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mcmstaff78
10-26-2006, 06:35 PM
Okay, things have gotten a bit heated (and tiresome) in other parts of this venue (owing, of course, substantially to my own participation) so I thought I would take a moment to post my own little "bunny trail" of a thread.
Let's talk about music. William Congreve, in The mourning bride, in 1697, wrote (updated with modern spelling for clarity's sake) "Music has charms to soothe a savage breast, to soften Rocks, or bend a knotted Oak." So, in order to lend a bit of soothing refreshment and soften our (my!) rocky heart, perhaps a little musical conversation is called for.
What type of music do you like? What moves you? I'm not just talking about religious music, but any kind. There is still some good "Jesus Music" that I like (you oldtimers should remember that turn of phrase). Larry Norman, Daniel Amos, even old Resurrection (Rez) Band (Dilly, what band was it whose LP I was playing in the M'Boro bookstore one day when you asked me "are they even Christian?"?). Been a blues fan for ages, even pre-Maranatha (one of the first "guilty pleasures" post MCM was the purchase of a double-LP by (the original) Fleetwood Mac recorded at Chess Records in Chicago that had Otis Spann and Buddy Guy and a few other bluesmen sitting in with them in the studio. For those who don't know, Fleetwood Mac was originally a blues band.) I am also a huge Van Morrison fan. You can throw just about any Van the Man in a CD player or out of your Ipod and you will catch me stopping to listen and, like as not, sing along. Late 60s, early 70s "classic rock"? I'm there as well, with a few exceptions.
But I must say my musical passion these days is for Jazz. Yep, the music our fathers listened to, at least the genre. Since about the beginning of the year I have gotten seriously immersed in 50's and early 60's Jazz. Cool Jazz, soul jazz, hard bop. Guys like Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Charles Mingus and Thelonious Monk; Art Blakey and Hank Mobley; Bill Evans and Cannonball Adderly. These guys could flat out play.
So, what about it? Anybody else out there want to jump on the soul trane (get it, a little play on...oh, never mind) and share what type of music tames your savage breast?
(Message edited by mcmstaff78 on October 26, 2006)
MCM,
Nice to see you taking a "right-brain" break.
When Forword (my husband) gets a chance, 'I'm sure he's going to jump right in...He LOVES jazz...and he's all about music. He truly APPRECIATES music (and writes a little too...softer instrumental stuff).
One of my ALLtime favorites is Louis Armstrong....people don't know he's got more than "hello dolly" going on. This post is making me think, go put some of that on...thanks, MCM.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif
mcmstaff78
10-26-2006, 08:28 PM
Dust - my dad is a huge Satchmo fan. I really appreciate him, and realize he is truly a seminal genius on the American music scene, but he doesn't move me the way some of his followers in jazz do.
My dad is early jazz, all the way. He was born in the 20s and the jazz of the 20s and 30s is his favorite. Funny, I was born in the 50s, and the jazz of the 50s and early 60s (I can't get into free or acid jazz from the 60s yet) is my favorite. But Louis is certainly a monster.
coppertree
10-26-2006, 08:43 PM
<font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Hi all,
Yes mcm 78, music that soothes the savage beast from the Bard, a Renaissance gift to all of us!!
Have you heard John Klemmer, he plays an tenor sax, and writes his own stuff. He is a Christian, as he says in "Touch" in a new and living way. You can find him on Amazon, and hear his stuff. He does in "Mosaic" pay homage to Coltrane.}
People just need to HEAR him. Somehow I purchased a collection of his when I was in my early 30's, kind of young to be listening to this type of music, but it's so happy, earthy, salty.......Everyone needs to have one good Satchmo experience...
wisedove
10-26-2006, 09:26 PM
mcm,
if you're around New Orleans, you know there's lots of jazz goin on....
