Male Bovine Ruminance

[john_r_jones]

Please feel free to indulge yourselves here in the vein which you have so deftly mined.

John

[matt_hatter]

This would be bull shootin'? hmmm? Since I took your old thread down a worn out path, I am glad that you started a new one. Hopefully a no JBK zone. Whoops.

John, thanks so much for your emails as of late. Much encouragement to the Hatter.
Matt

[j2theperson]

Wow. The title of this thread is a very involved pun....Either that or it means this thread is reserved for cowlike men (a redundancy is ever there was one http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif ) and we women have to start our own thread.

[flo1151]

I didn't know women ever started anything except for arguements.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[lablady2]

I've never feared to tread through the male bovine herd or their droppings.

[flo1151]

lab,

we could call you cow patty
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif
flo

[lablady2]

Well, that beats my other nickname: b***h on wheels!

[matt_hatter]

"I've never feared to tread through the male bovine herd or their droppings."
"and we women have to start our own thread."

Ladies, I cannot claim credit for this, but I heard recently that women shoud start their own cult: The Utertarians. Sounds like a good name for your thread.

Chinese Water Torture won't get the source of that one out of me. See how much fun this is?

[wildwood_]

Ahh, but the glorious fun of the down hill races...surely some of you folks did this as children? You gather with a few friends, hopefully an unwary city-slicker or two, lay down at the top of a large hill... Above the cow pasture...then start rolling down to see who "wins". The definition of "winner" depending on if it's your first such race and think that "winning" means making to the bottom first. The older players, having previously made this error, find that coming in "Last" sometimes provides a more lasting satisfaction...that and staying downwind of the "winners" for the rest of the day, or until the cows leave the pond & creek open for a wash and a rub with some fresh mint....lots and lots of fresh mint... http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[matt_hatter]

Wild, we have a 10 acre electric fence around the pond and cabin so our fish fillets won't taste....funny.

[lablady2]

"Chinese Water Torture won't get the source of that one out of me."

I smell a Dilly.

I like "Utertarians" better than "Mammorians."

[matt_hatter]

He is not that smart. And no on Miltie for the same reason.

[lablady2]

matt: You break me up!

[wildwood_]

LOL...electric fences, cows. I'm recalling how there was a certain age when I looked at the cows standing in the lower end of the pond and decided that swimming in the pond was not a good idea anymore...which probably explains why there was a continual "age" progression among the cousins as we "transitioned" to go arrowhead or rock hunting instead...

Utertarians??? Hmmm.... If I didn't have to go to Chucky Cheese (Yes TORTURE) I'd comment... as it is I'm going to go annoy a giant mouse and step lightly from this thread without mentioning that heifers are usually retained as happy productive creatures & well, steers... STEAK. Yes, amazing, I changed my mind...right in the middle of the sentence...appalling woodland creature that I am! I'm sure the Mouse will ensure I suffer...they are young you know...they try and encourage you to buy stuff...waving them away does not a bit of good... http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/crazy.gif I'd rather stay here...alas the chariot awaits...later folks.

[lablady2]

wild: You are going to Chucky Cheese? Did someone serve you with a court order?

I will fast and pray until your safe return.

[matt_hatter]

Choices:
1) Chuck E Cheese
2) Prostate Exam

Make it quick Doc.

[lablady2]

Here's how much I hate Chucky Cheese. My daughter had my grandson's birthday party there for three years in a row. Year four I refused to go. I took him out for a special grammy lunch and shopping spree.

Maybe it's being a nurse or just a human being, but watching those kids roll around in the contaminated plastic ball pit takes my appetite away. Well, that and the FOOD.

[lablady2]

Cough...cough.

[lablady2]

Cough...cough.

There's an idea for an all male thread: The Prostaterians. Suddenly, I'm flooded with ideas to post there.

[j2theperson]

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The Utertarians. Sounds like a good name for your thread.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Well, that is better than the Happy Faerie Princess thread.

[lablady2]

J2: beats the heck out of the "Submissive Women Unite" thread I thought of posting earlier.

[matt_hatter]

"Suddenly, I'm flooded with ideas to post there."

Yeah, I know..."Men are clackerholes"

[lablady2]

"Yeah, I know..."Men are clackerholes"

Oh....matt. That would be your best case scenario. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif

[coppertree]

<font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Hi All
Ok, I get it. Look out for the bum steer, he, he punny nerd humour
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[john_r_jones]

Prostatarians believe in prostaglandination, we're destined to be...um yeah.

Utertarians are estraginomists they believe in free moodswingism.

I'm an ambivilitarian I don't give a shhhht!

Jonesy

[matt_hatter]

I'm a toyota truck man.

[john_r_jones]

Actually I just finished what should have been a ten minute job-five hours later. I've had my head poked through a hole in the slab in the b'room cutting a sewer pipe under the slab and putting a new trap in for the bathtub. Our watertable is up here so the sand underneath the slab is gooey. Anyway mission accomplished-next!

Jonesy

[lablady2]

matt: Tundra or Tacoma. My son has a Tacoma. He loves his "yota."

I've promised the spousal unit that I will buy him a Tundra if I win the lottery. Of course, I plan to drive it.

[lablady2]

matt: Tundra or Tacoma? My son has a Tacoma. He loves his "yota."

I've promised the spousal unit that I will buy him a Tundra if I win the lottery. Of course, I plan to drive it.

[matt_hatter]

I've got the coolest Tacoma 4 door. Off road package. Red. It is killing me to think I am going to turn it over to SteveO in 6 months to USE, not own.

Told Allie I am going to get a hooptie (Alabama urban term for a 'beater" old vehicle) just to get me to work...she thinks I am so gallant. I have secretly been hitting that 'yota website and looking at his big brotha though...how do I tell her a new Tundra is a hooptie? Any utertarians want to dis the sista and tell me how to pull this one off?

[ginger1]

Matt, hubby works for toyota manufacturing. We get discounts ! Just got my toyota Matrix. I love it ! With a price of a second hand toyota.

Toyota Tundra is made in indiana. Toyota Tacoma came from here California. Toyota Sequioa from Texas.

Hubby's line is the Tundra. He fix the robots. They scrape the truck with one small flaw. They make sure its perfect.

[lablady2]

Matt: I hope I can help.

If Ms. Allie is the half the woman I think she is (smart, talented, funny, a nurse), she is secretly coveting a Tundra.

It's good that she thinks you're being gallant. Keep that up so she'll feel sorry for you. Occasionally, (when you know she's watching) go outside and pat your Tacoma, then take a hanky from your pocket, dab your eyes and blow your nose. Remember, nurses are care-takers and fixers to the point of being pathological.

More later. That's enough for one lesson. Here's your tip of the day: The goal is to make the Tundra her idea. You, of course, will be protesting until the minute you drive it home.

So much work, so little time.

[matt_hatter]

Wildwood: "LOL...electric fences, cows."

Ohhh the cruelty of a young Mad Hatter. Told 'nasso and brother to grab that wire and press down on it so we could hop over the fence. (It will send a jolt down both shoulder sockets and out your fingers.) We all actually had a good laugh. One of the good times.

[wildwood_]

I see the problem...I should've suspected this before...you all are not CHEVY people! Well, at least there's no mention of FORDS yet...I know its coming...I'm going to get my Dale Jr hat &amp; start praying for deliverance... Possibly this is why I was never told the group I was in was Maranatha...hmmm, I see now that perhaps my wrong turn was getting into a Pinto many, many years ago... Finally a logical explanation.

