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Anonymous (205.188.117.20)
06-08-2004, 12:15 AM
Does anybody know how to archive them? I hear it is fascinating reading. It will continue to show more lies and cover up on the part of TBS/GGWO.

Anonymous (4.139.9.160)
06-08-2004, 12:41 AM
westlaw.com is a good source. When you receive these would you please post them on the board for all to read and decide about on their own?

Thanks!

Anonymous (4.139.9.160)
06-08-2004, 12:42 AM
Be sure to ask for anything pertaining to "The Bible Speaks" and/or Elizabeth Dovydenas.

506 N.E. 2nd 523 Table
Cite as: 24 Mass. App. Ct. 11025

COG (141.157.77.172)
06-08-2004, 03:57 AM
It seems that you need a password and client to view things on the Westlaw site.

Anonymous (64.12.116.66)
06-08-2004, 04:06 AM
In what jurisdicton and courthouse were the proceedings held?

Anonymous (205.188.117.20)
06-08-2004, 04:07 AM
Maybe Pastor Marr can get us a password

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-08-2004, 04:08 AM
Worcester or Springfield Massachusetts if I remember correctly.

Anonymous (205.188.117.20)
06-08-2004, 04:14 AM
Worcester

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-08-2004, 04:31 AM
Do any of you have the transcript of the judge's decision?

Anonymous (4.139.15.13)
06-08-2004, 04:35 AM
I do, but I don't know how to get them to you without revealing my identity.

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-08-2004, 04:37 AM
I have one I was going to offer to send snail mail to someone to post.

Anonymous (64.12.116.66)
06-08-2004, 04:37 AM
Copy them and mail them to her without a return address.

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-08-2004, 04:41 AM
I could send someone my copy if you'd like. I cannot type very long due to the condition of my hands, but I'd be willing to send them to you ...maybe you could scan them in or something. If you are worried about anonymity, I am as discrete as it comes.

Roberta

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-08-2004, 04:43 AM
Email me if I can be of help in this matter

srfern@verizon.net

Roberta

Anonymous (4.139.15.13)
06-08-2004, 04:45 AM
Walter Martin's report from CRI would be informative as well. Does anyone have a copy of this to share?

Anonymous (64.12.116.66)
06-08-2004, 06:46 AM
I believe Christian Research Institute still offers it the Martin Report for about 5 to 10 dollars. It is 60 pages long, and very detailed with names and conversations about the situation at the bible speaks. It is still scary even though it was written in 1983, because some of the warnings that CRI made have come true at GGWO.
Call their 1-800 number and ask how to order.
I have a copy that someone who left GGWO sent me 4 years ago, but I am reluctant to reveale my identity. Let me know if this helps.

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-08-2004, 07:54 AM
I have copies of both....just tell me where to send them and I will be happy to do so.

I understand the reluctance to reveal your identity, 64. Been there, had to do that for along time.

Contact me at srfern@verizon.net

All correspondence will be kept confidential. I know full well the price if there is a mess up.

Just a thought. Perhaps Jack Leonard might be approached to post the information on the board.

Roberta

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-08-2004, 02:01 PM
Jack has posted information on the trial on this board, I believe on thread 1..

Watchman Fellowship has alot of literature on TBS/GGWO. I received the CRI report and many copies of newspaper articles from them.

Here is David Henke's of Watchman Fellowship's email: dhenke@watchman.org

Anonymous (198.70.0.62)
06-08-2004, 04:25 PM
For those not familiar with this case, Elizabeth "Betsy" Dovydenas sued Carl Stevens for undue inlfuence regarding her "donations" of almost 7 million dollars to The Bible Speaks.

I have the decision in front of me. It is signed by James F. Queenan, Jr., U.S. Bankruptcy Judge. Dated May 19, 1987. United States Bankruptcy Court, District of Massachusetts. Chapter 11. Case No. 86-40392-JFQ. [Trial held in Worcester, Mass.]

Here are some excerpts from the judge's decision:

From Page 1:
"This is a case of undue influence exerted upon a church donor which appears to be unsurpassed in our jurisprudence in its variations and in the sums involved. Revealed is an astonishing saga of clerical deceit, avarice, and subjugation on the part of the Church's founder, Carl H. Stevens. He has abused the trust of the Claimant as well as the trust of many good and devout members of the church."

From page 18:
(This describes how Carl Stevens got Betsy to sign her will away from her husband(except for the legaql minimum required to give him) and children and give ALL (worth many millions)to The Bible Speaks.)

"On December 13, 1985, the Claimant[Elizabeth Dovydenas] executed a new will drawn by Campoli[Carl Steven's attorney], leaving Jonas[Elizabeth's husband]$25,000 outright plus the right to receive income from the balance of one-third of her estate, which was to be held in trust for his benefit during his lifetime. This was the minimum amount she could leave him under Massachusetts law. The will gave only jewelry to the Claimant's children... The Church was left the entire residue of the estate, including the trust remainder at Jonas' death. Stevens, at Campoli's usggestion, was name the sole trustee of Jonas' trust. Hill[Kathy Hill] was name executor. The will contained a direction that Stevens manage the "financial affiars" of the estate. In the event that Stevens predecased the Claimant, this function was to be performed by seven individuals associated with the Church, including three of Steven's children, his son-in-law, and Hill."

From Page 39:
"Implicit in all of the Claimant's dealings with Stevens, and indeed glaringly obvious, is his total dominion and control over her. This was accomplished through his express directions as well as through the various means laready described. Stevens demanded the Claimant's total submission to him. He told here to concentrate on his every word."
"Stevens advised the Claimant to use make-up, and to be more feninine in her dress and hairstyle. Although the Claimant was already quite attractive, she complied with these suggestions, thereby significantly changing her appearance. Stevens encouraged the Claimant to regard Baum[Barbara Baum Stevens], a former model, as a paradigme in this regard."
"In short, the Claimant was a marionette at the end of a number of strings manipulated by Stevens. He often used Baum and Hill as his assisatng puppeteers. The result was his complete ascendancy over the Claimant."

From Page 40:

"An important important part of his[Carl Stevens] strategy was to eliminate the ability of all others to influence her. The most despicable, and perhapss the most effective, aspect of this was the elimination of Jonas' ability to influence the Claimant. In doing this, Stevens showed no regard for the sanctity of marriage. His deceit and insincerity concerning Jonas all but destroyed the Claimant's marriage. His deceit and insincerity with respect to the other members of the Claimant's family drastically changed her attitude toward them, and also eliminated them as an alternate source of advice."
Stevens's relationship of trust and confidence with the Claimant creates no presumption of undue influence. The relationship did, however facilitate his ability to unduly influence the Claimant. Moreover, Stevens abused tath relationship, in the ways already described. Among the most startling acts was the way that he dealt with the Claimant concerning her independent financial and legal advisors. Not once did he even suggest that she consult them. To the contrary, he advised her against doing this. Eventually, he succeeded in replacing them with advisors who owed their primary loyalty to him rather than the Claimant."
"Stevens also unfairly, and unduly, influenced the Claimant through his insincerity in his statements to her. Particularly appalling is his insincerity in telling her that her mission from God on earth was to give money to the Church, that her money gave her the power to work miracles, and that Jonas and others were possessed by the Devil. He believed none of this, and yet he intended that the Claimant believe it and he knew that she did."
"In light of the foregoing, and in light of the findings of fact contained throughout this opinion, we rule that all of the Claimant's gifts were the product of undue influence exercised upon her by the Church through Stevens."

If you can get a copy of the entire decision, do so. It is incredibly fascinating reading. It is also very enlightening.

talkintruth (205.188.117.20)
06-08-2004, 07:08 PM
Reading things like the above brings to mind a quote that I always liked from an older movie. The movie was "Footloose," and the scene was when a pastor was debating with his wife over a fight he had with the youth who wanted to have a dance. He saw it as sinful and his way was the only way. The wife said to him,

"Sometimes you can elevate a congregation so high that they have to look down to see heaven."

It's not unlike what P. Stevens often does with himself and a select few.

Anonymous (68.33.132.78)
06-08-2004, 08:04 PM
I hope someone will scan and post the entire decision. Of course, few, if any GGWO people will read it. Those that do, will claim it's the work of Satan.

You know, being a Christian and having sense of justice and fair play really hinders my ability to make a living. If it wasn't for that eternal damnation thing, I think I'm missing a great opportunity to make a fortune by starting my own religion. I hope you know I'm joking. I'm laughing to keep from crying.

This is depressing........

Dave (4.156.84.75)
06-08-2004, 09:26 PM
On Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 11:25 am
Anonymous (198.70.0.62)wrote some excerpts
from the judge's decision in Elizabeth "Betsy" Dovydenas Case:

>>>
"In light of the foregoing, and in light of the findings of fact contained throughout this opinion,
we rule that all of the Claimant's gifts
were the product of undue influence exercised upon her by the Church through Stevens."
>>>

Sometime within the last eleven weeks,
possibly at a Sunday Service after March 28TH,
[at which time Pastor Carl Stevens had recovered enough from his near death experience
to preach again on Sunday],
Pastor Carl Stevens discussed the Elizabeth "Betsy" Dovydenas Case in the pulpit.

He said that the first million dollars that Betsy donated was with the full approval of her husband.

Then he indicated that the next 5 million dollars or so that was donated by Betsy,
was strickly her doing.

He indicated something to the effect that he tried as hard as he could to persuade her not to donate that money unless her husband approved.

However Pastor Carl Stevens indicated that "Betsy" persisted in wanting to donate this large sum of money,
and Pastor Carl Stevens finally accepted her decision to donate the remaining 5 million or so dollars.

Dave

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-09-2004, 01:42 AM
This is the opinion from the Court of Appeals. The Supreme Court denied Cert., so this was the last word on the subject. Luckily, the facts were at issue, so the Court of Appeals recites the facts, though it admits that the facts are recited in the light most favorable to Dovydenas.

IN RE THE BIBLE SPEAKS, Debtor. ELIZABETH DOVYDENAS, Plaintiff, Appellee, v. THE BIBLE SPEAKS, Defendant, Appellant

No. 88-1254

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE FIRST CIRCUIT

869 F.2d 628

March 9, 1989

PRIOR HISTORY:

Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts, Hon. Frank H. Freedman, U.S. District Judge.

COUNSEL: Norman Roy Grutman with whom Jewel H. Bjork, Grutman Miller Greenspoon & Hendler, Henry Paul Monaghan, Charles W. Morse, Jr., and Sullivan & Worcester were on brief for Appellant.

Marjorie Heins, Massachusetts Civil Liberties Union Foundation, and Cynthia Salten on brief for the Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts, Amicus Curiae.

Lee Boothby, Julie B. Kaplan and Boothby, Ziprick & Yingst on brief for Council on Religious Freedom and The National Council of the Churches of Christ in the U.S.A., Amici Curiae.

Gordon T. Walker with whom Donald R. Frederico, Eric R. Dannenmaier, McDermott, Will & Emery, and Laurence H. Tribe were on brief Appellee.

JUDGES: Bownes, Breyer, Circuit Judges, and Brown,* Senior Circuit Judge.

* Of the Fifth Circuit, sitting by designation.

OPINIONBY: BOWNES

OPINION: BOWNES, Circuit Judge.

In this undue influence case, the defendant church, the Bible Speaks (TBS), appeals the district court's affirmance of the bankruptcy court's finding of liability. See The Bible Speaks v. Dovydenas, 81 Bankr. 750 (D. Mass. 1988) (TBS II); In reThe Bible Speaks, 73 Bankr. 848 (Bankr. D. Mass. 1987) (TBS I). The unique procedural history of the case was detailed by the district court.


