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daved (daved)
06-30-2005, 08:26 PM
Dear FACTNet User,

Against all odds, FACTNet has survived.

In fact, the website content is growing at an enormous rate. The website
is now transferring almost 600 gigabytes of FREE healing and empowering
educational information a month to victims of cults and mind control all
over the world!

When we installed the new and upgraded discussion board we did not
realize that we were grabbing a tiger by the tail. We thought that, if
we provided a forum for discussion, it would be a great proactive step
in getting people to assist each other. Boy, are they talking!

The FACTNet discussion board now has a total of more than 153,000 posts.
New posts are accruing at the rate of about 450 posts per day.

The discussion board has become a great resource for people who want
expose malpractices, for people who want healing, for researchers to
find information and last – but not least - for those who want to defend
their organizations from perceived attacks. We have allowed all parties
to have their say. We have kept moderation to a minimum.

We get thanks from both sides of the spectrum. This gives us hope. It
implies that even the die-hards are beginning to understand that the
only way forward is for organizations to become more transparent.
Dialogue and transparency are intrinsically good. These values benefit all.

What also gives us hope is that people are learning how to use the
internet to disseminate information. They are learning about the
technologies available to them. They are learning how to present their
case. They are learning how to communicate.

This is not to imply that everything is rosy. The more that information
penetrates into new regions, the more abuse is brought to light. In this
regard, the FACTNet discussion board is morphing into new territories.
In the past year, we have seen an enormous growth of Christians
disenchanted with their organizations making their way to the discussion
board. Some have lost their faith because they were burnt. Some have
rediscovered their faith once they left abusive organizations. Now they
are talking. And this is a good thing. FACTNet respects the fact that
all people are on a journey of discovery.

Necessary Important Policy Improvements for Our Discussion Boards:

Originally, FACTNet tried to keep discussion group moderation to a
minimum. We did this in the hope that guided by the FAQ - which is at
http://www.factnet.org/FAQ_Discussion_Board.htm - people might be able
control their behavior.

We have found this not to be true. Consequently, we have instituted a
more radical approach to solving this problem. We are blocking IP
Addresses and User Accounts of those people that have continued to:

1) spam the discussion board,
2) attempt to disable the discussion board,
3) attempt to hack into the discussion board or
4) relentlessly harrass or intimidate members of the discussion board,
or violate our other policies designed to keep the discussions safe and
informative.

It is with regard to #4 above that we are becoming less understanding.
People who are trying to intimidate other users, and thereby "shudder
them into silence", unfortunately have had a chilling effect on some
individual discussion board users and are attempting to "re-victimize"
people who have left cults and other toxic organizations.

This is abuse. The abusers are going to be blocked relentlessly in the
future. To see a list of banned IP Addresses and Users, please go to
http://www.factnet.org/Blocked_and_Banned_Users_and_IP_Addresses.html

The primary purpose of the FACTNet discussion board is to provide a
voice to victims. We will now enforce their right to have a voice.

We are not interested in the claims that abusers and harassers and
intimidators also have a right to Freedom of Speech. There is a distinct
difference between rational debate, discussion and hostile flaming.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming

We hope that, in future, people take this message seriously and moderate
their behavior. If not, we will enforce our right to protect the FACTNet
Discussion Board and the victims that have a right to speak on it.

The Future of FACTNet:

We have once again experienced another tremendous surge in growth. We
need to add more staff hours to stay up with it and keep our discussion
boards running well. We are now up to using 600 gigabytes of bandwidth a
month and that costs money too.

We are still preparing to upgrade much of the FACTNet website with many
new self empowering software support tools. But, to complete these
upgrades and keep us online we need your financial help now.

Our costs are doubling because of our growth. Please send any donation
you can afford today to do your fair share and help us support you and
the many other victims of cults all over the world. Please use one of
the following methods to make your donation:

a.) Donations by Check: Checks may be made payable to FACTNet, Inc. and
mailed to:

FACTNet, Inc.
P.O. Box 3135
Boulder, CO 80307-3135

(Please include your return address so we can mail a receipt for your
tax records.)

b.) Donations via PayPal: Our PayPal account number is the same as our
e-mail address: manage@factnet.org

Thank you in advance for your donation.

