book.

[mcmstaff78]

Flo: But yes just the other day I was pastor of a church in Cape Girardeau mo. That is pretty sad. That was 30 years ago.

Me: I'm guessing you knew Mark McClimmens, no? He was from Cape Girardeau before coming to Athens in '78.

[flo1151]

Yes I knew Mark. Is that a bad thing?

[mcmstaff78]

Flo: Yes I knew Mark. Is that a bad thing?

Me: Nope, just curious. Mark seemed to be a pretty good guy. He wasn't in Athens long before I left for M'boro, but he was a calm next to Rusty's storm.

[flo1151]

Mark and Pat were two of the nicest people you will meet. Mark was an english teacher at the local high school. He was one of Fred Poston's teachers. He helped with the music and was one of the leaders in the church. We had a very nice little church there with some great people. Most came from a catholic background. I never saw the comic side of him until he moved away and got a little more comfortable with himself. The last time I spoke to him was several years ago and he was in Houston.

[mcmstaff78]

Flo: Mark and Pat were two of the nicest people you will meet.

Me: Glad to hear he made it out alive. I really don't have all that many clear memories of him and Pat. I vaguely recall a cookout at their house in Athens the summer of '78. And I seriously am remembering the impression of him as a great balance to Rusty Russell.

[flo1151]

I don't know about a balance for Rusty. Rusty I think had some real issues. How would you like for your father to be a minister, and your brother-in-law to be your boss? I always thought that he was pushed into ministry. I recall a time early on when he didn't want to be a minister. He was my roommate in Paducah.
The balance thing seemed to crop up all the time . You would put a nice guy with a hard driver and vice-versa. It was like christian schizophrenia. Bottom line we didn't have enough experience to be very good at what we did. Bob tried to be a pastor a couple of times and didn't do very good.
It seems that we would have figured that out along the way. But didn't.

[miltietoast]

mdillon-- oh wise scool teacher what is a bizzaro?

[lablady2]

Have you checked out Rusty and Mildred's website? The PROPHET Rusty Russell. Just plain spooky. Makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

[flo1151]

rusty on his website (www.miraclelifeministries.org (http://www.miraclelifeministries.org) has "the prophets" schedule listed. With all the use of bishop and archbishop these days, I'm sure that we would have jumped on that wagon to take it to another level. what would you be mdillon?

[lablady2]

flo: That doesn't appear to be Rusty's website.
I think this is the link: www.miraclelifemin.org/ (http://www.miraclelifemin.org/)

[miltietoast]

Rusty prayed for my hand in Auburn.I had slammed a splinter straight down into my hand.The next day the doctor sliced open my hand pulled pieces of splinter out and stitched it up and after one week of infection started to heal up. The only miracle I saw was the doctor treated me for free because he was under the inpression that Maranatha was a Christian organization.I showed Rusty my hand he just looked at it and wandered off

[flo1151]

lablady,
you are probably right I was going from memory.

[mdillon]

Miltie-“what is a bizzaro”

Miltie check with the toast jr., the one that studied Family Guy in homeschool, and he’ll tell you what bizarro world is- from Seinfeld episode.

Flo-“With all the use of bishop and archbishop these days, I'm sure that we would have jumped on that wagon to take it to another level. what would you be mdillon?”

With my masterful skills in reaching foreign students (any person in Boulder over 13) my title of course would be “International Harvester”

md

[flo1151]

how bout superinternational harvester. has a nice ring.

[john_r_jones]

I have a friend in Great Britain, a Yorkshireman who is a prophet and has seen many miracles, real miracles. He's very quiet and plain spoken, a beekeeper by trade. We'd have a mens retreat and the men in the church we're trying to be pals with Grenville, and he'd do so in a very gentle way. He had a way of making everyone comfortable and accepted around him-supernaturally comfortable and then the peeing on the bushes junk didn't happen. He'd very humbly tell about speaking at a meeting in London at a Methodist meeting one evening just doing what God had called him to do. As he spoke he said he heard an odd clicking sound coming from the rear of the auditorium. As he went on for a few seconds he realized it was the sound of the folding chairs collapsing as the audience fell nder the power of the Holy Spirit, no hooplah, no music, no coats thrown, just him at the podium trying to share. The wave of the Holy Spirit gently swept across the stage and he held on to the podium for dear life. I think I remember hearing that several healings took place that night but mostly he told of how God had sovreignly moved in a quiet fashion unlike our past experience of hype. For whatever it's worth there are folks in the world moving in genuine Holy Spirit power who are just plain simple folks.

John

[flo1151]

lablady,
my sister still lives in Paducah. Haven't been back in about 4-5 years. She goes to David Cassidy's first church there. She and her then husband were founding members of that church. I believe it was called cornerstone.

[lablady2]

Ah, yes, Cornerstone.

I'm near Kentucky Lake, but I'm in Paducah often to take care of my father, who has chronic myologenous leukemia. Paducah grows but never changes. Were you in the fellowship here back in the day?

[flo1151]

I was there when we were at 2500 washington st. I could name the people that were in the fellowhip at the time. We could hold hands in a circle in a twelve by twelve room. Before Joe Smith ever came. I was 21 and the oldest beside Bob and Rose who were about 24.

[lablady2]

I love guessing games. Trouble is, between going under a school bus and aging, my memory is shot.

I was around during the 23rd Psalm days, but we made a detour to Carroll McCarroll's church for a few years before joining MCM.

I'm thinking.

[john_r_jones]

Yes but can you summon a tennis ball? Flo that would make a really great testimony. We laughed about that one this summer with the Cape bunch.

John

P.S Pizza Inn later?

[flo1151]

lablady
I was in the other band new song before marrying my Georgia Belle. I remember Carroll mccarroll and the twenty-third psalm

[john_r_jones]

Flo,
I found the photos of the New Song group I took at my folks house last fall.

John

[flo1151]

John ,
I don't have a clue what you are talking about. I probably did it but I don't remeber jog it please.

[lablady2]

Got it! Georgia was the tip-off.

Not sure we ever really met, but I'm always happy to know another survivor.

[flo1151]

That would be cool to see john. I bet I had long flowing dark brown locks.