Thanks for starting another bunny thread. I won't be able to be on here much. taking a get-away with lady friends...hehehe
HITTIN the beach. (even though it's cold.) (coool, let me clarify that for J2!)
dove
we have violin lessons weekly. I like the viloin and piano. and drums, and guitar, heck, I guess i just like music...
mdillon
10-26-2006, 10:51 PM
jd-Dilly, what band was it whose LP I was playing in the M'Boro bookstore one day when you asked me "are they even Christian?
as per usual, jon, i haven't the foggiest. sounds like I asked the question in an uppity religious tone, so for that I will offer these as penance:
Van Morrison, Allman Brothers, The Band, Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young. There are many songs and lyrics by these bands and artists that truly do move me and i'm not just bunny thumping here.
Definitely Miles and Coltrane--wanna expand my jazz tastes, had a Thelonius Monk CD in my hand last week but passed. I'll go back and get it now. My Paddywagon has turned me on to Smashing Pumpkins, U2, Tool, Perfect Circle, Ben Harper, Ray LaMontagne.
but i just gotta say, guitar and piano solos by Dickey Betts and Duane and Greg Allman make me dance the demons away.
dilly
matt_hatter
10-26-2006, 10:59 PM
"but i just gotta say, guitar and piano solos by Dickey Betts and Duane and Greg Allman make me dance the demons away."
Whippin' Post on the IPOD makes the walk seem like it took 15 min instead of an hour. Go dilly go! The opening bass riff...wow.
mcmstaff78
10-26-2006, 11:06 PM
Okay, being a Georgia boy you know the Brothers are one of my favorites as well. Saw them in concert long time ago, but post-Duane (much to my chagrin). I've got probably close to 200 live shows of their's if you guys are ever interested.
Dilly, for a first taste of Thelonious, seek out "Brilliant Corners". It is, indeed, brilliant. Also check out Charles Mingus, try "Mingus Ah Um" or "Roots and Blues" first. A wicked bassist and a dude with one serious attitude.
mdillon
10-26-2006, 11:15 PM
what do you mean 200 live shows, jon? hey, I am always up for anything Allman.
Thank you for mentoring me into my continuing jazz studies. I shall partake. Am also open to matching libations to the mood as per your wisdom.
mattie, Live at the Fillmore East baby! from wikipedia-and is generally accepted as one of the greatest live recordings in the history of rock music.
dilly
matt_hatter
10-26-2006, 11:23 PM
"OK, the Allman Brothers Band!"
And...then....Statesboro Blues....
"Wake up mama, turn your lamp down low...."
BEST live rock album everrrrrr dilly.
I knew you dudes were blood brothers. Yea, Jon wut up with the 200 live shows??? cool!
mcmstaff78
10-26-2006, 11:24 PM
Well, in case you were unaware, the Allmans have always been a "taper friendly" band, like the Grateful Dead. A few years back I got into collecting and trading lives shows (with litterally thousands of live shows, I no longer have the space or the inclination) and guess I have a least 200 Allman Brothers shows. For awhile I kept up a list that you can see if you'd like. Just contact me at mcmstaff78[at]gmail.com and I'll point you to my list. All you've got to do is provide "B&P" (blanks and postage) and I'll burn whatever you'd like.
mcmstaff78
10-26-2006, 11:27 PM
For the hard core Allmans fan, check out their official website (http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/index.php). They have a live show database that is pretty cool.
matt_hatter
10-26-2006, 11:28 PM
Interesting! jon, I saw the Allmans in Auburn when I was a soph. in high school, long before MCM ever corrupted the campus, btw.
