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dancer
09-28-2006, 09:18 PM
His mercies are new every morning. Oh that hurts to say sometimes when you are somebody who has been in this fire for this long.

Two days ago I was in the hospital, and man was it hard, I was stuck on oxgen and the whole nine yards. Basically I over extended my lungs on a work out from being sick for a while.

I knew I was going to court over the custody, visitation, and support of my son with Rhonda. In the zillion hearings I had with Keri it was fight, fight, fight, fight, he is crazy, he is mean, he is spooky etc. Sound familiar?

So Rhonda rhoo and myself went at it pretty hard. Thinking you know I need one more child I can't see. The pain I suffered living under the mean efforts of those who control Keri and have done such a good job pushing me away from my kids is unreal.

But the pain that I went through with Keri and myself doesn't hold a candle to the pain of the looses Rhonda and I went through. Lets face sin has some terrible results.

So all the way to the court house steps, on cell phones the threats are boiling over.

4 hours later two happy people emerged. Joint custody, no inlaws from GGWO looking over my shoulder telling me I am a crazy unfit father, who would hurt my kids. I got a mother who even with the pain that is unreal still layed down the sword for the sake of her son, his father and the people in the family.

One hearing, no lawyers, judges, etc. Just a clerk and a few questions, an order, and peace.

Why I have seen this crap happen with GGWO families were spouses are kept from their families to the point of breaking, and children who loose their parents. Unreal!!

Keri and I have done over 5 hearings and 20 months of us not speaking at all even about our kids (either she really doesn't care for them or she is really under control) we are nowhere close to being finished. 4 Kids don't see there father.

I am impressed with the handiwork of the Lord. I pray others find peace the way I have as of late.

Two hours after I left the courthouse I am in the same room with an ex and holding my son in my arms, nobody freaking out and acting mean. With the GGWO crowd I would not ever be allowed to see my kids unless a judge was hitting somebody with a peace of paper.Imagine somebody who doesn't care for you at least being civil, agreeable, caring and sincere about the kids? Not with GGWO.

kupski
09-29-2006, 03:26 PM
This is where you have to argue a very strong point for seperation of church and state. If the church " In this case Greater Disgrace " had "thier" way , you would of been screwed and tatooed and would of never been able to see your legacy. THANK GOD that the courts SOMETIMES are clear minded.
P.T.L. for you and your situation !

david_munson
09-30-2006, 03:22 PM
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Way too many times GGWO puts the "ministry" ahead of family relationships and the healing and reconciliation of married couples.

They deny the ministry of "reconciliation" to which all believers have been appointed.

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation.

This is the real "ministry" not what they say the ministry is.Otherwise they would do all they could to encourage couples to work through things and not to leave each other.

They should never offer to pay for someones divorce.That's not God's heart.
Is it "Butch Veader"?

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jim_buckley
10-12-2006, 03:45 AM
david_munson

"Way too many times GGWO puts the "ministry" ahead of family relationships and the healing and reconciliation of married couples."

There is a balance: Luk 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple." Jesus didn't leave much room here for reconciliation, did He?

Another hen clucking.

dancer
10-12-2006, 04:47 AM
Jim I have a few really bad days, and frankly reading Dave Munson and then you made understand again how important it is not to let the devil get into the details and man talk about a misuse of scripture.

Dave: Yes to your question.

I also wanted to tell some people a little secret all apologoes to Tom M (yes Tom I found her). I found a person who is like a daughter to me. And now that the dust has settled I can legally adopt her with no interferance from anybody.

I have lost a lot lately but in the last few hours I see how God has put some people in front of me like no other time in my life.

I see how God will wrap this up for my life. Even with people making some off the wall threats on me now I see how God is using all of this.

Lord does some real miracles sometimes even when we least expect it.

david_munson
10-12-2006, 03:21 PM
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JB,"Another hen clucking."
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These jibes usually appear when one is out of context ,like Mr.Buckley is about these scriptures.

Nice try at twisting Jim but no cigar.

You need to find an accurate balance instead of using these verses out of context like you're doing now.

This verse you quoted is about devotion to "JESUS" not a ministry.
Putting "Jesus" ahead of everyone else,not a pastor!
It has nothing to do with revealing error manipulation and abuse and does nothing to negate the need to do so as we are instructed to do in scripture.

The order of things.
1.God
2.FAMILY.
3.Church.

Get it?

I didn't think so.

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sidethorn
10-12-2006, 06:43 PM
JB's and GGWO's order of things:

1. Pastor
2. God
3. Family

In JB's world, the ministry comes before and at the expense of everyone else including loved ones and friends. Sadly JB doesn't get it and doesn't want to!