[john_r_jones]

We went out to the KOW site in western McCracken county and took some publicity photos of the group one fall afternoon. Diane, and Mark, and You of course and another person or two I think. The polyester disco shirts will probably last in to the 30th century.

John

[gah51]

Flo, JRJ and md
I can't figure out this thing works. I'm going to bed. I'll get a lesson from Mrs "way younger than 52" tomorrow.

[flo1151]

They are in some landfill waiting to be dug up by a 22nd century christian musician.

[john_r_jones]

The tennis ball testimony was after we moved into the church building on Highland Blvd. Your favorite disciple gave a testimony of playing tennis one afternoon and the commanding the tennis ball to come back to him-which he said it did. This was of course a night when loads of parents were there and Bob W. rolled his eyes and went thermonuclear on him later. He was the same fellow we came upon in Pizza Inn after a meeting and sat down next to while he finished off a pizza and shared he'd come ther by faith with no money and we were the answer to his prayer, excused himself, got up and left.

John

[flo1151]

I have selective remembrance. Anything bad that ever happened to me I chose not to remember. By the way did he sleep with his eyes open?

[mdillon]

with skills like that he's probably huffin and puffin on teevee and living in a Mcmansion

[john_r_jones]

Yes he did.

John

[john_r_jones]

G'nite all,
Blessings to y'all.
John

[j2theperson]

***That doesn't appear to be Rusty's website.
I think this is the link: www.miraclelifemin.org/ (http://www.miraclelifemin.org/)***

Ugh. The guy may be a "prophet" but his website sucks. You'd think with all his supernatural powers he'd be able to find a webmaster who actually understands something about aesthetics and readability.

J2 is not impressed (though she does vaguely wonder why he has a "world clock" on his website).

[matt_hatter]

"J2 is not impressed (though she does vaguely wonder why he has a "world clock" on his website)."

And of course, the ever present: "Make a Donation" No vague wonderment there.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[lablady2]

That may be the tackiest website I've ever seen. I'm thinking next week he'll post an offer to mail out annointed hankies for a buck or two.

[mcmstaff78]

Well, Rusty was always pretty scary to me. I had one or "hootah" sessions with him (as '84 would call them), and found out stuff about myself I never knew. I often wonder if I didn't come away from those with more demons than when I started.

At anyrate, website is terrible.

[john_r_jones]

MCM, it's odd how the discernment people undress us and the Father in the Prodigal covered his son's shame. He wrapped his cloak about him and walked him into the house. The woman at the well when ministered to by Jesus went and told everyone I've just met a man who told me everything I've ever done it wasn't in shame that she did it. When I hear of people being shamed about their sin by someone who discerns I wonder who's side their on?

John

[sameo]

Thank you, John!!

[maranatha1984]

Flo: "These stinking kids have money". What a telling line, and we for the most part dropped our heads and said nothing.

84: What we should have done is all stood up and walked out, or better yet kicked him in the gut and then done so...sigh...oh well...

Flo:if he was a business man making 300-500k ...

84: Ken Lay Like maybe...or more likely fronting a Ponzi scheme...I will address the "older Bob" with a small vignette in my blog...it would be sad...if not pitaful...if he were NOT so unrepentent...lets face it there is some bad brain chemistry there...

[freedom43]

Yeah -- that line "these stinking kids have money" spoke volumes to me as well. Talk about perspective. Christ died for those "stinking kids" and every one of them is precious to Him -- how about worrying about that instead of how much money they can put in your coffers?! With an attitude like that no wonder Bob and Maranatha ran rough shod over people. Such users and abusers.

[maranatha1984]

MD:Joe's bizarro world counterpart?

84: Leo Lawson...

[sameo]

freedom:"Christ died for those "stinking kids" and every one of them is precious to Him -- how about worrying about that"

Amen, freedom!

Great points Flo and Tikieboy! I'll go with "kick him" first, tikie..then walk out!

sammy-o

[maranatha1984]

Md:Mark McClimmens?

84: Mark was great...s "good person"...Rusty...well Rusty was constantly trying to "live up to his Bro- in - laws" style, results and activity levels...why anyone would want to is now beyond me...but most of Rusty;'s problems and weirdness lay there...

[maranatha1984]

Sammy:I'll go with "kick him" first, tikie..then walk out!

84: A regular pinata he would have been with me and you after him...http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[matt_hatter]

A regular pinata

A small pinata.

[matt_hatter]

A regular pinata

A small pinata.

[mcmstaff78]

JRJ: it's odd how the discernment people undress us and the Father in the Prodigal covered his son's shame

Me: Well put. A very telling observation.

Lot's of deep seated inferiority stuff going on in the Weiner family circle, that's for sure. The shame of it all is, as '84 has pointed out, is the apparent utter lack of repentance. God have mercy!

[wildwood_]

Greetings All! I'm never going to catch up... I keep clicking on these odd links...and vaguely wondering if my computer antivirus programs are current. Still...

So, that's Bob &amp; Rose...given the confusion of my "tree" roots...they look a lot like I remember Brother Jed &amp; Sister Cindy...only sadly tired.

It's also very sad to me (and makes me angry also if a hungry soul stumbles upon them) that JESUS is in the small print on these websites. For me that's my "guide" if a "Christian website" spends most of its screen NOT mentioning the LOVE OF GOD AS SHOWN THROUGH JESUS...then it's just another site trying to "sell" something man-made...therefore you get what "you pay for"...NOT WHAT THE BLOOD OF JESUS BOUGHT...AND THE LORD OFFERS US BY GRACE TO US FOR FREE....grrr.

Thundering here! Means it's cooling off! Yippee...also means connection will probably drop out...maybe...a wise woman would turn her computer off...well, lightning isn't too close yet...http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif Yes, it is...

[maranatha1984]

J2:"world clock"

84: Interesting, I clicked on the world clock and it went right to a presentation of the earth...only the earth was FLAT

[maranatha1984]

Matt:A small pinata.

84: would you like fries with that?...and I can supersize you for another buck...

[john_r_jones]

Could we get "The Colbert Report" to do an EN segment?