TBS brought suit in Berkshire Superior Court [Massachusetts] against Elizabeth Dovydenas on April 14, 1986 seeking a declaratory judgment that it did not owe her any debt or liability and that it did not have to return funds transferred by her. This suit was dismissed on June 13, 1986. The Massachusetts Appeals Court dismissal was affirmed on April 8, 1987.

Elizabeth Dovydenas then brought suit on June 19, 1986 in Berkshire Superior Court against TBS. She sought rescission of gifts made by her between December 1984 and December 1985 because of undue influence and fraud. After its motion to dismiss was denied on July 15, 1986, TBS sought protection of the bankruptcy court filing for Chapter 11 reorganization on July 29, 1986. Its petition, which stayed the state court action, stated that Elizabeth Dovydenas' claim against it was a core proceeding. Elizabeth Dovydenas then filed a proof of claim with the bankruptcy court on October 31, 1986. The three-week trial on the merits began on March 30, 1987 and ended on April 16, 1987. The bankruptcy court issued its final order on May 19, 1987. By assuming jurisdiction of TBS over the claimant's objection, the bankruptcy court entered into the process of administering TBS' estate while it reorganized under Chapter 11. 81 Bankr. at 753-54.

Plaintiff's claim in the bankruptcy court was for the return of gifts made to TBS, allegedly because of undue influence. The bankruptcy court found that the gifts were the result of undue influence and awarded her $6,581,356.25, which was the total of three large gifts and a number of smaller ones. After reviewing the record, the district court accepted and adopted in full the bankruptcy court's findings of facts. Both courts rejected the first amendment - free exercise claim of TBS.

We affirm in part and reverse in part.

I. THE STANDARD OF REVIEW

The bankruptcy court made extensive findings of facts. See TBS I, 73 Bankr. at 849-57. Credibility was a key factor in determining the facts. Id. at 857. We review the bankruptcy court's findings of fact under the clearly erroneous standard. Bankr. R. 8013; FN1 Fed. R. Civ. P. 52(a).

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FN1 Bankruptcy Rule 8013 reads in full:

On an appeal the district court or bankruptcy appellate panel may affirm, modify, or reverse a bankruptcy judge's judgement, order, or decree or remand with instructions for further proceedings. Findings of fact, whether based on oral or documentary evidence, shall not be set aside unless clearly erroneous, and due regard shall be given to the opportunity of the bankruptcy court to judge the credibility of the witnesses.

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In Briden v. Foley, 776 F.2d 379, 381 (1st Cir. 1985), we held, in a bankruptcy case, that the clearly erroneous standard was especially appropriate where credibility was at issue, stating: "Indeed, the clearly erroneous standard was designed to insulate just such findings -- ones that are based, inter alia, on weighing the credibility of witnesses." Id. at 382. See also In re Pearson Bros., 787 F.2d 1157, 1161 (7th Cir. 1986). The clearly erroneous standard has been explained by the Supreme Court as follows:

Although the meaning of the phrase "clearly erroneous" is not immediately apparent, certain general principles governing the exercise of the appellate court's power to overturn findings of a district court may be derived from our cases. The foremost of these principles, as the Fourth Circuit itself recognized, is that "[a] finding is 'clearly erroneous' when although there is evidence to support it, the reviewing court on the entire evidence is left with the definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been committed." United States v. United States Gypsum Co., 333 U.S. 364, 395, 92 L. Ed. 746, 68 S. Ct. 525 (1948). This standard plainly does not entitle a reviewing court to reverse the finding of the trier of fact simply because it is convinced that it would have decided the case differently. The reviewing court oversteps the bounds of its duty under Rule 52(a) if it undertakes to duplicate the role of the lower court. "In applying the clearly erroneous standard to the findings of a district court sitting without a jury, appellate courts must constantly have in mind that their function is not to decide factual issues de novo." Zenith Radio Corp. v. Hazeltine Research, Inc., 395 U.S. 100, 123, 23 L. Ed. 2d 129, 89 S. Ct. 1562 (1969). If the district court's account of the evidence is plausible in light of the record viewed in its entirety, the court of appeals may not reverse it even though convinced that had it been sitting as the trier of fact, it would have weighed the evidence differently. Where there are two permissible views of the evidence, the factfinder's choice between them cannot be clearly erroneous. United States v. Yellow Cab Co., 338 U.S. 338, 342, 94 L. Ed. 150, 70 S. Ct. 177 (1949); see also Inwood Laboratories, Inc. v. Ives Laboratories, Inc., 456 U.S. 844, 72 L. Ed. 2d 606, 102 S. Ct. 2182 (1982).

* * *

When findings are based on determinations regarding the credibility of witnesses, Rule 52(a) demands even greater deference to the trial court's findings; for only the trial judge can be aware of the variations in demeanor and tone of voice that bear so heavily on the listener's understanding of and belief in what is said. See Wainwright v. Witt, 469 U.S. 412, 83 L. Ed. 2d 841, 105 S. Ct. 844 (1985).

Anderson v. Bessemer City, 470 U.S. 564, 573-74, 575, 84 L. Ed. 2d 518, 105 S. Ct. 1504 (1985).

We have reviewed the entire record carefully and conclude that the bankruptcy court's findings, including its credibility determinations, are not clearly erroneous. The bankruptcy court found the testimony of plaintiff and her husband "forthright and credible" and the testimony of defendant's witnesses "evasive and lacking in credibility." TBS I, 73 Bankr. at 857. All credibility conflicts were resolved in favor of the plaintiff.

Because of our decision, infra, that the first amendment is not implicated in this case, we do not reach TBS' argument that its first amendment claim requires that we independently review the facts. See Bose Corp. v. Consumers Union of United States, Inc., 466 U.S. 485, 80 L. Ed. 2d 502, 104 S. Ct. 1949 (1984) (free speech-libel case); Bender v. Williamsport Area School Dist., 741 F.2d 538, 542 n3 (3d Cir. 1984) (free exercise case), vacated on other grounds, 475 U.S. 534, 106 S. Ct. 1326, 89 L. Ed. 2d 501 (1986).

II. THE FACTS

At issue are three major gifts made by plaintiff to TBS in the amounts of $1,001,031.25, $5,000,325 FN2 and $500,000 and a number of smaller gifts totaling $80,000. Because of the importance of the facts on the issue of undue influence, we recite them in detail. Much of the testimony of the plaintiff was disputed, denied, or contradicted by Pastor Stevens, founder of TBS, and other members of TBS. Since the bankruptcy court found in favor of plaintiff, we state the facts in the light most favorable to her. Where there is a significant conflict between the plaintiff's testimony and those testifying on behalf of TBS, we have stated defendant's testimony in detail.

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FN2 These two gifts will be referred to as the $1,000,000 gift and the $5,000,000 gift, respectively.

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The Parties

Elizabeth Dayton Dovydenas, the plaintiff, was born in 1952 and grew up in Minnesota. She is an heir to the Dayton-Hudson fortune. Jonas Dovydenas is a freelance photographer. Plaintiff met him in 1977 when he taught a photography class in Minnesota in which she enrolled. In December of 1978, they were married. Because plaintiff was so much wealthier than Jonas, they decided that he need not work in order to support them, but rather, he should concentrate on his art and family projects. Plaintiff had a fortune of approximately $19,000,000, most of which was held by Okabena, the family-owned investment company based in Minnesota. Prior to her gifts to TBS, plaintiff's charitable contributions averaged about $ 10,000 per year, with a high of $127,000 in 1977 to an art center.

In the Spring of 1981, Jonas and plaintiff moved to Lenox, Massachusetts. The move was unrelated to TBS--neither plaintiff nor Jonas knew of TBS at this time. They hired Irene Colby as a housekeeper; she happened to be a member of TBS.

After moving to Lenox, plaintiff was interested in joining a church. In 1982, after visiting a few which she did not like, she and Jonas went to TBS. They liked what they saw and heard and left a $500 check in the collection plate.

TBS was founded in 1971 in Maine by Carl Stevens with 35 to 50 members. Stevens has no formal Bible study training but he has been a Fundamentalist preacher for 26 years. TBS is organized as a non-profit organization with Stevens as its head. It has a 12 person Board of Trustees which must approve Stevens' decisions. In case of a deadlock, a group of elders decides the outcome of an issue. In 1976, TBS moved to its current location in Lenox, Massachusetts, having grown to approximately 800 to 900 members. As of 1987, there were approximately 1,300 members. A large campus was purchased with member contributions; it contained a children's school for grades K-12, a nursery and the Stevens School of the Bible. Stevens taught at the Bible School and preached at the Church. TBS also ran radio and television ministries as well as operating a missionary boat, La Gracia, in the Caribbean. It has a network of voluntary affiliates across the globe. In 1982, there were between 18 and 20 such affiliated churches. By 1987, that number had grown to about 100 with a world-wide membership of about 17,000. There are also about 160 missions in 26 countries.

The Prelude

Plaintiff's Testimony

After the $500 check was left in the collection plate, Maureen Shea, plaintiff's new housekeeper and also a member of TBS (who was recommended by Colby when Colby left) FN3 brought to the house two TBS pastors, Thomas Schaller and John Lloyd, who set a date for Pastor Stevens to come for tea. Sometime in the Winter of 1982-83, Stevens and Barbara Baum, Stevens' lady friend at the time (he later married her), did go to plaintiff's house for tea. At this time, Stevens asked plaintiff and Jonas if they had "accepted Christ" and both answered no. At this first meeting, when Stevens was alone with plaintiff, he asked her for money for a counselling center. She gave him a check for $2,000. Baum and plaintiff were the same age, and they became friends.

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FN3 Each replacement or addition to plaintiff's staff was made by one TBS member recommending another.

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Jonas' stay with TBS was brief. At one point he and plaintiff loaned (and later turned the loan into a gift) $50,000 for La Gracia; Jonas also spent some time on La Gracia photographing the boat and its missionary operations. Jonas' activity in TBS decreased as plaintiff's activity increased.

In the summer of 1983, plaintiff's and Baum's friendship blossomed as plaintiff began attending TBS services. One day while Baum and plaintiff were talking on TBS campus, plaintiff asked Baum about tithing and being born again. Baum took plaintiff to see Stevens without a prior appointment, which was unusual. The three conferred; Baum took notes for plaintiff. Stevens was told that plaintiff was born again but that Jonas was not. To this, he responded that plaintiff was saved and in the light and that Jonas was not saved and was living in darkness. On the subject of tithing, Stevens directed plaintiff to some Bible passages on the subject of giving and not withholding from God. Baum typed up the notes she had taken and gave them to plaintiff.

In September 1983, plaintiff enrolled in two classes at the Stevens School of the Bible. Stevens taught these classes which met Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 9 a.m. and had an enrollment of about two hundred students. From 9 a.m. to 10 a.m., plaintiff attended a rap session led by Stevens which was also well attended but not as large as the class. Plaintiff was occasionally alone with Stevens in 1983. Late in 1983, Baum introduced plaintiff to Kathleen Hill, a member and employee of TBS and Baum's best friend. Plaintiff and Hill became friends.

