Bruder5 WMPG Tuesdays 730pm

[anova (anova)]

This reminder is for Karen who requested it. I need a reminder, too. Someone bump this up next week at this time, OK?

Listen in:

http://www.wmpg.org/?trouble

Anovus

[cape_cod (cape_cod)]

Just so you know...Marty O'Brian's radio program - (Grace Street) is from 7:30pm to 8:00 on Tuesday evenings.

[anova (anova)]

Just 25 minutes 'till Grace Street.

[No relation to Grace Hour.]

[anova (anova)]

Hey, It's time for Grace Street.

I remembered, this week.

[jeannie (jeannie)]

Thanks Anovus for the reminde.

[jim_kennedy (jim_kennedy)]

I missed the program but now it's New Orleans Blues/DooWop/Vodoo/Stripper music. LOL

[anova (anova)]

JIm,

Oh, great!!

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[jim_kennedy (jim_kennedy)]

Now it's DOC WATSON !

[bruder5 (bruder5)]

Hey Guys- Thought you might enjoy an upcoming interview with Joel Freeman. Joel has recently completed a Documentary Film called "Return to Glory, The Powerful Stirrings of the Black Man"
The film recently premiered in Nashville with 3,000 attending. If nothing else you can listen to a couple of old farts and some decent music.

www.wmpg.org (http://www.wmpg.org)
Grace Street
Tuesday Evenings 7:30-8:00pm
www.gracest.net (http://www.gracest.net)

Also, I'll be doing a one hour show in mid-june on FN and GG. Putting guests together now. The show will be available on CD after it airs.

[anova (anova)]

Ten minutes until air-time!

See above post.

[bjerwin (bjerwin)]

20 minutes to air time..

Thank you, Bruder, for your help today.

[offshore (offshore)]

Hey BJ,
Thanks for the reminder!!!
I'll Email you soon.....Wish you had been there last Sat. night!! You are right, The Winemaker and his wife are way too much fun.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Hello Friends,
I'm listening to Marty O'Brien now. Is he joining us in August. I am already blown away deeply by his comments on shame. Oh, God, I am so overwhelmed at the years of free thought lost to mind control-God help me to know it's worth living and getting free.
Marty if you are reading thank you.
Love,
Patricia

[bjerwin (bjerwin)]

It was great wasn't it? I wished that I had been able to type of many of his thoughts, to ponder them later. Next time I will make sure I have Word open so I can post some of his statements on FN.

Marty, it was really really fantastic!!!

[david_munson (david_munson)]

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Soon we'll be leaving this old world behind,
I don't mind.
Christ the Lord will take us in the twinkling of an eye
We'll be gone.

But all the people left behind will have much trouble to go through
They'll wish they where with me and you
Cause we'll be at the marriage supper in the presence of the King
We will sing

Halleluiah praise your precious Holy name
you are the only worthy one
Father and the Spirit and the sacraficial Son
I love you

but for nowImust be occupied with you each day
teach me Father how to pray
that I may bring you to some lost ones as I travel on this road
and lift the heavy load

Soon we'll be leaving this old world behind I don't mind
Christ the Lord will take us in the twinkling of an eye we'll be go,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I wrote this song many years ago.I still love that it ends in the middle of the last verse.

Baruch Habbah Hashem Adonia,
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[jeannie (jeannie)]

BJ, thanks for reminding me to listen. I agree Patricia.. very powerful words spoken tonight on Grace St.!!

[offshore (offshore)]

Bruder,

Excellent program tonight, on Shame. I can relate to shaming other people when they haven't gone through the kind of recovery I have. I have seen this truth first hand in myself. Thank God, I am becoming more acutely aware when I begin to think in terms of toxic shame.
Example: I can be a food addict, experience powerful toxic shame, (which makes one eat more), finally go into recovery, get my addiction under control, loose weight and then shame other people for being overweight and not trying.
Whew....crazy or what? Shame begets shame.


I read John Bradshaw's book, "Healing the Shame That Binds You" about 8 times when I got out of TBS. I couldn't get enough. Shame is such a killer of the true self.

Thanks Bruder, for your very insightful and powerful program.
Maybe you have a weekly schedule, but the Shame issue is one I could hear all day long.