Thebunny

[speakword2004]

The Colbert report did a whole interview with Tony Camplolo. Now that was fun!

[john_r_jones]

Campolo has a sense of humor I take it?

Thebunny

[john_r_jones]

I thought I'd throw an anecdote in here about faith and our doing things in life. I read elsewhere about prepping for a test and it reminded me of a test I took several years ago.

Not quite twenty years ago I decided t get a pilot's license. I took instructuion at the Van Nuys flight center at the busiest general avaiation airport in the world. I had taken instruction prior to this but my flight instructor wasn't really interested in instruction, just building hours. So to make a long story short I studied and passed my written exam and took primary flight instruction.

I came to the time when my three legged cross country solo was at hand. I'd prepped inside out and so on the day I took off into the wild blue unforcast winds and a forest fire conspired against me. The wind made my travel time longer then expected no problemo. On the final leg home from Fresno to Van Nuys I had an unusual incident occur. The ground became obscured by smoke from a forest fire and night was falling I was a student insrtument pilot navigating around mountains. I was in radar contact with L.A. center and as I talked with them getting VFR flight following. The controller asked in his most calm voice "Cherokee Niner-Seven Xray would you like to declair an emergency?" Unexpected but it was a sticky situation for a student pilot, no I said I know where I am I'll just need to proceed into Van Nuys on an instrument approach. Under radar control like an instrument rated pilot I flew home to Van Nuys and landed at night in windy conditions uneventfully. The chief pilot was there waiting on me his comment "Hurry up and get your crap outta the plane the folks are here who rented it for a trip."

My preparedness saved my skin and alot of embarrassment, God's grace was with me that day for sure. One final note, on the day of my check ride with the Feds I noted to the examiner that a front was coming in and I wouldn't fly VFR on a day like this. He said "Ok" and said well let's get up there and see what we see. Al, the check pilot was the most thorough examiner there was.(He also knew my flight instructor had put me through hell getting me ready for this check ride) I preflighted the aircraft, got us suited-up and made the radio calls to take off.

We headed out west of Van Nuys and Al said "I've got the plane" he told me to put on the instrument visor and fly the aircraft in a 180 dgree bank to the left and level out. I did and then he said give me a 270 degree bank to the right and level out I did all this under the hood and then Al said "I've got the plane, take off your hood." I did and when I looked out we were in clouds, the low scud of an approaching front. In the turns under the "Hood" Al had wanted to see if I had gotten disoriented. He asked, "Can you get to Van Nuys from here?" I said sure I dialed in the VOR at the end of the runway and began to track the radial inbound, again instrument approach, not something student pilots do.

As I flew in making the radio calls Al leaned back into my chart case and rummaged around for my log book. He said as he noted in my book that he was passing me today but that I shouldn't tell anyone about my twenty minute check ride. He fudged and put .6 hrs in the logbook. When we landed and taxied into the parking spot Al said, "I'll go talk to your instructor and let him know you didn't bust your check ride." Short check rides mean the examiner saw the student do something so eggregious that he couldn't allow the student to fly on this attempt.

I took my flight instrutor out for lunch that day and we had a good laugh, we've stayed friends all these years. He comes by to visit on occasion in the front office of an airliner. I felt a sense of God's pleasure that day, a day when He blessed the work of my hands.

John

[john_r_jones]

I suppose it would be self evident given the title of our little thread here that irreverence is the motif. Our mendicant church is one of laughter being the best medicine, though I suppose you could OD. on it. To all y'all out there if your addicted to religion it's time to go on the wagon. I found freedom in Jesus and it isn't in a bottle, a pill, a joint or a syringe, it isn't even in a sermon. it is in the person of Jesus Christ who expects me to foul-up more than I do. Behavior mod is a front and bondage itself, get whole on the inside and let that do your talking for you. I've found a truth in the world that there are two kinds of folks: It isn't conservatives or liberals, saved or unsaved, loud or quiet, but the aware or the unaware. It basically boils down to the reality of I'm an <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font>, you're an <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font>. It's time to wake-up kids.
John

[mdillon]

thanks for the good word bunderthunny. check out the title to my new book:

Clackerhole Thy Name is Dillon

might have you read over the manuscripts because there is SO much editing to do http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

md

[mdillon]

sameo: miltie will be here shortly. he is taking notes because he wants to cast a new vision

md

[sameo]

John:"It basically boils down to the reality of I'm an •••, you're an •••. It's time to wake-up kids."

SameO: Woohoo! I'm an ***! I'm sooo relieved. Thanks John!

Let's go fishin' Miltie

[coppertree]

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Oh John, you surprise me again.. so This trumps I"m Ok , You 're Ok ? lolol http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif}

[sameo]

LOL---good one, Copper!!

Thanks Dillon.(my original message was above Dillon's but b/c I am trying to be good now, I changed my 3 letter word to all *'s.)Exasperating.

I will definitely buy your book, Dill. YOU know I love that word "Clackerhole."haha I reeeally do!

Millltieeeee----any visions yet?? is RaeAnn gonna email me back or is she mad at me ?LOL

John, I really did like your lil' speech up there. Made my day!

[mdillon]

sameo:"but b/c I am trying to be good now..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

md

[sameo]

LOLOL....whuuttt???


;-P u crack me uppp, dilly!heeheehee

[matt_hatter]

If one only knew how little drink and worldy pleasures this old shell can tolerate. Freedom? The ability to speak openly without the shards of broken religion pricking my old body as I roll on the floor and guffaw at like minded fools.

How's that for my best JRJ immitation?

[mdillon]

mattie that had the eloquence of Jethro reesite'n shakespeare

(i'm kiddin' man- btw, the blog rocks)

md

[sameo]

Matt:"How's that for my best JRJ immitation"

I thought it was grand!(I hope you liked it jrj)ha Good job, Matty ol' boy!

Ouch-those "prickly shards..."

sameo

[matt_hatter]

"But soft, wut's over yonder by the winder pane, it is the east and sameo is blockin the sun."

Jethro

Rooster's crowing, got them biscuits and possum gravy ready, Granny? HOT DOG!