In 1984, plaintiff became more involved in TBS activities and saw much more of Hill and Baum. Early in the year, Hill encouraged her to take charge of a women's seminar which was held in March. Plaintiff saw Hill and Baum frequently at lunch or TBS sponsored brunches. Plaintiff continued attending classes and rap sessions. She and Stevens also began spending more time together. FN4 She began accompanying him on his weekly Friday evening trips to Framingham, Massachusetts, where he preached at an affiliated church. Plaintiff's relationships with her non-TBS friends deteriorated as she spent more and more time with Stevens, Baum, and Hill.

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FN4 There has never been any suggestion that Stevens' and plaintiff's relationship was anything but platonic.

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In the period from November 1984 to April 1985, plaintiff saw Stevens alone on a daily basis: driving with him from class to rap sessions; seeing him at 11 a.m. after he finished with Telephone Time (a radio ministry); meeting with him in his office without a prior appointment; and driving with him to and from Framingham. Plaintiff testified that in these private meetings, she was given advice on religious, financial, and personal matters. She was told that she had to obey Stevens because he was the highest authority on earth. She was also told to listen to tapes of Stevens' speeches over and over and to take notes of all Stevens told her and then study those notes. She was to inundate her mind with Stevens' words. She disclosed her net worth to him, and he told her that her mission in life was to give and that her gifts could cause great events. Many discussions with Stevens, Baum and Hill focused on plaintiff's money and her giving it to others. Stevens told her that Jonas should get a job and that the family only needed $ 1,000,000 to live on. She was told not to listen to evil reports and that Jonas, his parents and her family were evil and were controlled by Satan and demons.

Defendant's Testimony

TBS' witnesses presented the following version of the same events. At trial, neither Schaller nor Lloyd were asked whether they set up the first meeting between Stevens and plaintiff; Stevens denied having sent them as emissaries. He did dine at plaintiff's house once at her invitation (Baum remembered twice). At this time, he asked if plaintiff and Jonas had accepted Christ; Jonas said no and plaintiff's response is unknown. Baum testified that only Jonas was asked and she took his ambiguous response to mean "no." At this dinner, Stevens did not ask for or receive any money. He did not know that plaintiff was wealthy nor did he encourage the budding friendship between plaintiff and Baum because of her money. It was plaintiff who sought out Baum in the beginning of their friendship.

Stevens did not recall any meetings with plaintiff in 1983. Baum testified that the tithing and born-again conversation occurred in January 1984; Stevens also put the meeting at that time. FN5 During the January meetings, they discussed Bible passages on tithing and giving as well as how to relate to Jonas. Stevens did not say that Jonas was a non-believer or that he was unsaved.

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FN5 Stevens' calendar shows two meetings with plaintiff and Hill in January. Stevens testified that Hill was detained with TBS work and that Baum filled in for Hill.

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Stevens denied seeing plaintiff in 1984 except for class, rap sessions, group lunches and by appointment. He did not recall driving with plaintiff to Framingham until 1985. The women's seminar was plaintiff's idea. Baum saw plaintiff at least once a week, mainly for prayer sessions.

Stevens testified that at no time could plaintiff see him without an appointment. His day was too busy for anyone to do so, except for TBS pastors and emergencies. He never said that he was especially anointed by God or that he spoke the literal truth or that he was the highest authority on earth or that he must be obeyed. Rather, he said that he was God's man just like all preachers are God's men, that he was a sinner like all men and that he was only to be followed when he followed God. He also denied telling plaintiff, or any of his congregation, to fill their minds with only his words. He denied ever telling her that non-believers including Jonas and her family were evil, not to be trusted and controlled by demons. Nor did he say that she had a special calling to give or that her gifts could cause great events on earth. He never told plaintiff that Jonas should get a job or that all they needed to live on was $1,000,000.

The $1,000,000 Gift

Plaintiff's Testimony

Baum and Stevens were engaged to be married in the Fall of 1984. Baum suffered from migraine headaches which regularly incapacitated her. Plaintiff was concerned about the headaches and their impact on the upcoming marriage. Stevens had been telling plaintiff that she was a special person who should give and to whom God could speak.

Plaintiff testified that in the Fall of 1984, before Stevens' wedding, while driving back from Framingham with him, she heard three things in her head, one of which was to give TBS $ 1,000,000. Shortly thereafter she had a discussion with Stevens; she told him that she was going to give TBS $ 1,000,000 and that she believed by doing so it would cure Baum's headaches. Stevens replied: "Great. I don't know which would be better, the million dollars or having her healed of her headaches." Plaintiff also told Hill and Baum of her intent to give the gift and her belief that it would cure Baum's headaches.

When plaintiff told Jonas about making the gift, he opposed it. Stevens told her to ignore contrary advice from Jonas or anyone else. Jonas contacted Okabena about the gift, and Okabena replied with a letter which detailed various options for giving TBS the money over longer periods of time and with more favorable tax consequences. On November 24, Baum and Stevens were married. The gift, in the form of a transfer of Dayton-Hudson stock worth $ 1,001,031.25, was completed in mid-December 1984.

On December 13, 1984, Jonas and plaintiff met with Stevens. At that meeting, Stevens said that he would not take any more money from plaintiff without Jonas' consent. After the $1,000,000 gift, Stevens, Baum, and Hill each told plaintiff that Baum's headaches were cured because of the gift. In fact, Baum continued to suffer from migraines but this was kept from plaintiff. Because she had been told by Hill, Stevens and Baum that Baum's headaches had been cured, plaintiff believed that large gifts by her to TBS could effect events on earth. In February and March 1985, Stevens emphasized to plaintiff the importance of obedience, the nearness of the end of the world and not listening to evil reports. In March and April, Stevens emphasized the ability of the holy spirit to control people.

Defendant's Testimony

TBS' witnesses presented a different version of these events. Baum's migraines were frequent and severe: she would either be bed-ridden or the pain on her face would be obvious. Stevens never told plaintiff that she had a special calling to give. In the Fall of 1984, Jonas told Stevens that plaintiff wished to give a large gift to TBS but did not tell him how much. On November 13, plaintiff told Stevens of the gift and its amount. At this time, she told him that after much prayer God had told her to give the money. Baum testified that plaintiff also told her that God had told plaintiff to make the gift. It was not until three weeks later that plaintiff told Baum that the gift might cure Baum's headaches; Baum told Stevens of plaintiff's statement. Hill was not informed of the link between the gift and the headaches until after the gift was completed. The ride from Framingham during which God spoke to plaintiff did not occur.

Stevens was not informed of Jonas' opposition to the gift until January 1985. The December 1984 meeting with Jonas was set up by Jonas to ask Stevens to contribute to a charity with which Jonas was involved. Stevens knew of the Okabena letter but never thought the gift was not freely made. Stevens denied telling plaintiff that she should ignore advice from Jonas or anyone else. He testified that what advice she got was up to her. In a January 2, 1985 meeting, Stevens learned of the marital friction developing between plaintiff and Jonas, but he did not tell her that Jonas should get a job or that she should give more money to TBS. Until this meeting, he thought that Jonas agreed to making the gift and that the marriage was harmonious. Stevens denied seeing plaintiff except at services from then until March 1985. In the Spring, he gave a series of sermons on giving but these were not directed at plaintiff and dealt with spiritual gifts such as mercy and helps. Stevens denied ever telling plaintiff not to listen to non-TBS members.

Stevens, Baum and Hill all denied telling plaintiff that Baum's headaches were cured. Immediately after the gift was made, Baum did feel better for about three weeks, and plaintiff was told this. But, at a January 2, 1985 lunch, at which plaintiff was present, Baum was stricken with another migraine; although nobody told plaintiff that it was a headache, this fact was obvious to all who were present. No one specifically told plaintiff that the headaches had returned, n6 but, no effort was made to conceal that fact from her.

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The $5,000,000 Gift

Plaintiff's Testimony

In March 1985, plaintiff told Stevens that she had heard God tell her to give $5,000,000 to TBS in June. Stevens told her not to tell Jonas about this. In early April, she again discussed the gift with Stevens while Baum was present.

Plaintiff had planned a trip with Jonas and her children to Florida on April 18 for her mother's birthday. On the morning of the 18th, before she left for Florida, Baum called her. Baum told her that Ben Turkia, a TBS pastor, had been detained in Rumania and that "they're probably pulling his fingernails out right now." Baum requested that plaintiff pray for Turkia. Plaintiff proceeded to Florida as scheduled. Jonas left after a few days while plaintiff stayed for another week. Right after Jonas left, on the evening of Sunday April 21, plaintiff called Stevens. She told him that she wanted to give the $5,000,000 right away in order to effectuate Turkia's release, to which Stevens responded, "Great, get a jump on the devil." At this time, he did not tell her that Turkia had already been released. Stevens emphasized that she should not tell anyone, especially Jonas, about the gift. The next day, she wrote to Ron Gross at Okabena requesting that the gift be made as soon as possible. She did not discuss the gift with any outside advisors. Upon returning to Lenox, she met frequently with Hill and Stevens. Both cautioned her against telling anyone, including Turkia, that she had worked a miracle, though they assured her that she had.

There was a dispute as to who knew what and when about the events surrounding the Turkia incident. Prior to trial, an attorney for TBS stipulated that: 1. Turkia and a companion entered Rumania on April 16, 1985; 2. Turkia and his companion were detained at the border and interrogated; 3. they were released and returned to Austria via Budapest, Hungary on April 17; and 4. while in Budapest, Turkia called his wife in Baltimore and told her of both the detention and release--the call was made on April 17 late in the evening Budapest time (early in the evening Eastern time).

At trial, there was evidence that in April 1985, Mrs. Turkia was living on TBS campus. Turkia and his companion were detained on April 16, 1985 in Rumania. They were released on April 17, arriving in Budapest, Hungary that evening. His companion called a friend in Pennsylvania who was told to call Mrs. Turkia. The friend in Pennsylvania called Mrs. Turkia. Mrs. Turkia immediately called Pastor Schaller, who called Stevens and Baum. By April 18, Turkia was in Austria staying with friends. That evening, Mrs. Turkia called Austria twice. The first call was a short one to friends, but not to where Turkia was staying. The second was a twelve minute call to the house where Turkia was staying. Turkia returned to the United States on April 24.

The bankruptcy court refused to allow TBS to withdraw the stipulation. On a motion by plaintiff, it struck portions of Turkia's, Mrs. Turkia's and Schaller's testimony to the extent they conflicted with the stipulation. The court's finding does not rely exclusively on the stipulation, but is based also on portions of the testimony of the above witnesses. The court found:

Turkia had been detained by Romanian border guards for only 24 hours, and had been released on April 17th. He arrived in Budapest, Hungary on April 17th at 8:00 P.M. Budapest time, at which point his companion placed a call to a friend in Pennsylvania informing him of what had happened and requesting him to call Turkia's wife. Turkia's wife was immediately informed of the detention and release. She was then living in Lenox in the home of Edward Canino ("Canino"), an employee of the Church.

TBS I, 73 Bankr. at 852 (emphasis added). The court also found "that Stevens and Baum were aware of Turkia's release when they discussed the impending $ 5 million gift with the [plaintiff] over the telephone on the evening of April 21st." Id. at 863.