And my dog is staring at me now...wondering why I'm laughing like a lunatic...(first reason...my husband is taking the daughter &amp; friend home...obviously I'm NOT in the car). Second reason, CRUEL HATTER...FUNNY FUNNY Hatter! Why is it that some people will insist on touching an electric fence...just to "see" if it's electric. You probably could've got one of them to grab that wire even though they knew it was electric... Oh,YA THINK IT WILL HURT...oh, no...it's just suppose to jolt enough to get &amp; KEEP a cow's attention...and they are big, bony, and wear leather...but no...go ahead...try it...with your little human hand,no leather hide or cloven feet (well I hope no cloven feet). There was always someone in the group (a boy) who would...I cannot say that I've ever seen a female to this knowingly... Perhaps I should get out more...http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[j2theperson]

Fords! Whoo! I own a Ford. The Jessicar is a '93 Taurus that has served me faithfully for the last six years. 'Tis a good car. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[wildwood_]

...well...a '93 Taurus must be closely related to a '93 Caprice...even if it's pedigree is...well...whisper...ford... Hoopties have to stick together! Still miss my '75 Chevy Nova...it's probably on the road somewhere, old novas never die, they just rust away unless that "Bondo?" stuff is used properly. Spent an entire weekend once fixing a rust spot in the left rear quarter panel, filled it, sanded it, primed it, painted it...waxed it. Naturally, less than a week later...in the parking garage someone ran smack into that panel...all that beautiful work...well, the insurance covered the professionals to fix it. But the irony still has me shaking my head.

[lablady2]

I'm a Mercury girl. Love my Merc.

[matt_hatter]

I'm a Mercury girl.

ARE YOU THE MERCURY GIRL ON THE COMERCIALS!!!?? I am trading the Tacoma in for a Merc!!!

WW, I don't know how many friends of mine "just have" to reach out for that wire. Logic never kicks in. Like you said, it has to get a cow's attention. We are much smaller. It will hurt much worse. Duh.

[wisedove]

Wildie-
I found you!

I was on those other worn out, way past the point of no return threads, and have been away all weekend from the computer, so I had NO idea this was another fun bunny trail. Do you all think we can keep this one BUS material?

[wisedove]

I choose to leave all of my disagreements and arguments for the other thread.

[wisedove]

Matt-Tundra will be easy. Hubby has one. I love driving it. Way cool. Sienna for me. Used to be a mercury girl.

[j2theperson]

Yeah! This thread is all about fun. I'll stop being a Vulcan or a warlike Klingon and be something else...not sure what, yet, though. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[lablady2]

matt: Sigh....too old to be THAT Mercury girl.

I have a Mountaineer. Love it, love it, love it. I wouldn't trade it if I won the lottery.

[wisedove]

Also, Matt, and Miltie, if you are still around..I am finding out that RECREATIONAL FOOTBALL IS WAY MORE COMPETITIVE AND POLITICAL than I ever thought it would be. It's sad. After a month of practice (4 nights a week, mind you) last week's first game was a nightmare for about 7 kids and parents. NO PLAYING TIME. Needless to say, I had a few long words with the coach, and thankfully, today's game all children played. Why is REC ball so competitive already?

[lablady2]

So, J2, how 'bout those Cardinals?

[matt_hatter]

Dovey, you are not being ignored! And this is the bus thread, all fun. Gotta go get SteveO in Auburn. Will be back in an hr or so. Will comment about football--your assesment is right!! Out the door!

[wisedove]

j2-GREAT! I can use fun. I can use laughter and light-heartedness. I will try to keep it all here. Sure, I have some pretty strong feelings on some things, but I want to let my hair down and kick my shoes off, put my feet up, and RELAX.

Cardinals? am I missing something? hehe I'm all excited about the SAINTS. Who will be watching Monday night?

I'm trying to find the darn LSU game on t.v., I guess it's not being broadcast.

Matt, it is a shame that REC football is as brutal as it is. My son was CRUSHED last week. Totally discouraged and wanted to quit. I told him "I'm your parent. I might pull you out, but YOU are NOT quitting. Glad he is sticking it out. How DARE the coaches be downright preferential and play favorites, ignoring new comers to the game. How dare they just be focused on WINNING at age 7&amp;8, and perhaps having a lasting negative effect on my son who is an extremely athletic person, and has been very discouraged so far in his very first experience with football. It is very frustrating.

[wildwood_]

LabL...there's some country singer that I like that sings about his Mercury... My sister's car was a Green '75 Mercury...named "Ruth", mine was naturally "Naomi". Neither of them purchased "new" but gently "used"...NOT Pre-owned...USED... Yes, I believe in developing a first name relationship with my car...Naomi cooperated (or my Mom's prayers) by every significant breakdown: from broken fan belts to water pumps giving up the "ghost" or an alternater/battery lights going OUT...occurred as I pulled into either my parking space in Lexington or into the drive at my parent's house. I found that "thoughtful" of her...especially the time the power-steering belt broke. I put a lot of miles on that car and did do preventive maintenance but although I checked the belts...it was hard to tell if they were "going". Usually when one broke, that was a sign to replace them all...same with hoses, etc. That was the nice thing about the one new car I had after "Naomi"...I got in &amp; drove it...didn't have it long enough to put the same number of miles..."Ruby" quess what color she was...

Yup Dovey...I'm recovering in here from Chucky Cheese (actually Gatti Land). I was suppose to know that difference earlier...it was a significant matter to my child &amp; friend...wails from the backseat quickly corrected this error...To me, there was NO difference...both are too crowded and too loud. Of course now my daughter's cranky &amp; husband's cranky &amp; the dog is hiding. So we all had a great time!

I've found it much less stressful &amp; enjoyable to be dressed in Orange &amp; cheering "War Eagle" for the Tiggers...oh, Tigers (hee) than to be watching UK Football...and there's something about SEC Basketball games that does not bring out my kinder, gentler nature...but thankfully that's a few weeks away yet. AND no team sports yet for my daughter...she could probably behave just fine, my behavior might prove to be the problem...

[flo1151]

wise,
My son wanted to quit his junior year in high school. His school was one of the top 2-3 programs in Georgia. He played line and not hardly anyone that wasn't a senior started on the line. After 2-3 weeks of not playing he wanted to quit. He was tired playing on the scout team. I told him he couln't quit now. If he wanted to quit at the end of the year that was fine but not in the middle of the season. He played maybe 5 minutes all year. Next year he was starting off. guard went to 5A state championship game Played in the Georgia dome twice that year. He wouln't trade that for anything now.

Matt and Tik

Btw he played against Kenny Irons and Brad Lestor. Irons never beat us. We never beat Lestor (Parkview, his team won 47 games in a row. When my son was a senior the only two games we lost was to Parkview (about 3 miles down the road)in regular and state championship game.

[wisedove]

flo-
wow. thanks for that encouragement. Man, We have a looong way to go...I realize it may be an up-hill battle all the way until his senior year. I guess if you love it, it makes it a little easier to endure being benched. I was just very glad that he got to play today. Actually caused a fumble!

[wisedove]

wildwood,
Put the hubby to bed, the daughter to bed, and the dog to bed, and come back and chat!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

[wisedove]

(caused a fumble on defense, that is.)

[flo1151]

miltie,
I have two words for you. Morten Anderson.

go falcons

[wisedove]

flo,
that's a cheap shot! I met Morten Anderson when he played with the Saints, and also knew Bobby Hebert, who for a time also went to the falcons. I can't beleive Morton will be back Monday night. Go SAINTS!

[wisedove]

Matt,
I saw your post somewhere on here about the LSU game last week. Do you REALLY think LSU deserved to lose that one? COME ON!!!!

[matt_hatter]

flo, we have always had a slew of players come from Georgia to Auburn. Wow. Great experience against great players.

dove, hold on tight, rec ball ain't what it used to be. Tell him to hang in there. Competitive Travel ball in so many sports has influenced the rec ball leagues. Gotta Gotta Gotta win....give me a break. Let em play and have fun.

The YMCA football leagues here have participation rules , if players don't get their alloted playing time, the team may have to forfeit. That is the way is SHOULD be.

Night all. I have stirred up enough for one day.

[wisedove]

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AND no team sports yet for my daughter...she could probably behave just fine, my behavior might prove to be the problem...<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Yes, I find that to be the case with myself, as well. I have already been nominated as "Team-Mom". I don't exactly understand how I got there, all I did was sit on the bench with those kids, tell them to pick up there cone-shaped water cups and throw them into the proper place in the trash, and I run up and down the sidelines hoopin and hollerin with the coaches, and hand water bottles to those tired ones (the ones who are over-used in the game!) make sure they stay hydrated. Why would they call me "team-mom?"http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif

[wisedove]

One dad even commented to my husband during today's game-"man, she runs a tight ship." My husband responded, "Yep, it comes naturally to her. She was the same way when he played baseball."

Go figure.

[matt_hatter]

dove, WAR EAGLE!!!
LOL

[wisedove]

hmmm, matt, how did we both post at the same time???