[mdillon]

i KNEW i could conjure up that spirit!!!

ohmysweetplasticjesus mattie, i am busting my gut http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gifhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[sameo]

Jethro Bodine...I'm coming to beat you up!

I know whut you're sayin' and I'm not even gonna go there.(hehe) Tryin' sooo hard to be good!

Hush on up, Dilly!

IS Miltie still trying to "cast" for cryin' out loud? geez-

[john_r_jones]

I also hope this doesn't denigrate into a nyah, nyah session nanny nanny booboo! Jesus' reputation was shot to heck because of the company He kept. He called the sinners to His table and that was significant in the extreme. It showed He approved of them, that they meant something to him. I just helped my youngest daughter move out into circumstances that I as a dad I am less than thrilled with. The young fellow of whom she's enamored needs a Father figure a dad also. So I get to love them in this situation it isn't in my comfort zone at all. We took them shopping for food and such to get set-up and helped them get it in their place. As a minister of the gospel I intend to grab as many people that I can get my hands on and love them whatever their sin may be or not as the case may be. As for me I've always been an embarrassment for MCM or others of such a persuation I'm not a sharp. If they're laughing and in so doing forget their pain for a time so be it, if they're weeping and in need of consolation, again so be it. Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, serve the Lord with gladness. One of the hallmarks of Judaism before the exile was the feasts and celebrations they engaged in. In Jesus' day they were nonexistant, or relegated to obscurity. Celebration is for me the reality of being liberated by the inner working of the Holy Spirit and being free to be me.

Thebunny

Nanny Nanny booboo!

[sameo]

So glad you said "Nanny Nanny booboo," John!LOL

I feel better now!

[miltietoast]

"But soft, wut's over yonder by the winder pane, it is the east and sameo is blockin the sun."
Do you hear what I hear? I hear a frap by yonder window pane

[lablady2]

jrj: "circumstancs that I as a dad am less than thrilled with". What a loving dad you are. It would be easy if those darned kids would create circumstances we could be thrilled with. I bet God thinks that about us a kazillion times a day, yet, He hangs with us. Lovin' us when we deserve it least.

[john_r_jones]

Thanks ll2,
the nanny kinda adds an air of sophistication Huh?

Thebunny

[lablady2]

Yes, it does, and it makes you aka bunanny.

[flo1151]

gah51,

Was it something we said? Or are you still having difficulty logging on? If I can figure this thing out I know you can. Mz gah can help.
The bus needs to get on its way.

[mdillon]

hope he's not gah62 by the time he gets back

[sameo]

LOL---mdillon--u are just down right baddd...hehe(that was funny though) 62

woohoo--gahhhh where are you???? "Red rover, red rover send gahhh right over..."

Think we 'scare' him???hehehe (nah) jes' kiddin'.

[sameo]

btw-Flo, it's so good to see you back!!(from your trip) So glad you have joined us on the bus!!

later all!

[john_r_jones]

Just strolled through the museum wing of Maranatha land just opened up, knees are sore now. Fell immediately and thanked God I ain't there no more!

Thebunny

[gah51]

Flo,
I'm back, but I just jumped on the bus for a minute to make sure the autopilot is still working. It seems to be fine.

Its been a busy month at work, so I haven't had much free time. Plus yesterday I moved my son and today I moved my daughter. I am one sore old dog.

I'll try to get back on the bus next weekend. I want to catch up with you and others.
GAH

[miltietoast]

Sameo- we will be right back after a word from our sponsers www.katahdincedarloghomes.com (http://www.katahdincedarloghomes.com)

[mdillon]

miltie you tireless entrepreneur you. now don't go givin' away where the hideout is 'cause you know when EN comes a lookin we gotta have a place to stash all the RR.

md

[mdillon]

oh, and GAH I would say hi, but sounds like after all the fun you had with the chillins that your sore azz is already snoozin'

md

[sameo]

Thanks Miltie! :-)

sameO

[miltietoast]

with my new Kubota I can dig a RRBS
Rolling Rock Bomb shelter
Also have room for my y3k organic wheat

[matt_hatter]

Hi all from beautiful Segrove Beach, on a wifi. Must recommend: Messy Spirituality, by Michael Yaconelli, a most liberating read. You second hand lions will laugh and you young bucks will understand us. Thanks, JRJ, this is the book I have been waiting for....Matt

[miltietoast]

second hand lions was on TBS last night

[j2theperson]

***Matt wrote: Hi all from beautiful Segrove Beach, on a wifi.***

You went on vacation...to a beach...in Florida, and you're spending it hunched over your laptop? You poor, sad, crazy man.

[mdillon]

j2 about mattie-"You poor, sad, crazy man."

these are the most encouraging words anyone has spoken about him in a long time- i'm sure he will appreciate your thoughtfulnesshttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

md

[speakword2004]

Very sad. At least he is not fishing from
the beach.

[speakword2004]

No sandfrapping allowed!

[mdillon]

speak, i'm not sure you can frap in sand, only on a window (per miltie)----more like "fump"

just a thought

md

[miltietoast]

surf casting?
incoming (outgoing)
mdillon did you take your cellphone to skool today?

[mdillon]

why, yes i did miltie. u call?

btw is KY lake in your territory? asking for a friend

md

[wiseasaserpentgentleasadove]

Hi, guys-and gals-
just came here to read...and smile...Thanks for the entertainment!

Where's the bus going now>>>>?
did someone mention a frap?

[lablady2]

Kentucky lake is definitely in my territory. If you see a couple of old folks in a Bennington truckin' toward Moor's resort for a cheeseburger, well, stay outta our wake.

[miltietoast]

ky lake is not in my territory but I can still do business there. I pay a royalty to local dealer.Lake Cumberland is in my territory as well as Dale Hollow
Bennington? is that a two-headed sweater?
Mdillon Saw on TV that cell phones are not allowed on campus.After checking on Forerunner guy that may qualify for death penalty

[lablady2]

Bennington is a pontoon boat. Old folks Sea Ray.

What kind of work do you do, miltie, if you don't mind me asking?

[john_r_jones]

Ky. lake-a little chunk of paradise.

John

[speakword2004]

First Law of the Beach: No sandfumping, or else!