Upon her return to Lenox from Florida, plaintiff met with Stevens and Hill. At those meetings, strategy for making Okabena deliver the gift quickly and confidentially was discussed. Stevens and Hill told plaintiff what to say to Okabena; except for the first call, Hill was with plaintiff whenever she talked to Okabena. On April 27, 1985, plaintiff, Stevens, Baum, Hill and Hill's husband went to a restaurant. At that time, Stevens told her that her $ 5,000,000 gift would be particularly influential in shaping the world for the return of God. Stevens also told plaintiff to write a letter to him and told her what to put in the letter. The next day, Hill dictated this letter to plaintiff who wrote it as she was told. The letter was given to Hill who gave it to Stevens. The letter stated that God had spoken to her, which was why she was making the gift, that no one from TBS had asked her for the gift or knew about it and that Stevens was to administer the gift.

On April 30, plaintiff's father called her because he had learned from his brother, an official at Okabena, of the proposed gift. In addition to inquiring about the gift, her father told her that he was going to visit her. She told her father to call back later and immediately called Stevens who told her to come to his office. Once there, Stevens told her to tell her father that a much smaller amount was being given. She agreed to do so and told Stevens that Jonas would be there that evening and would overhear her talk with her father. Stevens called a TBS employee, Ed Canino, and told him to take Jonas out for a long dinner. That evening plaintiff disarmed her father and convinced him not to visit her. The gift was completed on May 13, 1985 by transferring shares of Dayton-Hudson stock worth $5,000,325 to TBS.

Stevens told plaintiff to get a post office box so that Jonas would not see any mail regarding the $5,000,000 gift or plaintiff's finances. She rented the box on April 30, 1985 and told Okabena to send all mail addressed to her there.

In late May 1985, after Jonas returned from a trip to Afghanistan, Hill, Stevens and plaintiff met. Hill suggested that Stevens write a letter to plaintiff and that plaintiff leave the letter for Jonas to find. Thereafter, Stevens wrote a letter to plaintiff stating that she should honor Jonas and seek his advice in major financial matters. Stevens also wrote that he thought Jonas loved his family and God. Plaintiff left the letter for Jonas to find. Despite what Stevens wrote, he told plaintiff not to trust or listen to Jonas because he was a non-believing husband.

Defendant's Testimony

TBS' version of these events was again strikingly dissimilar. On March 19, plaintiff told Stevens that she was planning another large gift but she did not say how large. This meeting mainly concerned putting her son in a big brother program run by the Church. During the meeting, plaintiff also raised concerns about Jonas and his spendthrift ways. Stevens realized that there were serious problems when plaintiff said that Jonas was going to die because of his demons. Stevens told her not to judge Jonas.

On April 11, Stevens met with plaintiff again. When she again stated that she wished to make a large gift, he asked her if the gift would harm her marriage, her family or her future security. She replied that it would not. Stevens was still not told how large a gift plaintiff was considering but gained some idea of the amount when plaintiff circled some items she wanted the gift to go toward. Because of TBS' policy against direct solicitation of gifts, Stevens asked plaintiff whether there had been a solicitation by any TBS member. Plaintiff responded that there had been no solicitation and that God had led her to give. She asked Stevens if he wanted this in writing and Stevens replied that he would.

Turkia is connected not only with TBS but also with other religious groups. The trip he made in April 1985 was for an organization unconnected with TBS. FN7 Turkia was acquainted with plaintiff and Jonas because he had worked on plaintiff's estate cutting wood. Pastor Schaller told Stevens of the detention on April 16 or 17. Schaller had learned this from Mrs. Turkia who thought the friend in Pennsylvania had said that Turkia was still in custody and was facing a long prison sentence. Mrs. Turkia contended that she was unable to reach Turkia when she called Austria on April 18. As of the evening of April 21, the people at TBS still believed Turkia to be under Rumanian detention. On that evening, after regular services, a special prayer service was held for him. Stevens did not learn of the actual chronology until after Turkia returned. Schaller learned of Turkia's release between April 21 and 24 when he called the friend in Pennsylvania and learned of the miscommunication between Mrs. Turkia and the friend. He then informed Mrs. Turkia, Baum and Stevens of Turkia's release.

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On April 21, plaintiff spoke to Baum and not Stevens. In that conversation, plaintiff did not say that she wanted to give the gift earlier in order to save Turkia but rather, she wanted to give earlier as an inspiration from Turkia. Upon Turkia's return and at all times thereafter, nobody at TBS attempted to hide the actual chronology from plaintiff and no one ever told her that her gift had caused Turkia's release. Plaintiff was not prevented from discussing the events with Turkia when he was in Lenox.

As to when Stevens knew of the amount of the gift, he and other TBS pastors testified that it was not until after the Turkia incident was concluded. FN8 They said that several large gifts were being discussed during this time frame. Stevens learned of the amount when he received plaintiff's letter on April 28. Stevens did not request that letter except as noted above and he did not ask Hill to get plaintiff to write it. The meeting at which plaintiff said he requested the letter did not occur. Stevens contended that it could not have occurred since he stayed in Framingham on the night of April 26-27--TBS produced a hotel and a restaurant receipt to confirm this. On the 27th, he drove to Rhode Island and then to Connecticut to deliver a speech. Late that afternoon, he returned to Lenox and immediately went to a sports banquet.

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Hill denied helping plaintiff with the letter except to provide a Bible citation when asked by plaintiff. Hill never told plaintiff how to get Okabena to deliver the stock faster. She knew that plaintiff made six calls to Okabena but was only present at plaintiff's request.

With respect to keeping the gift confidential, Stevens felt that he should honor plaintiff's wishes. He, therefore, did not tell her family about the gift. He arranged for Jonas to be out of the house because he could tell that plaintiff had not told Jonas of the gift and did not want to do so. Stevens felt that plaintiff should do as God told her and that his first responsibility was to his communicant. He did not advise her either way about seeking outside advice. Baum told him that the gift was not proceeding quickly but he did nothing. He did not see plaintiff from April 11 until the gift was completed. FN9 He did not know of the post office box until the litigation began.

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The May 20 letter to plaintiff was a sincere letter which Stevens sent because of the continuing problems between Jonas and plaintiff. It was not a sham and neither Stevens nor Hill asked plaintiff to leave it where Jonas would find it. Stevens was not telling plaintiff in private anything that was contrary to what he said in the letter.

An Active Interlude

Plaintiff's Testimony

Because of Okabena's breach of confidentiality (in telling her father of the planned $5,000,000 gift) and because Stevens suggested it to her, plaintiff decided to retain a new attorney, a new stockbroker and a new accountant. In June 1985, Stevens and Hill introduced plaintiff to Andrew Campoli, TBS' attorney. Stevens also introduced her to James Freed, a broker with Dean Witter Reynolds, Inc. (Dean Witter) who had been recently retained by TBS to be its broker (mainly to handle the $5,000,000 gift). Finally, plaintiff chose Rick Burkhart, TBS' accountant, to be her accountant. She chose all three based on Stevens' recommendations without delving into their qualifications.

From July to November 1985, plaintiff met with Campoli many times, always with Hill in tow. Some meetings were taped by plaintiff at Hill's request. Hill reported to Stevens all that occurred at the meetings. The two reasons for seeing Campoli were the drafting of a new will and the drafting of an agreement between Jonas and plaintiff.

The will was discussed for five months before plaintiff executed it on December 13, 1985. In the will, she left the bare statutory minimum to Jonas, with Stevens as trustee for most of that. She left only her jewelry to her children. FN10 Everything else went to TBS.

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Stevens wanted her to get Jonas to sign an agreement after some unflattering newspaper articles appeared in a local paper, the Berkshire Eagle. The articles were a three-part series which reported allegations of dissension among former TBS members and pastors, improper actions by Stevens and other TBS members to get people to give money to TBS and eavesdropping by TBS. Hill was a major force in the drafting of the agreement--several drafts are in her handwriting. In pertinent part, the agreement stated that plaintiff would give Jonas $1,600,000 to do with as he wished, plaintiff would not make gifts from the principal of her estate without Jonas' consent, and plaintiff was leaving Jonas "an incredible amount" in her will. FN11 Jonas in return was to stop harassing plaintiff about her gifts and her beliefs. Plaintiff signed the agreement on December 16; Jonas never did. Stevens told plaintiff that the part about not giving from principal was only to be for a short time.

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Freed, plaintiff's new broker, communicated his thoughts about investing plaintiff's money to Stevens, but not to plaintiff, at Stevens' request. No one told her that Freed was also TBS' broker. Plaintiff's fortune was transferred from Okabena to Dean Witter. FN12 Freed advised her to sell all of her Dayton-Hudson stock and invest in higher income-producing items. She discussed the tax implications with both Freed and Burkhart, TBS' accountant. She sold the stock and incurred a large tax liability. At trial, she did not remember writing a letter to Freed in which she stated that she understood the tax implications of the sale and still wanted to go through with it. Jonas was never informed of the change to a new attorney and broker.

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Between July and November, 1985, plaintiff gave TBS an additional $80,000 in a series of checks: $14,000 in July; $50,000 in September; $10,000 in October; and two checks for $4,000 and $2,000 in November. No evidence was introduced as to the events surrounding these gifts. Plaintiff also gave Stevens $10,000 in cash in November. FN13

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FN13 The bankruptcy court included the gifts to TBS in its judgment for plaintiff; it did not allow the $10,000 to Stevens because that was a personal gift to Stevens, not TBS. See TBS I, 73 Bankr. at 870. Plaintiff has not appealed this exclusion.

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Witnesses for TBS gave the following account of the same events. Plaintiff asked Stevens for the names of Christian lawyers and brokers; she was very disturbed by Okabena's breach and wished to cut her ties with that organization. Stevens supplied her with the name of an attorney he got from a born-again organization, but plaintiff chose Campoli on her own after meeting with him. Campoli is not a born-again Christian. Stevens thought that plaintiff knew Freed before he introduced them; he thought they had initially been brought together by another TBS pastor. Plaintiff chose Freed as a broker only after extensively questioning him about his qualifications while in Stevens' office.

Stevens knew nothing about plaintiff's new will. Any input from Hill was at plaintiff's request; plaintiff was a headstrong lady who insisted on things being done as she wished. Any taping of meetings was done at plaintiff's request. Neither Hill nor Campoli reported to Stevens about their meetings. Plaintiff sold only a small portion of her jewelry while in New York, mainly items she no longer wore. Giving Jonas a large sum of money was an old idea pre-dating plaintiff's joining TBS. The idea was originally an estate planning mechanism. Stevens was in favor of an agreement between Jonas and plaintiff as a last effort to save their marriage.

Plaintiff's account at Dean Witter required her approval on all transactions before they were made and Freed obtained her approval before any transactions were made. Stevens contended that he had no active role in plaintiff's account even though he lost $10,000 in options trading through the account.

Stevens was very concerned about plaintiff's marriage. In the Fall of 1985, he had meetings with plaintiff concerning her marriage and Jonas' family. On November 7, 1985, he suggested that she try to reach an agreement with Jonas in order to stabilize the marriage. He denied that the timing of this suggestion was related to the publication of the Berkshire Eagle Articles a few days earlier. It was at this time that Stevens and TBS adopted a policy of not accepting gifts without the consent of both spouses. The new policy was not a reaction to the Berkshire Eagle Articles, but rather, was a further attempt to salvage plaintiff's marriage. Plaintiff was informed of this policy. Baum and others told Stevens that plaintiff was headstrong and would continue giving no matter what she was told. Because of this new policy, Stevens rejected a gift of two vans by plaintiff in the late Fall 1985. On November 22, plaintiff met with Stevens and told him that she would go through with the agreement. On December 10, Stevens and plaintiff met again; this time to discuss threats made against TBS and its members.