Will you be supporting the Saints or Falcons on monday night? This could make or break our friendship.

[wisedove]

Matt-
just read your post on rec ball. I just can't believe that it is soo widespread, and you are right, let them play, let them learn the game, let them decide if it's for them or not, but don't have "starters" and subs at that level. It's ridiculous. I'm not a nice mom when i see my son run on the field 4 times asking if he can play, and coach says "sorry" and sends him to the sidelines. Especially when he had the fastest speed in speed camp out of all 50 kids. MY SON!!! FASTEST one out of all 50. Give me a break. Work with him....don't bench him b/c this is his "first year."http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lame.gif

[wisedove]

good night!

[wildwood_]

...why did I leave this thread...silly me...but I come back and find Dovey running along the sidelines being an enforcer... LOL...good medicine as Hatter would say. Could you come to my house &amp; enforce...oh...anything??????

My husband's kicking me off the computer...he has to log into work...so he says....then again, there was this audible gasp when he came in &amp; saw me typing instead of the screen he'd left...

Love that Windows "Switch" User feature...

I'll check back tomorrow or later if I'm "allowed"...seems I'm either too happy or banging my head against the screen too loudly...it's disturbing to the dog...MOODSWINGS...if she could read this board she'd have them too!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[wisedove]

Hey, hubby of wildie-
perhaps it's time for a laptop! (for HER, that is.) Just when things were getting fun, you take her away.....bye-wildwood...if I am "allowed" on here tommorrow, hope to see ya then!
dovey

[dust]

Wildie,
I can help you get a new computer.....if you want to go mac. You'll never go backhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif Get one with a camera, and we can actually look at each other and talk....and talk through the computer without the phone going dead. Now that's heaven on earth.

[wisedove]

dust,
i might look into that for myself. I'd like to be portable with this computer thing. I hate sitting on the edge of my bed. I don't even have it on a desk. I need a laptop.I'm not sure about the mac, though/

[matt_hatter]

LL: "More later. That's enough for one lesson. Here's your tip of the day: The goal is to make the Tundra her idea. You, of course, will be protesting until the minute you drive it home.
So much work, so little time."

LL, this is what I like about you, you have let me in on the secret doctrines of the Utertarians. It is very hard for us Prostatetarians to understand ya'll's thinking sometimes, as I have been scratching my head lately reading factnet. No matter, "man logic" is totally illogical to most of you.

Anyway, back to the truck. I put the plan of action into first gear last night. Allie and I went out to eat, and usually take her car, (another Toyota, BTW) but we took my truck. I started telling her how much I am gonna miss my favoriteve vehicle of all time...said we ought to detail the truck real nice when we turn it over to SteveO.

She has a consult job coming up that will pay for a kitchen remodling...and said she would use that $ for a down payment on a new truck. Man! that was easy....

In all seriousness, she will get her kitchen, and I will happily drive a hooptie. I have long been delivered from the need to have "things" to prove my right standing before man and God.

All I ask is that I have A/C (we run it 9 months in vehicles down here) and a powerful sound system. That, is the truth. Actually looking for a little truck about 5 years old. Will be mucho happy and blessed!

The Male Bovine Ruminances that go on in here are my main reason for being here. So fun.

[lablady2]

"The Male Bovine Ruminances that go on in here are my main reason for being here. So fun."

Turning a new leaf. As of today, the will be my ONLY reason for being here. Feel free to remind me as needed.

I do love the Tundra, but hubby and I are way to cheap to buy new cars. My Mountaineer was an exception but I bought it following my near-death encounter with the school bus. It's loaded with every safety feature known to man.

I was off my feed a bit yesterday, as evidenced by my willingness to divulge sacred wimmin' secrets. Back on track today and you will need your secret decoder ring to figure out womenthink.

[lablady2]

The = they, and to = too

Back on track except for the spelling. Argh. Not much sleep in the past week. My dad is not doing well and I would appreciate your prayers.

[matt_hatter]

Remember Ralphie in "A Christmas Story?"

Be sure to drink your ovaltine. Ovaltine? (Expletive) A crummy commercial?

That is all we men get, even with a secret decoder ring. But thanks for the brief encounter into your world.

We put tile flooring in the kitchen a few years back, and I actually want to do the granite counters and update a few appliances anyway. Like I said, a vehicle gets me from point A to B, as long as I can stay cool and listen to music VERY loud.

Wild Woman: New Alan Jackson CD coming out on the 26th. It is supposed to be a change from his standard McSongs fare. If "Red like a Rose" is any indication, it will be great. One of those haunting, very moving country songs.

[wisedove]

still waiting, matt. Saints or Falcons Monday night??

[matt_hatter]

Heading to Sunday School. Will repent for all my misdeeds, and then will pray for your daddy.

Dun't wurry about te typos. They fli rigth over
my haid.

[miltietoast]

At 52 years old , 45 pounds overweight,and no exercise.I tried to kick with my son the other day.The mind knows what to do but body can not cash checks the mind writes.Felt like I was trapped in a coma,"somebody let me out!" Used to send 60 yard fieldgoals over the top of uprights,now 40 yarders limp over crossbar and land ever so softly.Yet thr young man inside me says lose some weight exercise and you can still kick 50 yd fieldgoals.Mattie I am going out for breakfast and contemplate,and ruminate
milty

[matt_hatter]

dove, I honestly haven't watched much pro ball in years...but...my heart has to go with the Aint's, I mean the Saints. So don't worry be happy.
ATL. just has never excited me, and that seems to be the case with most of my sister-citizens over in Georgia.

[wisedove]

miltie-
there you are. Can you chime in on all of my REC ball complaints. You and Mattie said "let him play..." So, we let him play, and the first game last week, he sat on the bench. Is that right at age 7 &amp; 8? Should it be THAT competitive?

[matt_hatter]

Miltie, eat a slab of bacon for me. How about text-messaging me the # to Cookeville General Hospital. Would like to know what room you will be in. I know, "Bad confession, brother!"

Did dilly make the deadline? Hope so! Been praying for him!

[lablady2]

"Did dilly make the deadline? Hope so! Been praying for him!"

Oh, me too! I've been so anxious to hear how things turned out. Any word?

[j2theperson]

Wow. All football and cars...this really is the "man thread"...except that all the girls are talking about it to. Am I the only one here who doesn't like team sports?

Hmm. Maybe I'll start liking it if I ever get married and have a son. I wonder what sport he will play.

[ginger1]

J2, - I am with you in regards to team sports.My hubby loves it btw. Thats why I kept thinking did I make a mistake putting a Dishnetwork in our bedroom ?
Now , we don't have to compete with the computer but he does not get out now as much.

[flo1151]

Matt,

Give the Aints their pity vote. They have been homeless for a year. I am not the one who built their stadium in the middle of a hole in the ocean.

No mercy for the aints. They will have to earn it. Reggie Bush is going to have to earn every yard.

dirty bird

[matt_hatter]

J2, if your kid has your Vulcan brain, he will excell at Mental Gymnastics. The judges vote....9.7, 9.8, and there it is! a 10!!!

I have enjoyed reading your posts lately. Very logical Ms Spock. Again, Live long and prosper.
Over and out,
Capt. Kirk.
(more like Denny Crane? on Boston Legal)

[matt_hatter]

flo, you ATL fans...we have more ALT Brave fans here than in Georgia. And did you hear the big news?? Our own Montgomery Biscuits won the Southern League championship (AA affiliate of the Devil Rays--man, that's a bad confession too.)

Take a look at our stadium, one of the prettiest AA fields around. First base line luxury boxes used to be a cotton warehouse. Scroll to the bottom.

http://www.biscuitsbaseball.com/stadium.html

OK, I know...AA baseball, big deal. We get what we can. LOL!!

[coppertree]

<font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Hi Miltie
Don't worry, if you go with Dr. Atkins, you can have bacon!!! But not much else, meat, all kinds, I got into some strange things on that diet. But it works. Be happy that you can still kick, I can't climb a good Rocky Mt. now, knee is acting up. May need new cadaver part. They love my log homes style there, out west. Most of Aspen's very expensive homes are done in Sips with lots of engineered lumber, etc. I may get to do an Sip, Palo Alto Ca. That will go up easy, but 78,000. building permit for the site!!}

[matt_hatter]

Whoops, old train station, not cotton warehouse. The big building in the back is Allie's M-F spot.