[mdillon]

miltie-"Saw on TV that cell phones are not allowed on campus"

can't believe everything you see on TV. e.g.nashville news spotlight on Bethel. would take jay4run, bury him neck deep on the beach and start sandfumping.

md

[miltietoast]

What kind of work do you do, miltie, if you don't mind me asking
Lablady, I am glad I got to respond here before dillon or mattie.I have been accused of not working on more than one occaision.(I tithed a lifetime of work during my maranatha years) The only difference is mattie and dillon get paid when they are not working.I have sold life insurance for 24 years.I was apartner in 2 tv stations that we started from scratch and sold.(Pax Tv in Nashville freg 28 and WB in Knoxville freg 20) Have owned rental propeties(slum lord) adn now I am a log home dealer for Katahdin Cedar Log Homes,and I am trying my hand at developing a log home subdivision on the Cumberland plateau. Ihope to have final approval on 17 lots this Thurs.Still sell life insurance if someone asks me.Thinking about getting real estate and general contractors license.

[lablady2]

Miltie: Certified professional secretary, certified administrative assistant, registered nurse here. I start realtor's classes next week because my husband and I have incorporated a business to rehab properties.

I have my own toolbox. I have my own drill. I can hang sheetrock. I did the sheetrock on the ceiling of my dining room, and I have to say, it's better than the professional sheetrock we had done in a couple of rooms in the house. Do I sound like I'm bragging? Okay, I am. In fact, I carry pictures of that sheetrock job in my purse instead of pictures of the grandkids. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/proud.gif

Good luck with your new line of work. I would think that log homes would do well around the lakes area.

[lablady2]

miltie: did you also give the infamous 20% tithe? It seems I remember MCM suggesting at one point that people mortgage their houses for some sort of compound/buying a boat deal. I do know that they tossed around the idea of buying a hotel around KY lake so we could all be together, like one big happy family. Maybe I just hallucinated all of this because those MCM years are kind of like one big stoner experience. Not that I would know. I read a lot.

Man, sounds like you're a really smart guy, a hard worker and flexible to boot. No doubt you'll do great in this new venture. I hope the deal for the lots goes through without a hitch.

[miltietoast]

lablady Ithink I was over the 20%.As I got older I realized that whose name is on the deed is who owns the property.There is no calculating(where is tik when you need him?)the value of property that us kids helped buy with our coke money and improved with our sweat,thinking we were building the kingdom(which I believe God honored)only to line the pockets directly or indirectly of "individuals" holding the deed.Tax free I am sure.
Never been accused of hard worker,smart usually is followed by AxSxS,flexible is accurate.

[miltietoast]

I think the Proverbs talk about sheetrocking.My paraphrase. "See a man or woman skilled at hanging and especially finishing sheetrock?They will stand before kings."

[matt_hatter]

OK let me straighten this out---I am at the coolest coffee joint just downstairs from the condo...called Beach Java...full of hippies, Tikkie yuppies, cool looking chicks with limited clothing...old souls and bohemian J2's and JIA's nutty sammy-o's, doves, wildwoods, labladys and just pure freaks and geeks like Miltie and Dilly...and of coures the JRJ's running the joint... What the heck could be any better than that? I am here before tha family is even stirring...feed the girl double-dose margaritas and she will sleep till ten...SteveO and his bud won't stir until noon unless I throw a steel garbage can in their room.

Hey, I actually walked on the beach with yesterday with the crew and watched Flipper and friends skip across the Gulf.

OK, I am a pathetic old second hand lion...let me go, the local forcast is due up in a few on the Weather Channel back at the condo....just can't wait until the 8's after the hour....Oh, thanks for the compliment J2......

Matt

[mdillon]

miltie-"mattie and dillon get paid when they are not working"

and like you have done plenty of work without pay, so maybe the karma is balancing. get your clacker down here in my shop with these ruffians and even you'll vote for the next teacher's salary increase or at least send in the black helicopters to get me out.

md

[matt_hatter]

Oh.... and dove, I am drinking a "guatemalan and east african blend of caramal sweetness" right now... so all you you thinking I am not living on the edge down here on the Redneck Riveria, TAKE THAT!!!

Matt the old Hippie

[mdillon]

miltie-"mattie and dillon get paid when they are not working"

and like you have done plenty of work without pay, so maybe the karma is balancing. get your clacker down here in my shop with these ruffians and even you'll vote for the next teacher's salary increase or at least send in the black helicopters to get me out.

md

[j2theperson]

***Matt wrote: Oh, thanks for the compliment J2......***

You're welcome. It was the most non-Krems thing I could think of http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[miltietoast]

mdillon- that teaching making you a little touchy?
I retract,. I forgot, you do work.It is the second hand vocational students that work and the college bound end up staying with their parents after their 6 year college program.My bad

[mdillon]

sorry miltie- hanging out with the saggin' and baggin', pierced and tattooed totin' crow bars and power tools gets me a little edgy. would love to get weiner and broocks down here for an "outreach". one look at this and they'll never leave the teachers lounge.

md

[miltietoast]

sounds like you are in the lounge now

[wiseasaserpentgentleasadove]

Matt- (Hi, all!)
I must say....it seems you are really stepping out now...No more 8'oclock for you, my buddy!

(Actually, 8'oclock is not bad stuff...)

I don't know if I am more jealous of the fact you are on a beach or b/c you were at a cool coffee shop! Was the cool coffee shop ON THE BEACH? THAT would be the ultimate!

md, where the heck are you?? Teacher's lounge??
I used to teach, and remember those lounge times with the other ones who would dare step foot and actually sit down and talk about stuff other than their class or school, or teaching....fun times.
Makes me SORTA want to go back full time...fleeting thought.......there-it went away...

[speakword2004]

I was a teacher and have been a free man for 5 years! PTL

[wiseasaserpentgentleasadove]

Speak-You, too???!!!

I miss it sometimes, but I substitute and then I am thankful that I am not back full time!

[matt_hatter]

Dove, FYI, I can hear the waves lapping up on the sugar white shore even as type, me and my "5 oclock somewhere" new found friends....Oh jeez, the Allie-Cat sent me over here to buy a pound of that heavenly global mixture of dark roast...gotta go, she is gonna get suspicious....