The $500,000 Gift

Plaintiff's Testimony

In December 1985, plaintiff decided to give another $ 500,000 to TBS. The genesis of this gift occurred as follows:

Well, while Kathy Hill was living in my home, and Jonas was in Afghanistan, Kathy told me one day that she overheard a conversation while working in the business office between Bruce Dunbar and Jack Leonard. And Jack Leonard had been telling Bruce Dunbar that for the completion of phase two and for phase three to start, that the Bible Speaks needed $500,000 for T.V. equipment, and she told me that she overheard that, and he made me wait all day long to hear her tell me that.

And I was beside myself about my relationship with Jonas, and when she told me that, I thought that if I gave $500,000, that that would solve my marriage problems, and she -- Kathy Hill wept and cried and thought that it was -- that's why she had overheard the conversation, so that I could give that money.

Plaintiff wrote a check on her Dean Witter account in that amount and a note stating that she had been led by God to make the gift. But Hill had other ideas:
She [Hill] told me [plaintiff] that she thought that from now on whenever I gave money to the Bible Speaks that I must give it in a way so that Carl Stevens would never know about it. And so she investigated how I could give money so that there would be no record of it.

Hill and plaintiff then arranged for an anonymous $ 500,000 gift to TBS using a cashier's check. Plaintiff received no advice concerning this gift from anyone but Hill.

Defendant's Testimony

TBS' witnesses presented another version of the same events. Stevens knew nothing about the $500,000 gift until this litigation began. In December 1985, plaintiff and Hill approached Pastor Leonard and asked him how to make an anonymous gift. He suggested the use of a cashier's check. Plaintiff requested that Leonard tell Stevens to go on television but asked Leonard not to tell Stevens from where the funds for this were coming. Leonard honored her wishes and told Stevens as little as possible: he told Stevens that a gift would be coming but did not tell him the amount or who was making the gift. Leonard was the president of the Stevens Bible School but was not a trustee of the Church. He, therefore, did not know and had no reason to know of the new policy concerning spousal consent of gifts. Prior to the $ 500,000 gift, Leonard knew of TBS' policy of not accepting gifts from plaintiff's principal, and he knew that Stevens had rejected the gift of two vans by plaintiff. Leonard did not explain how two vans (worth approximately $40,000) would violate the policy against invading plaintiff's principal but a gift of $500,000 would not. The gift was not returned when Stevens learned of its source because litigation had begun and TBS needed the money as a defense fund.

The Denouement

Throughout the Summer and Fall of 1985, plaintiff's relationships with her friends and family continued to deteriorate. Her family was concerned about the changes in plaintiff. Her father saw her in Minnesota in the Summer and in Lenox in the Fall. Plaintiff's sister, a social worker, was very concerned after plaintiff and Hill visited her in New York in November 1985. FN14 At that time, Hill was present at and active in most of plaintiff's conversations with her sister. Plaintiff specifically denied to her sister having given TBS any money.

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The Berkshire Eagle Articles appeared in early November 1985. Jonas' father sent the articles to plaintiff's father who distributed them to other family members. At this point, the family, including Jonas after he returned from Afghanistan, decided that something had to be done. They arranged to have plaintiff examined by a psychiatrist without her knowledge while she was in New York in December. FN15 They also decided to have plaintiff come to Minnesota without any TBS members on hand through the pretense of a surprise birthday party for her father.

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FN15 This examination was accomplished as follows. Plaintiff's sister hosted a musical evening at her apartment in New York and invited plaintiff and the psychiatrist, Dr. Halperin. After being introduced, the plaintiff and Halperin talked together for about forty-five minutes. Plaintiff did not know that Dr. Halperin was in fact examining her. In January 1986, Halperin examined plaintiff again, this time with her knowledge and consent.

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On December 26, 1985, plaintiff and Jonas met with Stevens in his office. At this time, Jonas asked Stevens whether he had received any gifts from plaintiff since the $1,000,000 gift. Stevens response was to "slap[] his table, he had the Bible there, he said, 'Jonas, I swear before Jesus Christ and on the Bible that I have never taken any money from Betsy without your knowledge.'" Although Stevens' statement was not true, plaintiff believed it to be true.

The family's ruse worked: plaintiff and Jonas went to Minnesota without any TBS members accompanying them. Once there, a surprise birthday party was duly held at a house other than her family's. After the party, the family told plaintiff that they wished to talk to her and to introduce her to two other people. This was the beginning of the exit counselling or deprogramming. FN16 After initial resistance, plaintiff began to accept the treatment, which consisted of talking to her family and the two exit counsellors and of viewing videotapes about cults and mind control groups. The turning point for plaintiff was when Jonas reminded her of the December 26, 1985 meeting with Stevens in which he swore he had taken no further gifts without Jonas' knowledge. When she realized that she had believed this patent lie, she decided that she needed help.

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No one threatened plaintiff with the loss of her children or an incompetency hearing if she refused the exit counselling. Nor did anyone force plaintiff to remain in Minnesota. Her family wanted plaintiff to be able to think for herself; they were not interested in changing her religious beliefs.

After a week with her family, plaintiff and Jonas went to Unbound, an Iowa program, for more exit counselling before returning to Lenox. During this time, plaintiff drafted a new will and consented to a temporary conservatorship.

III. MASSACHUSETTS LAW ON UNDUE INFLUENCE

In Massachusetts, "the elements necessary to prove undue influence [are] '(1) A person who can be influenced, (2) the fact of deception practiced or improper influence exerted, [and] (3) submission to the overmastering effect of such unlawful conduct.'" Miles v. Caples, 362 Mass. 107, 284 N.E.2d 231, 235 (1972) (quoting Neill v. Brackett, 234 Mass. 367, 126 N.E. 93, 94 (1920)). "The nature of the undue influence that will invalidate a will or a transfer inter vivos is explained in Neill v. Brackett, . . . . As to either sort of instrument, the nature and effect of undue influence is the same." O'Hearn v. O'Hearn, 327 Mass. 242, 97 N.E.2d 734, 735 (1951). "It generally takes less to establish undue influence" when a confidential relationship exists between the parties. Heinrich v. Silvernail, 23 Mass. App. Ct. 218, 500 N.E.2d 835, 841 [**42] (1986) (citing Doggett v. Morse, 299 Mass. 383, 12 N.E.2d 867 (1938)), further review denied, 399 Mass. 1101, 503 N.E.2d 665 (1987); see also Bruno v. Bruno, 384 Mass. 31, 422 N.E.2d 1369, 1372 (1981) ("unfair persuasion in the context of a confidential relationship constitutes undue influence in Massachusetts"); Neill, 126 N.E. at 94 ("careful scrutiny" must be given to transactions involving fiduciaries or intimate parties). It is important to point out that we have decided this case assuming that there is no presumption of undue influence in such circumstances. FN17 We have assumed no more than that one in a confidential position has a duty to disclose facts which should be disclosed in light of the confidential relationship. Markell v. Sidney B. Pfeifer Foundation, Inc., 9 Mass. App. Ct. 412, 402 N.E.2d 76, 95-96 (1980) (quoting Reed v. A.E. Little Co., 256 Mass. 442, 152 N.E. 918, 920 (1926)). This is a principle that would apply to religious and nonreligious circumstances alike. We also have strictly applied the legal rule that, the burden of showing undue influence is on the party seeking to avoid the transfers. See Tarricone v. Cummings, 340 Mass. 758, 166 N.E.2d 737, 740 (1960) (collecting cases).

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FN17 The district court cited Barnum v. Fay, 320 Mass. 177, 69 N.E.2d 470 (1946), for the proposition that "there is a presumption of undue influence when a gift is made pursuant to a confidential relationship." TBS II, 81 Bankr. at 760. Barnum, however, dealt with the higher fiduciary relationship between an attorney and a client. See also Markell v. Sidney B. Pfeifer Foundation, Inc., 9 Mass. App. Ct. 412, 402 N.E.2d 76, 94 (1980) (transactions with fiduciaries are "presumptively improper"). To reach the level of a fiduciary relationship, however, it must "manifest the relinquishment of control over financial affairs, the conferral of wide authority to act on important matters and make discretionary judgments, or the degree of reliance that usually lie[s] at the core of recognized fiduciary relationships . . . ." Heinrich, 500 N.E.2d at 841 n.8. There has been no claim that Stevens or anyone else from TBS stood in a fiduciary relationship vis a vis plaintiff. The bankruptcy court refused to use a presumption because of the unsettled state of Massachusetts law in this area. TBS I, 73 Bankr. at 859 (collecting cases and discussing issue). We adopt that court's statement that "the parties have tried this case without reference to presumptions, and we decide it without relying on any presumption." Id.

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Massachusetts has never directly addressed the question of whether a pastor-communicant relationship is per se a confidential one when undue influence is alleged. FN18 We need not decide whether Massachusetts would hold that the pastor-communicant is by itself a confidential relationship. Here, we have found such a relationship on the basis of other factors alone such as the close contact between the parties in the context of their relationship, Heinrich, 500 N.E.2d at 840-41, and knowledge by the recipient that the donor trusted or depended upon him, Eddy v. Eddy, 281 Mass. 156, 183 N.E. 268, 270 (1932), and requests by the donor for the recipient's advice or help, Doggett, 12 N.E.2d at 870.

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FN18 The closest the Supreme Judicial Court has ever come is in New England Merchants Nat'l Bank of Boston v. Mahoney, 356 Mass. 654, 255 N.E.2d 592, 595 (1970), where the following is stated:

J. Harold Mahoney's contention that Right Reverend Monsignor Enright exerted undue influence on and abused his confidential relationship with Dr. Mahoney does not require extensive discussion. No evidence was introduced concerning the relationship, other than that the men were friends, and that Dr. Mahoney was one of Monsignor Enright's parishioners. In addition, we note that the appointments to Monsignor Enright were not personal gifts.

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"Undue influence, while sometimes susceptible of proof by direct testimony, may be exercised by indirect and secret ways, which are disclosed only in their result." Raposa v. Oliveira, 247 Mass. 188, 141 N.E. 870, 870 (1924). Because undue influence is often practiced in "veiled and secret ways," its existence may be inferred from such factors as disproportionate gifts made under unusual circumstances, the age and health of the donor, and the existence of a confidential relationship. Neill, 126 N.E. at 94; see also Eddy, 183 N.E. at 269 (inexperience with financial matters and disposition of funds needed to generate sufficient income are facts to be considered); Slater v. Munroe, 316 Mass. 129, 55 N.E.2d 15, 16 (1944) (comparing size of questioned bequests to size of entire estate).

Two other factors are also important under Massachusetts case law. One, attempts by the recipient to isolate the donor from her former friends and relatives can be considered in determining undue influence. See, e.g., Livermore v. Seward, 311 Mass. 389, 41 N.E.2d 290, 295 (1942); Smith v. Stratton, 302 Mass. 17, 18 N.E.2d 328, 330 (1938); Mirick v. Phelps, 297 Mass. 250, 8 N.E.2d 749, 751 (1937); [**46] Hoffman v. Hoffman, 192 Mass. 416, 78 N.E. 492, 493 (1906). Two, a court can "also consider that she [the donor] acted without independent and disinterested advice. . . ." Old Colony Trust Co. v. Yonge, 302 Mass. 49, 18 N.E.2d 335, 337 (1938); see also Tarricone, 166 N.E.2d at 741; Israel v. Sommer, 292 Mass. 113, 197 N.E. 442, 447 (1935); Raposa, 141 N.E. at 871. Thus, the continuation of former relationships and the availability of independent counsel may help in counteracting an inference that undue influence played a role in the transactions.