(Message edited by offshore on June 01, 2005)

[sojourner (sojourner)]

I wept when I heard him say. One bad act=One bad person, as a definition of society's way of shaming individuals. What is up with that. Plus, his mention of slavery. Wow! Is that relevant to some of us or what? If it were a call in show I would have been dialing away! I have not shared many things on FN and will not share some things. Suffice it to say, one well spent word like the above on shame goes right into my deepest being and does something. I go to accupuncture to help produce endorphins after years of pain medication. I call the guy who runs the place a "jewish mother theresa" because he deals with those society considers outcasts, lepors. They are just people like anyone else, but they get to see and be victimized by the "together" crowd who wouldn't understand mercy that gives them breath every day.
I hear the softness in this mans voice when he administers care, he knows these people are seeking wholeness from a place that cannot be viable in our society. Some are just numbing pain. I have very radical views on things and I cannot share them just anywhere, but I will never judge any substance user, heck, aren't we told that we are fallen. Isn't it possible that some sense a correction from medication that they never felt before. I don't even like the word addict. I have family members who are addicted to self-righteousness and I fear for them more than any addict. They are the first to know it all, judge people etc.. but I'd rather be broken and give a soft word. Me, I place a high premium on kindness. What impressed me about Marty's program is not his vocabulary, but the soft spoken delivery of a powerful thought and then space to ponder it. No heavy revies, or dessucations of pyramids in the mirrored room of the soul, but simple powerful principles from a heart that wants to showcase something other than an ego trip.
Thank you Mr. O'brien, one day I hope to share my story with you. It is still unfolding and I am struggling but your words helped me tonight.
Patricia

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Offshore, I am going to get that book. Thank you for mentioning it.
Love,
Patricia

[bjerwin (bjerwin)]

Bruder, if there is ever an intervention in Baltimore with CHS, Mike and I would be happy to give for that to help with expenses. Please let us know.

[bruder5 (bruder5)]

Thanks for the kind words. We'll continue on next week for a 60 minute show with more on shame and some decent music...

[giselle (giselle)]

What kind of program is this please? I am new to this board. Thank you in advance for sharing info on this. God bless.

(Message edited by giselle on June 01, 2005)

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Someone remind us! I am taping anote to my computer now to tune in at 7PM. Gissele scroll up and you will see the links to the program. I believe it is on Tuesday evenings from 7:30 -8pm.
I assume the added 30 minutes will be from 8;00-8;30-am I right? Thank you, Bruder. Actually Giselle go to www.wmpg.org (http://www.wmpg.org) and click 'Listen' from the menue options at the top of the page. Go before the show so you can make sure you have the connection. Best wishes, nice hearing from you.
I want to go watch the Eagles. Love that harmony!
Patricia

[arguendo (arguendo)]

This is on my alma mater's station. Spent 3 years in that building.

Martin J. O'Brien is the host of Grace Street, a popular radio talk/music show in Portland, ME. Marty worked for a regional substance abuse hospital in New England for 7 years where the development of adolescent programming and outreach was his primary focus. Marty currently works at an agency in Portland with opiate addicted clients. He is the founding member of a team that developed the first indoor skatepark/prevention counseling center in New England. Marty has spoken in over 40 high schools, and is a sought after speaker on addiction issues that range from trends in substance abuse, to developing culturally relevant material and spaces for young people. Marty worked for 14 years as a pastor of churches in Maine, where he created and lectured on a series "Wounded Healers", which he also took to Estonia, Finland, Holland, England and throughout the US.

Grace Street, WMPG 90.9 fm, Tuesdays 7:30-8:00 PM

[jeannie (jeannie)]

Arg, My brother is a Professor of Ecomonics at your alma mater. He also has a radio program on WMPG..

[jeannie (jeannie)]

sorry..economics (and I obviously do not have a degree in spelling)

[arguendo (arguendo)]

Wouldn't have had him. Economics involves math. Princess doesn't do math.

Would have had a minor in sociology except that I refused to do the statistics course.

[giselle (giselle)]

Thank you all for giving feedback on Grace St. I've book-marked it and will check it out next week. God bless all!

[bruder5 (bruder5)]

Thoughts on Shame and Redemption....
Some fairly good music

[sojourner (sojourner)]

The song is saying it all...
So lonesome I could cry...
There it is...
Another great program so far, i'm glad the stream is working..
thanks

[offshore (offshore)]

OK...We are bummed!!!

We couldn't listen because it was over the limit for people tuning in on the computer, but then again, that's a GOOD thing.
Can anyone tape it or transcribe it??