Mattie Buffett

[flo1151]

Hello all,
Just got back from Fripp Island S.C. Just laid 5500 sq. ft of oak flooring in 4 days. Maybe Bob Weiner would be good at that. He is kinda close to the ground. One of my sons is 6'5" and it is tough on his back. I always thought that if I could get a few 4 armed midgets my production would go up at least 50 percent. Anyway this is my 4th house(mini-mansion) to do there in the last 3 years. It seems that the low country people are really the slow country people and have a hard time finishing a job once it's started. I did learn to show up on time or a little early from Maranatha.
Miltie,
log homes sound like a good idea to me in a rustic setting.

Lablady,
My hat is off to you for being able to finish sheetrock. That is something I don't have the touch for. (bad grammar, ending a sentence with preposition).
Mdillon
My wife is in education and I'm glad that I do hardwood floors as my daddy did.

I'm just rambling, I got nothing
flo

[matt_hatter]

For my coffee drinking freaky friends on the double dutch bus: the old '62 Blubird is still capable of some mighty fine stops.

http://www.beachjava.com/

click on the floating cups and find the pics....each your hearts out. Part of the fun of vacation is finding joints like this.

Matt

[miltietoast]

flo you want to put some floors inCookeville TN area?Hardwood capital of year

[miltietoast]

flo you want to put some floors inCookeville TN area?Hardwood capital of year

[flo1151]

miltie,
Is cookeville on the ocean? I know smarta_ _. I might be interested if the details could be arranged. e-mail me. flo1151@bellsouth.net.

[flo1151]

trying to get my posts up so I can be an intermediate member like mdillon and lablady. just quanity no substance

[lablady2]

Am I an intermediate member? Who knew.

I'm feeling a little frisky tonight. Jay wants to rumble. I think I can take him.

[sameo]

Flo-you are getting funnier by the post! lol U R crackin' me up! I'm working on my advanced status...hehe

I am also impressed by lablady-sheetrock! wow!

...and the beachjava looks and sounds like cool "beans"-mon!(matty)

OK--no substance here either...except that lablady can hang sheetrock! that's amazing!

[lablady2]

sameo: don't be too impressed. This is what happens when you marry a cheap man. My husband built our house about 20 years ago, before we married. The living room has a 22 ft. ceiling with a step pitch (12/12). He tied his mother off with two ropes and he and his dad held them on opposite sides of the house while his mom worked on the roof.

The good news is that we do save a ton of money by working on stuff ourself. And, he did buy me a sheetrock lift so I don't have to heave the stuff up on T-bars anymore. Isn't that romantic? But what can you expect from a man who tells you when he proposes that one of the reasons he loves you is because you are a low-maintenance woman. And here's the really sad part: I was flattered.

I also just fixed the limit switch on my washer. Did I mention that my husband is cheap?

[flo1151]

lablady,
but can you cook? If you can you sound like the ideal woman.

[lablady2]

Thanks,flo. I can cook, but I'd much rather bake.

Trust me, I am far from the ideal woman. I have a very sarcastic mouth (in case you haven't noticed). I guess that's the price my husband pays for free labor.

[flo1151]

cook, bake same thing. Don't be hating on youself. Anyone that can tell Jay Rogers that Jesus had been trying to get through on the phone to Bob W, can bake and hang and finish sheetrock is ok in my book.
PS do you clean gutters as well. I can be sarcastic too.

[lablady2]

Flo, as a nurse, I have often cleaned "gut"ers. Double gloving required and not nearly as much fun as it sounds.

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[mdillon]

flo-"trying to get my posts up so I can be an intermediate member like mdillon and lablady. just quanity no substance"

you mean like this?

md

[mdillon]

or like this?

[flo1151]

no more like this

[flo1151]

or

[flo1151]

I believe my last post was smallest in history of factnet. Got to go to work but everyone have a blessed day.

[mdillon]

here's your prize:
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/FactLogoSmall.gif

[lablady2]

Looks like md has come out to play!

posts now = 140 + 1

[speakword2004]

.

[lablady2]

or...maybe not. Math is not my area.

Measure twice, cut once. Measure once,cut twice?

[lablady2]

speak - I am rofl. Thanks for the laugh before I head out to the hospital. I needed it!

[speakword2004]

Mine's smaller than yours and Im am an advanced member! Ha! So take that all of you. Whoahh who let Mel Gibson on the bus?

[lablady2]

Speak: you can bet it wasn't me.

[mdillon]

speak I am bowing to you as I laugh my clacker off

[wiseasaserpentgentleasadove]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[matt_hatter]

Lord, I thank you that I am not like these sinners who have nothing of substance to say...thank you for blessing me with my wit and wisdom...

Matt the advanced Pharisee, post 750+

[wiseasaserpentgentleasadove]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gifhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/yawn.gif

[speakword2004]

Matt, you have broken the record as the biggest member here. And done in such a short time. Sorry buddy, I meant most prolific. Mel Gibson, get thee to a nunnery ...

[matt_hatter]

Catch Mel and me next summer for the blockbuster: Lethal Mouths, Pt 1......

[john_r_jones]

I keep seeing all these photos of healthy smiling people who I grew up with. I on the other hand am in such bad shape when I die I'm donating my body to science fiction.

Thebunny

[flo1151]

speak,
I bow to your smallness. Yours is truly smaller than mine.

[matt_hatter]

flo, gonna do some hardwoods soon, need advice, will email, thanks....another thought provoking post, The Hatter.

[speakword2004]

Guys I am sure they are lapping all of this up. Chances are our evilness is being discussed by the International Network of Factnet Checkers as I type this.

BTW, my new cat's name is Bandit. I nominate him as mascot for the bus dashboard. He is gray and has very long hair. My other tabby is about to be converted into furry dice anyway.

[lablady2]

speak: furry dice? Ouch!

"Chances are our evilness is being discussed..."

speak: We didn't rate as human beings whens we knew 'em, so I doubt we ever cross their minds.
On the other hand, it could be that they are sticking pins into our corncob doll likenesses even as I write this. That could explain that sharp little pain I get in my neck every so often. Well, that or osteoarthritis.