In sum, "any species of coercion, whether physical, mental or moral, which subverts the sound judgment and genuine desire of the individual, is enough to constitute undue influence. Its extent or degree is inconsequential so long as it is sufficient to substitute the dominating purpose of another for the free expression of the wishes of the person [who gives]." Neill, 126 N.E. at 94. Nonetheless, "there must be a solid foundation of established facts upon which to rest an inference of its existence." Neill, 126 N.E. at 94. And, "the mere opportunity to exercise undue influence and the mere existence of a confidential relationship do not establish undue influence . . . ." Eddy, 183 N.E. at 270.

At trial, TBS stipulated that plaintiff was "susceptible", i.e. a person who could be influenced, thus conceding the first prong of the Massachusetts undue influence test. Our discussion, therefore, will focus on the second and third prongs of the test: deception practiced or improper influence exerted and submission to the unlawful conduct.

The $1,000,000 Gift

With these principles in mind, we turn to the first large gift made by plaintiff to TBS. Plaintiff testified that the idea for the $ 1,000,000 gift came to her as follows:


Well, when we got back in the car, [on the way from Framingham to Lenox,] Carl Stevens said to me, "Betsy, it seems like you've really been hearing from the holy spirit." And when he said that, I got three thoughts in my head. One, two, three. And I said, "Yes, I really have been hearing the holy spirit." And in fact, I had my notebook out, and I turned on the little light in the backseat of his car, and I wrote down the three things that I heard in my head that I should do. And the first one was that I should get baptized. The second one was that my children should be dedicated in The Bible Speaks in a certain kind of ceremony that they do with children, and that I should give a million dollars to the Bible Speaks.

There is no evidence that making the gift was suggested by anyone at TBS or that anyone at TBS told plaintiff that she should give the money in order to cure Baum's headaches. That notion also originated with plaintiff. Stevens had told her that her mission was to give and that her gifts would affect great events; at this time, he did not, however, make any specific statements or suggestions.

There is no doubt that Stevens stood in a confidential relationship with respect to plaintiff. But, a confidential relationship even when combined with the opportunity to unduly influence a person does not prove undue influence. Eddy, 183 N.E. at 270. The actions of Stevens and others were not sufficient to give rise to an inference of undue influence. General statements by Stevens and others that plaintiff should give to TBS and that such gifts would do great works are too amorphous to show undue influence. When the plaintiff told Stevens about her belief that the gift would cure Baum's headaches, his "nondisclosure" about this belief was not about a fact. A statement (or non-statement when there is a duty to disclose) about "conditions to exist in the future" is not a misrepresentation. See Chedd-Angier Prod. Co. v. Omni Publications Int'l, Ltd., 756 F.2d 930, 939 (1st Cir. 1985) (collecting Massachusetts cases). Stevens was under no duty to tell plaintiff that her gift would not cure Baum. At trial, Stevens was not asked whether he believed that the gift could cure Baum's headaches. The failure to disclose the fact that Baum's headaches were not in fact cured occurred after the gift was made and could have in no way influenced the gift.

This is not a case, as with subsequent gifts, where the plaintiff had already been misled by prior statements, or where she was convinced to give earlier than she planned to, nor is this an instance where a direct solicitation was made under circumstances where the plaintiff was emotionally isolated from all outside advice and believed her gifts could affect temporal events.

Here, plaintiff received advice from both Jonas and Okabena and she chose to ignore the advice. Plaintiff was in her thirties, in good health, and a college graduate. Plaintiff has failed to establish a "solid foundation" upon which to infer that undue influence was applied to effectuate the $ 1,000,000 gift. We hold that the courts below erred in finding that this gift was the result of undue influence.

The $5,000,000 Gift

Although the thought of making this gift originated with plaintiff, her decision to make it earlier than had been planned was determined by four factors, all of which were fashioned by TBS' agents. The first was the deliberate fostering by Stevens, Baum and Hill of plaintiff's belief that her gift of $ 1,000,000 had cured Baum's headaches. The fact was that the headaches continued and all three knew it. Plaintiff testified that, because she believed Baum's headaches had been cured, "I felt that my money had great power and I felt that -- I even became to feel that my money -- that in giving money to The Bible Speaks that I could change the course of history. I could change human history." Stevens fostered these thoughts: "He said that my money -- he said that when I gave money to The Bible Speaks that, that released God's judgment and that that judgment would show itself in cataclysmic events."

The second factor was Stevens' influencing plaintiff not to tell her husband or family about the gift. Plaintiff testified that when she told Stevens that she was going to give TBS $ 5,000,000 in June, he replied:
Great. And then he said that he thought that Jonas should not know about this gift.

. . .

He thought that it was really important that Jonas not know, because -- because Satan was controlling Jonas, and he didn't believe that we should let the enemy know about this, because he thought that the enemy would try to stop this gift from happening. And he thought that Jonas would just be letting all the demons in hell loose if he were to know.

Plaintiff did not tell any member of her family of her intention to give TBS $ 5,000,000 because Stevens had told her that her family was evil and not to be trusted.

The third factor was the deliberate misrepresentation by Baum and Stevens that Turkia was being held in Rumania at great danger to his life. Plaintiff told Stevens in April that she wanted to give TBS the $5,000,000 immediately instead of in June as she had planned in order to effectuate Turkia's release. Stevens encouraged this and did not tell that Turkia had already been released and was in no danger.

The fourth factor was the letter Stevens prevailed upon plaintiff to write stating that the gift was prompted by God, and that no one from TBS asked her to make the gift or knew that she was going to make it. This last part was false. Stevens and Baum knew about the gift before it was made and accelerated its delivery.

These facts lead inexorably to a finding of undue influence. If plaintiff had been told that Baum's headaches had not been cured by her first gift of $1,000,000, she may not have made the second gift at all. If she had not been influenced to keep the gift a secret from husband and family, she may not have gone through with it. If she had been told that Turkia was in no danger, she probably would not have accelerated the gift. And the letter composed by Stevens, dictated by Hill and written by plaintiff is damning evidence that Stevens and Hill knew they were engaging in improper conduct.

There was a solid foundation of evidentiary facts from which undue influence was properly found.

The $500,000 Gift

While plaintiff's husband was abroad and Hill was staying at plaintiff's home, Hill told plaintiff that she overheard a conversation between two TBS officials that $500,000 was needed for television equipment. Plaintiff was greatly concerned about her marriage and decided to give the money in an attempt to resolve her marital problems--having already been convinced that her gifts could effectuate such wishes. Rather than make the gift directly and openly, Hill prevailed upon plaintiff to make it anonymously and without other advice.

We agree with the lower courts that this gift was the result of undue influence. There was a not so subtle appeal for a large gift when plaintiff was concerned about her marriage, and Hill knew that plaintiff believed that large gifts could affect temporal events. The circumstances surrounding the gift were suspicious. At the time, TBS had pervasive control over plaintiff's business and legal affairs. The gift was made without outside advice at a time when the plaintiff was isolated from her non-TBS friends and relatives and when her husband was away.

The Small Gifts Totalling $80,000

Plaintiff introduced no evidence at trial with respect to the circumstances surrounding the $ 80,000 in checks she gave TBS in the Summer and Fall of 1985. TBS did not waive the need for separate proof as to each gift. While TBS' attorney admitted that, as a practical matter, these gifts did not make much of a difference, he nonetheless stated that "it's all an issue and they have to make proof to any and all of it." Because of the dearth of evidence, plaintiff has failed to present a solid foundation of facts from which to find undue influence was the cause of these gifts. Neither court below offered an analysis or discussion of these gifts beyond noting their occurrence, TBS II, 81 Bankr. at 753; TBS I, 73 Bankr. at 856, and a conclusionary statement "that all of the [plaintiff's] gifts were the product of undue influence exercised upon her by the Church through Stevens," id. at 863-64. The rescission of these gifts must be reversed.

IV. THE FIRST AMENDMENT DEFENSE

TBS makes two arguments for invoking the protection of the first amendment. The first is that the statements and/or actions of Stevens and others that influenced the plaintiff to make the gifts are protected by the free exercise clause. Or to put it more broadly, the free exercise clause shields the solicitation of funds by a religious organization from attack; the gifts are sacrosanct. This argument invokes the protection of the free exercise clause for TBS.

The second argument, by contrast, seeks the protection of the free exercise clause for the plaintiff, the donor of the gifts. TBS argues that at the time the gifts were made, the only influence plaintiff was under was that of God and her religious beliefs or that even if the gifts were in part caused by improper influence by TBS agents, they were also the result of plaintiff's own sincerely held religious beliefs. In either case, the courts are precluded from inquiring into plaintiff's reasons for making the gifts.

We first determine whether the first amendment shields the acts of TBS agents from inquiry and attack. The free exercise clause reads: "Congress shall make no law . . . prohibiting the free exercise [of religion] . . . ." The extent and limits of this constitutional guarantee have been delineated. In Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296, 84 L. Ed. 1213, 60 S. Ct. 900 (1940), the Court set aside a conviction for breach of the peace because it violated the petitioner's constitutional guarantees of religious liberty and freedom of speech. During the course of the opinion, the Court stated: "Nothing we have said is intended even remotely to imply that, under the cloak of religion, persons may, with impunity, commit frauds upon the public." Id. at 306. The Court has made it clear that "only beliefs rooted in religion are protected by the Free Exercise Clause, which, by its terms, gives special protection to the exercise of religion." Thomas v. Review Bd. of the Indiana Employment Sec. Div., 450 U.S. 707, 713, 67 L. Ed. 2d 624, 101 S. Ct. 1425 (1981). The clause does not allow purely secular statements of fact to be shielded from legal action merely because they are made by officials of a religious organization.

Non constat that we accept the breadth of defendants' deductions from the First Amendment cases, leading to their repeated assertions that their religious freedoms are being interfered with. Their case of United States v. Ballard, [322 U.S. 78, 64 S. Ct. 882, 88 L. Ed. 1148 (1944)], merely holds that there can be no claim that a professed religious tenet was not honestly advanced. It does not hold that a religious organization may make such secular statements as it chooses in seeking contributions, so long as they serve a charitable purpose.

SEC v. World Radio Mission, Inc., 544 F.2d 535, 537 n.3 (1st Cir. 1976); see also Van Schaick v. Church of Scientology of California, Inc., 535 F. Supp. 1125, 1141 (D. Mass. 1982) ("The First Amendment protects utterances which relate to religion but does not confer the same license for representations based on other sources of belief or verification."); id. at 1140; Molko v. Holy Spirit Ass'n for Unification of World Christianity, 46 Cal. 3d 1092, 762 P.2d 46, 64-65, 252 Cal. Rptr. 122 (rescission of gift on undue influence grounds can be based on secular fraudulent statements concerning the nature of the organization one is joining, reh'g denied & opinion modified, 47 Cal. 3d 470a (1988).

Neither our decision in this case nor the proceedings below implicates the religious tenets of TBS or the beliefs of its adherents. The findings and rulings rest solely on secular statements and actions. The facts relied upon have not been derived from an inquiry into the religious principles of TBS or the truth and sincerity of its adherents' beliefs. There has been no inquiry as to whether Stevens and the other TBS adherents were acting in accord with what they perceived to be the commands of their faith. See Thomas v. Review Bd., 450 U.S. at 716. Those who run TBS may freely exercise their religion, but they cannot use the cloak of religion to exert undue influence of a non-religious nature with impunity. The five million dollar gift and the half million dollar gift might have had their seeds in the religious beliefs of plaintiff but they were both nurtured and brought to fruition by misstatements and distortions of facts that had no basis either in the religious tenets of TBS or the plaintiff's religious beliefs.

