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changedagain
08-31-2006, 11:28 PM
I suppose if I had to name just three outlandish statements/teachings that came from the pulpit while in TLWF, they would be the following:
1. The Kingdom of God arrived in December of 1979. This was based on a vision John claimed to have seven years prior. When nothing outwardly appeared to change following the alleged establishment of the Kingdom, the scriptural explanation was that it (KD) would not come by observation. In other words, it was a matter of faith--acceptance of what he said. I know that there's generally a lot of respect for John on these boards--even though there's a consensus that TLWF has lost its way since his death--but does anyone here accept this statement today?
2. John's death brought down Satan. This statement, which came sometime in the mid-80's, brought some sort of solace to TLWF that John's death had not been in vain. I never really bought into it, and I can't remember it being repeated from the pulpit in the 90's.
3. Shiloh is the center of the universe. I really don't want to elaborate much on this one, lest my head spin. I'm having a hard enough time accepting Pluto's banishment from our planetary system. But I suspect this notion (Shiloh as the COU) had to do with a perception that Shiloh played a central role in dictating the events that would unfold in all creation...from Johns' perspective.

Anyway, I'm interested in what you guys think about the above statements. I'm not dreaming, right? I mean, they were taught at one point in TLWF...were they not?

muckmeister
04-23-2007, 04:49 AM
comment on you rpoints:
1. taken out of context....and seems like you want to argue.
2. taken out of context...and seems like you want to argue.
3. takwen out of context and seems very much like a ditto on the first 2 points.

changedagain
04-26-2007, 02:20 AM
Quit being so argumentative, muckmeister! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

(now back to factnet retirement)

(Message edited by changedagain on April 25, 2007)

nony_man
05-03-2007, 02:47 AM
Mr. Muckmeister -

Both Changedagain and myself were present when these statements were made and fully understand the context associated with them. They are indeed quoted correctly above and are not out of context at all. As far as arguing, let's just agree to disagree on this. After all, people will believe what they want to believe. But the statements were made. There is no need for context to see how arrogant they are.