It was soon after Duane's death, but Berry Oakley was still alive. Dickey was "playin' that red guitar".
mcmstaff78
10-26-2006, 11:30 PM
Oh, and Mark, use to be you had to drink a PBR (that's Pabst Blue Ribbon for you unintiates) when watching/listening to the Allmans, but nowadays any good, local micro-brew will do - a good one from Georgia is Sweetwater. Another is Red Brick Ale, which is stunning on draft!!
mdillon
10-26-2006, 11:36 PM
ok i'm down with the shows jon, mucho thanks. good lord mattie is this heaven?
a few years back my little dillys bought pops tix for Allmans at Starwood in Nashboro. Made me a proud papa.
jon, i got no worries with Southern Rock Brew, just wanted to expand my thirst into jazzworld.
mcmstaff78
10-26-2006, 11:41 PM
Let's see, what to drink when listening to Jazz? I hadn't really thought of that, though the first thing that pops into my mind is a martini (not that I've ever had one of those things, mind you}. But what brew? Hmmm....something German comes to mind. Nice and hoppy. No, wait, I've got it, a Pilsner Urquel. The original pilsner beer from what is now the Czech Republic. Yeah, that's the ticket!
mdillon
10-27-2006, 12:01 AM
ahhhh- the blues of Statesboro mattie.....
'well, I looked over in the corner, and sameo seemed to have them too...'
mcmstaff78
10-27-2006, 12:03 AM
Okay, a treat for you Allmans fans. Click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXKbB8laU4). You will not regret it.
mdillon
10-27-2006, 12:25 AM
wow jon, thanks. i'm whipped. and merry christmas to you, too.
dilly
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 12:37 AM
Im goin to the country,
baby do you wanna go?
But if you cant make it baby,
your sister SAMEO said she wanna go.
(and I sure will take her).
Dang dilly, I am glad for our sake that her hubby "ain't wastin' time no mo' " on factnet, we might be in trouble. haha
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 12:45 AM
jon, I went back in time to 1972, the Auburn Coluseium. What a great memory!! Thanks brother to brother.
coppertree
10-27-2006, 12:48 AM
<font face="arial,helvetica"></font>Hi All
I have something for you from left field, Chieftains ( Irish Music, and more) their CD 'The Long Black Veil, title cut sung by Mick Jaggar. It is the Tenna. Waltz sung by Tom Jones ( welsh) . too. Van Morrision and Sting are on this CD singing I rish songs also. I think that one probably drinks all day and then plays this; did I say that it was recorded at Frank Zappa's, place with him looking on. Finding music for my friend that likes Zappa, this will be a good fit.}}
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 12:49 AM
The crescendo at the 8 minute mark still sends chills...whew!
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 12:55 AM
Hey copper, small world, Allie has a number of Cheiftans CD's and they are fun to listen to on a trip. Easy to clap the old horse hoofs to. LOL!
mdillon
10-27-2006, 01:43 AM
love the celts c-tree and thanks for the Chieftains tip-- I found them one day while I was taking a Van ride--will add this title to my collection as well.
mcmstaff78
10-27-2006, 01:44 AM
Mattie, glad you enjoyed it. Duane was incredible, no? Such a shame. Every now and then I *still* get melancholoy over his death.
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 03:38 AM
I was always amazed, given that I was a very average guitarist, how Betts and Allman could jam for that lenght of time, harmonizing those lead guitar/slide guitar rifts to perfection.
It left me scratching my menial guitar playing head many times.
miltietoast
10-27-2006, 03:43 AM
free bird
speakword2004
10-27-2006, 10:03 AM
Well
Seeing that it is getting a tad busy with ole Mose in the other threads (The dawg's busier than a centipede at a toe-counting contest. -Leghorn Foghorn) I thought I would skeddale down this side and join the interlude loonies again.
That dawg's as subtle as a hand grenade in a barrel 'a oatmeal.
"Wike I said before: Once a bad ol' putty tat, awways a bad ol' putty tat." -Tweetie
You know, the <font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font> gato needs one of those psycholico... um... psycholica...um... you know, one of those head shreenking fellows.
-Seedy Gonzales
Sorry Jon, do the voices in my head bother you?
speakword2004
10-27-2006, 10:21 AM
Now how we can we have a musical interlude without a dance?