[jim_kennedy (jim_kennedy)]

Is being on Factnet considered a Relapse? lol.

Paraphrase: " A counselor who requires the patient to forgive the perpetrator becomes a collaborator."

Jim

[sojourner (sojourner)]

What the hell is counseling anyway? Is it someone who has all the answers telling someone who doesn't?
That's kind of reminiscent of something isn't it.
The show was very powerful to me anyway. I wasn't expecting to hear anything new and lo and behold I did anyway...I need to not write for a while at least not extensive comments until I take a personal inventory and deal with some things I have been afraid of. I will be reading though and still loving all of you as best this frail little soul can.
Jim, that is an amazing thought, I wish I knew about the program a long time ago.
Call the station, maybe there is a tape or transcript, I taped part of it but some didn't come out. For me personally it lanced a very big hot spot.
Love in silence for a while,
Patricia

[anon_brief (anon_brief)]

Sojourner,

Come back when you can. Your absence will be noticed.

[jim_kennedy (jim_kennedy)]

Patricia, that was a quote from the program.

[sojourner (sojourner)]

I know. Wasn't it something.
Why do people have the constant need to lay trips on each other.
Thanks AB, I still be here, I just have to focus on something that I have found easier (at least up until recently) to ignore...you are family, I'm not leaving and if I am honestly moved, I'll share.
Oh, Broder, thanks for the program.
Patricia

[bruder5 (bruder5)]

Grace Street has a library of Show's that can be burned for anyone requesting a copy. Just e-mail us at obriend@gwi.net Include your mailing address and we'll fire one off. Note that sometime in late June we'll be doing a one hour call in show specific to Spiritual Recovery. Our web site is changing shortly but an overview can be seen at www.gracest.net (http://www.gracest.net) Thank you for your comments.

[wj_hunt_big_bird (wj_hunt_big_bird)]

Hey ,Marty been trying to e-mail you , do i have the wrong address or are you just ignoring me.

William Hunt

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Bump time

[bruder5 (bruder5)]

Bird-haven't seen anything in my e-mail. try the obriend@gwi.net

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Marty, did you get the last two emails I sent.
Patricia
Tonight will you talk about paradoxes, I feel like I am one.

[offshore (offshore)]

"IT'S SHOWTIME !!"

http://www.wmpg.org/

7:30 to 8:00

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Somebody get off and let me on! I need it really I do.

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Marty, I will be requesting the cd for tonight, I couldn't get it. I tried for the whole 30 minutes and came home just to listen, I really wish I heard it. Any gems anyone would like to share.
Patricia

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Did anyone listen to Grace Street Last night who can share any of it. Also did anyone else have connection problems- I have been listening to the station for over 3 weeks and last night and this morning it will not connect to the server. I tested real one on my computer and it is working fine. I even downloaded another media player to accomodate the shoutstream but the file could not be supported or recognised. Bruder are there problems there? I was so disappointed to miss the show especially now.
Patricia (going crazy in Boston)

[anova (anova)]

Patricia,

I had the same problem. It is not you. You are not going crazy.


Anovus

[bruder5 (bruder5)]

We had a bad storm last night in Portland that affected our transmitter...people had difficulty tuning in...

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Thanks Anovas,
Aside from the streaming issue, I am crazier than you will ever know. Ever watch Jekyll and Hyde?
Oh well, one day I'll understand, maybe, my own little world of contradictions. That's why I think I think I should shut up for awhile.
I'm so glad you all are here.
My link to society and a safe place to be finally.
Patricia

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Damn that storm!!! BUT, I can't get on today are you still having problems. I know I am...read between the lines. Thanks for all your help.
Patricia

[sojourner (sojourner)]

You guys can go to convention..I'm going to grace street. Bump!

[anova (anova)]

Seems like Marty is only playing music on his show, tonight.



Hope he hasn't relapsed.


Anovus

[sojourner (sojourner)]

At the beginning the girl who is moderating said he was in DC (with the prez??) and that he might call in.
I like the music evem though the topic about the lack of good care for those struggling with addiction was disheartening.

[anova (anova)]

Tonight! At 7:30!

Marty O. will be revealing the culinary secrets surrounding his famous hot-dogs!

Don't miss it!