(Message edited by lablady2 on August 03, 2006)

[lablady2]

I read an article about Mel Gibson and what he needs to do to recover. I'll post the url below. I don't hold any personal animosity against MG; I hope he can address both his alcoholism and his anger/hate.

But, the article did make me think of some MCM/EN leaders. They could benefit from some of the advice given, most importantly #7 in the list (although I could think of a few things to add).

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1222126,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0%2C8599%2C1222126%2C00.html)

[john_r_jones]

It's in the details?

I watched a congressman who'd sponsored legislation regarding the Ten Commandments being posted in public buildings get asked a sticky question. "What are the commandments?" the interviewer asked. "What do you mean?" was his reply, in response the interviewer again asked, "Ya know, what are the Ten Commandments, can you name them?" Audible gulp- "I don't know" came his on camera answer.

When we make political hay at someone's expense as the Church of Moderninty seems bent on doing the day to pay usually comes around. I ain't pro choice by a long shot, I'm also not pro fetal political football. Nor do I understand why Christians plunge themselves into dark waters with some pundit wearing robes of self-righteousness and wonder at the backlash?

I sat and watched the "Passion" one evening at home, frankly the euphoria of its theatrical release didn't quite catch with me. I came away with the impression that anti-semitism had once again been codified in some morality play, and that Mary had already been measured for the statuary hall. One spokesperson for "Focus on The Family" has come out tut-tuting about Gibson's alcoholism, apparently his bigotry gets a pass.

The church drunk with new-found celebrity and clout in the entertainment arena have squanderd their capital on self-congratulatory rhetoric in the culture wars. Meanwhile the distance widens between Christian relevance and our societal search for clues of a God who cares.

I couldn't give a hoot about a relativistic church with watered down instant mashed potato theology, I do care about a church that at it's heart is compassionate in something besides its mission statement or markee slogan or logo. I think a church which slurrs it's speach while intoxicated on power might seek a bed next to Mel in rehab.

John

[wiseasaserpentgentleasadove]

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[flo1151]

relativistic church with watered downinstant mashed potato theology. What... That is a little bit too high brow for humorhoids. Remember many are just unfrozen cavemen christians. I barely understand mdillon at times. lethal weapon rules!!

[flo1151]

John R,
Mel is still my hero. I don't know about you but I have said things when I was totally sober that I wish I could take back.

[mdillon]

flo-"Remember many are just unfrozen cavemen christians. I barely understand mdillon at times."

go back in the cave, look at paintings on the wall, follow the stick men, it'll come to you. if still fuzzy, call sameo.

md

[john_r_jones]

Flo, I am particuarly guilty of having nothing more than my native stupidity to blame for something I've said John Barleycorn nowhere in sight (this possibly being an instance of that).

Mel Gibson works in a Jewish factory town where they crank out movies as an industry. He pooped where he eats in a nutshell not only with this incident but with concerns voiced about His antisemitism. The interview with dear old dad as a holocaust denier didn't help him either.

I guess the upshot of Mel is that there are a lot of Joe Shmo Christians like us trying to make a living in the business in L.A. They aren't all wealthy and powerful just someone trying to make something their kids can watch with them and make a buck in the doing. I spoke to a friend in L.A. today, a chaplain who is helping a young couple get a contract with Sony Music. The kid's dad is a pastor and has trusted my friend to help him negotiate the minefields out there. Mel's behavior not just in this incidence has made that infinately more difficult.

The religious right tried to ride this movie's popularity into tinsel town as an incursion of their body politic. I don't know about you but I shudder at the prospect of some of these charecters having more sway in our culture than they do now.

Culture is a curious thing the cave drawings outlived everything else from that time.

From a knuckle dragger himself...

John

P.S. sorry to put a damper on the lightheeartedness of this part of the world, thanks for your indulgence.

[miltietoast]

mdillon I ran across this in the back of the cavehttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/FactLogoSmall.gifI think it is marshall dillons badge.One of the stick figures looks like miss Kitty dun got into the liquor again 0_____/\____}

[sameo]

LOLOL..OK boys!! I found youuu! (hiccup) I've been staggering all over these threads trying to find you guys. Yeh, my stick figure is tilted alittle...tipsy...slanted...woopsy.

"Speak," I bet those guys are reeealy talking about us now.(hiccup) lol OK--is Miss Kitty really drunk? Pu-leeze! of course NOT!(She only drunks for medicinal porpoises)lol I am crackin' myself up. Miltie...you are bad too....egging me on.

Flo---don't worry---I don't know what Mdilly-O means half the time either. I mean, the guys coo-koo, know what I mean? clackerish...(whatever that means)

Lab---you continually make me laugh....and regardless-I remain impressed w/ your sheetrock skills. Hey--all I can say is "Sheet girl...you rock!" LOL ;-)

[john_r_jones]

Since this is the pain in the tushie thread one more thought. If the networks and the industry flog this story it will bite them in the hiney. Mel Gibson is viewed as a regular guy by the public and someone they identify with. Showing scenes from his movies to accentuate the story ain't gonna wash with the folks. We now return you to your regular programing...

John

[john_r_jones]

Will Ferrell, why can't he do something stupid? I guess I answered my own question there huh?

John

[40days40years]

Will Ferrell? he does'nt sound southern he plays a poor hick not poor financially but he plays a hick poorly, the movie is sacriligious, only watched half the anchor man by the way.

Mel Gibson is kind of an idiot. First off I don't know how you say stuff like that with only a .12? - Mels PR people are pathetic. You know Israel killed dozens of innocent kids right before the Gibson fiasco in retaliatory strikes. I would have said I'm sorry but all those dozens of kids killed in the latest attacks on Lebannon got to me. Yeah I know this reads bad but I am in Maranatha mode and yes I support Israel but Mel was not thinking. In regards to the passion of Christ? I know Mel is catholic and they seem to have an affinity for bloody images (please readers I mean no disrespect) I saw the Passion I think the whipping scene in real life would have killed Jesus right there before he got to the cross. I am not an expert but from common sense? Sorry John it can not be all fluffy tails and idiocy and innocence here but it will be soon in an hour or two. I was reading your stuff so her are my thoughts.

