gone_to_pa (gone_to_pa)
11-25-2005, 06:32 AM
HI ALL,
As I watched the landmark 70k posts go by, I was pondering. What has been accomplished and learned here? I wasn't around in the beginning to see what this place has done for others, but I know that it has helped more than the expected "Target Group" I learned that there are really people out there who give a crap. I don't mean this in anyway negative at all. There are folks that post here who possess a love for their brethren that I too long to possess one day. That is a long way for me because this place has taught me for one that I can sure be an a$$hole at times. Buttons can get pushed pretty easily over here and I'm not real pleased with that.But me and the Big GUY are working on it, (not you Phil) I also learned from others who have posted here. I listened to testimonies that truly set me free in some area's of my life as I'm sure it did others. I learned never to give up, no matter who is against you, you have to keep pushing to reach your goal. One of the goals here was to expose corruption in a Religious System and people held that banner no matter how hard or long it took, they would be heard. I learn from stuff like that. I also learned that others can be just a big an poop head as I can be, but still are much like me, in that after they are sorry and we learn to get along. I have watched people literally drug thru the mud and the stench of someone else's fleshly outburst, and come out on the other side telling that person they understand and welcome them and pray for that person. I learn stuff from people like that. I have watched the battered and confused come here and find hope and the life of Christ and a family of sorts that will take them in and let them feel welcomed and be a part of something they have nothing to do with anyway. I believe that this place has caused untold damage to a ministry that marks those who disagree with their doctrine, which is another Gospel anyway, as they brag about never being defeated or stopped. If I was them, I wouldn't speak to soon. To say that if it is of God, it can't be stopped reffering to themselves, then the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Muslims could say the same. God doesn't like bragging, especially when it hurts others. We have not bragged here, but have told the truth to the best of our abilities. We have opened up our hearts and our very lives to the world, so that all could see the hurt caused by following man and not God. If those who read this think this was easy for us, they need to think again of those who told stories of abuse untold before this forum, which must have been relived in the telling of the truth. Many read here but never post, as someone said, they are the greatest numbers. They don't post for many reasons and we will respect them for their want of privacy. Some that don't post, but do read are those who have lost something to this ministry that brags of all it's great accomplishments. We would like to know if there is anything we might do to expose more than what has been exposed. You can e-mail us, we will keep your privacy in tact. So many different people from all sorts of different backgrounds and lives have come here with purpose. Please if reading here, consider what it is like for us who do post, who put our name out there for all to read. Many of us still have family and friends in this same ministry we seek to uncover. Why would any of us go to such great lengths to expose a ministry such as this. Why would we allow our privacy to be invaded? Could all of us,which isn't just a few by the way, plus the 70 Pastors and their families and their congregations, could all of us have gotten together and concocted such a web of deception as to think we could fool all of you who read here? NO WAY, Some that post here aren't even on this continent, yet have seen and heard and experienced the same as the many here have. This place did not come about by hate, on the contrary it came about by love; love for the brethren. Many here would jump into a boiling pot before they would want you to go through half the stuff they experienced at the hands of the Instititution. We were taught at GG that other ministries were inferior to ours. We had something that made us stand apart from the rest. A man doesn't make a ministry. The Lord does. Men make ministries that are off.Jesus Christ said He would build His church and the gates of Hell would not prevail against it. To hear told, this ministry was the vision of a man, and he is given adoration upon adoration for something that in all reality, he should have had nothing to do with, but again only if Jesus was the One doing the building. If Christ Jesus be lifted up, He will draw all men unto Himself. We need to learn to give ALL our adoration to the only ONE worthy of all our praise. We must learn to decrease, so that HE may increase. I can't comment for all who post here, but as for me, the one thing that convinced me that truth was being told here was the sincerity of the poster. Oh yea, once in a while you will witness a dispute over some nonsense or the other, but we don't claim to not be human. What you see is what you get, and that can not be said for GGWO. In a way, it's kind of like the bible here in the sense that nothing has been hidden. If someone calls another a doo doo head, most likely it will be there unless it was so nasty that people decided to edit what they said. I have been guilty of that one. Please, as you read, for as long as this forum keeps going, don't knock us, don't come here telling people that they haven't experienced what they have experienced. Believe me when I say this, many have other things they could be doing. We come here out of love for our fellow man and woman. We know of something that is wrong and off and we are the heralds. We will tell the world until the cows come home if thats what it takes. Love is a funny thing isn't it? It takes a very special kind of love to come here day after day just waiting for the oppurtunity to share a piece of information that would set someone free from bondage to a Religious System, A Man or Men, a building and a Pulpit. This is what laying down one's life for the brethren is. Taking time out of our day or night, away from our family or friends, just to see if we might say something that might be just the thing, that's the straw that breaks the camels back. just that one morsel of information that lines up with something someone has seen or experienced. I didn't come to this web-site for six months because I was told at GG that I wasn't allowed to. If I did, I'd be receiving an evil report. Some cockatrice eggs might hatch in my spirit. What a bunch of baloney. I see now why they told us not to come here. We would hear stories like Jim Faucett's and Jim Lang's and Nancy Curra's and others who were marked by a ministry they gave their lives for. Not just a year or two, but 20 or 30 or 40 years invested in a man and a ministry, to find out much was a lie. Did we learn at TBS/GGWO? Yes, good along with the bad. Eat the chicken, throw away the bones. The bones started to outnumber the chicken and we began to choke and so we did some investagating of our own, or some didn't have to, they were victims themselves. The best way to see if what is being said here is truth or not, is to ask the Lord to reveal truth to you and He will. He is faithful, he will reveal the truth to you in your quest for truth. I believe many here will post 70,000 more times if it helps just one to break free. That is the heart of most here and that is why I am pleased to be a part of the GGWO thread on Fact Net. Tom Shalom.