Sincerely,
Lawrence Wollersheim
Director

This editorial opinion provided by FACTNet, Inc. (Fight Against Coercive
Tactics Network.) Since 1993 a 501(c)(3) non-profit that defends our
basic freedoms of mind from all forms of unethical influence tactics and
mind control. For breaking news, information, personal stories, support
groups, expert referrals, message boards, newsletters and books relating
to mind control, cults and unethical psychological influence go to
http://www.factnet.org .
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itstimetomoveon (itstimetomoveon)
06-30-2005, 08:41 PM
so this is why Jim Faucett has not been posting.
What did he do?
Jim_faucett
***@yahoo.com (Banned) 5-16-2005

jeannie (jeannie)
06-30-2005, 09:05 PM
Thanks for posting the email, Daved. My admiration for this charitable organization deepens. I will send money.

The links are so interesting, here are a few definitions. I never heard of a Zenslap!}


Flaming:
Flaming is the performance "art" of posting messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting, usually in the social context of a discussion board (usually on the Internet). Such messages are called flames, and are often posted in response to flamebait.

Flamebait:
Flamebait or trollbait is a message posted to an Internet discussion group, such as a newsgroup or a mailing list, with the intent of provoking an angry response (a "flame"). Various motives or explanations can be sought for this puzzling behavior; the desire for attention and the desire for entertainment at others' expense are two leading motives.

My favorite!
Zenslap:
The Zenslap is intended to allow a recipient to realize knowledge that they already have, but are unable to fully grasp. The right slap can bring together two thoughts that have been needlessly unconnected for a long time, or complete a set of thoughts needing only one more to allow comprehension. At the wrong time, a zenslap only hurts without being helpful. The art of the master is to recognize when the thoughts are there.

cordell (cordell)
06-30-2005, 09:10 PM
Well, JF better behave in the future!

karen (karen)
06-30-2005, 09:15 PM
Cordell,

I must say that while I have often found JF annoying, I can't imagine him doing anything to deserve banishment. Are you privy to the circumstances?

cordell (cordell)
06-30-2005, 09:24 PM
Karen,
Privy? I practically live in that guy's head. Like coarse sandpaper to the backside!

steve_quinlan (steve_quinlan)
06-30-2005, 09:39 PM
Cordell:
First banished to Elba then what a comeback! Hope you are here for plus que "Les Cent Jours," and that there is no St. Helena in your future.

SQ

lee (lee)
06-30-2005, 09:58 PM
I always thought Cordell was a cool rid'n dude

Good to have you back.

bob_brinton (bob_brinton)
07-01-2005, 01:18 AM
Now if we can just get a discussion going between Martin L and Thomas More.

2goforward (2goforward)
07-01-2005, 02:36 AM
Banished? I thought the reason JF hadn't been posting is that he had gotten a job. Just kidding!

david_munson (david_munson)
07-01-2005, 02:40 AM
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Jim Faucets last post was under the topic
"Tommy Boy Speaks to the Staff:Notes" on 5/15/05.

I don't see anything that would've caused his being banned.

Go figure.

Dave</font>}

anon_brief (anon_brief)
07-01-2005, 03:06 AM
Then you don't know him very well, Dave. LOL

david_munson (david_munson)
07-01-2005, 03:26 AM
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I can't deny that.
I think they may have removed the post that caused his being banned.The one I read,at least as far as I can see,wouldn't have done it.

Dave</font>}

louise_connolly (louise_connolly)
07-01-2005, 05:25 AM
Well, Jim, I must admit when I received the factnet email then followed the link to view banished posters and saw your name, I burst into laughter then I called Debbie to share the laugh.

I have wondered where you were but it now makes sense. One with an ego as grand as yours would not have stopped posting of your own volition.

I don't get why your banned either but it does strike my funny bone.

dave_drago (dave_drago)
07-01-2005, 05:44 AM
Louise,

I hate to burst your bubble! (Well, not really!lol) Jim did not stop posting because of the ban. I laughed with him when they banned him. If I recall, he was dealing with the Bible spammers with own their medicine and he was guilty by association.

BTW, thank you for your firm stand on the cult issue. I really do appreciate it. I think I have it memorized! So many have given much to expose the smoke and mirrors. It is a process. You and Jim are both an integral part of the process.

louise_connolly (louise_connolly)
07-01-2005, 05:58 AM
Oh, I get it. It still makes me laugh though.

dave_drago (dave_drago)
07-01-2005, 06:26 AM
St. Helena Island would really be uuuh, err, toxic.