The second argument, which seeks to shield plaintiff's reasons for making the gifts from judicial examination, fails for two reasons. First, as already discussed, the court was not prevented by the first amendment from determining whether the secular reasons for making and accelerating the gifts was the result of undue influence. Second, the plaintiff has not claimed the protection of the first amendment. TBS may raise only its free exercise claims, not those of the plaintiff. See Wisconsin v. Yoder, 92 S. Ct. 1526, 406 U.S. 205, 230-31, 32 L. Ed. 2d 15 (1972) ("It is the parents who are subject to prosecution here for failing to cause their children to attend school, and it is their right to free exercise, not that of their children, that must determine Wisconsin's power to impose criminal penalties on the parent."). TBS cannot use plaintiff's former religious beliefs as a shield against plaintiff's claim of undue influence.

We find, as did the courts below, that the free exercise clause to the first amendment is not implicated.

The other issues raised by defendant have been considered but do not merit discussion.

SUMMARY

The rescission of the gift of one million dollars is reversed.

The rescission of the gifts totalling $ 80,000 is reversed.

Affirmed in part, reversed in part.

No costs to either party on appeal.

The motion of April 12, 1988 by plaintiff to dismiss this appeal on the grounds that TBS has no standing to appeal is denied.

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-09-2004, 03:25 AM
Wow JD, what an interesting read.


This one sentence below summed it up for me.. "damning evidence"...


..."And the letter composed by Stevens, dictated by Hill and written by plaintiff is damning evidence that Stevens and Hill knew they were engaging in improper conduct." ....


We have lots of damning evidence right here on factnet also....

S.T. (216.37.186.185)
06-09-2004, 03:55 AM
R.J. could you email me the transcripts @joyfulnwbging@epix.net

Anonymous (207.7.204.244)
06-09-2004, 03:59 AM
Stevens filed a Chapter 7 and listed the Lincoln as one of his only assets. Yet, when he fled to Baltimore, he gave out cash to many of the people who followed him (including to Redgate for his education). He paid for downpayments on houses and deposits on apartments for many who followed him there. One can only draw the conclusion that the money he was using at that time belonged to Elizabeth Doveydenas. I know, it's all "water under the bridge".

If it's true about the mega-donation, though, and people know about it, they would do well to reveal it and bring on the media and warn the saps who are giving it.

COG (70.16.28.242)
06-09-2004, 04:43 AM
RJ is going to snail mail me the paperwork so that I can scan and post it.
I may need some pointers on how to post it once it is scanned.

10:59. I also remember Stevens getting a brand new Sterling (car) when we moved to MD. I later remember him making a comment from the pulpit about it being a gift from many of the people of the church. He said "Many of you have commented about my car. I didn't even know what a Sterling was. It is a very expensive car. It was a gift, and I am thankful for it."

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-09-2004, 05:05 AM
Yes, I am sending you the Martin CRI Report and the transcript of the judges decision in the Doveydenas case, COG....great stuff to post here if you can, really.

Roberta

Anonymous (4.139.15.250)
06-09-2004, 07:01 AM
Isaiah 42:8 "I am the Lord; that is My name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

JD Skeet (149.174.164.83)
06-09-2004, 11:35 AM
RJ:

The case I posted above is the decision in the Doveydenas case. At least its the decision that matters now. There was an original opinion in the Bankrupcy court, then about a gillion motions and those decisions, and then the Mass Court of Appeals decision, and then the Fed. District Court, then the decision posted above from the Fed. Circuit, and then the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal. So the bottom line is the case above. That is not to say that other matters were not addressed in those other decisions, but I think the big issue was addressed and resolved in the case posted above.

Anonymous (68.34.121.207)
06-09-2004, 12:17 PM
Where is Kathy Hill?

Anonymous (207.7.192.210)
06-09-2004, 12:44 PM
Where is Kathy Hill?

That's what I'd like to know. I always thought she would be a liability and they would somehow get rid of her. Please if anyone knows, post it.

T. (216.99.185.50)
06-10-2004, 03:08 PM
Cathy and David Hill are still very active in GGWO and attend services at homebase. David runs an auto body and paint shop. Their daughter Barbara (named for Baum) is in Bible College and sings with one of the teen groups called Crossroads I think.

Anonymous (68.33.60.157)
06-11-2004, 01:12 AM
JD,

You said the facts are recited in the light most favorable to Dovydenas. What does that mean?

I read it carefully and it seems to me that the facts as presented here indicate that the judge heard both sides and chose to believe Dovydenas and not TBS. Am I to assume there was evidence not presented above that led the judge to believe one side over the other. Was either side accused of purjury or contempt? Dovydenas' accusations do not seem imposible to make, but the church's responses do not seem unreasonable, at least not to me.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 01:35 AM
It has to do with the nature of an appeal.

Normally, the facts of a case are determined by the court of first impression, the trial court. Here the trial court was the bankruptcy court in MA.

Normally, appeals are base on judicial error, failure of the judge to apply the law properly. But because the facts of the case are so closely related to the application of the law, it was necessary for the court to revisit the facts in order to determine whether there was judicial error. The court did not find clear error as to trial court ascertaining the facts. The court explains that "since the bankruptcy court found in favor of plaintiff, we state the facts in the light most favorable to her. Where there is a significant conflict between the plaintiff's testimony and those testifying on behalf of TBS, we have stated defendant's testimony in detail."

I post again to answer your other questions, which center around the diffence between truth and evidence.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 01:44 AM
I don't know why I consistently lie to myself and tell myself that I don't need to use spell check.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 02:29 AM
This judge did not hear the evidential testimony of the witnesses, the trial court judge did. You may assume that the trial court judge found the testimony of some witnesses more compelling than others and that the failure of TBS to provide enough compelling witnesses contributed to their losing the case.

In court, what is true is what you can prove. Facts = Evidence.

You use evidence to prove what is true. The court says that "credibility was a key factor in determining the facts." This means that the credibility of the evidential testimony of the witnesses was key factor in determining the facts.

What the judge in the trail court does is weigh the quality of the evidence. The judge does not need to think that someone is lying (perjury) to devalue the quality of the testimony given as evidence. The relationship of the witness to the defendant or the plaintiff can devalue their testimony.

The appeals court is reviewing the record from the trail court. The appeals court gives deference to the trail court, which is why it gave deference to the plaintiff, because the trail court determined that the plaintiff's version of the facts (what the plaintiff proved to be true) should prevail.

I assume that after explaining this it is apparent that what is presented as the fact in the case is not necessarily true, it's just what could be proven in court. If you read the first part of the case again, I think you will recognize that the court is explaining what it is reviewing.

nonotone (24.211.177.206)
06-11-2004, 02:35 AM
JD

Your posts are incredibly astute and terse. As you have also pointed out, I'm not a JD. I would be interested, however, in having you enlighten us as to any legal theory that could AUTHENTICATE the allegations that Pastor Carl H. Stevens committed multiple acts of adultery - without proper church discipline. IMHO, if these allegations are true, then this provides the ROOT explanation for so much of the moral, doctrinal, and governmental (church that is) corruption being revealed here.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 02:50 AM
Read "trail" as "trial" in the post above. Good grief.

And try to ignore the absence of any possible logical structure to the answer.

What can I say?

Anonymous (68.33.60.157)
06-11-2004, 03:07 AM
Thanks JD,

That was good stuff, but it's difficult for me to draw my own conclusions from the above case. Did you ever read the transcript from the court of first impression as you called it. If so, did you agree with judge's decision?

Anonymous (68.33.60.157)
06-11-2004, 03:15 AM
9:35

I cannot speak for JD but in my opinion you only need one thing that you do not have and that is evidence.

Anonymous (68.33.104.166)
06-11-2004, 03:18 AM
The point is this: if you read all three transcripts, it is very clear that TBS is in error. Even though GG says they never lied, there is clear evidence of cover up and lying on part of TBS. Every appeal court agreed and the Supreme Court refused to hear it. Enough said. GG can give all the excuses they want to try to dismiss TBS' error but the fact is they were dishonest.

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 03:22 AM
Glaringly dishonest. More waffles in their testimony than a boxful of Eggos.

Anonymous (68.33.60.157)
06-11-2004, 03:31 AM
10:18&22,
I have not had the oportunity to read the other transcripts. Have you? I reserve the right to disagree with the judges in this case just as I disagree with the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage and the US Supreme Court on Roe v Wade.

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 03:45 AM
Yes, I have read it.

Anonymous (207.7.201.222)
06-11-2004, 03:50 AM
Thanks for the info on Kathy Hill. I remember her on 60 Minutes, or quoted in the newspapers (or maybe both), saying "Absolutely, positively a lie" when they asked her if Stevens used undue influence.

It's kinda like:
"100 Million Percent Satanic Garbage"

Thanks, JD, it's not difficult to drawer my own conclusions. I find it astonishing that Stevens had so many people helping him and apparently still can't admit it.

Then again, I saw so many in branches get taken for everything they had by the 'little pastors', even the very poor...still happening I bet.

Apparently, if it is true about the $25 mil gift, it's about to happen all over again.

By the way, does anyone know if Elizabeth Grady is still in?

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 03:52 AM
NoNotONe:

Legal Theory: Where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

I think the law is pretty useless here, actually.
Like I said before the only purpose of the law is to make you physically whole where it can, but it cannot mend broken hearts.

But if you insist on a theory, here's one.

Marriage is a three way contract between the Wife, the Husband and God. Only one of those three has standing to make a complaint regarding the promises made in the marriage. So everyone's opinions regarding Pastor Stevens' moral character are pretty irrelevant, since if you're not one of those three, no promises were made to you.

Personally, I'm not very interested in who Pastor Stevens has shacked up with, and I'm not sure that everyone else is either, really. I think the real problem is that there is an implied marriage contract between a Pastor and his church. Perhaps the real issue is that Pastor Stevens broke the implied contract.

It seems as though those who were in that that church and loved it, and loved Pastor Stevens' part in it, feel that if he was shacking up with these women, he was really cheating on the church and in turn cheating on them. People are angry because they believed his relationship with the church was based on a lie; and because he that broke an implied contract term of fidelity to the church and the teachings that the church was/is built upon.

On this board, people are dealing with this infidelity differently. Some people have a "Stand by Your Man" kind of take on this, and some people have pulled out the shotgun. A lot of people seem to think that they need to be treated better than they have been and have walked out the door. (This is why I think it is a matter of the heart and not legal reasoning: your heart either tells you "he cheated on me" or it doesn't.)

Very few jurisdictions still treat adultery as a crime, thus it is usually only comes up in civil matters, like divorce. The standard for most civil matters is preponderance of the evidence, 51%.

If you want to make Pastor Steven's morally culpable breaking an implied contract with the church by committing adultery, then the standard for authentication might as well be a preponderance of the evidence.

And now we are back to "where there's smoke, there is usually fire."

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 03:56 AM
Nicely said, JD. Great analogy.

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 03:57 AM
JD,
How long were you in GG? Are you still in? I'm not sure I understand the position you are coming from. Are you just an interested outside observer?

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 04:06 AM
JD, there is someone trolling for info tonight.

10:57 was not the same as 10:56.