Listen in at http://www.wmpg.org/?trouble

Anovus

[sojourner (sojourner)]

Bruder the program tonight was great, but sad too. Did you ever hear Anna Nalick's song
Wreck of the Day". It strikes a very raw chord in me. Thanks for the insights tonight, especially on not fitting in and lonliness. Brushing up against hope...there is a thought.

For anyone interested here are the lyrics.

Wreck of the Day

Driving away from the wreck of the day
And the light's always red in the rear-view
Desperately close to a coffin of hope
I'd cheat destiny just to be near you
If this is giving up, then I'm giving up
If this is giving up, then I'm giving up, giving up
On love, On love

Driving away from the wreck of the day
And I'm thinking 'bout calling on Jesus
'Cuz love doesnt hurt so I know I'm not falling in love
I'm just falling to pieces
And if this is giving up then I'm giving up


If this is giving up then I'm giving up, giving up
On love, On love

Maybe I'm not up for being a victim of love
All my resistance will never be distance enough

Driving away from the wreck of the day
And it's finally quiet in my head
Driving alone, finally on my way home to the comfort of my bed
And if this is giving up, then I'm giving up
If this is giving up, then I'm giving up, giving up
On love, On love

[wj_hunt_big_bird (wj_hunt_big_bird)]

Marty still haven't seen any e-mail from you , i have now sent five i think . just wondering where you are??????? I posted my e-mail on the e-mail thread if you want it.
Bill

[offshore (offshore)]

UP

[offshore (offshore)]

up again

[anova (anova)]

Dammit!

I missed the program, again.

[jeannie (jeannie)]

bump....

[sojourner (sojourner)]

I did too and I always make it a point to listen...went to acupuncture and forgot all about it...got so relaxed. Anyone listen or was this the week Marty said he was going to DC? I think that is next week though. What was the program about tonight Bruder? A little recap perhaps for your factnet fans.

[anova (anova)]

For all of you with addiction issues (like addiction to FactNet):

Tune in now to hear Bruder5

http://www.wmpg.org/?trouble

[dinaweena (dinaweena)]

ummm....zactly what am I listening to? singin'bout babylon and stuff....huh?

[dinaweena (dinaweena)]

wow-his voice is so soothing....sounds kind of like john collins :-)
I love my front porch....rocking chairs and a swing....I see people every day....most won't look at me and say hi back anyways...

[jeannie (jeannie)]

Dina, Bruder/Marty and John Collins.. two of my favorite people! I also love front porches, rocking chairs and swings. I loved the point Marty was making about this disconnect within society today. The front porch is perfect word picture of community. Something which was completely alien in GG. We had a false community birthed out of false unity. I believe this is the heartcry for many of us now. I also believe community is necessary for our healing. And though FACTNet has it's faults and limitations it also brought us a sense of community.. of "being seen" of connection and understanding. FN is kinda like your front porch; an opportunity to engage and connect with whoever may pass by...

[david_munson (david_munson)]

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jeannie,
I like that.It's a nice way of looking at it.Carries a lot of truth too.

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[jeannie (jeannie)]

Thanks Dave M, how are you doing? I pray for you as you continue on with a great loss.
Jeannie

[isabella (isabella)]

Jeannie,

Thanks for www.factnet.org (http://www.factnet.org). Even though it's on the wan (pronounced wane), it has been a valuable tool for all of us.

You have done a good thing.

Just want to say...

THANKS!

Love,
Isabella

[david_munson (david_munson)]

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jeannie,I'm doing great and thank you immensly for your prayers and love in Christ.

The postmistress talked to her co-workers about some of the things my mother did for her and was able to witness to them through it.
She told them how my nieces son came into the post office with sadness on his face because she didn't have a stamp on her casket and wouldn't be able to make it to heaven without one.(he is five)
She gave him two stamps and she told them how he immediately changed his countanance to joy at the jesture.Even the postmaster general was in tears when she was done talking.

I hope my life has such a far reaching effect like that.Even in death her testimony stands to witness to the living.

Blessings to you my dear sister in the Lord.

Dave

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[anova (anova)]

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[jeannie (jeannie)]

Anova, Marty is not on the air tonight...

[anova (anova)]

Not only is he not on the air, but his substitute is playing Sinead O'Connor.

Oy vey.


ps. Hi, Jeannie. Hope all is going well!

[david_munson (david_munson)]

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[jayso (jayso)]

Is Bruder5 on the air again?

[jeannie (jeannie)]

bump

[jeannie (jeannie)]

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