As I watched the landmark 70k posts go by, I was pondering. What has been accomplished and learned here? I wasn't around in the beginning to see what this place has done for others, but I know that it has helped more than the expected "Target Group" I learned that there are really people out there who give a crap. I don't mean this in anyway negative at all. There are folks that post here who possess a love for their brethren that I too long to possess one day. That is a long way for me because this place has taught me for one that I can sure be an a$$hole at times. Buttons can get pushed pretty easily over here and I'm not real pleased with that.But me and the Big GUY are working on it, (not you Phil) I also learned from others who have posted here. I listened to testimonies that truly set me free in some area's of my life as I'm sure it did others. I learned never to give up, no matter who is against you, you have to keep pushing to reach your goal. One of the goals here was to expose corruption in a Religious System and people held that banner no matter how hard or long it took, they would be heard. I learn from stuff like that. I also learned that others can be just a big an poop head as I can be, but still are much like me, in that after they are sorry and we learn to get along. I have watched people literally drug thru the mud and the stench of someone else's fleshly outburst, and come out on the other side telling that person they understand and welcome them and pray for that person. I learn stuff from people like that. I have watched the battered and confused come here and find hope and the life of Christ and a family of sorts that will take them in and let them feel welcomed and be a part of something they have nothing to do with anyway. I believe that this place has caused untold damage to a ministry that marks those who disagree with their doctrine, which is another Gospel anyway, as they brag about never being defeated or stopped. If I was them, I wouldn't speak to soon. To say that if it is of God, it can't be stopped reffering to themselves, then the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Muslims could say the same. God doesn't like bragging, especially when it hurts others. We have not bragged here, but have told the truth to the best of our abilities. We have opened up our hearts and our very lives to the world, so that all could see the hurt caused by following man and not God. If those who read this think this was easy for us, they need to think again of those who told stories of abuse untold before this forum, which must have been relived in the telling of the truth. Many read here but never post, as someone said, they are the greatest numbers. They don't post for many reasons and we will respect them for their want of privacy. Some that don't post, but do read are those who have lost something to this ministry that brags of all it's great accomplishments. We would like to know if there is anything we might do to expose more than what has been exposed. You can e-mail us, we will keep your privacy in tact. So many different people from all sorts of different backgrounds and lives have come here with purpose. Please if reading here, consider what it is like for us who do post, who put our name out there for all to read. Many of us still have family and friends in this same ministry we seek to uncover. Why would any of us go to such great lengths to expose a ministry such as this. Why would we allow our privacy to be invaded? Could all of us,which isn't just a few by the way, plus the 70 Pastors and their families and their congregations, could all of us have gotten together and concocted such a web of deception as to think we could fool all of you who read here? NO WAY, Some that post here aren't even on this continent, yet have seen and heard and experienced the same as the many here have. This place did not come about by hate, on the contrary it came about by love; love for the brethren. Many here would jump into a boiling pot before they would want you to go through half the stuff they experienced at the hands of the Instititution. We were taught at GG that other ministries were inferior to ours. We had something that made us stand apart from the rest. A man doesn't make a ministry. The Lord does. Men make ministries that are off.Jesus Christ said He would build His church and the gates of Hell would not prevail against it. To hear told, this ministry was the vision of a man, and he is given adoration upon adoration for something that in all reality, he should have had nothing to do with, but again only if Jesus was the One doing the building. If Christ Jesus be lifted up, He will draw all men unto Himself. We need to learn to give ALL our adoration to the only ONE worthy of all our praise. We must learn to decrease, so that HE may increase. I can't comment for all who post here, but as for me, the one thing that convinced me that truth was being told here was the sincerity of the poster. Oh yea, once in a while you will witness a dispute over some nonsense or the other, but we don't claim to not be human. What you see is what you get, and that can not be said for GGWO. In a way, it's kind of like the bible here in the sense that nothing has been hidden. If someone calls another a doo doo head, most likely it will be there unless it was so nasty that people decided to edit what they said. I have been guilty of that one. Please, as you read, for as long as this forum keeps going, don't knock us, don't come here telling people that they haven't experienced what they have experienced. Believe me when I say this, many have other things they could be doing. We come here out of love for our fellow man and woman. We know of something that is wrong and off and we are the heralds. We will tell the world until the cows come home if thats what it takes. Love is a funny thing isn't it? It takes a very special kind of love to come here day after day just waiting for the oppurtunity to share a piece of information that would set someone free from bondage to a Religious System, A Man or Men, a building and a Pulpit. This is what laying down one's life for the brethren is. Taking time out of our day or night, away from our family or friends, just to see if we might say something that might be just the thing, that's the straw that breaks the camels back. just that one morsel of information that lines up with something someone has seen or experienced. I didn't come to this web-site for six months because I was told at GG that I wasn't allowed to. If I did, I'd be receiving an evil report. Some cockatrice eggs might hatch in my spirit. What a bunch of baloney. I see now why they told us not to come here. We would hear stories like Jim Faucett's and Jim Lang's and Nancy Curra's and others who were marked by a ministry they gave their lives for. Not just a year or two, but 20 or 30 or 40 years invested in a man and a ministry, to find out much was a lie. Did we learn at TBS/GGWO? Yes, good along with the bad. Eat the chicken, throw away the bones. The bones started to outnumber the chicken and we began to choke and so we did some investagating of our own, or some didn't have to, they were victims themselves. The best way to see if what is being said here is truth or not, is to ask the Lord to reveal truth to you and He will. He is faithful, he will reveal the truth to you in your quest for truth. I believe many here will post 70,000 more times if it helps just one to break free. That is the heart of most here and that is why I am pleased to be a part of the GGWO thread on Fact Net. Tom Shalom.