How Utterly Bizarre

[mercyreigns (mercyreigns)]

I am just now listening to missions night. How bizarre to hear clappers and foghorns in a church. And how almost satanic it sounded when stevens and his wife walked in. And when Love said just before prayer "Let's hear your plastic hands".

It is frightening that people cannot see how sick this is.

(Message edited by mercyreigns on June 24, 2005)

[mercyreigns (mercyreigns)]

My God they are outright lying about who they have in missions. This is so hard to believe.

[lana (lana)]

Plastic hands signify a revival? Do these people really believe this? Did he preach, or just his presence was enough?

[mercyreigns (mercyreigns)]

Why was Austria there? After that letter from Pr. Rob????? After he was marked???? I don't trust one single pastor in the new affiliation after this display. I am so glad I am gone from there. This is the ultimate in duplicity. How under Heaven could I have spent almost 20 years there? I am so sick. Their rendition of the finished work is no accountability even in the so called new affiliation.

Shame on all of you who wrote letters and then showed up at that meeting. How double minded can one get.

I am stunned, completely stunned.

[mercyreigns (mercyreigns)]

I never realized until now watching missions night how arrogant we are. How mocking to the work of God. There are Christian missionaries all around the world quietly serving God and look for no recognition.

We have made a circus out of the work of God and missions. I am ashamed to have been a part of that.

Nancy Curra

[giselle (giselle)]

mercyreigns,

P. Rob may not have known that some missionaries represented Austria at GGWO's mission's march. P. Rob was not there. I did not see any of the disaffiliated Pastors there.

[mercyreigns (mercyreigns)]

they are deliberately muting stevens.

[hodeuon (hodeuon)]

Pastor Prokop cannot be held responsible for the decisions of other people in Austria to attend or not attend. The same with the other pastors who disaffiliated.

I don't see why we should judge IAGM based on what happened at GGWO.

Hodeuon

[mercyreigns (mercyreigns)]

Hodeuoun I understand your point. Perhaps those who were misrepresented in the March such as Washington, Austria, Chile, etc. do not know.

But the people who marched for Austria are on staff in Vienna, at least one is. they are very close to Pr. Rob.

It is just that I want to trust again so badly and have been in contact with several in the new affiliation. I am alone here and all I have ever known is GG.

So many in the new affiliation are/were close friends. I just don't want to be misled again. With my health and death of mother and brother it is hard to think right now. I am sorry if I made a judgement or discerned incorrectly.

But I won't remove my posts. Perhaps they will read it and e mail me. inmercyrejoice@hotmail.com

Nancy Curra

[hodeuon (hodeuon)]

Yes, I think all of us would welcome any communication from the new affiliation. Even if they just posted a press release, it'd show that those who left on their own aren't forgotten.

Hodeuon

[jim_kennedy (jim_kennedy)]

Despite all it's talk about unity TBS/GGWO has always been a source of division. The method is well described by Steve Quinlan on the Civil Discourse and Mind Control thread. They divide marriages, families, friendships and now entire churches. It will never end. Junior Stevens and his loyal sycophants thrive on it. It gives them a reason to live.

While they get in the pulpit and say they pray for the new affiliation and wish them well, they work behind the scenes to take members from their churches. These are probably the people who participated in last nights ritual. They lie to the people who seek the truth about it all. In the end it only represents more division.

We can only hope last nights spectacle will help open the eyes of many who have been searching for answers and fighting with their GGWO programming. Other churches don't do this kind of thing. It reminds me of a scene from Gladiator: the pathetic self serving emperor betraying his own country. Where is the love of God in all this?

I'm with Nancy. I just thank God all that is behind me.

Jim

[mercyreigns (mercyreigns)]

They purposely lowered the sound when Stevens was blasting those who left. Calling them evil, us also. He said it Thursday night, missions night.

It is online now and you can't hear but a very few words. People who were there told some of us what he said. He was downright controlling and nasty.

[david_munson (david_munson)]

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Still the clock is ticking.
There is a reconing approaching fast.
The Lord will not let this go on for long.
He has His timing.
Be patient and wait upon the Lord.
His hand is not slack.

The house of cards built upon sand
will fall.

Dave</font>}

[jayso (jayso)]

Nancy, I saw the convention files and amen to "how UTTERLY bizarre"! I never saw plastic hands or foghorns in a church! I am "on the fence" as far as whether GGWO is a cult or a church with cultish tendencies. BUT... The "plastic hands" being waved around reminded me of Hare Krishna people making noise with their mini cymbols they wear on their fingers!

Seeing and hearing the plastic hands and listening to the hooting and hollering especially over Stevens was difficult to watch! To me, the howling and boisterous crowd did not seem to be full of joy at all! It sounded as if the people were doing it just to make noise, but it wasn't a joyful noise. It seemed almost robotic and nervous.

I gathered that CHS was preaching against PEOPLE who are "enemies". Looked to me like he was having fun roasting people who left, but I don't read sign language or lips and would love to know some of the (high?) points of his message. Anyone have some transcripts?

Also, does anyone know what the "manifestation" was on Thursday that TS spoke about the end of Friday morning's meeting???? Enquiring minds want to know!

-Jay

[yogi (yogi)]

Perhaps he was referring to the "manifestation" of stupidity exhibited at Mission's Night!
SOS (Same old ****, different year!)

I too want someone who interprets sign language to transcribe this garbage, though with a little imagination one might presume he was naming the names of those he know to be going to hell after saying last year's verses five times.

I don't know who's sicker, P. Stevens or the idiots who continue to buy into this bull****!

yogi

[dinaweena (dinaweena)]

I'm sure it's all the same sickness, yogi. One is just as sick as the other...the idiots and the puppetmaster(s).

[shat_happens (shat_happens)]

Here is a thought...

I remember back in the day taking Pastor Love’s taped class on the book of Revelations, and in it, he talked about how the 7 churches represent not only the whole church age, but also the possible life span of any given church. In other words, within each of the 7 churches one could find those elements within any local church at any time plus their almost a timeline of events for the church age itself. So I wonder which of the 7 Baltimore is playing out right now?

Stevens and his False Profit Shallow, or as I like to say, “Shallow Profits!”

For the record I’m not making fun of Pastor, because Stevens himself has called him “Pastor Shallow” many a time! In fact over at http://liquidwaves.blogspot.com/ we might have a clip of him doing so!

[david_munson (david_munson)]

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The saddest part is how the Word of God is not obeyed by those who are supposed to be caretakers of the flock. To say to those that are still in attendance that those who left are enemies and are infected is wickedness to the fullest.

We all are called to a ministry that is Holy:

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

To say that an annointed child of God is infected just because you don't like the fact that they dissagree with you,well that is very dangerous to say the least.
The only agenda that any of us should have is to reconcile with each other and bring the lost to a point where they can reconcile with God.

What we see going on does not honor the Lord at all.
For a pastor to say"you're evil because you left <u>my</u> church is spiritual retardation and nothing more than the flesh.

in Christ's Name,
Dave</font>}

[giselle (giselle)]

david_munson,

I heard P. Schaller say that some of the bretheren have become infected. It is preposterous that a bretheren is called "infected" for seeking the truth and challenging things that don't seem right. With that mindset things will never change. My prayers are with all those that are innocent involved people in the pews. May they become enlightened and search out the truth. It is up to them.