[wisedove]

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Used to send 60 yard fieldgoals over the top of uprights,now 40 yarders limp over crossbar and land ever so softly<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Come out of the closet, Miltie. You are really Morten Anderson, and you are coming back to try to kick the winning field goal against your former team. That's why you are out practicing with the son....sneaky...but I've got you figured out!

[flo1151]

miltie,
You could wear # 52 for your age or #45 for pounds overweight. As they say in waterboy, "You can do it".

[wisedove]

Flo,
Thanks for the sympathy vote for the NEW SAINTS. Let's give them a fair shot. Yes, they will have to prove themselves, and I feel they are off to a terrific start...2-0 on the road. A first in their history. Also, the entire season is sold out, another first in the history. I tried my hardest to get tickets for monday night's game. some were going for $500.00-$650.00. It's not worth that to me!!! I'll watch it on my little 27 inch. Or, maybe hubby will let me go hang out at WOW wingery's. They have big screens all over.

[matt_hatter]

Flo, we almost have the entire script of the waterboy memorized around here. Scary.

[wisedove]

I've never seen waterboy. Perhaps I should....now that I have a potential football player on my hands.

[lablady2]

j2: "Wow. All football and cars...this really is the "man thread"...except that all the girls are talking about it to. Am I the only one here who doesn't like team sports?

I'm not big into team sports. However, we lived in Denver in 1982 and I got pretty attached to the Bronchos. Football is the only team sport I enjoy.

My husband and I enjoy golf but it's not a team sport when we play together; he's too serious about it. Last time we played together, he kept telling me to HURRY! Lots of people behind us. MOVE! Finally, I just picked up my ball and threw it toward the next hole. And the next one. And the one after that. Turns out I pitch about as well as I drive.

[wisedove]

Ll,
Prayed for your dad in church today...God is able to turn things around.

[lablady2]

I appreciate that, Dove. My dad is 86 and has had a wonderful and full life. However, he has been sick with chronic myologenous leukemia for the past 4.5 years. This is a disease with a 5-7 year prognosis. Unfortunately, other problems have developed in the last few weeks that complicate his status.

God, however, is good and I feel the sustaining power of His grace and love each day.

[wisedove]

Thanks for sharing the details. Now I know a better way to pray, other than "Lord, I don't know lablady or her dad, but you do. Touch them both. Heal where there needs to be healing. Show up on their behalf."

Now, I can pray specifically!
Thanks.

[wildwood_]

Lablady! My kind of golfer...what is with men and being in such a hurry to play through???? I always made fun of golf until I tried it...then once (only once) I hit a fine shot with a #3 Wood...oh, the sound...the soaring... and drat that curve... My clubs have been packed in the same brown wrapping paper from two Army moves back...I'm not giving them up. Someday, I'll go out on a course and annoy the "real" players again.

Oh, family entering..and I haven't read up this thread yet beyond golf...oh well, I thought I was going to here longer...

Later guys &amp; girls. Enjoy.

Labl--I'll be praying for you &amp; your family too. "Sustaining Power" of His Grace and Love...

[j2theperson]

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Lablady: I'm not big into team sports. However, we lived in Denver in 1982 and I got pretty attached to the Bronchos. Football is the only team sport I enjoy.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
The Packers are big around here, of course. I tried to get into it in my younger years, but I could never sustain the illusion. Maybe it would help if I actually learned the rules, but, as it stands now, eventhough I understand the basics I can't keep track of all the different potential penalties. Baseball is sort of boring, but at least I understand everything. I think hockey is probably my favorite team sport if only because there is always the chance that a massive fight will suddenly break out.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

As far as golf goes, I agree with Mark Twain--"Golf is a good walk interrupted." Though, I might actually find it more enjoyable if I started playing the way you do. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[lablady2]

"I think hockey is probably my favorite team sport if only because there is always the chance that a massive fight will suddenly break out."

Racing - might be a car wreck. I hear ya.

Actually, I teased my husband for playing golf; I thought it was such a silly non-sport - until I picked up a driver. There's nothing quite like hitting a good, solid 150 yd. drive. When you hit the ball just right, it makes this certain sound, kind of intoxicating .... or maybe it just feels good to whack the heck out of something and not have to go to jail for it.

The thing I like about golf is that it's a very mental game; one bad shot can start a downward spiral mentally and it's a challenge to see if you can discipline yourself to overcome it. No fun to watch on TV, though. Not a spectator sport.

[matt_hatter]

Well, my poor computer is ill, has some kind of virus. Probably to most of you, the sheer joy of not having to read the Hatter is beyond words. Can post a little here at work, although I should be working. Ha!

Here to hoping the Doctor of Data can fix me up.
Blessings to all!

[lablady2]

matt: probably caught it here. There's been something going around. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif

[matt_hatter]

"There's been something going around."

Would that be a narcissistic personality disorder?

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe07.html

LOL!

[j2theperson]

Matt, be a champ--lay your hands on your computer and rebuke the viral spirit in the name of Christ.

[matt_hatter]

Tried that, as I actually remembered 'nasso doing that to an air conditioner in a beat up trailer we lived in at Auburn pre Maranatha days. Didn't work then, but what the heck, I gave it the old college try, and didn't work now.

Just call me a chump.

[mcmstaff78]

I don't believe in getting computer viruses - they're a lie of the devil. I belong to the Mary Baker Eddy school of Computer Science!!

[lablady2]

Ah, the beloved DSM IV, or as it's known in our clan, the OTHER family bible.

[lablady2]

Oh, I believe in viruses - if there is SIN IN YOUR LIFE! I'm thinkin' matt's computer needs a little Hootah session.

[lablady2]

And, lately, I seem to believe in repeating other's posts apparently. Time to get out the DSM...again.

[matt_hatter]

"I seem to believe in repeating other's posts apparently"

haha, lab would that be a Tourette's tic??

I read the DSM frequently, to see what particular disorder fits my "personality of the week".

Great line, the other family bible. (snare drum+cymbal) You are ready for the Catskills, you Jewish American Princess. hahahaha

[lablady2]

Joke:

A Jewish grandmother is taking her little grandson for a walk on the Jersey shore on a crisp, fall day.

Suddenly, the little boy darts away from her, gets too near the ocean and is swept away by a wave.

The grandmother lifts her arms and begins to wail "Dear God, please, please, save this, my only grandson, my beloved. I beg you, God. Save him!"

Immediately, a huge roiling, wave rises from the ocean, carrying the little boy back to the shore and deposits him safely at his grandmother's feet.

She inspects the child, and looks up toward heaven says, "He had a hat."

[matt_hatter]

I am LMAO. Probably not an appropriate acronym for some, but it's just me-n-you Lab, OK, back to work!
"disease of the gentiles"....Miltie, give me a break.

[lablady2]

Looking in the DSM for the disorder LMAO (evil grin).

You should join us at Temple for the oneg following Shabbat services some Friday night (formally, oneg means "joy or delight of fellowship" Informally, it means "let's eat stuff together") or for Bible study on Saturday morning. Serious stuff aside, sometimes my sides literally ache from laughing so hard.

[j2theperson]

Hahahah.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[matt_hatter]

To make the sardonic J2 respond with a simple "hahahahttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif " means that she still has many soft spots in that delightfully sarcastic cardiac ticker. We old folks got your back. Keep smiling, it will keep you mighty healthy!

It's gonna be in the 50's in Alabama tonight!
Heat wave in Packer Nation. Cheese heads, oh brother! Hey, who took my hot pork skins and boiled peanuts? Dang you AllieCat!!!

[flo1151]

matt,
You are not under the covering.

flo

[matt_hatter]

Maybe not, but I sure as h-e-double toothpicks am gonna find a comforter tonight. Didn't you say under the covers??? LOL

[wildwood_]

Hatter! You should know from living in the country that from time to time...in addition to the phrase "Don't feed it...it will stay" is the follow up..."Don't pet it...it could have rabies...". I've given up worrying about the computer &amp; viruses (Ron's picked up "Bugs" twice from the "safe" Military Sites)...I have come to the conclusion that my Anti-Virus Software &amp; Anti-Spy Software and in general Anti-Software-Software... goes out and deliberately retrieves viruses...thereby making me think it necessary to "Upgrade"...which of course I do. As far as I know, no virus now...but what really goes in inside my computer &amp; who it's really talking to &amp; what it is saying... Anyone ever listen to Coast-to-Coast late at night??? I heard rumors of a gathering of an Army of Blogging Armadillos...marching towards Alabama...with plans to recruit Bovine Webmasters...something about visiting a MadHatter's PC with a "Get Well Soon" card... http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif Is that Electric Fence always on? Remember don't touch them if they make it to the house. Hope your computer feels better soon. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[j2theperson]

Bah! Coast-To-Coast AM is no fun since Art Bell left. All that spooky stuff about shadow people and remote viewing was pretty funny. I especially liked it when the major nut-jobs called in; they were actually not that different from some of the people in EN.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

As far as I know, my computer doesn't have any viruses on it...right now. Wildwood, if you're using Internet Explorer as your webbrowser that would explain why you have a virus. Try getting a different brower like Firefox (http://www.mozilla.com/) or Netscape (http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/); they're somewhat less vulnerable to spyware, adware and such. I use Netscape, personally, and I really like it.

[matt_hatter]

"Is that Electric Fence always on?"

Yes, and another word of advice to men....watch out for that wire should nature call. Continous stream is a heck of an electrical conductor. Maybe that excludes most of us MCM graybeards. Dang hate I said all of that. Too late now....oh well, it is the bunny trail.

I had to bravely disengage a porker from the electric fence in my late teens. Poor thing got hung in it and the squeal was blood curdling. I grabbed his hind quarters and yanked hard, and received several major jolts as the voltage jumped from one liquid filled mammal to another (me). We called that particular pig "Nixon" because he had HUGE jowls. Made some kinda good soul food dish to somebody back then....

And oh...the computer. We've got something that is blocking all of our live updates from Norton, Windows, Dell, etc. So far, no nasty pop ups, but with a disabled firewall, it seems to be only a matter of time. I look at internet history pretty closely with a red blooded 15 yr old male in the house.

[lablady2]

"Continous stream is a heck of an electrical conductor. Maybe that excludes most of us MCM graybeards."

Unfortunately, continuous stream may be the defining feature of the 50 plus year multipara. Not sure which is worse, friend.

Hippity hop.

[matt_hatter]

OK, I am outta here...no factnet until I am back on duty tomorrow, as we say down here, "hold it in the road!" hippity hop back at ya!

[wisedove]

I had SOOOOOO much fun watching the SAINTS play like champs last night, I can't even stand it.

[flo1151]

I hope the superdome was lined with times picyune because dirty birds crapped the h_ll out of the place.

[flo1151]

wise,

Congradulations on a well earned victory.

flo

[wisedove]

Thanks, flo, on behalf of the entire New Orleans Region, and gulf south, for that matter. I couldn't contain myself last night after that blocked punt and return for a TD. I thought my husband was gonna lock me up somewhere. My kids had just settled down for bed....I had to get a grip!!! (for a moment, forgot I was a mom who needed to get up at 6:00 a.m. to fix breakfast for 2 little ones before school...SCHOOL? That was not on my mind last night!)

[wisedove]

Local coverage on the game began here at 3:00 p.m. with live music on the street, and continued on until the game was over. Just seeing the difference in the way the dome looked after Katrina and how they got things ready for last night in only 7 months, I think, is pretty amazing...

Thanks for letting me ramble about this a bit here! The atmosphere around here is ELECTRIC..(Yes, Lord, I know it's just a game, but I think it symbolizes more for the region. Thank you, God, for letting us get excited about a football game...)

[matt_hatter]

Good morning all...it is a great day in the deep south, in the low 60's, and I have contemplated just taking the day off and heading down to the farm, got one more deer stand to put up. Hmm....nah, better wait till the weekend, the boy will be furious.

Growing up at Ft. Rucker, we used to check in at homeroom at Enterprise High School and head to the beach. We could be on the sand drinking Old Milwaukee in an hour and a half, and back home in time to watch the Bugs Bunny cartoons on channel 12 at 4.

By my senior year, I began to think that there was more to life than this. It took a year of scratching my head before the Master met me on the Emmaus Road my first year of college. Those early years, pre MCM, were wonderful. Jesus Music and my guitar. Still remember the sheet music books from Barry McGuire and Second Chapter. Randy Stonehill...wow...burning my Black Sabbath albums. My brother thought I was crazy. I was, crazy in love with Christ.

Those were the days that lived in my heart through all of the MCM days. They were real. He was real, not some doctrine/rules/set of standards to impress the world with...the Green Berets....how utterly sinful, we ignored whole sections of Christ's words...the first being last.

Those early days come back strong to me now. The junk...not so much. As with most things in life, the real things stick and the fluff, well, it just blows away if you let it.

Matt

[mdillon]

"world's gone insane
people blowin' out their brains
jumpin' off of bridges
lyin' down in front of trains

but there's a Peace......." -Barry McGuire

ahhhh mattie wonderful flashback, thank you. wow, bro it was 30 years ago right this fall that I heard His Song playing for me. It would be only a matter of months before the 'green berets' came to Knoxville, but the year proceeding I succumbed to His wooing and love for me. It would be this short time of renewal with Him that would keep me through the latter years of insanity gone to seed and then bring me back Home again.

anybody seen my phil keaggy albums.....?

dillyeaux

[coppertree]

<font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Hi All
Yes, I remember the summer that I met Him. It was wonderful, hot Kentucky muggy days. I was working with thoroughbreds that summer. The prior summer I spent chasing spring up the Rockies. I was finishing my teaching degree, and I began to pray again to Him, as I had done when I was young. I had many electrifying experiences with Him, alone. I am also glad for those times before the storm of Maranatha. It would turn out that I needed that time with Him, alone.}

[matt_hatter]

dilly, SteveO actually has a CD that has a live song and the guys bring out this "fantastic" guitarist named Phil Keaggy. I got to share with him all about this guitarist.

dilly I found your comment most intersting...

"It would be this short time of renewal with Him that would keep me through the latter years of insanity"

It seems several of us had this experience in common; the eternal flame, through all the garbage, that kept us, that First Love, knowing buried deep in the heart that the grace so lovingly revealed prior to the days of religious fanatacism would find its way out...and keep us in His arms.
Matt

[ginger1]

I remember Phil Keaggy, That was looooong time ago. Last night I was going through Itunes. Listening to Barry Manilow , Bee Gees , Carpenters and Rod Stewart .
I was checking out also Amy Grant second album age to age. I finally bought that, I missed those songs when i was just newly born again, still innocent LOL !
I want to get the old feeling of our first love toward the Lord. I get tired of the new songs coming out. can't keep up with it any longer.

[j2theperson]

Who is Phil Keaggy, and what's so great about him?

[matt_hatter]

Someone asked Jimi Hendrix if he was the best guitarist in the world, he replied, "Go ask that question to Phil Keaggy."

Phil was a great Christian artist back in the Jesus Movement, who was/is one of the most talented gutarist on the planet.

[ginger1]

LOL !!! J2 , you do not know Phil Keaggy ? Oh geez, we are getting old...
I remember Phil Driscoll, sad thing happened to him though..One of the best trumpet player...

Was it Phil keaggy has only 4 fingers ?

[matt_hatter]

Was it Phil keaggy has only 4 fingers ?

You are correct Ginger! You win the Daily Double!!

[j2theperson]

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>

Ginger: LOL !!! J2 , you do not know Phil Keaggy ? Oh geez, we are getting old... <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
It might not be a matter of age. It could just be that I've never closely followed the christian music scene. Beethoven, yes. Metallic, yes. Sinatra, yes. Christian music...not so much. But, if Phil Keaggy is held in such high esteem by secular musicians then I might have to check him out. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

(Message edited by j2theperson on September 27, 2006)

[matt_hatter]

http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storycode=15473

Here's a little article on Phil in Guitar Player magazine. Some of it technical guitar talk, but interesting.

[wildwood_]

I recently "found" my two favorite 90 minute casette tapes (made from those old fashioned things called LPs...), close to 30 years old...I think... Phil Keaggy on one side, Chuck Girard on the other...they still played! And I guess most of those songs have been playing in the background of my thoughts for years..."Lay Your Burden Down" (Girard) and "Love Broke Through"...humming them now...

Enjoy Keaggy J2t! Just like old cars...some hold up better than others and just keep moving on down the road..... Phil Keaggy--wow, guess in way, I'm still traveling with him...8 Track, LP, Cassette, CD or MP3...quite a trip so far... http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[matt_hatter]

http://www.philkeaggy.com/

This is his web site.
There are a couple song samples with some of his subtle guitar rifts that people have 'tried' to imitate for years on the home page.

[ginger1]

I have just purchased some Kenny Rogers songs. J2, if you do not know Kenny Rogers, then I am really old.

The Gambler

[j2theperson]

Don't worry, Ginger. You're not that old.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[lablady2]

I used to love Phil Keaggy. In fact, he and his wife lost a son, Ryan,to prematurity and Phil wrote a beautiful song called "We Won't Be Cryin', Ryan." I loved that song and decided to name my third child Ryan if it were it a boy. Ironically, my son Ryan was born prematurely and I thought of that song often during the first 30 precarious days of my son's life, wondering if I would be using it at his funeral.

Anyhoo, I hadn't thought of Phil Keaggy in years until his name was mentioned here, so I decided to check out his website.

GULP.

I see this pic and I'm thinking, "Ok. There's Phil's grandpa, but where is Phil?". Ouch!
Ouch. And ouch again.

I'm swearing off mirrors for three days.

[wildwood_]

Lablady...at least the songs don't age. Unless it's Kenny Rogers videos shown too closely together.... Oh, Ginger! I love Kenny's voice, but I miss seeing his face...he looks sort of like Lee Majors now. J2t...that's a very cute man from Kentucky...long, long ago... $ 6 Million Dollar Man...kinda cheap by today's prices.

I'm trying to have all my mirrors removed from the house but my husband thinks that he shaves better using one. So, a small hand held one...seems fine...isn't that why they invented the safety razor??

[mdillon]

hey labby, thanks for the note. been on hiatus.

happy new year to you

dillyeaux

[ginger1]

I think Kenny Roger is a better singer than Barry Manilow. Kenny has more soul to his song. Just my thought . http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

I bought a few of his song , you decorated my life , Through the years , The Gambler and Island in the streams with Dolly Parton.
Remember those songs ?...

[wildwood_]

oh...Ginger! I remember, I still HAVE those clothes, guess I should clear out my closet...but "You Decorated My Life"...and then Dolly (who has the most perfect voice ever...singing her song "I Will Always Love You"...way before Whitney did it and did her "Dolly Who?" when asked about the writer of the song. BUT Kenny...Coward of the County!!! "I promised you, Dad, not to do the things you done.
I've walked away from trouble when I can.
<font face="times new roman,times,roman">Now please don't think I'm weak, I didn't turn the other cheek,
and Papa, I sure hope you understand:
Sometimes you gotta fight when you're a man."</font>
Them Gatlin boys...naughty, naughty...

[wildwood_]

oh...Ginger! I remember, I still HAVE those clothes, guess I should clear out my closet...but "You Decorated My Life"...and then Dolly (who has the most perfect voice ever) "I Will Always Love You"...way before Whitney did it and asked "Dolly Who?" BUT Kenny...Coward of the County!!!

<font face="times new roman,times,roman">"I promised you, Dad, not to do the things you done.
I've walked away from trouble when I can.</font>
<font face="times new roman,times,roman">Now please don't think I'm weak, I didn't turn the other cheek,
and Papa, I sure hope you understand:
Sometimes you gotta fight when you're a man."</font>
Them Gatlin boys...naughty, naughty...

Now who has some Johnny Cash...Ring of Fire???

[j2theperson]

As far as country singers go, no one can stand up to Johnny Cash. And I don't say that simply because he's "in" right now. He had the coolest voice.

[j2theperson]

Argh! I post about Johnny Cash and then I discover that as I was posting Wildwood was also mentioning him. Well, you know what they say about great minds.

"I Feel Better All Over"

[wildwood_]

I'm seeing cows running amuck in a Wisconsin Grogery store...if I leave now, I should be there within...oh 3 to 4 days....longer if I stop to let the Dog out to go potty.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif I'll be bringing my own Ring of Fire with me.

Finally PROOF We both obviously have GREAT MINDS!!

[ginger1]

I know that song, Coward of the county ! I am still searching in Itunes.
I was searching for some old song,and I remembered Shawn Cassidy and ITunes does not sell them ! I said "hey Hon, Itunes does not sell Shawn Cassidy". he replied "you know, Itunes only sell Classy Artist".

I remember on the 5th grade and 6th grade . All the girls raved about him ! LOL !

And J2 if you do not know Shawn Cassidy. Here is a picture
http://www.coolbeans.com/cb6/shawn.htm

[j2theperson]

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>

Ginger: And J2 if you do not know Shawn Cassidy. Here is a picture<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Ermmm. No. Emphatically, no.

My tastes run a little more along these lines (http://website.lineone.net/~braithwaitej/mainsite/overview/actors/brynner.htm).

[mcmstaff78]

Everyone knows jazz is where it's at. Give me some 50s Miles Davis, Hank Mobley or Charles Mingus anyday!! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif

But if you want blue eyed soul? Get thee to 70s vintage Van Morrison! (Of course his "Magic Time" release from a couple years ago is very nice as well.)

[lablady2]

I love Van Morrison. My secret crush. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif

[wisedove]

don't know keagy or keagly, is it? Sadly, Some artists my parents liked are the only ones I can think of from before "my time" like

Roy Orbison, Buddy Holly, (dad) Elvis (mom) Cat Stevens (dad). There were others...I can still (and it still happens) hear my dad telling me to "listen to the words" of one of Roy's songs, or anther one of his favorites. to this day, he will say, "Have you ever listened to the WORDS?" (yeah, every time it came on with you in the car, you'd make sure we'd listen to the WORDS."

[speakword2004]

Strange the syncronicities or something similar I suppose. Had a case of the prostate a few days ago. Revived dialogue in my head between myself and doctor and suddenly I was feeling very much healed or at least my attitude towards it changed very quickly.

BTW Ginger, Kenny had a facelift. He now has skin smoother than Dolly's. Gollee!

[matt_hatter]

I think Kenny and Capt Kirk must go to the same Plastic Sawbones in Hollyweird.

Age gracefully for cryin' out loud!

J2, the group that SteveO says Phill Keaggy sits in on with is Dispatch. They are almost listenable to me...but I have to purge myself with some Cash AND George Jones. (Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes?) Makes me wanna pull over, grab a RR out of the cooler in the pickup bed, and spike it with a few human tears.

What is that blue light behind me?? OH, it is just Sgt Miltie...can bribe him with 3, or is it 4 RR's!

[wisedove]

Miltie? where are you? have you not made it back from the superdome after your blocked punt and field goals?

[matt_hatter]

Miltie is busy building a log cabin. Just call him Charles Ingalls. Little House on the Plateau.

Observation: With the exception of the bunny trail threads, Factnet has become a predictable and tiring exercise of having to respond to the nonsensical ramblings of a troll. It is just about to run me off--but I enjoy the fellowship here too much. A simple solution would be to not read or respond, however, human nature loves to watch the train wreck.

Miltie, don't tell Allie there is frost on the Plateau again. She almost turned in her resignation. I can't let that happen; I have this lifestyle to maintain, y'know.

[lablady2]

"Observation: With the exception of the bunny trail threads, Factnet has become a predictable and tiring exercise of having to respond to the nonsensical ramblings of a troll. It is just about to run me off--but I enjoy the fellowship here too much. A simple solution would be to not read or respond, however, human nature loves to watch the train wreck"

oh, matt, how true. I often wonder why I am still here. I've already taken a hit this morning, before I had coffee, evern. No fair.

I'll tell you why I'm still here. There are a few people here (you're at the top of my list) who are so funny and delightful that you outweigh the negative ugliness that abounds. Apparently, I'll do almost anything for a laugh.

The hope of fellowship, tolerance, and understanding I receive from the few counterbalances the other stuff. Love is always more powerful.