[flo1151]

John R,
I really don't have a lot of care about Mel Gibson, but I can understand you feelings being in the Jew dominated entertainment industry. I don't know what he said but I am sure it was as insulting as my above statement.

In my line of work I constantly am bidding jobs against hispanic and eastern european contractors. Most all of them have no insurance, no health care and do not pay taxes. Do you think I am happy about that. No I am not. Maybe Mel has dealt with some of these a--holes so long that he is sick of them. I try not to work for certain groups of people. I know that sounds bad but my experience says to watch out for some groups of people. Does that make me a racist? Probably, but if every time to try to work for some group of people they are constantly beating you up over price or picking at your work before you are even through or not wanting to pay you the agreed upon price, I take note. Mel to say what he said is sort of stupid. He chose that profession as did you. And you have to play by the rules.
I have the luxury of being able to turn down jobs that I don't want at least for now. I foresee that my sons may not have that option. That sucks.

I don't know about the Israel vs the muslem world war on the forefront but would definitely be on Israel's side. I have bad feelings about the way Bush has handled the whole middle east thing. I know I am probably over stepping the bounds of the hummorhoid but John R you started it. I love you brother!!
WARNING!
All content of this post are not necessarily the thoughts of Flo.

[john_r_jones]

Flo,
I hear ya!

John

[mdillon]

sameo-"Mdilly-O means half the time either. I mean, the guys coo-koo, know what I mean? clackerish...(whatever that means)"

"clackerish"-i'm not sure what it means either, but somehow i feel it is me.

miltie that wasn't marshall dillon's badge, that was flo's prize for the smallest post on factnet until speakword pasted up the world's smallest white speedo. i guess flo just left it in the cave.

Mel Gibson found some of miss kitty's medicine and the way he went to babblin' it is obvious that his Forerunner subscription has lapsed. Please send money to miltie's paypal account so we can help a clacker out.

md

[wiseasaserpentgentleasadove]

seeing if my new username works..

[wisedove]

seeing if my new username works..

[wisedove]

HOORAH!!! Now, this means I am a NEW MEMBER? Man, I was workin my way up to advanced with the other one....

[jesusisawesome]

Hi WD . . . sorry you have to go through the membership classes all over again . . . http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif

[matt_hatter]

Well, you just got stripped of your rank, from "Intermediate" to "New" member...but I like it...we are people of no reputation, so what's 253 posts among friends anyway?

Factnet make me mad...I have several friends who just cannot seem to get registered...what did you do dove?

Matt

[jesusisawesome]

WD, now I'm going to start thinking of WD40 when I see your name . . . do you remove sap and splattered bugs from cars? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/proud.gif

Do you know there are 2000 uses for WD40? One is to loosen rusty nuts and screws . . . plenty of those here in bunny land! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[matt_hatter]

Clackerish? Is that like fannyish, rumpish, buttish?

Allie said, "Matt, your behavior has been quite buttish lately".

"Thank you, darling," Matt replied.

[wisedove]

Matt,
well, 2 weeks ago, I registered for a new email account through yahoo (aol is not working...i have been having to post annonymously...)

I re-regestered with factnet after my new email was done.

I kept waiting for a confirmation of the new account, but decided today to go ahead and try it...never received confirmation from factnet...

I still couldn't post through AOL, I had to use Mozilla-

I will just keep track of my posts:253 + 3 now!!! HEHE I was trying to catch up with u matt!

[jesusisawesome]

So are you the clacker that's the frapper?

[matt_hatter]

But my 770+ posts are so meaningful....clackerish..frapperish...SameO, your lingo is casting shadows over the bunny trail...hehe

[jesusisawesome]

Holy cow Matt . . . you are one fast bunny! I'll never catch up with you . . . I thought women were supposed to have double the words of men?!

In all seriousness, you're posts have been very meaningful to me. The humor and the wisdom . . . love it!

And Dove, I like your name . . . don't mind me. I'm letting loose after a crazy busy week. TGIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jesusisawesome]

I'm in serious need of some WD40 here, I feel very creaky, rusty, and squeaky . . .

[jesusisawesome]

Catch you guys later, and have a great weekend.

[flo1151]

mdillon.
In the cave here with Mel. We can't figure anything out here. Stick figures and funny looking letters. It also smells like bat guana.

Mel has had a revelation. He was framed. It was really OJ driving the Lexus 430. I don't know whether to believe Mel or the media. Hard choice.

Sameo,
Mdillon says to ask you what the stick figures mean. I can't trust Mel he is a pot smoking, drinkin aussie catholic.

[lablady2]

Flo, in my experience, the Jews have been a pretty good group to work with. Far superior to some group experiences I've had. Just thought I'd put that out there.

[matt_hatter]

JIA: I thought women were supposed to have double the words of men?!

I believe I have just been major slammed here...Oh..gotta go, TLC's Stacy and Clinton are on the tube...

[flo1151]

lablady,
Do they allow jews in Kentucky?http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

[flo1151]

To all,
Having made most of the people on this site sick of me and my racist propoganda. Have you seen the movie Crash, it is sort of dark but it explores the racism and bigotry in the world. I was convicted but I guess not sentenced. Really I thought it was good and I don't hold to the fact that you can judge everybody by their skincolor or ethnicity. So no flying daggers or broken bottles please.

[lablady2]

Yes,flo, they do.

Each county in Kentucky allows a maximum number of 12 Jews. However, the regional synagogue can file form KYS-2709 to petition for two additional congregants per county if they are Jews by Choice as opposed to Jews by Birth. Should the Jew count exceed 14 in a county, the Temple board of the synagogue in that county will put all the member families names in a hat and the family whose name is drawn must relocate to another county with fewer Jews within 30 days. They must then register with the state within 60 days. Max.

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif

[flo1151]

Lablady,
If my kentucky history serves correct there are 120 counties in Kentucky. So that must mean that there are 1440-1680 jews in Kentucky. Mel Gibson is listening here in the cave. Where is it on Kentucky Lake that you live. He his wife a 7 kids would like to move.

You do realize I just became an intermediate member too!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif