Why does GGWO use a King James Bible that God does not appreciate

[daved (daved)]

The question being raised on this thread is why does GGWO continue to use a King James Bible in the pulpit, when Pastor Carl Stevens has preached that God does not appreciate an Evangelical Bible that calls Him "JEHOVAH".

Obviously the King James Bible is an Evangelical Bible that calls God "JEHOVAH".

To be redundant:
Why would a ministry that claims to be doing God's will on the planet earth, continue to use an Evangelical Bible that calls God "JEHOVAH" after their anointed pastor tells them that God does not appreciate it.

Why would Pastor Carl Stevens continue to preach with a King James Bible in his hands [he does] if Yahweh used Him to tell his congregation that He [Yahweh] does not appreciate that particular Bible.

<font color="ff0000">PASTOR CARL STEVENS AND GGWO HAVE REJECTED ALL THREE MEMBERS OF THE HOLY TRINITY AS THEY ARE FOUND IN THE KING JAMES BIBLE.

WHY DON'T PASTOR CARL STEVENS AND PASTOR TOM SCHALLER BOTH JUST REJECT THE ENTIRE KING JAMES BIBLE.</font>

<font size="-2">WHY?</font> <font size="-1">WHY?</font> WHY? <font size="+1">WHY?</font> <font size="+2">WHY?</font>

<font color="0000ff">IS IT BECAUSE THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS THE ONLY ENGLISH CHRISTIAN BIBLE THAT HAS A PEDIGREE?</font>

daved

P.S.

Both Pastor Love and Pastor Scibelli both made known their belief that God's name is "Yahweh" on Monday's edition of The Grace Hour.

[itstimetomoveon (itstimetomoveon)]

You sound like one of those old 45 records that would skip at the same spot everytime it was played. The only way to fix that old scratched record was throwing it away and getting a new one. Unfortunately they don't make them anymore. Do they even make record players anymore? I hope someday you get the answers you have been searching for daved.

[daved (daved)]

itstimetomoveon,

You sound like a person who is unwilling to criticise what Pastor Carl Stevens and Pastor Tom Schaller are doing, when they both stand in the pulpit with a KJV in their hand, which neither one believes is The Word of God.

If you doubt that they use the King James Bible, just listen to the recent messages that are posted on the GGWO Library for free.

They both stand in the pulpit with a King James Bible in their hand,
claiming to be Bible Believers,
but they do not believe their own chosen Bible,
which they are holding in their hands,
is actually "The Word of God"

They pretend to be holding "The Word of God",
in their hands, but in fact they look elswhere for "The Word of God"
when ever they mention God's name.

And the place they look to as the source of God's presumed name "Yahweh", is not the extant Greek or Hebrew scriptures, rather it is the uninspired Greek writings of Clement of Alexandria.

daved

P.S. Just in passing 3 speed record players are making a comeback. Teenagers are finding those old records in their parent's attics and want to hear that old sound.



(Message edited by daved on June 09, 2005)

[itstimetomoveon (itstimetomoveon)]

daved:
My point was that you have not been able to get over this issue about who and what the proper pronunciation of God's name is. I can't criticize anyone about this subject I've got no clue. This subject has been argued well long before any Christian church. Maybe Gods name is to be a personal one between each individual child of His.

[daved (daved)]

itstimetomoveon,

The question has changed slightly since Pastor Carl Stevens stood in the pulpit with a King James Bible in his hand and told his congrgation that God does not appreciate an Evangelical bible that calls Him [i.e. God] JEHOVAH.

Why in heavens name is Pastor Carl Stevens standing in the pulpit with a King James Bible in his hand, while telling his congregation that God does not appreciate the very bible he is preaching from.

Something is rotten in Denmark.

Either Pastor Carl Stevens does not know he has a King James Bible in his hand,
or else the God who Pastor Carl Stevens claims is annointing his message does not know he is standing in the pulpit with a King James Bible in his hand.

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH

daved

[david_munson (david_munson)]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
God's name is Jesus.
The hebrew has no vowels so as far as we are concerned it is WYWH.Nuf said.
Dave

P.S
T</font>}he Fathers name is Abba.You know Abba Father.

[forte (forte)]

Whoa Dave! Cycling? I was wondering when you were gonna bring it up...AGAIN.

[mikko (mikko)]

i use the KJV Bible i don't trust any of those new age per-versions : niv tniv rsv nlt tev etc...

[pressing_on (pressing_on)]

Forte
How are you, Good to hear your words, funny I was just thinking of you and Calv the other day and you both post today. Decided to come out of the closet huh, just kidding!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

Hope all is well

In Him, pressing _on

[daved (daved)]

david_munson says

<font color="ff0000">>>>
The hebrew has no vowels so as far as we are concerned it is WYWH.Nuf said.
>>></font>

The Masoretets added vowel points to the Hebrew Text which had no vowels.

The Hebrew texts (Masoreticic Texts) that underly our English Translations have vowel points.

6518 times the underlying Hebrew of the Old Testament of the KJV spells God's name as "Yehovah", from whence comes "JEHOVAH"

Pastor Carl Stevens and most of modern scholarship do not believe that the Masoretes placed the actual vowel points of God's name above and below the actual Hebrew consonants of God's name. [i.e. YHWH]

Thus a controversy exists as to what God's name actually is.

However Pastor Carl Stevens is on record, on The Grace Hour, as acknowledging that he trusts in the Greek writings of Clement of Alexandria for the name "Iaoue" = "Yahweh".

<font color="0000ff">The question though is why does Pastor Carl Stevens continue to use the King James Bible after God personally tells him that He doesn't appreciate his [Pastor Carl Stevens'] King James Bible, because it calls Him [i.e. God] JEHOVAH.</font>

daved

[jeannie (jeannie)]

Hi Forte! I missed you too.

[david_munson (david_munson)]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>Forte;
david_munson says

>>>
The hebrew has no vowels so as far as we are concerned it is WYWH.Nuf said.
>>>

I find myself in error concerning this part of my post.
It is YHWH not WYWH Sorry about that.

Forte,God bless you brother.I need to do some cycling,I'm getting fat!

Dave</font>}

[david_munson (david_munson)]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>longstep =ericb

hehehehehe

Dave</font>}

[jayso (jayso)]

Howz 'bout YHVH?

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