[wisedove]

ll,
I hope you are not implying what I said to you on the other thread as a "hit". What did you mean above?

Yes, I am here mostly for the laughs, which have been few and far between lately. I decided to participate in the prophecy thread because it is an area that I tend to cherish in my heart, and it is an area I have sought the Lord for answers and truth many years.

If I offended you, once again, i apologize.

[lablady2]

No, dove, not talking about you at all! It's all good. By the way, I appreciate you asking and not assuming. We could all use more of that. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[wisedove]

continued...
I am not here, nor have I really ever been here, to outright oppose people or purposefully offend...but find myself Defending alot...but only in areas I feel strongly about, which haven't been that many!

Now, I need to go RE-Heat MY coffee! It has gotten cold. It's funny how I can drink a frozen frappucino, but if my Hot coffee turns Cold, I can't drink it....http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lame.gif

[freedom43]

I am still drinking coffee and think I may be inspired. Not that I want any of you to leave FactNet over the frustrations you are describing. But, have you considered another "private" forum for some of your fellowship? Perhaps a yahoo group or something? Just a thought.

I must admit that I agree with matt_hatter, though, there is something about human nature that enjoys the trainwreck, the conflict, the drama or whatever you want to call it.

I saw your "hit" on the other thread lablady re: your faith. Your response was awesome and full of wisdom, respect and class. High five to you. You're my hero this morning.

[lablady2]

"We could all use more of that"- meaning we could all use a good helping of that attitude.

[wisedove]

Phew! thanks!

I guess I need to read the whole thread before assuming!
hehehttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[lablady2]

freedom: do you read my mind? Yeah, I've considered other forums. Part of the problem is me; I refuse to be run off. You know that thing about a stubborn and stiffnecked people?

Just stating the truth. Everyone has a right to their belief. Period.

By the way, being a nurse is great: you can hang your own IV of coffee.

[ginger1]

Kenny had a facelift ??? but why ? What happened to his famous song "through the years ???" Wife got tired of him getting old ???

Matt, what do you mean age gracefully ??? Tell that to my Ma, she had several things done to her face, nose job, eye bags removed three times etc. One time I was so mad, she is trying to save money and spend on that instead of taking Pa to his heart doctor and getting him some medicine.
Vanity, Vanity , Vanity...

Just wondering did any of the EN leaders had some Botox ?

[wisedove]

cold, or hot?(you can hang your own IV of coffee)

[lablady2]

Gotta be lukewarm. Too cold or too hot is bad for the veins. IV will infiltrate then you have to stick yourself again. Bummer.

[freedom43]

lab -- I understand your "not wanting to be run off." I don't think that necesarily makes one stubborn or stiff-necked. As dicussed elsewhere, life can be messy. This board can be messy. That doesn't mean you run. My barometer on stuff like this is it's okay as long as it remains/feels "healthy" and brings more pleasure than pain.

On coffee, I appreciate the IV concept -- but I DO enjoy the taste! In fact, I usually get a cup of decaf after my inital 32 ounces of regular. The doctor said 2 cups -- he just didn't say how BIG.

[matt_hatter]

I sometimes wish we could have a place to chat, and that means everyone! who has ridden the old bluebird. I would be open to ideas. I don't know enough about group web sites that could be set up for that purpose.

And Dovey, my beef with you is that crappy fru-fru coffee you drink. O'Clock, baby. OK, it's on. New argument!! LOL! TRUTH: Allie keeps buying that Starbucks stuff at the Gro. store. Smelliest grounds that have ever graced my large nose. Reminds me of fermenting chicken stuff.

[ginger1]

Matt are you allowed to drink Frappucino ?

[matt_hatter]

Oh...and Ginger, regarding "aging gracefully"--- when I first started going gray, I put some "Just For MEN" in my hair, and one day out in the bright sunshine, my Dad started cracking up and told me I looked like a Duracell copper top battery. That was it. No more chemicals for this boy, well, except for the Hi Karate aftershave. Mixed with Old Spice. Allie calls me out on the patio to ward off the mosquitos.

I hide these smelly solutions from Miltie and Dilly. They've been known to drink the stuff. BTW, dill, NICE! Very nice pics!

[matt_hatter]

Ginger--SteveO buys those Fraps. and I like them. Dovey and I have an old joke about fru-fru coffee and what I call "blue collar" coffee. I actually like the cool coffees and enjoy coffee shops, mostly the little hippie shops as opposed to the Starbuck-chain style shops.

Hey, this tight-tailed conservative still has some bohemian leanings.

[coppertree]

<font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Hi All,
It is nice to hang out here for many reasons. We are across time and space on the globe, but we share fellowship with one another. How wonderful is that!}

[lablady2]

I finally stopped coloring my hair, too, matt. I got so tired of having to have the gray put on every freakin' month that I finally just gave up and let it revert to my natural blonde. So much easier.

[mdillon]

i'm smelling a bus ride here....

hey mattie, talked to milton, his new four letter word is WxOxRxK---hahahaha----but seriously, he's breaking new ground in a lot of ways, good stuff.

i'll hang around as long as all of you guys do and as long as i can still find ways to cheese off EN (hi ricey)

dillyeaux

[matt_hatter]

"i'll hang around as long as all of you guys do and as long as i can still find ways to cheese off EN (hi ricey)"

When you say Bud, you've said it all. Couldn't have put it better. Miltie? Work? and who am I to talk?

Starting up the bus. Road trip. First stop, as usual, Bethel, Brentwood, TN to pick up the human debris in the parking lot. Miss Kitty, get out the Crown. It is the only thing that will revive the poor souls.

[lablady2]

"First stop, as usual, Bethel, Brentwood, TN to pick up the human debris in the parking lot."

Hope the bus has a front loader (see what you learn when your husband buys a tractor).

[coppertree]

<font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Hi MCM78
I like jazz also. have you heard John Klemmer, a sort of John Coltrane, but saved. He does give tribute to him, Coltrane. He plays tenor sax, among other instruments, and writes his own material for the most part. }

[j2theperson]

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>

Matt: With the exception of the bunny trail threads, Factnet has become a predictable and tiring exercise of having to respond to the nonsensical ramblings of a troll. It is just about to run me off--but I enjoy the fellowship here too much. A simple solution would be to not read or respond, however, human nature loves to watch the train wreck.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
People seem to be standing up to him a bit more. When Robert Unknown started the new prophecy thread he specifically told a certain individual to keep in line. I am watching with interest to see how/if things change.

As long as I have my sarcastic humour, I can deal with almost everything in a relatively calm manner. But, try to take that away and I become a pressure cooker that will explode.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

I agree people like to watch a train wreck, but, even more than that, people like to be right and get in the last word, even if it's against a little internet troll. And, also, on a board with a religious, anti-cult theme at least some people fear that not arguing against certain idiotic statements is like a tacit endorsement of them.

[matt_hatter]

Alright, Lab, pick the destination. All your buddies are gonna treat you to a "no fare" trip. Miss Kitty will be serving all you can drink. At your age, we know that it won't cost too much, a little dab'l do ya.

Dill, get Miltie off the Plateau. Time to play.

[lablady2]

j2: I don't want to turn a bunny trail into a bunnyless trail, but this is the second time he/she/it has been confrontational with me about this issue. Unprovoked, I might add. In fact, there was an additional, more provocative post this morning but it disappeared. I don't know if he/she/it thought better of it and deleted it or if Factnet did, but I was going to copy it, paste it into an e-mail and send it to Factnet.

I'm tolerant of a lot, but harassment is where I draw the line, and it's beginning to feel a bit like that.

However, that's all I'm going to say on the subject. I want happy bunnies everywhere. I wouldn't mind shucking the religious stuff all together (I'm trying!) in favor of some bunnylicious fellowship.

[lablady2]

matt: this is so sad. This week, I just want a nap. No trips without court orders.

[j2theperson]

Yeah, lablady, I saw the stuff that was written to you. It was harsh, and it sort of surprised me because it seemed to come out of the blue. I think you handled yourself very well. I admire the way you have chosen your own spiritual course regardless of whether it's a common course or is acceptable to other people. Sincerity and honesty are very important qualities which I have seen a lot of people push aside in the name of "truth".