Bug?!:
Promenade across the floor. Sasche right on out the door. Out the door and into the glade and everybody promenade. Step right up you're doing fine. I'll pull your beard you'll pull mine. Yank it again like you did before. Break it up with a tug of war. Now into the brook and fish for the trout. Dive right in and splash about. Trout! Trout! Pretty little trout! One more splash and come right out. Shake like a hound-dog. Shake again. Wallow around in the old pig pen. Wallow some more. Y'all know how. Roll around like an old fat sow. Alamand left with your right hand. Follow through with a great left band. Now lead your partner the dirty old thing. Follow through with an elbow swing. Grab a fence post. Hold it tight. Womp your partner with all your might. Hit him in the shin. Hit him in the head. Hit him again. The critter aint dead. Womp him low and womp him high. Stick your finger in his eye. Pretty little ring. Pretty little sound. Bang your heads against the ground. Promenade all around the room. Promenade like a bride and groom. Open up the door and step right in. Close the door and into a spin. Whirl! Whirl! Twist and twirl! Jump all around like a flying squirrel. Now don't you fuss and don't you swear. Just come right out and form a square. Now right hand over and left hand under. Both join hands and run like thunder. Over the hill and over the dale. Duck your head and lift your tail. Don't you stray and don't you roam. Turn to your partner. Promenade home. Corn in the cornfield. Wheat in the sack. Turn to your partner. Promenade back. And now you're home. Bow to your partner. Bow to the gent across the hall. And that is all!
speakword2004
10-27-2006, 11:06 AM
My theory:
Playground bullies always have a reason.
Meredith: After careful consideration and many sleepless nights, here’s what I've decided. There's no such thing as a grown-up. We move on, we move out, we move away from our families and form our own. But the basic insecurities, the basic fears and all those old wounds just grow up with us. And just we think life and circumstances have forced us truly to become an adult, your mother says something like that. Or worse, something like that. We get bigger, we get taller, we get older. But, for the most part, we're still a bunch of kids, running around the playground, trying desperately to fit in.
Yesterday [season 2.18 Grey's Anatomy]
ulyankee
10-27-2006, 02:29 PM
<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>
I was always amazed, given that I was a very average guitarist, how Betts and Allman could jam for that lenght of time, harmonizing those lead guitar/slide guitar rifts to perfection.
It left me scratching my menial guitar playing head many times.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
These days John Mayer leaves me doing the same. Though fellow VW-hawker Slash almost convinced my hubby we needed to buy a VW, until I in turn convinced him that the guitars they're giving away are basically the same things they sell at Wal-Mart. If I want one bad enough, I'll probably be able to find them on eBay or the local pawn shops within the next several weeks, if they're not there already (haven't checked), lol. Despite the VW thang, John Mayer is just so deceptively GOOD particularly in how he can play rhythm and lead sooo effortlessly at the same time.
On the bass side, whenever I start thinking I'm getting pretty good a little JACO (Pastorius - Weather Report) cures that. What a tragedy he was.
Another fave of mine is Bela Fleck with or without the Flecktones (but mostly with). I saw them live at Troy Music Hall (http://www.troymusichall.org) (NY) several years ago (a WONDERFUL venue to see live acts - almost perfect acoustics), and then when I lived in Nashville saw Roy "Futureman" Wooten hanging out at Bongo Java and brother Victor once at Baja Burrito. Victor's another bassist who cures me of bass-pride fer sure.
(Message edited by ulyankee on October 27, 2006)
mcmstaff78
10-27-2006, 02:38 PM
Those of you who are into bluesy guitar, if you haven't seen Clapton's "Crossroads Festival" DVD you should treat yourself. Lots of incredible guitarists at their best 'cause it's all going for a cause (John Mayer appeared at the festival...). While I pretty much liked it all (I have a six CD RoIO of the whole thing - I think it's six CDs, may be more), I think my favorite was actually James Taylor's set.
sameo
10-27-2006, 02:45 PM
mdilly:"ahhhh- the blues of Statesboro mattie.....
