Religions Hypocrisy

[Anonymous (62.254.0.59)]

I never doubted for one moment, or would have believed that any democratically anointed denomination, in a civilized country, the Truth of Christianity could be so badly tainted. Christianity has and will continue to be contaminated. All religions are nothing less than ‘Babylon the Great’ and in accordance with the Bible’s word will be destroyed. But this is where belief; hope, love and truth should all merge for the sake of a new beginning. It is where, for the most part, God’s word falls on stony ground. WHY…? It is because each of those unyielding denominations of ‘Christianity’ refuse to tolerate one another. The effect in all this is supreme heresy, so unorthodox is it from True Christianity it all pales to insignificance. My point is that, weather by
God/Jehovah/YAHWEH or any other name, the name He is known by is not the REAL question, neither is it in question that He is the Creator; that Jesus was His son. It is enough to know He is. In reality we are all sons and daughters of Humanity itself and Fathered by God/Jehovah/YAHWEH. And God, with His Son made or Created the earth for humankind to live forever, in doing so something beyond our understanding came about.

Humankind is so far removed from perfection that it cannot come to terms with itself, yet alone the mind of God. All the fighting in the world about the meaning of life is futile. We are not capable of re-creating for ourselves a new Garden. We are indoctrinated with words such as ‘God is Love’. He must be, otherwise God would be just a sick cosmic joke! Look at the Bible, what do we see…? Hate, violence, decay and subservient attitudes in all directions. All this bought about, not by God, but by the first two humans… pure humans who, for reasons of greed, turned to the evil serpent, Satan. Familiar so far?

But what may not be so familiar to most ‘Christians’ is that God USED the ancestors of these imperfect humans to kill hundreds of thousands, many of them in the MOST hideous ways imaginable. No woman (pregnant or otherwise), man, child OR SUCKLING BABE spared on many occasions. Among the killing crew the likes of: Moses, David, Peter (before his change of heart), Goliath and many, many more. Certainly these are among the stories of the Old Testament. Turning for a moment to The Good Book’s principles for a healthy life, let’s not forget that other blight on humankind…. pornography… have you even read The Song of Solomon…?

Please ask yourselves these critically important questions: Would the one God Almighty Being inspire men to write the kind of things that send children to bed with warped minds; minds that in the heads of some turn out to be history’s most murderous? My second point is this: Bearing these things in mind; that Christianity is about loving your enemy; turning the other cheek, etc. Isn’t it these things that mankind should be arguing for? Surely it must be if only for the sake of decency and the principles therein, if for nothing else? Enough said.

[franklin (franklin)]

Let's discuss the hypocrisy of the other world faiths also. How about the hypocrisy of atheists?

Show me any man, any faith, and I will show you a hypocrit. We're all hypocrits. We all say one thing and do another. Only human being that ever lived, who was not a hypocrit, is Jesus Christ. Expecting man to be perfect, or anywhere near, is insanity. Look at the POSITIVE aspects of Christianity in order for this discussion to be balanced.

[nwmomike (nwmomike)]

Quote: But what may not be so familiar to most ‘Christians’ is that God USED the ancestors of these imperfect humans to kill hundreds of thousands, many of them in the MOST hideous ways imaginable. No woman (pregnant or otherwise), man, child OR SUCKLING BABE spared on many occasions. Among the killing crew the likes of: Moses, David, Peter (before his change of heart), Goliath and many, many more. Certainly these are among the stories of the Old Testament.

Aren’t you assuming that God had no right to or in your mind the god you envision is not just to do something? Aren’t you assuming that you have all the information to make a different judgement?

I would suggest you have to do several things first. Whenever dealing with such issues you have to deal with the justice of God, the mercy of God, and the moral responsibility of man.

Just a short hint for you. Find out what some of these people did that might make God bring down a harsh judgement? How long did God give them to change? Did God give them a way to avoid the judgement?

God always gives a warning, a time of putting up with a problem, and then a time when He must judge. People have to trample all over the way out to get to judgement. Read about how God gave the land of Canaan over 400 years to repent and they refused. How about Jerico? Rahab testified that they knew about the God of Israel and what He was going to do. She was afraid for her life. The others wanted to fight against him.

You wouldn't go into a court, here how someone mudered, raped, and then choped up a whole family and hear the judge say "oh, I'm nice today I'll let you go". YOu would scream that he is unjust. But remember God knows all the details in perfect all-knowing way and so His justice is true.
Quote: Turning for a moment to The Good Book’s principles for a healthy life, let’s not forget that other blight on humankind…. pornography… have you even read The Song of Solomon…?

There is a HUGE difference in describing what the relationship of a man and woman in a marriage is like than the junk that is portrayed in the world to insite violant and deviant sexual behavior. If you read anything other than a beautiful picture of a marriage then you read something into the text that is just foreign to it.

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Please ask yourselves these critically important questions: Would the one God Almighty Being inspire men to write the kind of things that send children to bed with warped minds; minds that in the heads of some turn out to be history’s most murderous?

That is a logical fallacy of the either or, as you’re giving an option that only points to your conclusion. The answer is NO, that God doesn’t do such things. But then you would say that He did. Who is at fault here? God, the men He inspired, His word, or the men that twist what was said? THAT is the critical question. How and why is anyone going to bed with a warped mind? You didn’t explain that one. I have yet heard of any kid being warped by understanding the truth in God’s word.

Quote:My second point is this: Bearing these things in mind; that Christianity is about loving your enemy; turning the other cheek, etc. Isn’t it these things that mankind should be arguing for? Surely it must be if only for the sake of decency and the principles therein, if for nothing else? Enough said.

