Child Molesting

[dancer]

How does anybody excuse what the hell happened with these churches where these kids were molested? Good God its like so what now?

I have made some real efforts to help some law enforcement and newspapers learn of events and situations that have taken place, but what I find and I am not pointing fingers is that people seem to be more interested in somehow playing "we got the sobs" than bringing people to justice. Or even worse: "this will not happen because it never does".

If these newspapers ignore the pathetic events in these churches where a child has been violated than I will forever know that lawyers have enough skill and power to shut down the Free Press.

I want well known that there is little chance that the church in Baltimore, a church other than the one in Baltimore in Maryland, and maybe a church in Florida made incredible efforts to protect a possible child molester. There is not only credible evidence but people who have already offered up the events in a time line that is hard to argue with. Just go read the Delaware thread. And on top of it that as many as three of these individuals were moved across state lines. Jeff Wisot deflecting questions and never giving full and straight answers. In the name of protecting his work.

Realty is that I take it on the chin and I wish others were compelled to win for the sake of these kids not for the sake of simply winning. I find it hard to argue with the logic of putting the kids first. If there is any chance that 1/10th of what has been said is true would you ever want your child in one of these churches, would you want your worst enemie kids in one of these places? Put the kids first.

Somehow we give free pass on rape, incest, molesting, and allowing a church to ignore these events in its own buildings? I think we need to work together and help each other put these idiots out of business not beat each other up.

Note the email I have from a Pastor suggests the movements of one of these molesters from DE into Maryland and maybe to florida.

Neil

[gone_to_pa]

Neil,

I fully agree. I can't understand why people don't want to move forward except for the fact that they don't want their kids hurt anymore than they already have been. That's life my friend and if I could put a particular Pst I know in jail for the insinuations that he made towards my daughter, I wouldn't be overly concewrned about what she might have to go through in order to put this sick #$%^&*()_)(*^%$$ in jail. Kids are way more resilent than we think. What is most important is that many have the attitude of "well it's all over now, let's move forward with our lives and forget it ever happened" as much as that might be possible. That is GG thinking to me. I think my kid would gewt great satisfaction knowing the sick #$()(*&^%$# that tried to get romantic with her at Cramped Life is behind bars or has had his name plastered all over every newspaper so that it can't or won't happen again. GTP

[greaterdisgrace]

SO tell me.. Why don't we all call Paul tomorrow and ask him? Lets ask him if he will follow in his daddys footsteps or will he have some balls and stand up and do the right thing.

This family needs to come forward and set this record straight. There would be immunity for them and from what I understand anonymity for the boy since he was under 18.

Gone to PA..Let's do it man..Call that reporter that already wrote the unflattering article about Love. I am sure he would like to take that and run. Statute of Limitations aint what it use to be for these child abusers.

[gone_to_pa]

Greaterdisgrace,

e-mail me. tmwhjd@yahoo.com

[dancer]

The Baltimore County (yes that says county) Hartford County, Baltimore City, DE State Police, and a county in Virginia are all getting updates concerning the Slocum (spell) case tommorow night. I would appreciate some information that has been relayed to me writte with times lines. I should note I am not going after anybody who was a minor at some point in this pathetic mess. But I would love to bust some so called leaders of these kids. Ugh

If the information I got has some teeth somebody is looking at time. Covering things up and dragging people down is pretty unreal.

You want specific information you can call me. Enough is written here to write a book on allegations about everything include molesting small little girls.

The one phone call I have with the National Center for Missing Childen should restart and start a few investigations. It did last time. In fact this one hopefully will trigger an amber alert.

Just so you guys know I tend not to answer my phone between 8-5.

Neil Carrick
neilpatrickcarrick@gmail.com
734-323--4428

[david_munson]

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Some think that keeping their children from reliving these abuses is helping them but what they do not understand is that there is healing for an abused child in seeing the abuser taken to justice for their crime.

Not seeing justice done for them causes continued emotional damage because of the fear and unwarranted guilt that accompanies such abuses.

The healing and releif that goes along with the abuser being sent to jail,is a stabilizer in the abused persons life and gives them hope that things can be delt with and criminals can be brought to justice.

Often the abused believes that it was their fault.
Such is not the truth.It is the abuser that is the guilty one not the abused.

Come forward and find help and hope again.
You have friends.

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[david_munson]

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They took something from you,now you can take something from them and regain your dignity while putting them where they belong.

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[bruder5]

Many regain there dignity long before the "taking something from them". Language is important and the idea of regaining through taking is reductionist and implies that the children of the secret should somehow respond to the above challenge. They know hunters well and can smell opportunists long before they walk over the hill. Those I know would never ever ever respond to you. They see the agenda and it is not their own. Expose GG all you want with your vague triumphalist posts . The hunted now hunt but there weapons are not power and control but words of dignity and autonomy.

[dancer]

I am not sure I agree. I see many kids hurt and frankly they often tend to be those who are ready to take back. Sometimes in ways that are not so great. Who can blame them?

[bruder5]

Many regain there dignity long before the "taking something from them". Language is important and the idea of regaining through taking is reductionist and implies that the children of the secret should somehow respond to the above challenge. They know hunters well and can smell opportunists long before they walk over the hill. Those I know would never ever ever respond to you. They see the agenda and it is not their own. Expose GG all you want with your vague triumphalist posts . The hunted now hunt but there weapons are not power and control but words of dignity and autonomy.

[david_munson]

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Yes Bruder,
it reduces their ability to abuse another.
It also helps the abused feel a little more secure in realising that abusers can be held accountable for their actions.

Don't be so quick to downplay the empowerment of the abused individual.

I don't want them to respond to me.
I want them to be strong and know that they have the power to hold the feet of the abusers to the fire.
That it can be stopped and cut at the roots so it cannot grow again.

I know,I have walked that path.
I was abused as a child and the abuser will never abuse again because I made sure that they where made accountable.

I now have the pleasure of knowing that I stopped a criminal from commiting more crimes.
It does help whether you know it or not.
I know.

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[bonniescott]

"The hunted now hunt but their weapons are not power and control but words of dignity and autonomy." Beautifully and aptly put, Bruder. Thank you!

[greaterdisgrace]

I spoke with the Delaware reporter today. If this family has any desire to come forward, he would it on print and give them anonymity. He feel that would be a huge push for the AG's office to start a major investigation.

I dont think prosecuting a minor would bring justice. I think this family taking back thier lives and telling the press that an accusation was made and covered up would have the bigger impact. The men responsible for the cover up would serve the time. The acts of molestation did not end with this kid. The blatant cover ups started with him though.

The family was never given the chance for closure either. They were bullied into a coverup as much as the victims. Im sure a rosy picture was painted for them. They live under the shadows of the same deceit as the victims. I pray to God they come forward and make it right.

[dancer]

This has taken a new twist.

I am sure some of you have seen the email about the new police report with the other brother.

I feel bad for some of the things about to take place but I cannot stay silent on what I know. I hope latter on people will read this post and understand why I went forward with what I knew