'well, I looked over in the corner, and sameo seemed to have them too..."
SameO:"Well, I'm SOUTHBOUND Lord, I'm comin' home to you, I got that ol' lonesome feelin' that's sometimes called the blues..."
sameo
10-27-2006, 02:51 PM
78': I love 'sweet baby James!'
speakword2004
10-27-2006, 03:04 PM
I'm an amateur Blues fan who would rather listen to the Blues on digital radio then contemporary music. Clapton being my favourite. In the last two weeks I have been listening to and enjoying:
Greenday (Last DVD live in UK)
ELO (DVD 1978 in London)Which was interesting as I have just finished Sharon Osbourne's aitobiography and her dad and brother were their managers)
Fleetwood Mac: not the very old stuff but chains, beautiful child etc.
Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra (all the sing-a-long stuff I can find-I get a kick from it for some reason)
Red Hot Chilli Peppers (latest album, but too much for me and will not listen further)
Evanesance (latest album which I must finish this weekend)
The Doors (compilation DVD Boxset-have to wait for wife to leave the house before completing)
The London Philharmonic Choor sings Praise - 18 choral masterpieces
A Gospel Bluegrass Homecoming vol 2 which was fun to watch on a boring Saturday night last week)
And if my wife and 5 year old will let me I need to finish Morgan Freeman's narration of "Last of the Misissippi Jukes" but they never let me alone on the weekends so that one will have to wait a while.
Two weeks ago I went to see my favourite local Folk Rock band: Watershed. This weekend we would have gone to see Billy Joel live (his concerts here are soldout) but I could only get standing room tickets only and as my wife is 5'2" she wouldn't enjoy that.
So I am all music-ed out for now.O' and 3 weeks ago we bought my father-in-law a whole collection of DVDs for his new home theatre and so I had to sit through 2 hours of Tony Bennet (boring)
ulyankee
10-27-2006, 03:07 PM
Wow, James Taylor live is a treat... saw him at Saratoga Performing Arts Center (like Starwood for you Nashvillians, but better, hehe) maybe 10 or 11 years ago. I think a friend had tix b/c I never was a huge James Taylor fan before then--there's only so many times you can hear "Fire and Rain" covered in coffee house open mic nights and not eventually gag... But he is incredible live, I agree.
mdillon
10-27-2006, 03:15 PM
sameo i knew me and mattie could conjure you here with some Allman Bros. hymns. little did we know that mcm78 is our guardian southern rock angel who also likes stout. ain't God good.
dilly
miltietoast
10-27-2006, 03:18 PM
ul I used to go to SPAC all the time whenI lived in Schenectady The Who,Emerson Lake and Palmer some I do not remember,wonder why?
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 03:19 PM
"there's only so many times you can hear "Fire and Rain" covered in coffee house open mic nights and not eventually gag."
The key word is open mic--others doing his stuff, gag for sho'. James Taylor, singing Fire and Rain? I can hit the "repeat" button on the CD over and over and over...
mdillon
10-27-2006, 03:20 PM
sameo i knew me and mattie could conjure you here with some Allman Bros. hymns. little did we know that mcm78 is our guardian southern rock angel who also likes stout. ain't God good.
dilly
miltietoast
10-27-2006, 03:21 PM
interlude to music
joke overheard at wedding deals with VW's
"How do you fit an elephant into a VW? It is easy you take the f out of fat and the f out of way"
mattie got it
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 03:26 PM
There's no f-in-way.
ulyankee
10-27-2006, 03:28 PM
miltie, rotflol, all you had to do was take a deep breath... though I was a card carrying member of AA back then so I do remember. Not all of them were memorable. Bob Dylan and Tom Petty wailing in the driving rain was HORRIBLE. This was during the time period (mid 80s) that Dylan now admits he was totally sold out and burned out, and totally sucked, 'scuse my language.
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 03:29 PM
Sorry guys, Miltie asked, and I just gave the answer, lest you wonder all day what the punch line was.