To love your enemy is to seek the best for them. Doesn’t sometimes that necessitate that we tell them when they do wrong and seek to turn them back? Doesn’t it also mean that it sometimes mean that you step in to protect others? Love is accepting but also confronting. It means putting others needs ahead of yourself in many cases. But it’s not passive, it’s active involvement. Doesn't it mean that you may have to do something you do not like to correct it?

M or Michael

[ohwretchedmanthatiam (ohwretchedmanthatiam)]

If you read the Bible you see the sin of man, turning their back and fellowship and counsel away from GOD/Jesus and munching on a tree of knowledge of good and evil. Interesting to note how GOD told Adam and Eve. i.e are we anything in comparison to GOD other than mere children? LOL

If a culprit came into your house while you were out and told the little children to go ahead and eat the plant in the corner, it won't hurt you, your parents were just kidding. So if this person did it with perfect knowledge of an adult that it was indeed poison and would kill them and they did it so the children would die and cause anguish to you as a parent, how do you act when you arrive on the scene? LOL beguiled is the word in the K.J. and it has that connotation.

Notice how GOD asks Adam a question, he asks Eve a question and when he gets to the serpent he doesn't bother to ask the one who knew and intended to do harm. It's interesting because the GOD/Jesus in the Bible is omnishient, and omnipresent, i.e. alpha and omega. So He is past/present/future and already knows the questions and answers.

We (Adam/Eve)were in a state of sin, turning our counsel and fellowship away from Jesus/GOD and to look to our own ways and seek wisedom that will bring thorns and thistles for the days of all our lives and our childrens lives. Now if it says GOD put Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden for their own sake, i.e. a good reason, what could that reason be? They had turned their fellowship away from a truthful GOD and decilined to be made in his image, to be like Jesus. At least GOD knew his plans preceeded satans foolishness, for satan is very predictable to GOD, nothing past/present/future is not already known by GOD about satan.

My conclusion is at least we did not inheret the ability to live for eternity with our backs turned away from GOD/Jesus and end up like satan. Now, lest they take and eat of the tree of life and live for eternity... for their own sakes they were put out of the garden of eden.

Jesus said He was the way, the truth, the light and besides him there is no other. GOD left a flaming sword at the Eastern gate to the garden of eden to guard it and "keep the way to the tree of life". Beautiful as it is Jesus keeps the way and a sharp two edged sword goes out of his mouth.

Reading the Bible leads one to see we were in need of a savior, i.e. we obviously weren't doing to well on our own, falling away, repenting, trying to get right with GOD again, falling away, repenting, trying to get right with GOD again. Until GOD said "what, is there not a man.." Isaiah 63:5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me. Basically Jesus/GOD came down and rolled up his sleeves and performed the task of our salvation himself. If you are an alpha and omega before the world was, you are entitled to do such a thing. LOL

Where we get lost frequently is by assuming we have some kind of righteousness before an almighty GOD who is incapable of any evil. His glory he will not share nor give to another for that very reason. Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

Jesus already fortold us of the great apostacy and to be like a watchman on the wall until he returns. So we see people who drift out of Jesus/GOD's cousel tend to fall back into the pattern which Israel struggled with before Jesus arrived.

We see the reason the world continues in it's current state is not for accomodating all the corruption, but for the saints, helping people see and learn a way out of all the condemnation of a wicked world.

KJ Mat 5 is a sermon on mount olivet. It is a beautiful consideration when each blessed.. is in relation not to our worldly righteousness, nor mercy, nor heart, nor our being persecuted for our values, but each one is in relation to Jesus/GOD's teaching and demonstration in Jesus for each principle. We are devoid of all these abilities in comparison to Jesus/GOD's ability to deliver us and make a way for us to provide each blessing through accepting his doing with us to meet each task. Therefore it is not our righteousness, mercy, heart, persecution, being reviled we endure, it is Jesus/GOD's principles we have accepted for Him to put them in us and deliver his good will through us that the world hates. We become the peacemakers between GOD/Jesus and man to offer Jesus to take them out of darkness and set the prisoners free. We pray for them and endure all suffering for their sakes pleading with Jesus/GOD. That is "true bread" KJ John 6:32 Christianity being lived, to do his commandments is acceptible in the eyes of the LORD. KJ Luke 11:28

The blessings and repented word searches in the KJ Bible are beautiful. If we can do the blessings and pass them on to the people in this world that is true Chritianity. Then you don't worry about going before Jesus/GOD and having to knock nor expect a "I know you not" for you can go in and out of the pasture Jesus/GOD provide freely.

Becoming a shepherd is a difficult task, not for hire, nor tempted by worldly lusts, but by faith, study, accepting the Lamb and his ways to replace my ways. Put your heart with He who sits between the cheribums on the mercy seat and his teachings, for there will be your treasure also..

Jesus is the role model to become a Son of GOD, there is no other standard. Each day I ask Jesus/GOD what I might do to help him in this world and to help put it before me clearly, to also put before me the biblical principles and scripture clearly, to show me how to and what to pray for. To help me to rightly discern from his Word what is the right thing to judge by and ask for and learn to pass on in each situation.

Life is a lot easier keeping guidance, counsel, reading and practice when Jesus/GOD and his Holy angels help guide in daily activities. I'n not able to do any good on my own, but Jesus has used me to help his causes frequently and the credit goes to him each time.

Jesus/GOD Bless to find one sermon lived is better than a thousand preached... a cowboys creed, LOL God have mercy on my shortcomings which are many, but feel free to use me daily to do your good will.

[overseas (overseas)]

Nwmomike, pls see my last post on LDS/ Mormons topics regarding the Robertson Greek stuf... cause I don't like loose ends and I think we agree in our position. Thanks.