[wisedove]

43:I usually get a cup of decaf after my inital 32 ounces of regular. The doctor said 2 cups -- he just didn't say how BIG.

That's hilarious! Venti, for me, too...never measured the ounces....

decaf tricks my brain..still tastes the same.

Matt:And Dovey, my beef with you is that crappy fru-fru coffee you drink. O'Clock, baby. OK, it's on. New argument!! LOL!
me-I can argue this with any of you any day of the week...one day, i plan on trying to purchase my own franchise...I look at it two ways... 1.) fraps are deliciously refreshing and they get me going, and make me feel all good inside. 2.) It is my only treat to myself (aside from a new pair of shoes or handbag-even then only from the clearance rack) that I endulge in on a reg. basis.

Oh, and I like ALL coffee shops. (not just starbucks) the hippie-style, too. I'd love to see a french cafe style pop up close to my home...i go to PJ's, Starbucks, and other local coffee shops. It's truly an addiction...Ya'll can add that to your prayers for me....(I take that back)

Miltie and Dilly-all work and no play/Not good...

Glad to see the bus is rolling again.

Sameo-miss ya! (those fumes gettin to ya?) Wildwood-who's driving this time?

[ginger1]

Matt, I pull my grey out. I don't to try coloring it, what if it turn out bad. I have to live with it with a hubby who will poke fun of me every single day. Somebody always has to be a victim in this house.

I remember one of my Hubby story while he was new in the Navy. It was in hawaii. He said that the navy cafeteria gives free Cappucino. Ah, he would lots of whip cream on top of it, with springled chocolate. Pour it in a large 3 cup mug , thats every morning.
Coming from the philippines, he has no clue whats the ingredients in there. It just taste soooo good. Until a month later, they go jogging, he does not understand why he is having a hard time jogging. They jog every day, but he is breathing harder than usual.
Till he saw his shadow... and looked at that belly.... that was the end of that Cappucino.

[lablady2]

J2: Thanks for the supportive words.

Unfortunately, this person is not such an exception as you might think. And that's why we have hired security guards for the Temple on Yom Kippur Monday.

In the words of one wise sage, Kermit the frog, "It ain't easy being green." However, you gotta follow your bliss.

Hippity hop........

[wisedove]

they will add weight..hence, why i try to limit myself to 2-3 a week. 1 a week would still be a treat. like I said, addiction. It's the sugar, too, not just the caf.

[matt_hatter]

OK, Lab, don't even worry about picking the destiantion. We will let you stretch out on the back seat next to Miltie's window with a nice pillow, a fleece blanket, an IPOD, and a double shot of Crown. J2 the Vulcaness, take over the wheel, take us to one of those freaky places in your head.

Dovey, fire up the crappucino machine, I'm game.

Home computer won't be back until Sunday. Need to do some work--Y'all have fun. We all love you Lab!

[lablady2]

Matt: now you're talking!

Da feelin' is mutual.

[wildwood_]

Lablady...I don't know what I missed... I'm always at least 5 minutes everywhere I go and that's my "own" time clock. A continual source of dissatisfaction to one particular boss--who left exactly at 5pm...knowing I always worked until 7 or later &amp; took work home...of course I was still wrong. Ick.

My imagination is sufficient...sad. <font color="119911">To hear of guards at a place of worship...well, if I could &amp; it was proper &amp; not disrespectful...I'd go to services with you. Or stand outside &amp; grab a cup of coffee &amp; wait.</font>
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Hmmm, some music from the bus in the parking lot might be considered disruptive...perhaps we all file in and find a place to rest. Quietly...although given this group...unlikely...(I'd get looks from Mom for whispering in Church; now I give them to my daughter...). http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif I've become my Mom...oh dear, there's good things &amp; bad things with this. Her look though was ALL POWERFUL...mine scares my husband but leaves my child...looking back with a "I Love You Mommy" glance as she continues to ignore me.....

[matt_hatter]

WW: "perhaps we all file in and find a place to rest. Quietly..."

This group???hahahahahahahahaha....breathe.... hahahahahahaha...gasp ..... hehehehehe

WW: "although given this group...unlikely..."

Wow, WW, you are one smart cookie. Sgt Miltie may need you on the Factnet Detective Squad.

Can you imagine us all bustin' loose on a Bethel High Sunday Service???

Somebody put a leash on SameO. Maybe she will stay on the wimmings thread.

[flo1151]

lab,

You say you love van morrison. Have you heard the "philosopher's stone. I like that cut a lot?

And by the way I believe you do not deserve any abuse on this site. You have been very kind and classy(evern with my awful ranting about jews in Kentucky).

I have the utmost respect for the jewish religion and think that there were some cheap shots over there. Stay over here this is where all the fun is anyway. The only time I go over to the other threads is to hurl accusations at some of the less aware.

I think a "cow patty" thread would go over. The guys could still feel manly to participate but we would know that this is for the female factnet fraulein.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[wildwood_]

I'm imagining it and liking it...at least before the police come....I think.

Hmmm, does actually noticing the OBVIOUS count as good detective quality??? !!! I would like just to see the Factnet Badge flashed...it always triggers my "Shut Up and Laugh" reflex when I see it. It's a power best left in the safe hands of a professional!

Hmmm, Willie Nelson's bus got pulled over in Lousianna...I'm imagining the Police pulling over the Blue-ish-Orangish-Muddy (did ya'get it washed?) Bus...and all our innocent faces...going NO...See we are mostly elderly senior citizens...no flashing going on here... We've been on a 30 Year Spiritual Retreat &amp; And we're headed HOME!!! And that's cat nip...lots of cat lovers on this bus. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif And the open green bottles...Moutain Dew or Ale-8 (I miss Ale-8).

[wisedove]

wildie, (I keep changin it up-wildy to wildie) you know who you are...

I can understand the "i've become my mom thing..." some of the things I despise about myself are the character traits, errr, uh, personality traits, I adopted from both of my parents. I always say I am the best and worst of both of them, thankfully, not all at the same time...then, you'd have to have me committed..(sp)

right now, I am just trying to figure out how to help 2 youngsters prepare for 2 different spelling, math, reading, and language tests, all while i endure the movie "Sandlot" playing for the zillionth time in the background...(don't mind the movie so much...it's doing (uh, helping with) the homework that urks me sometimes....God help me.

[lablady2]

What you missed is not worth discussing. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

wild: You would be so welcome! We often have visitors and youth groups from the Church of Christ, the Methodist Church, the Catholic church, the area Charismatic chuches, etc. At times, the Christians have outnumbered the Jews at service.

I know that years ago I was often just curious, but thought that it might not be proper to attend. Not so! You would be welcomed with open arms. I think seeing the Torah service - taking the Torah from the Ark -would be something every Christian could enjoy being a part of. Often, Christian families come so their kids can see the Torah and our rabbi will answer any and all questions they have. Torah trivia - A Torah can range in price from $20,000.00 and up because they are written by hand and checked 3-7 times by reading each letter aloud. When they become worn, they are never thrown away or burned but must be buried in a Jewish cemetary.

Feel free to visit your local Temple anytime (I would suggest Reform because it might be a little easier to understand). And no one would ever suggest that you become Jewish, so you don't have to worry about that.

[wisedove]

was i rambling?http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/proud.gif

[wildwood_]

Lablady, I did not know that...I hadn't even thought of it...I'm thinking now and to see a Torah Service would be a Blessing! And a caution regarding about how "I" handle the Word of God...sometimes I think remembering the true Holiness &amp; Reverance of Worship to the Lord God Almighty...becomes a casualty of being able to climb up on my Dad's lap... Remembering Who HE IS--such as my limited brain can grasp, always seems to result in remembering who I am, what I am called to be and then the vast gulf between those two things...some days of course are better than others.... http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

Hey Dovey...YOU ARE or have been RAMBLING AND WANDERING...but not your posts...just your locations!!! How's the football team going?

I'm going to have to leave good company to herd my child to homework...Pokemon seems to be warping her mind again...drat...where'd I put the remote.... She needs something Edifying...a good Roadrunner Cartoon...

[wisedove]

Nah-try spongebob...nah, try (man, there's not much left...) we keep wearing the sandlot out. (and sandlot 2)
Yes, I've been wandering about! hehehe!

Keeps things interesting.