(Message edited by matt_hatter on October 27, 2006)
sameo
10-27-2006, 03:35 PM
Tiguh said "there's an f in way?" hehe
mdillon
10-27-2006, 03:52 PM
tiguh always was an optimist
matt_hatter
10-27-2006, 03:56 PM
:::::Bulletin::::::
FACTNET BUNNY TRAIL REACHES 1 BILLION WORLDWIDE!!
Beat writer: Moses
I am laughing my backside off.
mdillon
10-27-2006, 03:57 PM
tiguh always was an optimist
coppertree
10-27-2006, 04:34 PM
<font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Hey -Catching up a little,
Ul and other James Talyor fans, I liked James also, but I really liked his brother Livingston Talyor. Hard to find but worth the effort.
Speakword, Thank you so much for your dance, it is a claasic.Lol lol
And there is Jimi Hendrix in concert, profound to say the least. And the Doors, Wow, were all in in all in early concerts. But sitting between two friends playing 12 strings was the most!!!}
sameo
10-27-2006, 05:14 PM
mdilly:"Tiguh always was an optimist."
SameO: not an 'optimist'-that's faith, brutha dilly!
woof! i mean, WOF!
mcmstaff78
10-28-2006, 10:04 PM
Okay, another treat for you children of the 70s. Some of you may recall a band called Delaney, Bonnie & Friends. Delaney Bramlett was a good friend of Eric Clapton's and produced EC's first solo LP. EC did some extended touring with D&B and, in fact, the core of the band that became Derek & the Dominoes started out as D, B & Friends. So, without further ado, here is a video of this band, replete with EC and the future Dominoes, performing Coming Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EOxy3TF3OY). If you do not have the album, Delaney & Bonnie on Tour with Eric Clapton you are missing out on some great music!!
mcmstaff78
10-28-2006, 10:08 PM
Oh, just as an interesting tid bit, Bonnie Bramlett made a couple of CCM albums in the early 80s and appeared on Rosanne as Bonnie Sheridan, Rosanne's fellow waitress. You might recall the episode that David Crosby appears in and sings a duet with a woman, that was Bonnie Bramlett.
Matt: FACTNET BUNNY TRAIL REACHES 1 BILLION WORLDWIDE!!
This is such an opportunity....http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif
40days40years
10-29-2006, 11:52 AM
But Bob Weiner was claiming 1 billion souls just like Bill Bright (Campus Crusade for Christ) maybe a little competition going on there.
1 billion is 3 times the population of the good old USA give or take a few ten million.
speakword2004
10-30-2006, 12:41 PM
Which goes to prove that nothing breeds like a rabbit.
Yesterday morning I got to watch another one of your loony ESPN TV programmes on Duck Hunting. Lo and behold we have the bearded duck hunting "Commander": A good old Boy with duck whistles in one hand and a bible in another. He reminded me of early days evangelising on campus. Good intentions with a shotgun and duck-hide ambush attitude.
Enter Daffy stage left: "You're deth-picable!"
Then we have the Bass fishing programmes where guys come bounding into a stadium! with their catch of fishies. Matt, I can just imagine you and the crew ambling in with a catch of something. Whatever it would be I am sure it would provide stitches.
"Here's our bag of converts to the bunny park". Now if only Bugs had been around 15 years ago when I signed up:
"Poor little maroon. So trusting. So naive."
matt_hatter
10-30-2006, 04:21 PM
Speak: "Matt, I can just imagine you and the crew ambling in with a catch of something."
hahahahttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif Speak, that tournament fishing is too much like work. Those guys have ceased enjoying the quiet world around them and are all about sponsor$$$ and feeding their families. And really, for the life of me, going to a fish weigh-in? Would be like standing in line at the Probate Office to renew my car tags.
Gotta admit though, we Americans can make a leisure activity out of about anything, even chasing the spider webbed-threads of Moses all over factnet! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif
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