They are cloaking there IP#, but not their intentions.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 04:17 AM
My family was in TBS for at least 20 years. I rejected Pastor Stevens when I was in my mid teens.

And as for my position, I don't really have one (which is not to say I don't have personal opinions), except that I try to facilitate open and responsible discussion of the issues.

Anonymous (207.7.201.222)
06-11-2004, 04:20 AM
JD,

Marr says that Grutman didn't do a good job in representing Stevens, but I heard that he did the right thing by bringing the case to Bankruptcy Court first.

The fact that Stevens fled to Baltimore with plenty of cash after claiming bankruptcy seems to show that he is at best a liar.

He didn't leave until the court sent the auditor in. They knew that the cash would be counted now and they wouldn't be able to skim it.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 04:23 AM
Thank you, but no worries.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 04:31 AM
I don't know enough about bankruptcy or the case to play armchair quarterback.

Cordell Walker (66.90.181.249)
06-11-2004, 07:44 AM
JD wrote:
"I think the real problem is that there is an implied marriage contract between a Pastor and his church. Perhaps the real issue is that Pastor Stevens broke the implied contract"

You might be a lawyer, but you're no theologian. See the requirements of what a pastor MUST be in 1Tim3. They are explicit rather than implicit:

"An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. 4 He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity 5 (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?), 6 and not a new convert, so that he will not become conceited and fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil. 7 And he must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil."

In how many of the above requirements does Carl Stevens fall short? These are not suggestions, rules of thumb, or ideals--they are requirements, hence the use of the word MUST. For "husband of one wife," read "one woman kind of man." Not addicted? Not pugnacious? Have a good reputation with those outside the church? Above reproach? FREE FROM THE LOVE OF MONEY?????

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-11-2004, 07:58 AM
In how many of the above requirements does Cordell fall short? Literally speaking of course.

Roberta

Cordell Walker (66.90.181.249)
06-11-2004, 08:01 AM
Roberta, I do believe you're stalking me. Why don't you enlighten us and tell me in how many I fail? That way I can turn from my error.

JD Skeet (152.163.253.102)
06-11-2004, 02:08 PM
Cordell:

Listen you old curmudgeon, the last time I responded to you I conceded your point and you still argued with me, so why should I bother with you now?

Really, lighten up. If you don't like the theory as it is, make it better, you are obviously in a position to do so, if you so choose. You use your intellectual gifts like a club and it's tedious for people to constantly be whacked over the head by it.

That said, if I were inclined to think of the Bible as a contract, and I am not, I would say that it is a contract between God and each individual. There are definitely third party beneficiaries of that contract( the neighbor you love, the poor you minister to, the neighbor whose wife you don't covet, etc.), but the obligations in the Bible are between you and God. So my theory is that the standard of I Tim 3 is the obligation owed to God. The Bible may give the church rights in the Bible as to what options may be pursued by the church when a Pastor breaks his promise to God, but the real injury regarding that broken promise is to God, not the church.

Implied contracts are construed by the behavior of the parties absent a writing between them. The Bible is not a writing between the church and the Pastor. So I'm sticking with the theory that the contract the Pastor has with the church is only implied.

I think the better argument against my theory is that there was an explicit oral contract between the church and pastor.

Anonymous (152.163.253.102)
06-11-2004, 02:30 PM
There is an explicit oral contract between human beings. It is called the moral code. Carl Stevens has broke every tenet of that code. If he was just a friend, he would be a friend no longer. But he was my pastor, he named himself as a representative of God. And as God's representative, he broke every tenet of the moral code and called it "God." Nothing short of being held accountable by the Christian community and the world is needed. He should forever be known as the spiritual father that raped his own children.

John Krainis (207.5.239.219)
06-11-2004, 04:38 PM
Folks, a common theme among the "ex's" posting on this board is celebrating what God has done in bringing us through, being able finally to communicate and connect, and being a resource and encouragement for those still in gg.

Cordell has worked hard "contending for the faith". JD Skeet and Roberta have added unique and excellent input. I've appreciated all three. But since all this is still emotionally charged, and since we can't really identify a person's "tone of voice" in these postings, I would just suggest that we practice radical courtesy, like Ronald Reagan always did (how's that for bringing in current events!), and choose to read others as favorably as possible.

The experience we have in common is a powerful one. It's nice to know that we don't have to follow the old tactic of going for the jugular when someone disagrees with us.

(Hope that doesn't sound like a scolding grand-mother...)

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-11-2004, 04:48 PM
*LOL* Stalking you? Naw....just having a bit of fun. I am too old and married to do any stalking *LOL* Twas a mere light hearted quip.

Roberta

RJ (141.154.186.91)
06-11-2004, 04:51 PM
"since we can't really identify a person's "tone of voice" in these postings, I would just suggest that we practice radical courtesy, like Ronald Reagan always did (how's that for bringing in current events!), and choose to read others as favorably as possible."

Amen...I will take your kind reminder to heart. Thank you John.

Roberta

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 05:08 PM
John:

You must have missed my post regarding censors. The only censor I submit to is myself. I am content that I have been true to myself and my moral code.

Cara (149.174.164.83)
06-11-2004, 05:09 PM
Life is mostly froth and bubble,

But two things stand like stone.

Kindess in another's trouble,

And courage in our own.


Simple little ditty, let's practice kindness to one another and steps of courage as we continue our journey with our gracious God.

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 05:13 PM
JD,
are you a lawyer or do you have legal training?

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 05:17 PM
why?

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 05:19 PM
because you sound like you are a lawyer and I was just wondering

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 05:22 PM
Now, what did John just say about throwing around insults...

Anonymous (64.12.117.20)
06-11-2004, 05:24 PM
LOL! no insult intended... But you are definitely very knowledgable about legal things!

Cordell Walker (66.90.181.249)
06-11-2004, 06:32 PM
"That said, if I were inclined to think of the Bible as a contract, and I am not, I would say that it is a contract between God and each individual. There are definitely third party beneficiaries of that contract( the neighbor you love, the poor you minister to, the neighbor whose wife you don't covet, etc.), but the obligations in the Bible are between you and God. So my theory is that the standard of I Tim 3 is the obligation owed to God. The Bible may give the church rights in the Bible as to what options may be pursued by the church when a Pastor breaks his promise to God, but the real injury regarding that broken promise is to God, not the church."

My dear brother, the word "contract" should be replaced with the word "covenant." As far as the obligations in the Bible being between you and God that is only partly true. The "covenant" is imposed by One party on the others. It begins, and I paraphrase, "I will be your God and you will be my people." Then the requirements are set out in two parts, Love God, Love your neighbor. That covenant is one of Grace, in that it is Christ who is responsible for keeping it perfectly on our behalf, imputing his righteousness to us. God's covenants are ALWAYS to people and their descendants (see Acts 2:38-39) hence while they include us personally, they are for us only as a member of the group with whom the covenant was made. Hence pastoral obligations are dual, duty to God who commands the elder to "feed the flock." See Jn.21 Christ's command to Peter and in Peter's epistles his repetition of the same to other elders. This is from the Curmudgeon. (How old do I have to be to qualify for this title, I wouldn't want to have acquired it too youthfully as I did my TBS ordination.) Sorry if I hammered you. I have just had a little difficulty figuring out your stand. Thanks John for your sensibility.

JD Skeet (205.188.117.20)
06-11-2004, 07:50 PM
Cordell:

I accept that "covenant" may be more appropriate than "contract." I guess you could say that anyone under a covenant has standing to call someone on the carpet for breaking it. Of course, I have trouble with this because who hasn't broken the covenant.

But you do remember that I was asked for a "legal theory that could AUTHENTICATE the allegations that Pastor Carl H. Stevens committed multiple acts of adultery - without proper church discipline." So I offered a legal theory, as an intellectual exercise. You didn't buy the theory, and that's fine. If a theory can't stand up to criticism, it wasn't much of a theory.

My guess is that you are about the age of my parents, so to me you qualify as a curmudgeon.

Cordell, you do know my stand on things. It's right in front of your nose. You're just looking for a sparring partner.

Curmudgeon Old enough to be JDs Dad Walker (66.90.181.249)
06-11-2004, 08:33 PM
Senor Skeets,
There is a lot of unbiblical garbage on these boards. And a lot of it stems from the poor teaching received at TBS remaining as a vestige even amongst those who've been out for years. So if I seem a little confrontational, I apologize. It seemed to me you were attempting to straddle the fence. I was apparently mistaken. I will now wear the badge you've given me.

JD Skeet (152.163.253.102)
06-11-2004, 09:15 PM
Cordell:

You can only wear the badge if you wear it proudly.

Anonymous (4.155.30.47)
06-11-2004, 11:39 PM
To the 9:30 am post,

I wept when I read your post. I have been feeling the very same mixture of anger and outrage. I have been thinking that I feel as though I have been spiritually raped.

You have stated it well.

Anonymous (68.33.60.157)
06-12-2004, 03:57 PM
JD,

Your recent post comparing the Bible to a contract between God and the individual believer inspired some thoughts that I want to share here. I will not waste words with a lot of scripture references since I want to be brief and I know most people reading are quite familiar with the verses.

As we know, all parties in a contract have obligations. As a believer, I have obligations and God also has obligations He bound himself to when He wrote the contract. I believe; He saves. I confess my sins; He is obligated to forgive and cleanse from unrighteousness. I pray; He answers my prayers.

Regarding things posted on this message board, I am obligated under the contract not to receive an accusation against an elder without 2 or more real eye witnesses. To me, that means people who actually saw the transgression occur. What if the elder is guilty and only one other person saw it or was involved, which is often the case with adultery? Does that change my obligation? I believe it does not. My obligations to pray, love and serve never change. The contract instructs me to judge the ministry by its fruit. In the contract, God guarantees that only a good tree can produce good fruit. If a corrupt tree is allowed to bear good fruit, then God in breach of contract. As we know, the elder has an agreement in his contract to be above reproach and if he is guilty, there are provisions in the contract to deal with it regardless of how the elder might choose to handle the matter. God has provided that the elder will reap what he sows and that his sin will find him out. He also has agreed to prune the rotten branches from the good tree. But here again, unless there are 2 or more witnesses, I have no right or obligation to accuse, judge or speculate as to why the elder might be going through trials and tribulations. The section of the contract entitled Job is very clear on this point. Furthermore, there is no provision in the contract allowing me to spread hearsay. For the record, hearsay is when I tell you what someone else (maybe an eye witness) tells me. God is the only party to the contract with the authority to see to it that his sin finds him out unless there are 2 or more witnesses. Additionally, if there are 2 or more witnesses, the contract outlines the procedure to be followed in dealing with the transgression. Here again, if God allows a cover up, He is in violation of His agreement with me. This contract liberates me to be concerned with God’s calling for me and leave the things to Him that He has agreed to do since I am confident that He will keep His obligations.

Louise Connolly (151.121.50.1)
06-18-2004, 05:13 PM
Dear New Readers to the discussion board:

The post on this thread by JD Skeet on June 8, 2004 at 8:42 pm contains the Doveydenas case. This is the reason The Bible Speaks claimed bankruptcy dissolved their corporation and moved to Baltimore, MD to re-incorporate themselves as Greater Grace World Outreach. Read and get away from GGWO!

Anonymous (24.88.32.43)
07-25-2004, 09:29 PM
clearing the garbage to the bottom.

Anonymous (68.82.183.197)
08-10-2004, 04:08 AM
do something Satan doesn't want you to do tonight....PRAY